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Date:      Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:26:31 -0500
From:      Lee Crites <lee@critesclan.com>
To:        freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Resourceful BSD/Linux Network Administrator
Message-ID:  <200407020926.31217@cmav>
In-Reply-To: <20040702091205.GB20016@iconoplex.co.uk>
References:  <auto-000070176936@carroll.com> <20040702091205.GB20016@iconoplex.co.uk>

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On Friday July 2 2004 04:12, Paul Robinson wrote:
> Translation: we're going to work you like a dog and not apologise for it or
> even thank you for dealing with the chaotic sh**hole that is our company.
> Also, note the lack of details relating to remuneration. So they're going
> to pay you close to nothing to boot. And it requires you to move to New
> Jersey!
>
> These guys really aren't selling this position, and personally I'm offended
> that they think the people on freebsd-jobs would be anything but
> professional in their approach, and need to be reminded that they shouldn't
> "coast".
>
> Is there a perception out there that we're all looking to sit around
> picking our noses whilst reading slashdot?

I honestly do not believe this is a general opinion of FreeBSD folks.

There is a psychological axiom that goes something like this: People tend to 
blame/accuse others of what they, themselves, are guilty of.

I'm sure all of us have seen this in action on numerous occasions. The person 
who constantly complains about how everyone else is a jerk is actually the 
biggest jerk you know -- that kind of thing. Basically, whenever I see 
someone jump out and start scattering accusations like this particular 
posting did, I don't take it personally, because I see in it a description of 
the poster, not, in this case, the people they are sending it do.

And it appears that you (Paul) picked up on a lot of that, but just didn't 
take it to it's completed conclusion. You picked up on the chaotic work 
environment and such, but didn't pick up on the mindset/personality traits of 
your prospective employer.

They are demanding someone the level of Greg Lehey who can come in and clean 
up their dump, all the while possibly treating him like dirt. I mean, look at 
one of the comments you didn't quote: "there will be no place to hide."

I didn't even bother sending them a reply, even though it's the kind of 
position I'd love to have. (although I would NOT like to live in NJ)

> We're FreeBSD admins. Not MCSEs or Linux admins.

Cute...

Lee



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