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Date:      Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:12:45 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        scottl@samsco.org
Cc:        src-committers@FreeBSD.org, bde@zeta.org.au, jhb@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, mj@feral.com
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/bce if_bcereg.h
Message-ID:  <20060426.101245.90994186.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <444F0923.8050508@samsco.org>
References:  <20060426103623.M1847@epsplex.bde.org> <20060425223519.F65802@ns1.feral.com> <444F0923.8050508@samsco.org>

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            Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> writes:
: Matthew Jacob wrote:
: > 
: >> Supporting sizes >= 4G sounds unreasonable.  How can a single device
: >> need or even address so much space, even on 64-bit arches?  For vm,
: >> virtual memory is sort of a device, but even it is limited to 4G on
: >> 32-bit arches, and PAE on i386 isn't pessimized by using a larger than
: >> necessary vm_size_t.
: > 
: > 
: > I have need to support and help people sell machines that use 32GB of 
: > directly addressable memory. In fact, the EM64T cheat will shortly 
: > become an embarrasment to Intel when people find out that EM64T with PAE 
: > is *not* the same as Opteron (36 vs. 40).
: > 
: > I'm afraid I don't understand the 'unreasonable' argument here. Linux is 
: > eating your lunch today. Do you want it to eat your dessert as well?
: > 
: > -matt
: > 
: 
: bus_size_t is used for things like measuring transfer segment size. 
: There is little chance that Linux, Windows, FreeBSD, or any other OS
: is ever going to try to DMA more than 2^32 bytes of data in a single
: bus transaction.  Maybe you could contrive a silly infiniband device
: to do it.  Anyways, it has no bearing on whether the CPU, memory
: controller, or PCI buses can do 64 bit addressing.

bus_size_t is for differences between two bus_addr_t quantities, since
it specifies the size of resources on a bus.  It is also used for
transfer sizes and the like.  That's why I think it should be a 64-bit
quantity: 64-bit - 64-bit = 64-bit.

Warner



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