From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 13 18:16:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3247AC; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpaasial@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-x22a.google.com (mail-qa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F381A1BB1; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id hu16so918313qab.1 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 11:16:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MB6StIhO4a8Xv1x52eX3kzO0pPGm32iTW+FGClJRwl4=; b=giAUsVi8SQGacZ4pNoZsG4YVzoIZyxfA/kcgNlB1L8vb7YelUaV3pQPcMkuw1//7Ac mDqVDFa0/9A+awcUzkLV5Uk0/oGiJ6A+PG8HbaUSjaraHX5kqvD5rNZb0D8R9MmyY+vj uQHe3/Y8kskocMQ4+CrUO441aM9x25I22sjYZV85ZxqHB7u3i22e7w5YaL4q/Eh+/Zpj WBBa8cdM7kTmBRm75BK3QiiQ8a6wrs+yOeYOlFwRIx3V5DwLFHsJIbJk3pRkOTanhs8C GlyKSQIm4BCqR0rfHQXXFDUZKEaiiEFcyYhj2tJR/x6cM9K8dX5XEtqCQow+UFwfOhpY 3+LA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.134.2 with SMTP id h2mr8365062qct.94.1373739378484; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 11:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.138.78 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 11:16:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FC3C92@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <20130712231637.GS85556@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FC2DBD@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <20130713080732.GV85556@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FC3AA2@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FC3C92@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:16:18 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default From: Kimmo Paasiala To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , "current@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:16:19 -0000 On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Teske, Devin w= rote: > > On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: > > > On Jul 13, 2013, at 1:07 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52:19PM +0000, Teske, Devin wrote: > On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > Hi, > > I have just committed (r253305) a change the make pkg_install not being b= uilt > and installed by default on HEAD. > > If you are still relying on it, be careful and add WITH_PKGTOOLS=3Dyes in= your > src.conf(5) > > [snip] > > I for one am effected and will have to change things. > > If you are referring to bsdconfig's package management, > > [snip] Yes. that's what I'm talking about. [snip] > > > it is not working anyway > HEAD as we do not and will not provides any pkg_install for HEAD via any = of the > usual distribution process: http, ftp, CD. > > > > The FTP mirror of packages is going away? (if you said yes and pointed at= a prior conversation about leading up to this, I would not be surprised --= I'm just questioning it because I don't see the value in pairing-down meth= ods of acquisition) > > If this is the case, what's the surviving acquisition method? A custom TC= P protocol perhaps? > > There may be those that wish to use pkg in the pkg_add manner and downloa= d things and then inspect them manually before adding them. For example, I = often go the freshports.org to find a package that f= ills a need... download it from the official FTP server(s), inspect all of = them, and choose the one that best fits me need (and only then installing f= rom the local file; tossing the rest). If I go through the "pkg" tool, I ha= ve to inspect things *after* they've been installed which is not to my sati= sfaction. > > > [snip > bsdconfig is not installed by > default, > > Wrong, please see... > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D252862 > [snip] > > The first thing that comes to mind in reprogramming bsdconfig's package m= anagement for pkgng... > > We have a *very* large list of FTP mirrors. This will presumably be repla= ced with a list of "pkg" mirrors. > > Do we have such a list that we want to program into the base configuratio= n of bsdconfig? > -- > Devin > Come on, this only concerns 10-CURRENT. Where is it stated that the FTP mirrors for FreeBSD 8/9 packages are going away? -Kimmo