From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 14:37:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF724106566B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6628FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from LENOVOD6B52A6B by ezwind.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 35-md50000130159.msg for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:37:16 -0500 From: "Jay West" To: "'Tony'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01cd1595$17fd2970$47f77c50$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0VisZJg7wKNyx0QmufA6KAaqkW4wABU/pQ Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:37:16 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 71.14.76.230 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD losing market share? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:37:24 -0000 Tony wrote... ------------------- I'm a bit alarmed by the fact that none of the major low-cost Xen VPS-based hosting providers in the modern web development scene (Rackspace, Linode, SliceHost, Webbynode etc.) offer FreeBSD hosting. Sure there are some that offer dedicated servers like M5 Hosting, RootBSD, Pair etc. but those are hard to find and ridiculously expensive. Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen? ------------------- One could also ask why Xen doesn't support FreeBSD ;) I've been a loyal FreeBSD zealot for decades and I still am. However, I have to admit, there are two severe shortcomings - not all entirely freebsd's fault - that keep it out of Xen hosting (and some other high end) environments. The answer is: 1) No true clustered filesystem (GFS for one example). Takes it out of the running completely for those environments. Hast is a wonderful step in the right direction, but really not the answer. 2) Xen - Xen-Tools have not been supported on FreeBSD to this day. Without it, there's little sense in running FreeBSD in a commercial hosting environment under XenServer. No live migration, and half the other nice features aren't available. If Xen-tools was supported in FreeBSD, I'm sure you'd see it popping up as a guest in XenServer hosting providers. J