From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 19 07:10:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DC234225B for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49p91b1PGTz4fWy for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from bell.riseup.net (bell-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49p91L0r3zzFgRp for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 00:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1592550625; bh=seXJgGQIruYmthTSfEjUJc+2UrF+4s1rCiQW4Z8wa3U=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=eAb6Un1PKe54uEfLQ0LN4hWymZcwadrc84XKU60Czh8XZFS6W8hXAGS7VE8pG5GIq JPHYyURW0Oy9yeDqorz60427KPGwnt7yL2jKWcNTbxASBC8eYyGXjTmCgNI8xG/XMz smvK4zEsQpy6WH6YcjNUxSHgK6g+RmGsQxcMAsfU= X-Riseup-User-ID: 029AC130846635996E1C6C930187159457E26C2004A62251EB680A6DFE4EF68A Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bell.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49p91K3Q61zJqy3 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 00:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:10:11 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MUAs we use Message-ID: <20200619091011.15865d7e@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200619085531.30489733@archlinux> References: <20200611141038.0a068ec2@gumby.homeunix.com> <20200611175122.0e09b89e@archlinux> <20200619051347.GG89652@trajan.stk.cx> <20200619085531.30489733@archlinux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49p91b1PGTz4fWy X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=eAb6Un1P; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.22 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.03)[-1.028]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.59)[-0.589]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.003]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:10:27 -0000 PS: Even if you would include X-Mailer and would get additional results such as "Apple Mail", "Claws" ... you need to ensure that all mails are available, that came through the list and only those. You need to provide the information about the uniqueness, how many subscribers use more than just one MUA etc., pp. In the end it would result in an accurate statistic, that anyway would be more or less meaningless.