From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 6 8:46:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D5337B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:46:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f26GkJr35994 ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:46:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id RAA54134 ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:46:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:46:19 +0100 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Brett Glass Cc: "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Message-ID: <20010306174618.N32515@lpt.ens.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Brett Glass , "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010305134937.K80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305114235.046da630@localhost> <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:32:49AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >It won't be for long if copyright owners have their way. > > Or if the likes of Stallman have their way! > > The reason why content distributors are lobbying to limit > or eliminate fair use is that their opponents are going to > the other extreme. That's balls. I won't suggest you don't know what you're talking about, because you obviously do, it's just that you're willing to distort anything to suit your own hate-Richard-Stallman agenda. Richard Stallman woke up to all this in 1984 or so. The trends towards extending copyrights, patents, etc started much earlier -- I think by the middle of the 20th century copyright already lasted 50 years, where it had started off as around 20. Today the upper limit is 95, and that will change before Mickey Mouse is due to come out of copyright again. The practice of companies purchasing copyrights from creators had been in existence for a long time. Patenting of ideas as opposed to inventions, in particular software patents, already existed in the US. I regard all of this as a severe distortion of the original ideas behind copyright/patent/any "intellectual property" protection. Stallman was not the cause of all this, but the consequence, and I wish there were more people sticking their necks out against it. R. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message