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Sun, 20 Oct 2002 02:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF33943E4A for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 02:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fortega2@pacbell.net) Received: from felipebox1 ([64.172.198.194]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H49009J6XYZYJ@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 02:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 02:49:47 -0700 From: Felipe Ortega Subject: IPFW+NATD Problem To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Reply-To: fortega@fortega.com Message-id: <000501c2781e$0999edb0$1e00a8c0@felipebox1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm encountering a problem that I can't seem to solve. The problem I'm having is: After enabling NATD+IFPW some websites are timing out or not coming up at all...for example if I go to www.newegg.com the browser will stay on "waiting for reply" it will eventually time out. When pinging www.newegg.com from the host machine running FreeBSD 4.6 natd+ipfw I get this message: PING www.newegg.com (65.119.30.181): 56 data bytes 36 bytes from 65.114.177.238: Communication prohibited by filter Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 1e8f 0 0000 35 01 ff7f 64.172.198.194 65.119.30.181 This isn't the only site I'm having problems accessing.The percentage of sites that give me this exact problem is around 10% of all web sites I visit.but I have no issues with 90% of websites. One thing I did find in common with all the sites I'm unable to access is they all have the same ping message when pinging them "Communication prohibited by filter". My ipfw list is as follows: 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 65000 allow ip from any to any 65535 deny ip from any to any I know it's not secure at the moment.I'm trying to solve the problem stated above before securing the firewall. Any help will be appreciated fortega@fortega.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 9:42:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C00537B404; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 09:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.latingospel.org (user-0cceh8j.cable.mindspring.com [24.199.69.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7411943E4A; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 09:42:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from exib@swet.com) Received: from QRJATYDI ([80.19.184.26]) by smtp.latingospel.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Sun, 20 Oct 2002 07:24:37 -0500 From: òÕÓØ-ðÒÅÓÓ@ru.FreeBSD.ORG To: 43o4f@mail.ru Subject: ÷ÙÓÔÁ×ËÁ "ðÒÅÓÓÁ-2003" /íÏÓË×Á, ÷÷ã/ X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Outlook Express Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 11:55:8 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2002 12:24:37.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[A81C7E20:01C27833] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ðòéçìáóéôåìøîùê âéìåô 24-28 ÏËÔÑÂÒÑ 2002 Ç. 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(095) 956-1872. îÁÐÉÓÁÔØ ÎÁÍ ÐÉÓØÍÏ (Á ÔÁËÖÅ ÏÔËÁÚÁÔØÓÑ ÏÔ ÐÏ×ÔÏÒÎÙÈ ÒÁÓÓÙÌÏË) ÍÏÖÎÏ ÚÄÅÓØ: http://www.osios.org/pcgi/f_post.cgi?firm=256 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 16:11:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C1237B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (fastmail.fm [209.61.183.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBC743E65 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leegold@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C2E6D9A9 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:11:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (server2.internal [10.202.2.133]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0CD6DA99 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:11:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07927DFA9 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:11:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id B33EFDFA8; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:11:15 -0500 (CDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.6; T1.001; A1.48; B2.12; Q2.03) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:11:15 UT From: "leegold" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Epoch: 1035155476 X-Sasl-enc: q4Fj99H1OC6ie17unQdRCQ Subject: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021020231115.B33EFDFA8@server2.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not to interested WHY I can't find XF86Setup in the install anymore. Why a good stable, clear and understabdable GUI was yanked I will not understand. Just tell me how to get it for X setup and config in 4.7. I also want xvidtune. How??? Thanks -- http://fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 16:44: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A793F37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (fastmail.fm [209.61.183.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18DE43E65 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leegold@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987A76DB61 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (server2.internal [10.202.2.133]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923C96DB5A for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0182E2AD for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:43:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id 98957E2AB; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:43:54 -0500 (CDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.6; T1.001; A1.48; B2.12; Q2.03) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:43:54 UT From: "leegold" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG X-Epoch: 1035157434 X-Sasl-enc: bcA3BseP5Ch0y8/5eHU4bw Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work Message-Id: <20021020234354.98957E2AB@server2.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Hey, I also had the same problem. The AWE 64 just doesn't even make noise!. >While its true that the manual has an example on set it up, it just >didn't work. I tried recompiling the kernel many times, even a couple of >"make world", both with FreeBSD 4.5 and 4.6.2 release. > >I gave up as I don't really need the sound to enjoy the system, but I >think that there is probably an issue with the AWE64 and FreeBSD. > >By the way, the card is on a ISA slot and works fine when running win2k. > Same experience, my AWE64 worked fine in WIN2k and Mandrake Linux. But I spent a solid week trying in FreeBsd - I tried everything - no sound. There's a commercial driver: http://www.opensound.com/ I'm thinking of spending the money - there's free phone support too. Really shook me up that FBsd can't PnP my sound less support it. Of course we may be doing something wrong, some detail we are over looking, but I recompiled my kernel 20 times and searched the web for help like a maniac, so it makes sense at this point to buy the drivers. Very frustrating. >Rafael -- http://fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 18:57:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F176437B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [66.210.104.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0D143E6E for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from bsdprophet.org (2d30ffc1ee241b6ab4b50c9e48679bcd@[66.210.107.84]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g9L23O9s069033; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:03:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3DB35F38.10806@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:58:16 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? References: <20021020231115.B33EFDFA8@server2.fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It is in the basic install, (A long as you picked X-User)! leegold wrote: > I'm not to interested WHY I can't find XF86Setup in the install anymore. > Why a good stable, clear and understabdable GUI was yanked I will not > understand. > > Just tell me how to get it for X setup and config in 4.7. > I also want xvidtune. How??? > > Thanks > > > -- > http://fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email > again > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 18:59:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5525837B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [66.210.104.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1BC43E4A for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from bsdprophet.org (9ab3d8ee6fb831ec347c23d820e39c47@[66.210.107.84]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g9L25i9s069230; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:05:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3DB35FC4.3020107@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:00:36 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work References: <20021020234354.98957E2AB@server2.fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You guys must be smoking crack. my AWE64 works GREAT! leegold wrote: >>Hey, I also had the same problem. The AWE 64 just doesn't even make noise!. >>While its true that the manual has an example on set it up, it just >>didn't work. I tried recompiling the kernel many times, even a couple of >>"make world", both with FreeBSD 4.5 and 4.6.2 release. >> >>I gave up as I don't really need the sound to enjoy the system, but I >>think that there is probably an issue with the AWE64 and FreeBSD. >> >>By the way, the card is on a ISA slot and works fine when running win2k. >> > > > Same experience, my AWE64 worked fine in WIN2k and Mandrake Linux. > But I spent a solid week trying in FreeBsd - I tried everything - no > sound. > There's a commercial driver: http://www.opensound.com/ > I'm thinking of spending the money - there's free phone support too. > Really shook me up that FBsd can't PnP my sound less support it. > Of course we may be doing something wrong, some detail we are over > looking, > but I recompiled my kernel 20 times and searched the web for help like a > maniac, so > it makes sense at this point to buy the drivers. Very frustrating. > > > > >>Rafael > > -- > http://fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an > unladen european swallow > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 19:17:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263F437B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (fastmail.fm [209.61.183.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97EF43E3B for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leegold@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9314D6D9D1; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:16:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (server2.internal [10.202.2.133]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F216D9B0; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:16:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15C19E1F; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:16:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id 47C08E817; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:16:55 -0500 (CDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.6; T1.001; A1.48; B2.12; Q2.03) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:16:55 UT From: "leegold" To: "Scott Corey" X-Epoch: 1035166616 X-Sasl-enc: 8hP9Cp6FpCpc7U7DdYdWdw Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021021021655.47C08E817@server2.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott, Here's a quote from X's home page: "The XF86Setup utility is currently not usable, but work is continuing in this area." I'm not making this up, here's the link - do a search on the web pg. for XF86Setup and you'll find the quote. http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/RELNOTES4.html#12 Have you tried the 4.7 install? I got an unofficial 4-cd bundle from a reputable vendor- XF86Setup is not there. Try a 4.7 install. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Lee On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:58:16 -0500, "Scott Corey" said: > It is in the basic install, (A long as you picked X-User)! > leegold wrote: > > I'm not to interested WHY I can't find XF86Setup in the install anymore. > > Why a good stable, clear and understabdable GUI was yanked I will not > > understand. > > > > Just tell me how to get it for X setup and config in 4.7. > > I also want xvidtune. How??? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -- > > http://fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email > > again > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > -- http://fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 19:28:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA9737B404 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (fastmail.fm [209.61.183.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA4E43E88 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leegold@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958596DAE0; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:28:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (server2.internal [10.202.2.133]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752276DA7A; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:28:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768F8EC88; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:28:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4E4C0EC87; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:28:23 -0500 (CDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.6; T1.001; A1.48; B2.12; Q2.03) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:28:23 UT From: "leegold" To: "Scott Corey" X-Epoch: 1035167303 X-Sasl-enc: 6S2N5H8WTIW73zRffxBmAA Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work Message-Id: <20021021022823.4E4C0EC87@server2.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:00:36 -0500, "Scott Corey" said: > You guys must be smoking crack. my AWE64 works GREAT! I don't know why the dang thing's busted. I'm buying the shrink-wrap driver. I think there are a couple of AWE64 variations maybe we got a limited run w/a wierd chip version. If not,I wish I knew what the heck I've been doing wrong. > leegold wrote: > >>Hey, I also had the same problem. The AWE 64 just doesn't even make noise!. > >>While its true that the manual has an example on set it up, it just > >>didn't work. I tried recompiling the kernel many times, even a couple of > >>"make world", both with FreeBSD 4.5 and 4.6.2 release. > >> > >>I gave up as I don't really need the sound to enjoy the system, but I > >>think that there is probably an issue with the AWE64 and FreeBSD. > >> > >>By the way, the card is on a ISA slot and works fine when running win2k. > >> > > > > > > Same experience, my AWE64 worked fine in WIN2k and Mandrake Linux. > > But I spent a solid week trying in FreeBsd - I tried everything - no > > sound. > > There's a commercial driver: http://www.opensound.com/ > > I'm thinking of spending the money - there's free phone support too. > > Really shook me up that FBsd can't PnP my sound less support it. > > Of course we may be doing something wrong, some detail we are over > > looking, > > but I recompiled my kernel 20 times and searched the web for help like a > > maniac, so > > it makes sense at this point to buy the drivers. Very frustrating. > > > > > > > > > >>Rafael > > > > -- > > http://fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an > > unladen european swallow > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > -- http://fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 20: 3:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E3237B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C985343E4A for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:03:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@heorot.1nova.com) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B479C18FA; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F8218F8; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:06:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Hamell To: leegold Cc: Scott Corey , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work In-Reply-To: <20021021022823.4E4C0EC87@server2.fastmail.fm> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have any of you guys searched the mailing lists archives for AWE 64? You'll need to manually force the card to IRQ 10 in the Kernal. The AWE (despite what Creative may say,) is not a true PNP sound card. Rick > > You guys must be smoking crack. my AWE64 works GREAT! > > I don't know why the dang thing's busted. > I'm buying the shrink-wrap driver. > > I think there are a couple of AWE64 variations maybe we got a > limited run w/a wierd chip version. If not,I wish I knew what > the heck I've been doing wrong. > > > > leegold wrote: > > >>Hey, I also had the same problem. The AWE 64 just doesn't even make noise!. > > >>While its true that the manual has an example on set it up, it just > > >>didn't work. I tried recompiling the kernel many times, even a couple of > > >>"make world", both with FreeBSD 4.5 and 4.6.2 release. > > >> > > >>I gave up as I don't really need the sound to enjoy the system, but I > > >>think that there is probably an issue with the AWE64 and FreeBSD. > > >> > > >>By the way, the card is on a ISA slot and works fine when running win2k. > > >> > > > > > > > > > Same experience, my AWE64 worked fine in WIN2k and Mandrake Linux. > > > But I spent a solid week trying in FreeBsd - I tried everything - no > > > sound. > > > There's a commercial driver: http://www.opensound.com/ > > > I'm thinking of spending the money - there's free phone support too. > > > Really shook me up that FBsd can't PnP my sound less support it. > > > Of course we may be doing something wrong, some detail we are over > > > looking, > > > but I recompiled my kernel 20 times and searched the web for help like a > > > maniac, so > > > it makes sense at this point to buy the drivers. Very frustrating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Rafael > > > > > > -- > > > http://fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an > > > unladen european swallow > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > http://fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Oct 20 23: 5:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAE437B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (fastmail.fm [209.61.183.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B74343E75 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leegold@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEE76DB1F for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:05:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (server2.internal [10.202.2.133]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2446DBED for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:05:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA3AB6D9 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:05:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id B2441E27A; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:05:43 -0500 (CDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.6; T1.001; A1.48; B2.12; Q2.03) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 06:05:43 UT From: "leegold" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG X-Epoch: 1035180344 X-Sasl-enc: ttXCTsma3MD/Lopn7cIOJQ Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021021060543.B2441E27A@server2.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I definitely confirmed it. No XF86Setup in X 4.2.0. In my opinion, this is a gigantic blunder. And it hurts the average user the most. The most time saving config tool is gone! XF86Setup has saved people LOTS of time. I'm just amazed at this whole thing. -- http://fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 21 4:39: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068C737B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [66.210.104.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B7843E6A for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:39:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from bsdprophet.org (6d05abd865fcc1bd4155e649f40f4762@[66.210.107.61]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g9LBiu9s007688; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 06:44:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3DB3E788.1020105@bsdprophet.org> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 06:39:52 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leegold , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? References: <20021021021655.47C08E817@server2.fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is not a FreeBSD issue! leegold wrote: > Scott, > Here's a quote from X's home page: > > "The XF86Setup utility is currently not usable, but work is > continuing in this area." > > I'm not making this up, here's the link - do a search on the web pg. for > XF86Setup > and you'll find the quote. > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/RELNOTES4.html#12 > > Have you tried the 4.7 install? I got an unofficial 4-cd bundle from > a reputable vendor- XF86Setup is not there. Try a 4.7 install. I could > be wrong but I don't think so. > > Lee > > > > > > > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:58:16 -0500, "Scott Corey" > said: > >>It is in the basic install, (A long as you picked X-User)! >>leegold wrote: >> >>>I'm not to interested WHY I can't find XF86Setup in the install anymore. >>>Why a good stable, clear and understabdable GUI was yanked I will not >>>understand. >>> >>>Just tell me how to get it for X setup and config in 4.7. >>>I also want xvidtune. How??? >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>> >>>-- >>>http://fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email >>>again >>> >>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> >> > > -- > http://fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 21 4:42:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C542437B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [66.210.104.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA2543E4A for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:42:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from bsdprophet.org (dacbd789ff7a8bd69a038abd85e92afc@[66.210.107.61]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g9LBmw9s007927; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 06:48:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3DB3E87A.2070901@bsdprophet.org> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 06:43:54 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: leegold Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? References: <20021021060543.B2441E27A@server2.fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org leegold wrote: > I definitely confirmed it. No XF86Setup in X 4.2.0. > In my opinion, this is a gigantic blunder. And it hurts the > average user the most. The most time saving config tool is gone! > XF86Setup has saved people LOTS of time. > > I'm just amazed at this whole thing. > > > > "xf86cfg" automagically and easy and personally I would use the "Handbook" for issues with FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 21 10:44:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC8937B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C3D443E42 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:44:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yeti_1983@yahoo.de) Received: from pd9e34fe0.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO yahoo.de) (yeti?1983@217.227.79.224 with plain) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2002 17:44:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3DB43C68.54CF5B5@yahoo.de> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:42:00 +0200 From: Tim Heimbrock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Hamell Cc: leegold , Scott Corey , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rick Hamell wrote: > Have any of you guys searched the mailing lists archives for AWE 64? > You'll need to manually force the card to IRQ 10 in the Kernal. The AWE > (despite what Creative may say,) is not a true PNP sound card. Mine seems to use IRQ 5: Patchy% dmesg | grep sbc sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 [...] > > > >> The AWE 64 just doesn't even make noise!. [...] Is the card recorgnized by the kernel? Do you have any kind of error-message? Tim -- Sorry for the yahoo-advertisment __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! 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(208.57.187.207) by 4u.ab4net.net with SMTP; 21 Oct 2002 17:50:55 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rx7@mail.eclipsegraphics.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00a001c27606$d63a6df0$0200000a@UNCLEFU> References: <00a001c27606$d63a6df0$0200000a@UNCLEFU> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:54:32 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Chris Subject: RE: newbie help, bad kernel? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This worked great however I did find out the CD drive is dead and what probably happened is it died during the install. But the below link made a great boot disk utility and now I am swapping out the cd drive and starting over. Thanks! >Available at: >http://support.micronpc.com/apps/disclaimer.asp?FilePAth=/Support/Bootdi >sks/98BOT10A.exe&Include= > >Just download this on a windows box; run it, put a disk in, it'll create >it. Then boot the bsd box from the disk. It may come up with a menu, >just press shift+f5 to go straight to the DOS prompt. Then do this > > A:\> fdisk /mbr -- Buy RX-7 Gear! http://www.eclipsegraphics.com/seventhsign.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 21 14:48:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B2B37B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (fastmail.fm [209.61.183.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF20343E6E for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:48:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leegold@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273BC6DA25; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:48:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (server2.internal [10.202.2.133]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF516DA0C; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:48:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74741ED84; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:48:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8DE45EC17; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:48:34 -0500 (CDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.6; T1.001; A1.48; B2.12; Q2.03) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:48:34 UT From: "leegold" To: "mike shupp" X-Epoch: 1035236915 X-Sasl-enc: bUYm+RBF9y361nfqI9k/uA Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021021214834.8DE45EC17@server2.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:24:34 -0700, "mike shupp" said: > Your complaint should be addressed to the XFree86 people, not to > FreeBSD. Quoting from their site (www.xfree86.org): > " The next step is to configure the X server. That is covered in detail > in an as-yet unwritten document :-(. In the meantime, there are three ways > to create a basic X server configuration file for XFree86 4.2.1. One is to > run the xf86config utility. Another is to run the xf86cfg utility. The third > option is to use the new -configure X server option: > XFree86 -configure" > > XF86Setup doesn't exist for X11 version 4.2 in other words. I tried the "-configure X" option as described in the handbook. Ok. Then the handbook says go into the config file itself and edit it. Ok, I did just that and was confronted code not mentioned in the handbook, as a matter of fact the handbook only gives a vague incomplete outline on how to edit the config file. Don't beleive me? It's a blunder for XFree but it's a problem for FreeBsd users. I'm wrong? Then were's a page in the handbook that I can copy in for my card and my config? There is none? Were's a page in the handbook that ACTUALLY reflects what the x config file looks like and what changes should be made - fact: there is none. Where's XF86Setup? It's gone. I've got to stop whining and move on to another disto and leave you guys alone - I'm sorry. ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "leegold" > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 06:05:43 UT > > I definitely confirmed it. No XF86Setup in X 4.2.0. > In my opinion, this is a gigantic blunder. And it hurts the > average user the most. The most time saving config tool is gone! > XF86Setup has saved people LOTS of time. > > I'm just amazed at this whole thing. > > > > > -- > http://fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > -- http://fastmail.fm - mmm... fastmail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 21 16:55:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB2A37B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACCC43E3B for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from user206.net235.fl.sprint-hsd.net ([64.45.227.206] helo=k6-2.weeble.com) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 183mO2-00048d-00; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:55:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:57:03 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: "leegold" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021021195703.7efd77b2.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org leegold wrote: > I definitely confirmed it. No XF86Setup in X 4.2.0. > In my opinion, this is a gigantic blunder. And it hurts the > average user the most. The most time saving config tool is gone! > XF86Setup has saved people LOTS of time. > > I'm just amazed at this whole thing. > Have you tried using the xf86config tool as described in the Handbook Installation section (2.9.11 Configure X Server)? It will generally produce a useable XF86Config file that can be used without modification. The XF86Setup was easy to use, but apparently the XFree86 project has decided to discontinue its use so we have to use the tools provided. This isn't unique to FreeBSD and any OS employing recent versions of XFree86 will be the same. Hope this helps a bit. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 21 20:30:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2FD37B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.adam.com.au (lightning.adam.com.au [203.2.124.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F7E243E3B for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lloy0076@adam.com.au) Received: (qmail 42965 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2002 03:30:45 -0000 Received: from 202-6-129-187.ip.adam.com.au (HELO linux.david.net.au) (202.6.129.187) by eden.adam.com.au with SMTP; 22 Oct 2002 03:30:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:16:13 +0930 From: David Lloyd To: Randy Pratt Cc: leegold@fastmail.fm, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021022131613.44ba9478.lloy0076@adam.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20021021195703.7efd77b2.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> References: <20021021195703.7efd77b2.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oh, > The XF86Setup was easy to use, but apparently the XFree86 project has > decided to discontinue its use so we have to use the tools provided. > This isn't unique to FreeBSD and any OS employing recent versions of > XFree86 will be the same. And if you do happen to get the code then you might consider working out how to contribute it back to the FreeBSD Documentation Project so someone else doesn't have to suffer the same ills... DSL [I would but I'm busy otherwise; I'm busy writing job applications and outlines of talks to my local linux users group] -- The Linux C Programming Lists: * http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/linuxcprogramming/ The Linux C++ Programming Lists: * http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/tuxcpprogramming/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 2:33:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05ECB37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 02:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.thundernet.cz (mail.thundernet.cz [62.77.87.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 487FF43E6A for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 02:33:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: (qmail 5171 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2002 09:33:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freepuppy.bellavista.cz) (62.168.44.50) by mail.thundernet.cz with SMTP; 22 Oct 2002 09:33:35 -0000 Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E93EE2FDAB2; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:33:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:33:01 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-ID: <20021022093301.GD1196@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: leegold , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021021214834.8DE45EC17@server2.fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021021214834.8DE45EC17@server2.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # leegold@fastmail.fm / 2002-10-21 21:48:34 +0000: > I tried the "-configure X" option as described in the handbook. > Ok. Then the handbook says go into the config file itself and edit it. > Ok, I did just that and was confronted code not mentioned in the > handbook, as a matter of fact the handbook only gives a vague > incomplete outline on how to edit the config file. Don't beleive me? > > It's a blunder for XFree but it's a problem for FreeBsd users. I'm > wrong? Then were's a page in the handbook that I can copy in for my > card and my config? There is none? Were's a page in the handbook that > ACTUALLY reflects what the x config file looks like and what changes > should be made - fact: there is none. Where's XF86Setup? It's gone. What is/was XF86Setup? That point'n'click thing with "tabs" I remember using once during an install of SuSE 6.4 three years ago? I know I was grateful for that tool because I was so scared of X I couldn't imagine configuring it any other way. Then again, that was in XFree86-3 days, and X config was a bit more involved (modelines and all that jazz). I can assure you that running xf86config is actually really easy: all you need to know is your VGA card vendor/model, and if your monitor doesn't speak DDC (plain English: can't tell the VGA card its capabilities), its frequency ranges, too. Those can be found in the monitor's manual, but you can just guess reasonable values if you don't have it. > I've got to stop whining and move on to another disto and > leave you guys alone - I'm sorry. One of those commercial Linux distros might have printed documentation more extensive than the FreeBSD handbook. But nowadays SuSE costs almost as much as OEM Windows XP, so why bother at all? -- If you cc me or take the list(s) out completely I'll most likely ignore your message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 2:55:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B364C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 02:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (fastmail.fm [209.61.183.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E85E43E4A for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 02:55:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leegold@fastmail.fm) Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14CC6DB78; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:55:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (server2.internal [10.202.2.133]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id D428C6DABE; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:55:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from server2.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E31C22F; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:55:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: by server2.fastmail.fm (Postfix, from userid 99) id B6486E956; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:55:45 -0500 (CDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.6; T1.001; A1.48; B2.12; Q2.03) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:55:45 UT From: "leegold" To: "Randy Pratt" X-Epoch: 1035280546 X-Sasl-enc: 7At7V6W4mPbzPXc32lB6Wg Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021022095545.B6486E956@server2.fastmail.fm> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ...snip... > > XF86Setup has saved people LOTS of time. > > > > ..... > > > > Have you tried using the xf86config tool as described in the Handbook > Installation section (2.9.11 Configure X Server)? It will generally > produce a useable XF86Config file that can be used without modification. > > The XF86Setup was easy to use, but apparently the XFree86 project has > decided to discontinue its use so we have to use the tools provided. I did # XFree86 -configure # XFree86 -xf86config XF86Config.new and I do get a crosshatched pattern w/x in the middle. but going in to the config. file to fine tune I see code not described in the handbook and not self documented in the file itself. I therefore don't know what the heck I'm doing in there and i'm not going to change a thing until I do. I don't know where to inspect my monitor's horiz and vert. sync and refresh - make sure it's in the safe range. Or just assume it's ok (though not optimized) and install KDE and forget about it. I mean either I hack the file w/detailed docs and info on what each line does or trust it. I'll trust it. Unfortunately I don't have the EASY to use fine-grained adjustment that XF86Setup and xvidtune GUI's affored me. If my monitor becomes silicon ball lighting I'll report back immediately. ..... -- http://fastmail.fm - More web-sonets than web-mail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 6:41:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8677437B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180AF43E42 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chip@wiegand.org) Received: from chip.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A5793E40009A; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:41:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:41:09 -0700 From: Chip Wiegand To: "leegold" Cc: rpratt1950@earthlink.net, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021022064109.346a5666.chip@wiegand.org> In-Reply-To: <20021022095545.B6486E956@server2.fastmail.fm> References: <20021022095545.B6486E956@server2.fastmail.fm> Organization: Alternative Operating Systems X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org leegold wrote this stuff on Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:55:45 UT: > ...snip... > > The XF86Setup was easy to use, but apparently the XFree86 project > > has decided to discontinue its use so we have to use the tools > > provided. > > I did > # XFree86 -configure > # XFree86 -xf86config XF86Config.new > and I do get a crosshatched pattern w/x in the middle. > but going in to the config. file to fine tune I see > code not described in the handbook and not self documented > in the file itself. I therefore don't know what the heck I'm > doing in there and i'm not going to change a thing until I do. > > I don't know where to inspect my monitor's horiz and vert. > sync and refresh - make sure it's in the safe range. That information is in the manual for your monitor. If you don't have the manual for your monnitor, check the web, or just use one of the generic defaults, I've had to do that more than a few times, I've used the setting for 'non-interlaced monitor that can do 1024x768' with good luck. And set the color depth to 16bit or 24bit, just takes a little experimenting sometimes, with older monitors. Regards, -- Chip > Or just assume it's ok (though not optimized) and install KDE > and forget about it. I mean either I hack the file w/detailed > docs and info on what each line does or trust it. I'll trust it. > Unfortunately I don't have the EASY to use fine-grained adjustment > that XF86Setup and xvidtune GUI's affored me. > > If my monitor becomes silicon ball lighting I'll report back > immediately. > > ..... > -- > http://fastmail.fm - More web-sonets than web-mail > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 6:58:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9087C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5A543E4A for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:58:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from user206.net235.fl.sprint-hsd.net ([64.45.227.206] helo=k6-2.weeble.com) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 183zY7-0000ZK-00; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:58:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:00:25 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: "leegold" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-Id: <20021022100025.401caafa.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <20021022095545.B6486E956@server2.fastmail.fm> References: <20021022095545.B6486E956@server2.fastmail.fm> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:55:45 UT "leegold" wrote: > ...snip... > > > XF86Setup has saved people LOTS of time. > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > Have you tried using the xf86config tool as described in the Handbook > > Installation section (2.9.11 Configure X Server)? It will generally > > produce a useable XF86Config file that can be used without modification. > > > > The XF86Setup was easy to use, but apparently the XFree86 project has > > decided to discontinue its use so we have to use the tools provided. > > I did > # XFree86 -configure > # XFree86 -xf86config XF86Config.new This is the method described in the Handbook section 5.4.1. Using the method in section 2.9.1, all I have had to do is: # xf86config and it enters the text-based setup tool where I answered a series of questions. At the conclusion, it will write the configuration file to /etc/X11/XF86Config. This xf86config tool is also available thru the Sysinstall post-install configuration options. > and I do get a crosshatched pattern w/x in the middle. > but going in to the config. file to fine tune I see > code not described in the handbook and not self documented > in the file itself. I therefore don't know what the heck I'm > doing in there and i'm not going to change a thing until I do. > > I don't know where to inspect my monitor's horiz and vert. > sync and refresh - make sure it's in the safe range. They're located in the configuration file, usually in /etc/X11/XF86Config. > Or just assume it's ok (though not optimized) and install KDE > and forget about it. I mean either I hack the file w/detailed > docs and info on what each line does or trust it. I'll trust it. > Unfortunately I don't have the EASY to use fine-grained adjustment > that XF86Setup and xvidtune GUI's affored me. This is starting to stray from the list charter for freebsd-newbies. If you still have problems or specific questions, it would be better to post to freebsd-questions. Of course, you will need to include sufficient information for someone to help (XF86Config file, video card, monitor specifications). Good Luck, Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 7: 0:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99BF37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.thundernet.cz (mail.thundernet.cz [62.77.87.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7B7C43E65 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:59:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: (qmail 8260 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2002 13:59:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freepuppy.bellavista.cz) (62.168.44.50) by mail.thundernet.cz with SMTP; 22 Oct 2002 13:59:19 -0000 Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1DEF92FDAB2; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:59:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:59:15 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? Message-ID: <20021022135915.GB5864@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: leegold , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021022095545.B6486E956@server2.fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021022095545.B6486E956@server2.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # leegold@fastmail.fm / 2002-10-22 09:55:45 +0000: > I don't know where to inspect my monitor's horiz and vert. > sync and refresh - make sure it's in the safe range. 1) the manual that came with your monitor 2) http://www.monitorworld.com/ -- If you cc me or take the list(s) out completely I'll most likely ignore your message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 9:28:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EB437B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts6.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9FB43E6E for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@lespetitsplaisirs.com) Received: from pippo.lespetitsplaisirs.com ([65.94.97.110]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021022162848.GCSN24390.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@pippo.lespetitsplaisirs.com> for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:28:48 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021022122747.00a9c238@mail.host45.com> X-Sender: gustav@mail.host45.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:28:46 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: info@lespetitsplaisirs.com Subject: upgrade to 4.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to upgrade FreeBSD from 4.62 to 4.7 so I can use openoffice. I find the instructions in the handbook incomplete: 21.4 Using make world In trying to use mergemaster, I find it incomprehensible as to what the program actually does and what I am supposed to direct it to do. It is not clear as to what is done with the master.passwd and group files and where they are installed or how they are modified. I tried to be ultra conservative and backed up the /etc/group and /etc/master.passwd files to *.old and then ran mergemaster. It was thereafter not clear who(what process or program) would use the new file (which, where) or how the files would be merged. I chose the 'm' option to merge the files, assuming that the existing passwords, users and groups would be merged into the new file. Then to verify, I entered the 'v' option; but this produced nothing. Thinking that the backups would be insurance, I then opted for 'i'. On exiting mergemaster, I chose to leave the temp files. I did not run the pwd_mkdb -p as suggested until after verifying the /etc directory and the /var/tmp/temproot/etc directories: SURPRISE the /etc/group, /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd files are empty. And there is nothintg in the /var/tmp/temproot/etc directory What in the world is going on here? I have not closed down or rebooted as I am afraid that the whole installation will be shot to hell. What do I do? Will restoring the saved group and master.passwd files do anything? Then there is the empty passwd file. I suppose that running vipw and adduser might fix things... Also, there was no /etc/make.conf file. The installation has been pretty much "by the book" using portupgrade" ... Everything works just fine - Xfree86-4.2; cups, kde3; I just want to upgrade to 4.7 for openoffice. Please help PJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 9:29:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A209537B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7087343E75 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:29:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pippo@bellnet.ca) Received: from pippo.bellnet.ca ([65.94.97.110]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021022162945.GDJW2670.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@pippo.bellnet.ca> for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:29:45 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021022122918.00a901b0@mail.host45.com> X-Sender: lesp3999@pop51.bellnet.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:29:43 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: pippo@bellnet.ca Subject: upgrade to 4.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to upgrade FreeBSD from 4.62 to 4.7 so I can use openoffice. I find the instructions in the handbook incomplete: 21.4 Using make world In trying to use mergemaster, I find it incomprehensible as to what the program actually does and what I am supposed to direct it to do. It is not clear as to what is done with the master.passwd and group files and where they are installed or how they are modified. I tried to be ultra conservative and backed up the /etc/group and /etc/master.passwd files to *.old and then ran mergemaster. It was thereafter not clear who(what process or program) would use the new file (which, where) or how the files would be merged. I chose the 'm' option to merge the files, assuming that the existing passwords, users and groups would be merged into the new file. Then to verify, I entered the 'v' option; but this produced nothing. Thinking that the backups would be insurance, I then opted for 'i'. On exiting mergemaster, I chose to leave the temp files. I did not run the pwd_mkdb -p as suggested until after verifying the /etc directory and the /var/tmp/temproot/etc directories: SURPRISE the /etc/group, /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd files are empty. And there is nothintg in the /var/tmp/temproot/etc directory What in the world is going on here? I have not closed down or rebooted as I am afraid that the whole installation will be shot to hell. What do I do? Will restoring the saved group and master.passwd files do anything? Then there is the empty passwd file. I suppose that running vipw and adduser might fix things... Also, there was no /etc/make.conf file. The installation has been pretty much "by the book" using portupgrade" ... Everything works just fine - Xfree86-4.2; cups, kde3; I just want to upgrade to 4.7 for openoffice. Please help PJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 13:13:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4145E37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from servint.elbolson.com (mail.elbolson.com [200.41.245.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C620443E3B for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from claudia@elbolson.com) Received: by mail.elbolson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:21:20 -0300 Message-ID: <8154C426EAB1D511B9960050DAB6D4322DBDEE@mail.elbolson.com> From: Claudia Burman To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: routing and security Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:21:11 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I want to set up a box just to act as a firewall and router, for dial-in users and for a LAN. I have already done it but I'm very worried about security. Question is, does the computer acting just a an IP forwarder need to have any open ports? Thanks Claudia Burman Argentina To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 22 22:10:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B5F37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.spiralrecords.com (h-64-105-153-10.DNVTCO56.covad.net [64.105.153.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F9E43E6A for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@untoldfaith.com) Received: from localhost ([]) by mail.spiralrecords.com (Merak 5.1.5) with SMTP id JFC37105 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:10:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:10:12 -0600 From: Troy X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: Troy X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11216761401.20021022231012@untoldfaith.com> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: disconnect and reconnect how to keep jobs running MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, A quick question. How do I disconnect from say a ssh session and leave jobs running, then get to my house (where the machine is located) then reconnect to the session and the running jobs? Is this possible? Thanks, Troy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 23 3:43:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0236137B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 03:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B5E43E7B for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 03:43:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (a88097603fd1e90961666ea3da602ecf@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9NAYbUn054488; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 03:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 03:34:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: pippo@bellnet.ca Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrade to 4.7 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021022122918.00a901b0@mail.host45.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 pippo@bellnet.ca wrote: > I want to upgrade FreeBSD from 4.62 to 4.7 so I can use openoffice. > I find the instructions in the handbook incomplete: > 21.4 Using make world It's puzzling to figure out what went wrong here--did you get sources with cvsup? If so, do the various directories in /usr/src have populated subdirectories? Mergemaster is the last step, after you're run make buildworld, built and loaded a new kernel, run installworld. Portupgrade has to do with third-party software, not the base system, and so it isn't really relevant to this process. There are some indications you have actually upgraded to 5.0, and not 4.7--that did you use for a tag in your supfile? Mergemaster uses sdiff (so man sdiff if you're going to use it). It seems you chose the empty side of the comparisons on the merge. Looking at the /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh may tell you what you're got sources for...look at some dates on your files. If your "*.old" files look good to you you might restore them. It seems you might have merged something empty (whatever is in /usr/src/etc?) I guess in the end I'd be inclined to restore the *.old files (that is, move them to their working names), and then try to figure out what went wrong. > > In trying to use mergemaster, I find it incomprehensible as to what the > program actually does and what I am supposed to direct it to do. > It is not clear as to what is done with the master.passwd and group files > and where they are installed or how they are modified. > I tried to be ultra conservative and backed up the /etc/group and > /etc/master.passwd files to *.old and then ran mergemaster. > It was thereafter not clear who(what process or program) would use the new > file (which, where) or how the files would be merged. I chose the 'm' > option to merge the files, assuming that the existing passwords, users and > groups would be merged into the new file. Then to verify, I entered the 'v' > option; but this produced nothing. > Thinking that the backups would be insurance, I then opted for 'i'. > On exiting mergemaster, I chose to leave the temp files. > I did not run the pwd_mkdb -p as suggested until after verifying the /etc > directory and the /var/tmp/temproot/etc directories: > SURPRISE > the /etc/group, /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd files are empty. > And there is nothintg in the /var/tmp/temproot/etc directory > What in the world is going on here? > I have not closed down or rebooted as I am afraid that the whole > installation will be shot to hell. > What do I do? > Will restoring the saved group and master.passwd files do anything? Then > there is the empty passwd file. I suppose that running vipw and adduser > might fix things... > Also, there was no /etc/make.conf file. The installation has been pretty > much "by the book" using portupgrade" ... Actually portupgrade has to do with upgrading third-party software...so isn't relevant to upgrading the base system. > Everything works just fine - Xfree86-4.2; cups, kde3; I just want to > upgrade to 4.7 for openoffice. > Please help > PJ > It's hard to figure out what's wrong when the situation of not standard... you have to explore a littel to find out where the system is... Sorry that won't all help much-- Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com; with 4.6.2 install CD; 4.7 coming soon Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 23 4:16:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF4C37B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web40904.mail.yahoo.com (web40904.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E99543E65 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:16:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davemjones13@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021023111626.19228.qmail@web40904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.55.200.20] by web40904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:16:26 PDT Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:16:26 -0700 (PDT) From: dave jones Subject: Re: disconnect and reconnect how to keep jobs running To: Troy , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <11216761401.20021022231012@untoldfaith.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Troy -- Finally a question I can help with!!! Check out /usr/ports/misc/screen... I have only been using it for a short while, but it should do what you need. Here are some articles that got me started: http://www.freebsddiary.org/screen.php http://palm.freshmeat.net/articles/view/581/ ## more about a window manager, but it does contain some good information about screen at the beginning of the article. I have been using the command screen -D -R which I found in the man page. good luck! --- Troy wrote: > Hello, > A quick question. How do I disconnect from say a ssh session and > leave jobs > running, then get to my house (where the machine is located) then > reconnect to > the session and the running jobs? Is this possible? > > Thanks, > > Troy > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 23 4:46:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C99F37B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7503743E8A for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:46:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pippo@bellnet.ca) Received: from pippo.bellnet.ca ([65.94.96.113]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021023114613.DCFX12763.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@pippo.bellnet.ca>; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:46:13 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021023074431.00aa17e8@pop51.bellnet.ca> X-Sender: lesp3999@pop51.bellnet.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:46:12 -0400 To: Annelise Anderson From: pippo@bellnet.ca Subject: Re: upgrade to 4.7 Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20021022122918.00a901b0@mail.host45.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:34 AM 10/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: >It's puzzling to figure out what went wrong here--did you get >sources with cvsup? If so, do the various directories in /usr/src have >populated subdirectories? > >Mergemaster is the last step, after you're run make buildworld, built and >loaded a new kernel, run installworld. Portupgrade has to do with >third-party software, not the base system, and so it isn't really >relevant to this process. There are some indications you have actually >upgraded to 5.0, and not 4.7--that did you use for a tag in your supfile? > >Mergemaster uses sdiff (so man sdiff if you're going to use it). It seems >you chose the empty side of the comparisons on the merge. The problem was with mergemaster -p I was trying to use it, as suggested in the manual, before running make buildworld. It was not clear at all and some of the ooptions, like 'v' just did not function. So, I restored the backed-up master.passwd and group files, ran vipw and saved the file without modification. Everything back to normal. I then did the upgrade and ran mergemaster last without problem. I now have a 4.7 that seems to be runing fine. kde3 and samba are running fine, so is apache and, I suspect, the other proggies too. Thanks for the help. PJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 23 4:50:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938F237B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FBA43E9C for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pippo@bellnet.ca) Received: from pippo.bellnet.ca ([65.94.96.113]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021023115012.DEIZ12763.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@pippo.bellnet.ca> for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:50:12 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021023074949.00ac9e68@mail.host45.com> X-Sender: lesp3999@pop51.bellnet.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:50:11 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: pippo@bellnet.ca Subject: unsubscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 23 5:48:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB34337B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 05:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailx.meridianksi.net (mailx.meridianksi.net [207.86.113.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A95343E9E for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 05:48:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdewalt@meridianksi.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: disconnect and reconnect how to keep jobs running Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:52:20 -0400 Message-ID: <586382797A07B841B4014F547581E0AF3447@mailx.meridianksi.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: disconnect and reconnect how to keep jobs running Thread-Index: AcJ6Uwmt/zcOpo9kSrqdJvtP92zHCAAP2OjQ From: "Ryan Dewalt" To: "Troy" Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Troy [mailto:freebsd@untoldfaith.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:10 AM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: disconnect and reconnect how to keep jobs running Hello, A quick question. How do I disconnect from say a ssh session and = leave jobs running, then get to my house (where the machine is located) then = reconnect to the session and the running jobs? Is this possible? Thanks, Troy Install from the ports tree "screen" (in /usr/ports/misc/screen) then to start a job, prepend "screen" to the command. (ex: screen tail = -f /var/log/messages) To disconnect from the screen, press ctrl-a, ctrl-d To reconnect to the screen, type "screen -r" Screen has far more functionality than this, but this should be enough = to get you started. Hope this helps, -Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 24 0:13:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19C837B401 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp (mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp [133.42.159.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721E043E65 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s030037@center.wakayama-u.ac.jp) Received: from center.wakayama-u.ac.jp (alt.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp [133.42.147.113]) by mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3B6475E14 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:13:12 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3DB79DB2.3080306@center.wakayama-u.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:13:54 +0900 From: Rafael Sierra User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020811 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work References: <3DB43C68.54CF5B5@yahoo.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tim Heimbrock wrote: > Is the card recorgnized by the kernel? > Do you have any kind of error-message? Thanks for asking dmesg reports: > dmesg | grep sbc sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x300-0x301,0x388-0x38b irq 9 drq 0,5 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 from te same file I also noticed this: isa0: too many dependant configs (8) isa0: unexpected small tag 14 No idea why is this so. Thanks. Rafael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 24 2: 8:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B88437B401 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 02:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cumulus.netspace.net.au (cumulus.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2CB43E6A for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 02:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrichardson@netspace.net.au) Received: from tux.martin.org (dialup-203-113-254-93.Hobart.netspace.net.au [203.113.254.93]) by cumulus.netspace.net.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9O98QbC047822 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:08:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mrichardson@netspace.net.au) Subject: Re: Fbsd 4.7 - where is XF86Setup ? From: Martin Richardson To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20021022135915.GB5864@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> References: <20021022095545.B6486E956@server2.fastmail.fm> <20021022135915.GB5864@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Date: 24 Oct 2002 20:09:35 +1100 Message-Id: <1035450579.346.1.camel@tux.martin.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try xf86cfg, the new graphical setup utility! HTH Cheers, Martin On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 00:59, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # leegold@fastmail.fm / 2002-10-22 09:55:45 +0000: > > I don't know where to inspect my monitor's horiz and vert. > > sync and refresh - make sure it's in the safe range. > > 1) the manual that came with your monitor > 2) http://www.monitorworld.com/ > > -- > If you cc me or take the list(s) out completely I'll most likely > ignore your message. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 24 7:54:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949D137B401 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 07:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wally.christsgarden.org (memorris.redback.inficad.com [207.55.74.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E648343E3B for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 07:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from memorris@christsgarden.org) Received: from dilbert.christsgarden.org (dilbert.morris.home [192.168.77.2]) (authenticated) by wally.christsgarden.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9OF3AB10494 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:03:10 -0700 Subject: Question From: Michael Morris To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) Date: 24 Oct 2002 07:44:39 -0700 Message-Id: <1035470680.2126.16.camel@dilbert.christsgarden.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is my first posting here and hope this is the correct list for this type of question. I just installed FreeBSD a few days ago and have been configuring, resolving, etc. I have been running RedHat Linux for a couple of years now and am quite comfortable in that environment so FreeBSD is not alien at all. The question/problem I am facing now is a keyboard issue. The delete key is interpreted the same a the backspace key. Can that be changed and where would I look for the info needed to change it? Thanks Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 24 11: 3:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0E137B404 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.orangexl.nl (orangexl.cust.2ndreality.nl [213.239.135.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE0ED43E6A for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hostmaster@orangexl.com) Received: (qmail 38133 invoked by uid 89); 24 Oct 2002 18:04:57 -0000 Received: from cp262152-a.roose1.nb.home.nl (HELO CP262152A) (217.122.6.250) by orangexl.cust.2ndreality.nl with SMTP; 24 Oct 2002 18:04:57 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c27b89$c77fe960$0200a8c0@CP262152A> From: "Sander Holthaus" To: , , References: <001b01c27a6f$d5643d30$0200a8c0@CP262152A> Subject: FreeBSD 4.7 Watchdog Timeouts Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:18:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Disposition-Notification-To: "Sander Holthaus" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since FreeBSD 4.5, I've been using a Toshiba Satellite 320 CDT laptop with a Xircom Realport REM56G PCMCIA networkcard (and modem). While not easy, I got it to work under 4.5, and later 4.6 by setting it to PCIC-complaint under the BIOS (instead of 16bit mode), using IRC 10 and putting machdep.pccard.mem_start=0xd0000 in sysctl.conf. I always got a few Watchdog timeouts on starting up and when the card had to autonegoiate the media, but it worked. Now, I upgraded to FreeBSD 4.7, and the card has stopped working :-( Tried everything in the book (I think) to get it working again, but to no avail. It doesn't crash FreeBSD anymore like when for using 16bit PCCARD-mode in the BIOS and a shared IRQ 11, however it just doesn't to work. The connection LED goes on, but the receive LED never blinks, EVER. After a few second, a watchdog timeout occurs and the connections LED goes out and on again. I did notice a difference between 4.5 / 4.6 and 4.7. Just before the pccard deamon starts, I would see the machdep.pccard.mem_start value changing from something like 65360 to 85xxx. Later on I would see it again but from 85xxx to 85xxx (same value twice), rpobably from the entry I put in the sysctl.conf (machdep.pccard.mem_start=0xd4000). It doesn't anymore, just says the 8xxxx to 8xxxx at the end... Any idea's / suggestions? My guess is, that everything is OK (no IRC confilicts etc) , except for the place in memory that is used for the driver... Kind Regards, Sander Holthaus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 24 15: 2:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA9A37B401 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 404B943E42 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Yeti_1983@yahoo.de) Received: from pd9e34528.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO yahoo.de) (yeti?1983@217.227.69.40 with plain) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2002 22:02:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3DB86DB0.55F33BED@yahoo.de> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:01:20 +0200 From: Tim Heimbrock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work References: <3DB43C68.54CF5B5@yahoo.de> <3DB79DB2.3080306@center.wakayama-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rafael Sierra wrote: > > dmesg reports: > > > dmesg | grep sbc > sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x300-0x301,0x388-0x38b > irq 9 drq 0,5 on isa0 > pcm0: on sbc0 Do you get an error while/after trying to use this card? Have you tried using different programs (xmms, mpg321 etc)? > > isa0: too many dependant configs (8) > isa0: unexpected small tag 14 same thing here, but after a quick search on google I found this: http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/freebsd/43/proberesults.html > No idea why is this so. The link above says, that this means the PnP-card gave too many possible settings but that is not a problem. by the way, Rick Hamell wrote: [...] > You'll need to manually force the card to IRQ 10 in the Kernal. The AWE > (despite what Creative may say,) is not a true PNP sound card. Have you tried this? Maybe the AWE64 can only, for some reason, use certain IRQ's.(5,10?) Tim I assume, you do not want to be CC'ed, please correct me if that is wrong. __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 24 22:16:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3062237B401 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp (mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp [133.42.159.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9623E43E65 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:16:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s030037@center.wakayama-u.ac.jp) Received: from center.wakayama-u.ac.jp (alt.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp [133.42.147.113]) by mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AC1475F46 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:16:21 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3DB8D3CF.2010001@center.wakayama-u.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:17:03 +0900 From: Rafael Sierra User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020811 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work References: <3DB43C68.54CF5B5@yahoo.de> <3DB79DB2.3080306@center.wakayama-u.ac.jp> <3DB86DB0.55F33BED@yahoo.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tim Heimbrock wrote: > Do you get an error while/after trying to use this card? Have you tried > using different programs (xmms, mpg321 etc)? I've only tried with mpg321. Of course, no sound >>isa0: too many dependant configs (8) >>isa0: unexpected small tag 14 > > same thing here, but after a quick search on google I found this: > http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/freebsd/43/proberesults.html > The link above says, that this means the PnP-card gave too many possible > settings but that is not a problem. The only isa card in the system is the AWE64; just as the example in that page. Its says no-problem but, anyhow, it's a bit suspicious. > by the way, > Rick Hamell wrote: > [...] > >>You'll need to manually force the card to IRQ 10 in the Kernal. The AWE >>(despite what Creative may say,) is not a true PNP sound card. > > Have you tried this? > Maybe the AWE64 can only, for some reason, use certain IRQ's.(5,10?) I will. Don't know how to change the IRQ, but will check the manual. However, As I changed the kernel many times I'm confused: Do I need to rebuild/recompile the kernel? Or it suffices doing for example "config KERNEL_PLUS_SOUND" and "make {depend, clean,,install}"? > Tim > I assume, you do not want to be CC'ed, please correct me if that is > wrong. CC is ok. Thankyou. Rafael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 25 6:14:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F82F37B401 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 06:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vulcan.rsasecurity.com (mail.rsasecurity.com [204.167.114.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DE6643E7B for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 06:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhicks@rsasecurity.com) Received: from no.name.available by vulcan.rsasecurity.com via smtpd (for mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) with SMTP; 25 Oct 2002 13:14:25 UT Received: from ebola.securitydynamics.com (ebola.securid.com [192.80.211.4]) by sdtihq24.securid.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00394 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exna00.securitydynamics.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ebola.securitydynamics.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g9PDBgn06090 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exna00.securitydynamics.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3TPWFA69>; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:14:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Hicks, Dave" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:14:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-newbies subscribe freebsd-questions END To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 25 14:30:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A2E37B406 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net (ctb-mesg1.saix.net [196.25.240.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133BB43E42 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angus@unix.za.net) Received: from thor (ue53-01-p209.ec.saix.net [155.239.164.209]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g9PLUBqT002428 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:30:16 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <000001c27c6d$35e05910$0200a8c0@thor> From: "angus" To: References: <3DB43C68.54CF5B5@yahoo.de> Subject: dialing up Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:46:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have a modem that wont dial unless it has, it set "do not wait for dial tone" (in widnows) where do i put atx3 (in what file?) so it can dial up in unix angus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 25 17:53:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2300C37B401 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89FD643E75 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Yeti_1983@yahoo.de) Received: from pd9e34fc8.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO yahoo.de) (yeti?1983@217.227.79.200 with plain) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Oct 2002 00:53:49 -0000 Message-ID: <3DB9E744.7BC9A8C7@yahoo.de> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:52:20 +0200 From: Tim Heimbrock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafael Sierra Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not get sound card to work References: <3DB43C68.54CF5B5@yahoo.de> <3DB79DB2.3080306@center.wakayama-u.ac.jp> <3DB86DB0.55F33BED@yahoo.de> <3DB8D3CF.2010001@center.wakayama-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rafael Sierra wrote: > > by the way, > > Rick Hamell wrote: > > [...] > > > >>You'll need to manually force the card to IRQ 10 in the Kernal. The AWE > >>(despite what Creative may say,) is not a true PNP sound card. > > > > Have you tried this? > > Maybe the AWE64 can only, for some reason, use certain IRQ's.(5,10?) > I will. Don't know how to change the IRQ, but will check the manual. I searched the mailing list archieves about this: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1406097+1410117+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-questions/20000618.freebsd-questions (hope the URL works and helps) Furthermore today I noticed something, that could help you: While setting PNP-OS-SUPPORT to YES in my BIOS, my card does not work and is assigned to the same values you posted. But, if you change this setting, there is the possibility that some of your card(s) need to be reconfigured, because of IRQ/DRQ assignment changes (this happened to me). > However, As I changed the kernel many times I'm confused: Do I need to > rebuild/recompile the kernel? Or it suffices doing for example "config > KERNEL_PLUS_SOUND" and "make {depend, clean,,install}"? Honestly, I do not know, but after looking at the Makefiles for both the "traditional" and the "new" way, I guess you need to build a new kernel. (can someone please correct me if I am wrong here) Tim __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 26 21:10:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D71B37B401; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [66.11.168.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160CE43E4A; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@m20.unixathome.org) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D23CD7A8D; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-10-06 - 2002-10-26 Message-Id: <20021027041003.D23CD7A8D@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 17-Oct : Upgrading to stunnel 4 Upgrading to stunnel 4 http://freebsddiary.org/stunnel-v3-to-v4.php?2 15-Oct : Adding a new drive via the serial console using dump/restore The serial console saves the day! http://freebsddiary.org/serial-console2.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 26 23:13:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F4F37B404 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (sccmmhc02.mchsi.com [204.127.203.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7D543E65 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:13:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dragon@dlance.com) Received: from dlance.com ([12.215.144.77]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021027061331.DUQP7801.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@dlance.com> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:13:31 +0000 Message-ID: <3DBB8406.3000401@dlance.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:13:26 -0500 From: Justyn K User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Very dumb question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm wanting to reinstall freebsd 4.7 completely from scartch but I broke my floppy drive and I really dont think my cdrom is bootable. I have tried /stand/sysinstall but it doesent completely erase the old filesystem. Am I doing something wrong? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message