Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 09:01:53 -0800 From: Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> Cc: Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org>, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r344316 - head/sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs Message-ID: <1235DF70-2954-4421-9CF3-AA0538B24720@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20190220075613.GC84455@FreeBSD.org> References: <201902192335.x1JNZu53080578@repo.freebsd.org> <20190219234328.wrmteippr6vbg2fr@mutt-hbsd> <20190220075613.GC84455@FreeBSD.org>
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> On Feb 19, 2019, at 23:56, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 06:43:28PM -0500, Shawn Webb wrote: >> At the risk of painting a bikeshed a lovely color of neon purple, I'm >> curious about if/how these types of commits get merged upstream to >> (OpenZFS|Illumos|ZFS On Linux|where ever ZFS upstream is now|I'm very >> confused|is anyone else confused where upstream is?). >>=20 >> Who is upstream? Is work like this going to remain as a downstream >> patch to ZFS? Or is FreeBSD going to work to upstream this type of >> work? >=20 > I've always felt that we should've become upstream to everyone else > the moment we knew Oracle would eat Sun (20 April 2009), and never > understood why it didn't happen and now, ten years later, we're talking > about ZFS on fucking Linux becoming our upstream. Something'd got very > wrong here and I'd like to know what and why. As others have pointed out, FreeBSD has less developer inertia than Linux, a= nd there are (seemingly) less developers or interested parties in running an= openindiana based stack. Also: better OS support for other general purpose infrastructure/usecases wi= th items like multitenancy via containerization/CGroups2, Java, etc, and min= dshare around this and other things. The only thing really holding ZoL back in Linux is the fact that (due to lic= ensing) it won=E2=80=99t ever be in the Linux kernel. -Enji=
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