Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:10:56 -0700 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@3-cities.com> To: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com> Cc: "'Young'" <young@richardson.apana.org.au>, "FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)" <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: aliening and freetel Message-ID: <37C4BE50.281B26F5@3-cities.com> References: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105BF3@site2s1>
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Christopher Michaels wrote:
>
> Well, for the record, FreeBSD and other assorted *NIX's are easier to use
> now than they used to be (as hard as that is to believe). I will admit the
> best resource is to have someone else "in-the-know" who is able to help you
> out when you get stuck.
I used to maintain that I could setup a NAT dial out on an NT Server
faster than I could setup ppp on FreeBSD. That is still true but only
if you haven't setup a FreeBSD kernel for a gateway. I used pmdemand
basically right out of the sample file. I did delete everything in
ppp.linkup and ppp.linkdown until I was left with
pmdemand:
delete ALL
add 0 0 HISADDR
for a linkup and
pmdemand:
iface clear
for a linkdown.
I set timeout to 600 because I want ppp to drop the line after 10 mins
of inactivity and not my ISP. I also wanted the connect speed to be
logged in the ppp.log. I invoke ppp with
"ppp -auto pmdemand"
The alias enable in pmdemand in ppp.conf is already established. I
just had to change ppp on the login to my username and password. I use
static local IP's and receive a dynamic IP from my ISP. I have
setiathome running on NT. To make it work I found I have to run it
from a batch file, which has a ping followed by a sleep 30 before I
fireup setiathome. I auto terminate at the end of process in order to
capture my result file. Then I ping, sleep, and xfer the data to
Berkeley followed by a terminate. Then I run the batch file that uses
the other set of data. This combination will autodial for days until
Berkeley tries something and I can't connect and transfer data
properly. If a transfer dies, I have 5-10 hours to download the next
work unit. If I don't see the lack of a work unit, the batch files are
very persistent until they get a set of data. I had tried doing
something similar with NAT on NT but life was more difficult for
FreeBSD going that way than NT going the other. FreeBSD dials fast
enough that I don't have to play games with setiathome on FreeBSD. I
get a message that chat failed once in a while but that is usually a
busy line. The problem with the documentation is that there is too
many options that really deal with using a machine as a server on the
Internet and when you want the system to just demand dial out and
alias for your other machines it is really KISS simple.
Kent
>
> The next best thing is this mailing list, and I can tell you that I would
> not know what I do today if it weren't for the great people here helping me
> out. Don't give up hope, it does get easier from here. But, that's a bit
> off topic.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Young [SMTP:young@richardson.apana.org.au]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 5:52 PM
> > To: Christopher Michaels
> > Subject: Re: aliasing and freetel
> >
> >
> >
> > >Well, glad you're coming along...
> >
> > Most of my associates who have tried various *nixes have given
> > up long ago and now runn screaming for the hills if anyone so much
> > as mentions linux or unix ..... after all the problems I've encountered
> > I know exactly how the feel. If I don't run out of patience soon and
> > ever manage to get this thing working I'm gonna write a "proper"
> > set of instructions to save others from having to go through all this
> > stuff
> > >>
> > > Um now here is where I'm confused. Do you mean that if you dial
> > >from the win98 machine it works? or do you mean that you dial from the
> > BSD
> > >machine and then access the internet through it using the win98?
> > >
> > I mean I can dial DIRECTLY from the Windows boxes
> >
> > The BSD one won't do anything except stay connected for about 3 minutes at
> > most and will ping / traceroute the first of my two DNS numbers ......
> > NOTHING
> > MORE
> >
> >
> > > host unreachable... hrmm... still sounds like routing to me. I wish
> > >someone else on the list would chime in on this one tho.
> > >
> > OK ..... consider all those millions of Win95 internet computers the kids
> > play Doom / Quake / whatever on ..... we've all set hundreds of them up,
> > and never had to even give a moments thought to routing or default routes
> > or
> > the like ....... why won't this stupid BSD one of mine at least connect
> > properly and allow me to ping / traceroute / browse / whatever as a
> > standalone thing ...... isn't it better to at least get that basic thing
> > sorted out before messing around with tricky stuff like LAN access /
> > routing
> > / whatever ??
> >
> Well, windows handles this automatically, for the most part. And
> point well taken. But, also, for the record, I've never had as much trouble
> as you are having with setting up ppp, not even on my 1st try.
>
> I don't genuinely know if it's a routing problem. That's why I'd
> like you to send the list the output of 'netstat -rn' and 'ifconfig -a'.
> Hopefully someone (if not myself) can determine that.
>
> One other thing, while I know that the other end of your link is
> supposed to be the ip address that you stated earlier, and most likely is.
> I'd like to know, does the output of "show ipcp" (at the PPP> prompt)
> actually display that number for "His Address".
>
> > I'm re-installing BSD again now ..... should have it ready to dialup again
> > in half hour with a bit of luck so I'll se if I can manage to copy that
> > ppp.conf / netstat -nr stuff etc file then
>
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