From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 7 22:14:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADA01065673 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher-ml@telting.org) Received: from mail.telting.org (mail.telting.org [204.109.56.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49B68FC17 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apollo.local (cpe-76-169-198-42.socal.res.rr.com [76.169.198.42]) by mail.telting.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7514E2A867 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4C5DDAC0.2020101@telting.org> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 15:14:24 -0700 From: Chris Telting User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100720 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C55991C.4020205@telting.org> <864ofcpcrg.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TEKEN_UTF8 TEKEN_XTERM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 22:14:28 -0000 On 08/05/10 01:10, David DEMELIER wrote: > I think using "xterm" as term definition is just stupid. If you're not > running X why will you use a term that live in X normally? By the way > it also sucks if you make some $TERM settings considering your shell. > > The point of these options (TEKEN_UTF8 and TEKEN_XTERM) is to enable an internally Unicode based terminal and from there have characters mapped according to font files. With standard hardware you can have 256 or 512 text mode characters. Unless you have a real terminal on a serial port the term at your console is emulated with your video card and keyboard. xterm I believe is a more advanced terminal definition with a large number of additional capabilities over a simple vt100 terminal. So we can try to use what exists now "xterm" or we can create yet another terminal definition. Once the above works the next step would be to extend the terminal driver to use graphics modes and with modern accelerated cards it should be trivial to achieve the same speed we are use to with text mode. Some people were playing around with this years ago but so far I haven't found anything new. And while English is my native language I welcome the evolution of new international capabilities. What can I say, I'm a fan of text mode. Chris