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Date:      Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:42:05 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Sam Zamarripa <samz@oz.net>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) 
Message-ID:  <200011192342.eAJNg5F10103@mass.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:51:00 %2B1030." <20001120095100.G58333@echunga.lemis.com> 

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> On Sunday, 19 November 2000 at 14:33:17 -0800, Sam Zamarripa wrote:
> > I have been using DD since I first starting followin stable in the 3.0 days
> > with no problems. When and if DD is taken out, do all of us with DD disks be
> > required to reformat our drives? This would be a real big
> > pain if so. Thanks.
> 
> As far as I know, there has been no decision to remove dedicated mode.

The ability to create "dangerously dedicated" layouts will be removed.

> I for one would strongly oppose it.  Arguments about bootstraps and
> BIOS are bogus: on a dedicated machine, you only need a bootstrap on
> the boot disk, so any additional disks can always be dedicated. 

This is incorrect, as has been discussed previously.  The mere presence 
of a disk with a corrupt slice table is enough to cause a number of 
common components to fail.

> But
> to answer your question: if you have to change from dedicated to a
> Microsoft compatible layout, yes, you'll have to rebuild all your file
> systems.

This is entirely incorrect, and makes an unwarranted assumption of 
massive stupidity on the part of the responsible developers.

The ability to deal with disks with "dangerously dedicated" layouts is 
unlikely to be removed at any forseeable point.  This is such an obvious 
point that spreading FUD about it really calls into doubt your true 
motives here.

-- 
... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
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