From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 17:04:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8DF16A4BF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB3C43FD7 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilson32@kc.rr.com) Received: from webkl7bcj7ou3q (CPE-65-28-67-59.kc.rr.com [65.28.67.59]) h8904Ms0004267 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:04:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004901c37665$ec361e50$3b431c41@webkl7bcj7ou3q> From: "Derik Wilson" To: References: <20030908063856.W80387-100000@moo.sysabend.org> <20030908161846.T32034@12-234-22-23.pyvrag.nggov.pbz> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:04:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: The Old Way Was Better X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:04:27 -0000 Like a sid a long time ago. I am a freeBSD newb so as you can guess I like to learn all I can about freeBSD and anything else for that matter, however, at the moment, all I see are people bickering about something that they can no longer control. The release of freeBSD 5.x. This doesn't help. Let's find a way to learn from this instead of firing opinions at each other about how we think one release is better than the other. Sorry if I am stepping over my boundries but can we talk about the good things that cam from the new release and maybe some problems that can be addressed (but not in an offensive manner.) Debates are good when controlled and guided. Thanks all! Keep us newbies alive! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Barton" To: "Jamie Bowden" Cc: "Michel Talon" ; Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: Re: The Old Way Was Better > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > > As for the rest of your post, it's all very interesting, but incredibly > > > unlikely to happen. The creation of the RELENG_4_X branches solved the > > > immediate need for a "stable branch plus security fixes." 5.x is still > > > -current, and while we do need to be more careful with our marketing > > > (and more careful with what goes into a 5.x release), massive branch > > > renaming just isn't going to happen, nor is expanding the number of > > > branches going to help. > > > > Once -STABLE moves from 4.x to 5.x (so that the project is back on 5.x-R, > > 5-S, and 5-C), is STABLE once again going to BE stable? > > We are delaying the branch in -current until we're reasonably confident > that the thing is stable enough to use in a production system. Of > course, as soon as we declare it "stable" then the number of users will > go up dramatically, and more bugs will be found. This is inevitable. > > Doug > > -- > > This .signature sanitized for your protection > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >