From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 9 22:50:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A811E16A4CE for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:50:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2028543D1F for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:50:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1Cz0fb-0000xK-Lf; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:50:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:50:51 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050209225051.GC18759@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , "Andrew L. Gould" , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <420A8E66.8080703@tbc.net> <200502091643.15882.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FmdPcZLZZW6lDAYm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200502091643.15882.algould@datawok.com> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logo Contest X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:50:56 -0000 --FmdPcZLZZW6lDAYm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 04:43:15PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Wednesday 09 February 2005 04:27 pm, Shawn Harrison wrote: > > Robert Watson wrote [02/09/05 3:13 PM]: > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > >> I was particularly pleased to read a comment on Daemon News that > > >> Beastie would remain the mascot and that the logo and mascot are > > >> being separated. I am hopeful that this comment was accurate. > > > > > > The comment is accurate. We'd like to get a logo we can provide to > > > companies that are willing to stick it on their products as > > > "supporting FreeBSD" -- while we all love the Daemon, we know that > > > not every company can stick it on their Ethernet card box or server > > > support web page. The intent is to keep Beastie as the Mascot, and > > > you'll still see him all over the place. I can't imagine that > > > FreeBSD t-shirts will stop holding him, let alone the large number > > > of web pages, CDROM distributions, and so on. And don't forget the > > > stuffed animal Beasties :-). > > > > I'm glad to hear this, because the announcement paragraph about > > "religious sensitivities" would certainly lead one to a different > > conclusion. If what you're saying is honest, then that paragraph is > > entirely beside the point. > > > > The real point is to have a professional looking _logo_ to > > _complement_ (not replace) the cute mascot. That makes sense. > > Replacing the mascot with something else for the reasons cited in > > that paragraph does not make sense. > > > > -- > > Shawn Harrison >=20 > I think that hits the nail on the head; but that's not the message that= =20 > got out. The message that got out is not finished. Twelve hours ago I was still in discussion with various people over exactly what the announcement will say, and as far as I'm aware that has still not been finalised and I sure as hell have not seen an announcement being made. Two weeks ago everyone got excited because there was a pixel tracker named g5powerbook.gif on apple.com - look what that got us. Wait for the announcement. > I've been reading the fallout both on this list and=20 > freebsd-questions. There's a lot of unnecessary heat out there. >=20 > Can an "official someone" send out an official message emphasizing the=20 > following: >=20 > 1. Beastie is the mascot. This will remain unchanged. >=20 > 2. We need a professional logo, separately and regardless of PC=20 > (Political Correctness) issues. That's the idea, but I am not the "official someone" that you are looking for. Wait for the announcement. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --FmdPcZLZZW6lDAYm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCCpPLocfcwTS3JF8RAl5XAJ42eVzHmTodLo5TFHf/DONZcqbw6ACeIeHY K6uRXJOeU3ZAvWy1+jC8yaY= =ugCR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FmdPcZLZZW6lDAYm--