From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 17:26:10 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D7636AC1B for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 17:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c200059a8fed.9df6a3368b1b50a02fb52ea746b4013b@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BDXzP1Q54z4Sbm for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 17:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c200059a8fed.9df6a3368b1b50a02fb52ea746b4013b@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1595697969; x=1598289969; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=j48ywI0c3kxJqrGxJEYFoFydFOKxTYpatROoxh1u/rc=; b=l4dDGnJr4SXTL21AW2RFTMEJL8L23jKgQJCFre9CTzGOmeXCmC5sskZEqEpCb/UFlYFwHsQvEcvvo7+yBpy7b1CA42jWT5jgs10o+seZpYw2SaDQfdazdUq8Ek32b7PRq6dnuwYSP5tRiPL0WUYVWZEW0JwnfXl8SYP/6S8WTi0= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMjAwMDU5YThmZWQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.190.2]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 25 Jul 2020 13:25:58 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 25 Jul 2020 13:25:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jzNvm-0002sL-BR; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:25:54 +0100 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:25:54 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Ask stupid questions and you'll get a stupid answers, was: Technological advantages over Linux Message-Id: <20200725182554.deffc63058a7c9f6d343ef06@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> <20200215063818.GE1482@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org> <58202623-bbf7-eda0-5cb5-fb4749e91e20@watters.ws> <6318251A-973A-4DEC-9271-12333EB11F7B@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200725152412.GJ92589@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200725162403.GA4721@admin.sibptus.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BDXzP1Q54z4Sbm X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=l4dDGnJr; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c200059a8fed.9df6a3368b1b50a02fb52ea746b4013b@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c200059a8fed.9df6a3368b1b50a02fb52ea746b4013b@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.961]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.77)[-0.771]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c200059a8fed.9df6a3368b1b50a02fb52ea746b4013b@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c200059a8fed.9df6a3368b1b50a02fb52ea746b4013b@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 17:26:10 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 13:18:08 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Prime example is > all the crap that FreeBSD has had to import from Linux to make X work has > made it incredibly unstable (I have to reboot 3 or 4 times a day if I am > using KDE, Gnome or any other Linux originated desktop software usually > due to it slowing to a crawl for no apparent reason [has to be resource > leak of some kind]). Yeuch, but it has nothing to do with making X work, X works just fine for as long as you care to leave it running. I can't speak for Gnome or KDE I don't use them, but with a simple WM X is as rock solid as it has ever been. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith