From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jul 11 21:00:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26056 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 21:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25969 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (narn-1-117.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.134.117]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.0) id WAA01896; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 22:59:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id WAA14962; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 22:59:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980712035953.ZM14961@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:59:53 +0000 In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey "Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and multiple copyright holders)" (Jul 12, 12:49pm) References: <199807110349.VAA28411@lariat.lariat.org> <19980711142500.C23241@freebie.lemis.com> <980712031453.ZM14755@darkstar.connect.com> <19980712124913.R23241@freebie.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Brett Glass , Greg Lehey , Pat Lynch Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and multiple copyright holders) Cc: Wes Peters , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@canonware.com, smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Jul 12, 12:49pm, Greg Lehey wrote: > Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and mult > On Sunday, 12 July 1998 at 3:14:53 +0000, Frank Pawlak wrote: > > On Jul 11, 2:25pm, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and mult > >> On Saturday, 11 July 1998 at 0:34:56 -0400, Pat Lynch wrote: > >>> On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Brett Glass wrote: > >>>> Interestingly, the Microsoft Windows 95 implementations of a few TCP/IP > >>>> utilities are said to have Berkeley copyright notices in the code, which > >>>> means they're probably derived from FreeBSD utilities. Is Microsoft giving > >>>> credit to the developers? If it isn't, it may be violating the > >>>> Berkeley-style license and thus could be the target of a copyright > >>>> lawsuit. > >>>> > >>>> Hmmm. Now there's an idea. Anyone care to research this? > >>> > >>> I talked to a guy from Apple, and they use alot of BSD derived code in Mac > >>> OS X Server (Rhapsody 1.0) and they said they do not have to distribute > >>> code, just include UCB's copyright notice > >> > >> That's correct. > >> > >>> and make the code available on request.... > >> > >> No, there's no obligation to make the code available on request. > >> > >>> now MS *might* do this if we asked (unlikely, but hey, worth a try) > >> > >> It would certainly be worth a try. > > > > God Greg, why would you ever want Micros*@#t code? I am sure on you worst days > > you write better code by accident than they do on purpose. ;-) > > I think we're misunderstanding each other. I was suggesting that > somebody (not me :-) should try to get Microslop to adhere to the > license conditions and declare that their software includes > Berkeley-derived programs. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Greg Lehey I am pulling your leg as we Yanks say. I know your intent, just playing with your words. Regards, Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message