From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 20:10:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate0.sover.net (mailgate0.sover.net [209.198.87.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0218637B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dad.state.vt.us) Received: from yoyo (arc5a42.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.43]) by mailgate0.sover.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f383AY410118 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000001c0bfd9$3b96a230$1201a8c0@sanmik.com> From: "Mike Barton" To: References: <20010405111707.A35325@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org><3ACE972D.A13CF44C@babbleon.org> <15054.57979.84674.462609@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:24:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are there any issues with placing swap first on the hard drive? Unless you insist on filling the drive, it seems to me that this swap arrangement would result in less stack travel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Meyer" To: "The Babbler" Cc: "Rasputin" ; Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 5:48 AM Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? > The Babbler types: > > Rasputin wrote: > > > man disklabel etc all assume you know what those letters mean. > > > I know c is the whole partition, but that's it. > > > > c = entire disk > > a = root > > b = swap > > d = ??? I don't know; it's never used > > e+ = other partitions. > > > > BTW, does anybody know *why* BSD uses such a bizarre scheme? > > BSD does it this way because the Unix it was based on did it. This > dates back to at least v6, where I first met it. Root and swap used to > be wired into the kernel at config time, and making the first two > partitions the system had to find while booting the first two in the > table does make sense. C was required and unusuable; it included the > cylinders that were reserved for bad block handling, and the tools > that did that assumed it was there. It was also used for disk-disk > backups at times. > > At the time, computers were typically used by more than one department > at a time. This led to even more reasons to want to partition a disk. > If memory serves, partition table information used to be in the kernel > - wired into the driver for that disk - so all disks of the same type > had to have the same partition table. So it was useful to stagger the > partition sizes to provide more choices. A typical setup might have f, > g and h about the same size and covering the entire disk. e was what > was left in f after a & b were taken out. d was the usable disk beyond > a & b (or something like that). > > The only thing that's still hardwired is that root has to be on a. The > boot sequence is fubar if you don't do that, though it's been claimed > that that's not hard to fix. The rest you can do pretty much any way > you please. I.e. - you don't need swap at all, and I've got one system > that has swap on a different slice than it's root file system. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message