From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 00:06:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB7D16A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969E643D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:06:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k8305t7B021484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Sep 2006 17:05:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k8305sgh021483; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 17:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA11608; Fri, 1 Sep 06 19:09:42 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Sep 06 19:09:42 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609020209.AA11608@pluto.rain.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060901164400.48F3.GERARD@seibercom.net> References: <20060901164400.48F3.GERARD@seibercom.net> Cc: gerard@seibercom.net Subject: [PARTIAL SOLUTION] Re: Trouble building abiword in the Ports Collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 00:06:06 -0000 > > # pkgdb -F > > ---> Checking the package registry database > > > > [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... > > /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid > > argument; rebuild needed] [Rebuilding the pkgdb in > > /var/db/pkg ... /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format -- > > Invalid argument: Cannot update the pkgdb!]: Cannot update the pkgdb!] > > OK, navigate to the /var/db/pkg directory and either delete or rename > the 'pkg.db' file. Then run: > > pkgdb -aFfuv > > Assuming that works, resume with the rest of the directions I gave you > previously. That enabled the portupgrade to succeed, but abiword still fails. I've sent the logs to freebsd-gnome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 00:13:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B896416A4E6 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFA743D81 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:12:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool3.panix.com (mailspool3.panix.com [166.84.1.78]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDA15881E; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA857D2DCE2; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GJfbM-0000P2-00; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:12:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:12:40 -0400 From: stan To: "Sean M." Message-ID: <20060903001240.GA1538@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Sean M." , Free BSD Questions list References: <20060902145102.GB17871@teddy.fas.com> <20060902183612.31344.qmail@web52311.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060902183612.31344.qmail@web52311.mail.yahoo.com> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 20:11:30 up 138 days, 21:16, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: KDE does not keep it's configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 00:13:37 -0000 On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 11:36:11AM -0700, Sean M. wrote: > Should be in your home directory, as ~/.kde and ~/.kderc > Yes, Script started on Sat Sep 2 20:10:18 2006 stan@brown.fas.com:/home/stan $ ls -ld .kd* drwx------ 4 stan stan 512 Sep 1 23:05 .kde/ -rw------- 1 stan stan 154 Sep 2 20:05 .kderc stan@brown.fas.com:/home/stan $ Script done on Sat Sep 2 20:10:29 2006 But, yet it still presents the setup wizzard every time I log in. Sugestions? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 00:41:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B72116A4F3 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CC543D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:41:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1468042wxd for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=j/UnzP2SHgZxbxain/noYLbis910kRULg3TFjD7OWpSqwNpxrGF1mnBthe2bUTrXtmD0PA1PknIVOKRTVpv677KffzzgidLXHo+hYppYh1KnwC7hjFYzAp+frJa9x9RiznI9mlXFfzHHbttMzSyBgLdu9DQh5XQXciOXXaA/Wyk= Received: by 10.70.122.13 with SMTP id u13mr5149196wxc; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.5? ( [67.191.189.255]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 3sm3584431wrh.2006.09.02.17.41.46; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <487FA1B8-10BC-47AC-B732-2EBA292BA81F@mac.com> References: <487FA1B8-10BC-47AC-B732-2EBA292BA81F@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <74751EBD-3119-48EF-A6ED-6777DC5AD38E@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Anthony Agelastos Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:41:44 -0400 To: g X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do you get gnustep to run? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 00:41:56 -0000 GNUstep is a framework for application development. Please refer to http://gnustep.org/ for more information regarding this. I assume that you are looking for a user interface that is similar to NEXTSTEP; if this is true, you should check out Window Maker (www.windowmaker.info), which is also mentioned within GNUstep's website. To have Window Maker start on boot automatically, please refer to the FreeBSD Handbook and read Chapter 5 ( http:// www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html ) As for GNUstep, it will automatically configure your environment when your system boots. Your system accomplishes this with the script /usr/ local/etc/rc.d/GNUstep.sh. If you wish to know more about how this script works and how to use it, please refer to the FreeBSD Handbook and read Chapter 11.7 ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/ books/handbook/configtuning-rcd.html ). I hope this helps. On Sep 2, 2006, at 7:08 PM, g wrote: > Freebsd 6.1 > > gnustep installed from the /usr/ports/lang/ > make > make install > > but when i type startx, i get the x windowing system. > what do i need to do to get gnustep running and running at startup, > when i turn on the computer. > > g. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 01:01:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA6916A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC14743D70 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:01:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k8311I55002327 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k8311IYo002322 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:01:17 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060903010117.GA2261@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: fsck clean.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:01:23 -0000 People, I'm clueless about why I had so my trouble with / (/dev/ad0s1a), but it's fsck-clean. s there anything else I should do before I reset the BIOS and try to reboot? I checked /boot; there were things dated 18 July, but I can't make any sense of this,or the stderr that were spat to the screen. Must have ben 50-75 lines; that's a guess. Anybody? I'm looking for kernel input in particular, but *Any* suggestions welcome. thanks in advance, of course, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 01:11:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734A716A500; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B443243D45; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k831B2Dq002362; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k831B26P002361; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:11:02 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Atom Powers Message-ID: <20060903011102.GB2261@thought.org> References: <20060902033024.GA68680@thought.org> <20060902040551.GI25190@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: System down, won't come up (was: Oh, no....) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:11:02 -0000 On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 08:33:44AM -0700, Atom Powers wrote: > On 9/1/06, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >On Friday, 1 September 2006 at 20:30:24 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > >> > >> Well, gang, for about the only time in ten or eleven years, my > >> FreeBSD has kernel crashed. The kernel err is 18 I believe a > >> int divide by zero. I backup most stuff regularly but still have > >> several megs of data files. Can I fix this with a fixit disk? > >> Or is all hope lost? > > If it's only the data you want, try a FreeSBIE boot disk. That will > give you access to the file system/network, so you can recover your > data. > Where can I get this FreeSBIE boot disk? Is it a floppy or can I burn a CDROM? I have a "burner" on my new Ubuntu box, but have never burned anything but an audio CD. This is one of the myriad things I've never heard of, but sounds like it should be shipped with each CD boxed set... gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 01:54:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C49516A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5F943D58 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: (qmail 16540 invoked by uid 0); 3 Sep 2006 01:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (216.186.148.249) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 01:54:11 -0000 In-Reply-To: <000701c6ce48$ef2fc410$0601010a@BB3500> References: <000701c6ce48$ef2fc410$0601010a@BB3500> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <14FE41B6-B36C-4D18-B3C0-D13FBF51660E@hiwaay.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:54:09 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: Re: Is the new version going to be easier to get working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:54:14 -0000 On Sep 1, 2006, at 11:33 PM, NoIP (exemail) wrote: > Hi, > > Two mornings ago I was feeling pretty good. I had > downloaded and > burnt to disc freebsd, pcbsd and also desktopbsd. But not now > > Having 21 computers here I figured I would finally be rid of > MSwindows, and have a complete LAN system that was more reliable. Why would you want to make things reliable? With Windows your career is secure knowing you will have to be kept around to keep them running. Microsoft cleverly backs a certification program to make sure its graduates never recommend anything other than what they have been "trained". > Seven computers I have tried with all three BSDs and not > one of them > managed to produce a working network connection. The only thing I > achieved > was that now I can almost visualise every screen from the > installations. Start by forgetting about the installation screens. They are only there to get the most basic things running well enough to get the system installed on disk(s). After one is running from the installed image one almost never returns to sysinstall. ifconfig(8) is probably the most important tool, from command line, that you need to diagnose network configuration and ultimately configure the connection. ping(8) is equally useful. If you have a DHCP server the machine is to use then as root where fxp0 is my NIC: # dhclient fxp0 If that works then /etc/rc.conf needs this line: ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" If your machine's address is static then this sets 192.168.10.12 on a /24 net: ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.10.12/24" If you have run sysconfig multiple times then you likely have conflicting replications in /etc/rc.conf (only the last reference applies). Manually edit and reconcile the differences. > I am baffled by how anyone is able to get a bsd networked > system > working. I guess I just have to stick with a windowsOS. OK, no skin off my nose. Your problem solving skills are terrible. When (supposedly?) looking for help you do nothing but complain without saying anything specific about what wasn't working or the hardware involved. I highly recommend Microsoft products to people such as yourself. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 02:14:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AB816A4E0 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 02:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E81A43D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 02:14:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1483210wxd for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:14:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Iiyzth6vWYse98qg2aPPyMZIvZi9dtaLYxhK7PDLs1xrh4Qe4rqRJ/uYckcGeBtlywaZKiN1F6jEDXgXyppoJY9deTyyzKeVNGAhecexLCR66O2uNqPCrRq0MIxMurwKDK6xmW7a3KytOPXyQiEe6ph2X/pUWvPWG2cvpOmlM8I= Received: by 10.70.21.10 with SMTP id 10mr3121509wxu; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 19:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 21:12:56 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Force UDMA100 drive to UDMA33 or PIO4? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:14:31 -0000 How do you force a UDMA100 drive to UDMA33 or PIO4 mode in FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 02:25:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980CC16A501 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 02:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys22.mail.msu.edu (sys22.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C8643D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 02:25:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys22.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GJhfS-0003YN-4u; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:25:02 -0400 References: <20060902033024.GA68680@thought.org> <20060902040551.GI25190@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060903011102.GB2261@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20060903011102.GB2261@thought.org> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: Gary Kline Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:25:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: Atom Powers , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: System down, won't come up (was: Oh, no....) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:25:03 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 08:33:44AM -0700, Atom Powers wrote: >> On 9/1/06, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> >On Friday, 1 September 2006 at 20:30:24 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >> >> >> >> Well, gang, for about the only time in ten or eleven years, my >> >> FreeBSD has kernel crashed. The kernel err is 18 I believe a >> >> int divide by zero. I backup most stuff regularly but still have >> >> several megs of data files. Can I fix this with a fixit disk? >> >> Or is all hope lost? >> >> If it's only the data you want, try a FreeSBIE boot disk. That will >> give you access to the file system/network, so you can recover your >> data. >> > > Where can I get this FreeSBIE boot disk? Is it a floppy or can I > burn a CDROM? I have a "burner" on my new Ubuntu box, but have > never burned anything but an audio CD. > > > > This is one of the myriad things I've never heard of, > but sounds like it should be shipped with each CD boxed > set... > > > It is. I think all you have to do is boot the regular CD and select live system or something like that (I don't remember the exact label in the menu, but it should be apparent. Then you can mount the other disk[s] and try to rescue things. ////jerry > gary > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 02:57:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C99116A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 02:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A39543D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 02:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 48434 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 02:57:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qQuSgMFbHYDX7TM5vNcTGPwEUhR8Bm2xUjWrwUEQQ41fibumDl9se4QTBF/RK8HSJISMc3aB/03izeSrN/e+hfxvPFhO+2PBB5B4B7Hx9vriUcMy6/E96AJYPXMKVUim09UOtEYmEC3/WGHg2eoZ/4ldrQV4Wn9R5s5/FJoey3o= ; Received: from unknown (HELO chaucer.jeays.ca) (mj001@rogers.com@24.43.50.5 with plain) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 02:57:02 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:57:01 -0400 Message-Id: <1157252221.60659.6.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Force UDMA100 drive to UDMA33 or PIO4? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:57:08 -0000 On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 21:12 -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > How do you force a UDMA100 drive to UDMA33 or PIO4 mode in FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE? atacontrol mode ad0 pio4 for example. man atacontrol, obviously, for more details. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 03:03:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F25F16A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65E6F43D53 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:03:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 33253 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2006 03:03:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Me18JfBMYPvPgp0/bJVtvCxUEljPITNUHCX/ty5J+TnEIWA5w2TDZH1h1GOyVxtxFONuQ+7PI+zpGEKh6O/moxpKSuAUMdRRMMM87BmcM3JjYXPo9yHBmhHR2R+FgzDv92uv3t+QU/lJU6sqXar9Rl5m0c0wGmrMnUHcXMAkBZA= ; Message-ID: <20060903030321.33251.qmail@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.17.32.58] by web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:03:21 PDT Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <14FE41B6-B36C-4D18-B3C0-D13FBF51660E@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Is the new version going to be easier to get working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:03:23 -0000 --- David Kelly wrote: > > > > Having 21 computers here I figured I would > finally be rid of > > MSwindows, and have a complete LAN system that was > more reliable. > > Why would you want to make things reliable? With > Windows your career > is secure knowing you will have to be kept around to > keep them > running. Microsoft cleverly backs a certification > program to make > sure its graduates never recommend anything other > than what they have > been "trained". Not-MSCE certified thought; use OS/2 Microsoft's copy was corrupted after the portsnap.... > > > Seven computers I have tried with all > three BSDs and not > > one of them > > managed to produce a working network connection. did you plug them in? if these computers are HP's (Kayaks) with a scsi controller with a ethernet port on the controller then you might be sol out of the gate. FreeBSD Rel_5 never supported them for me Rel_6 does. I know pcBSD uses rel_6 I know desktopbsd use rel_5. Although outside these obscure cases I have not found a modern PC with a card FreeBSD didn't support when I booted it up. it seems like most things I find are MII bus based. > The only thing I > > achieved > > was that now I can almost visualise every screen > from the > > installations. > > Start by forgetting about the installation screens. > They are only > there to get the most basic things running well > enough to get the > system installed on disk(s). After one is running > from the installed > image one almost never returns to sysinstall. > > ifconfig(8) is probably the most important tool, > from command line, > that you need to diagnose network configuration and > ultimately > configure the connection. ping(8) is equally useful. > > If you have a DHCP server the machine is to use then > as root where > fxp0 is my NIC: > > # dhclient fxp0 > > If that works then /etc/rc.conf needs this line: > > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" > > If your machine's address is static then this sets > 192.168.10.12 on > a /24 net: > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.10.12/24" > > If you have run sysconfig multiple times then you > likely have > conflicting replications in /etc/rc.conf (only the > last reference > applies). Manually edit and reconcile the > differences. > > > I am baffled by how anyone is able to get > a bsd networked > > system > > working. I guess I just have to stick with a > windowsOS. someone must have; you're on the internet talking to us. its too bad you can only use NetBIOS/Netbuie(gave up trying to spell that)/SMB on that there windows network. I mean who would have ever thought of coming up with a TCP/IP reference specification... > > OK, no skin off my nose. Your problem solving skills > are terrible. > When (supposedly?) looking for help you do nothing > but complain > without saying anything specific about what wasn't > working or the > hardware involved. I highly recommend Microsoft > products to people > such as yourself. MCSE comment(sort of):because microsoft is so much stabler, and network friendly, with full POSIX compliance..., an ActiveViri component integrated into their full international standards compliant Web Browser... I've generally had more trouble setting up windows networks then anything BSD/GNU. Nothing more fun then having a 5 year old NIC that is supported in everything but Windows 2000. Makes connecting to the internet to download the driver a lot of fun. *BSD can be intimidating to some because you have full control, which can be good and very bad at times. some people like to drive their pretty lamborginis that their daddies bought em. some like to tweak a frame and engine with all the simple tools they have in their garage so they can take that "poor" kids pink slip. of course some like to be told what to do, and that they must install this browser they do not use or want, a java system that violates US Patent Law, and if they tweak the install scripts to stop this; "...Windows Has detected the configuration files have been modified..." > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive > mad. some people just want an excuse to stick with windows; I'm coo-coo for coco puffs myself. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 03:03:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20DB16A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E42443D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:03:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76716 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2006 03:03:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SH4oZFx8ACITWQ5PC9NxoeqT7D2PNmjypV80g3ltwbmirCZ1y1SWC1sghzh5RrftxdSC/i9TUpAe+sX8Qo8z1nemLixeQXsDy0k+CT8+wxKdUymBcA6gHb7H3N6YWa40WclCnfQ/GZoY/M1fWbGuosbCYZXPKxdkoNJI50oPG9M= ; Message-ID: <20060903030335.76714.qmail@web83103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.17.32.58] by web83103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:03:34 PDT Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: bsd , Liste FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <2A7A706E-E19D-4E92-ADFA-29261AB532B5@todoo.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: ACPI lock in the last "halt" process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:03:37 -0000 --- bsd wrote: > Hello, > > I have configured with a 6.1 RELEASE FreeBSD. > > When I am trying to shut down the computer - I reach > the prompt - all > processes seems to halt correctly - then the server > seems to be > stucked with the ACPI process indefinitely ?? > > First of all I don't know what ACPI is related to ? > > Second how could I avoid that problem in the future > ? > > > > --- > > Here are the info related to acpi on my dmesg log : > > > acpi_alloc_wakeup_handler: can't alloc wake memory > > acpi0: on motherboard > > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port > 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 > > cpu0: on acpi0 > > acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 > > cpu1: on acpi0 > > cpu2: on acpi0 > > cpu3: on acpi0 > > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on > acpi0 > > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port > 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags > > 0x10 on acpi0 > > atkbdc0: port > 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 > > > Thanks. > > ________________________________________________ > «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ > Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD > bsd @at@ todoo.biz > ________________________________________________ > «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ > > P "Please consider your environmental responsibility > before printing > this e-mail" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > what kind of computer is this? Do you have the latest BIOS installed on the computer in question? What BIOS version are you using? Did the machine do this on other releases or is this the first FreeBSD it has seen? ACPI is the most current flashier version of APM with some PNP thrown in; in laymens terms... It configures devices, provides power management, and allows the computer to setup hardware so specific versions of windows can or cannot use certain resources on the machine. Sometimes this does cause issues with the non-windows users because devices are left unconfigured or features disabled. Sometimes this leaves the hardcore users rewriting their ACPI to include support for FreeBSD natively or fix the errors that came with the ACPI from the OEM. shutdown puts in a system call to ACPI to shutoff the computer. That is why it matters. It seems like your system should shutdown properly due to the power button fixed line above. At least it not being able to properly shutdown is a known issue with the machine. Does the computer hard lock or do you mean you get stuck at a # prompt but no powerdown? shutdown now will bring you to single user mode shutdown -p now should (only in linux does it not for me...)shutdown the machine. to avoid this problem in the future you should fill in some of these blanks. Describe what: > > When I am trying to shut down the computer - I reach > the prompt - all > processes seems to halt correctly - then the server > seems to be > stucked with the ACPI process indefinitely ?? means exactly. I know its tricky to get verbatium what is going on, but when does it die? I had a dell with this problem, had to update the bios and turn on acpi for it to work right, would only halt the machine for me (shutdown -h now [turns off pc in linux... sorry tux is a new enemy...]) also a uname -a may be a nice thing to include. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 04:03:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0114116A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 04:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FF843D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 04:03:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k8343ugC002930; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 21:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k8343tqM002929; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 21:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 21:03:55 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Jerold McAllister Message-ID: <20060903040355.GF2261@thought.org> References: <20060902033024.GA68680@thought.org> <20060902040551.GI25190@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060903011102.GB2261@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Gary Kline , Atom Powers , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: From FIXIT: (was:Re: System down, won't come up (was: Oh, no....)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:03:56 -0000 On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 10:25:01PM -0400, Jerold McAllister wrote: > Gary Kline writes: > > >On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 08:33:44AM -0700, Atom Powers wrote: > >>If it's only the data you want, try a FreeSBIE boot disk. That will > >>give you access to the file system/network, so you can recover your > >>data. > >> > > > > Where can I get this FreeSBIE boot disk? Is it a floppy or can I > > burn a CDROM? I have a "burner" on my new Ubuntu box, but have > > never burned anything but an audio CD. > > > > > > > > This is one of the myriad things I've never heard of, > > but sounds like it should be shipped with each CD boxed > > set... > > > > > > > > It is. I think all you have to do is boot the regular CD and > select live system or something like that (I don't remember the > exact label in the menu, but it should be apparent. Then you > can mount the other disk[s] and try to rescue things. > The key is "try to rescue". After fscking my filesystems I tried a reboot and ran into the fatal trap. Now I'm back i fixit mode. What I really want is to get the data files off and over to another servr. Havng /etc/* and maybe /var/db/pkg/* would be a big help. Then I could reinstall 5.3 ->5.5 and finally over to 6.1. If anybody nearby who understands the FreeSBIE boot disk can stop by in the next week or two, that'd be great. Are there ways to scp from the # Fixit environment? Or ways to recompile kernel and world frm here? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 04:33:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE29916A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 04:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0FE43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 04:33:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k834XGlD060899 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 21:33:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FA5AEE.3040100@enabled.com> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:32:46 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: crontab entries not executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:33:17 -0000 FreeBSD-5.5 I just rebuilt a new 5.5 server and I am finding root's crontab entries are not being executed. any body got some clues about how I can troubleshoot this issue so my cron entries are bring executed. Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 05:00:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B317D16A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5061E43D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:00:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k8350GpF062198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 22:00:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:59:46 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:00:17 -0000 Hi there, might somebody recommend a good way to migrate user and web files to our new server? thank you in advance, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 05:07:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED1D16A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9EB43D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:07:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GJkD4-000Jli-CY; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:07:54 -0600 In-Reply-To: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:07:49 -0600 To: Noah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:07:55 -0000 On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Noah wrote: > Hi there, > > might somebody recommend a good way to migrate user and web files > to our new server? ??? tar and scp work well for me Chad > > thank you in advance, > > Noah > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 05:10:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139CF16A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A0643D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:10:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k835A26e063575 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Sep 2006 22:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:09:31 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> In-Reply-To: <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:10:05 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Noah wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> might somebody recommend a good way to migrate user and web files to >> our new server? > > ??? > > tar and scp work well for me > okay might you recommend a good command structure? Cheers, Noah > Chad > >> >> thank you in advance, >> >> Noah >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 05:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F1016A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CB343D67 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GJkIo-000K0g-HM; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:13:50 -0600 In-Reply-To: <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:13:49 -0600 To: Noah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:13:56 -0000 On Sep 2, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Noah wrote: > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >> >> On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Noah wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> might somebody recommend a good way to migrate user and web files >>> to our new server? >> >> ??? >> >> tar and scp work well for me >> > > > okay might you recommend a good command structure? Sorry I am dense but I just tar up whatever directories (user, web, whatever) and then use scp to copy them to the new server where I use tar to undue them. I don't quite understand your question man tar man scp % tar cpf archive.tar scp over % tar xpf archive.tar > > Cheers, > > Noah --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 05:15:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220F516A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB2443D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:15:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k835FmYk063817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Sep 2006 22:15:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:15:18 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> In-Reply-To: <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:15:49 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Sep 2, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Noah wrote: > >> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Noah wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> might somebody recommend a good way to migrate user and web files >>>> to our new server? >>> >>> ??? >>> >>> tar and scp work well for me >>> >> >> >> okay might you recommend a good command structure? > > Sorry I am dense but I just tar up whatever directories (user, web, > whatever) and then use scp to copy them to the new server where I use > tar to undue them. I don't quite understand your question > > man tar > man scp > > % tar cpf archive.tar > scp over > % tar xpf archive.tar there are cooler ways of doing this. there will be people on this list that know what I am talking about. I will await their responses. things like rdiff-backup could be useful since I can prep everything and periodically move things over and then on a flag day switch the IPs. cheers, Noah > >> >> Cheers, >> >> Noah > > > > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 05:26:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD3516A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D63643D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GJkUv-000KPm-Km; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:26:21 -0600 In-Reply-To: <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:26:20 -0600 To: Noah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:26:22 -0000 On Sep 2, 2006, at 11:15 PM, Noah wrote: > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >> >> On Sep 2, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Noah wrote: >> >>> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Noah wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> >>>>> might somebody recommend a good way to migrate user and web >>>>> files to our new server? >>>> >>>> ??? >>>> >>>> tar and scp work well for me >>>> >>> >>> >>> okay might you recommend a good command structure? >> >> Sorry I am dense but I just tar up whatever directories (user, >> web, whatever) and then use scp to copy them to the new server >> where I use tar to undue them. I don't quite understand your >> question >> >> man tar >> man scp >> >> % tar cpf archive.tar >> scp over >> % tar xpf archive.tar > > > there are cooler ways of doing this. there will be people on this > list that know what I am talking about. I will await their > responses. > > things like rdiff-backup could be useful since I can prep > everything and periodically move things over and then on a flag day > switch the IPs. > Well, if you want to make it complicated etc you can. If you don't want to migrate all at once, yes, there are other ways of doing that. That was not specified. I would just stay up late one night and tar it all over and get it over with. KISS. good luck! best regards Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 05:32:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F1716A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B7B43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:32:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k835WEIw071059 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Sep 2006 22:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FA68BF.3070103@enabled.com> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:31:43 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Q , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> In-Reply-To: <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:32:15 -0000 Philip Q wrote: > Noah wrote, On 3/09/06 5.15 p: > > there are cooler ways of doing this. there will be people on this > list > > that know what I am talking about. I will await their responses. > > Does rsync meet your coolness requirements? > yeah I looking at how to use it now. thanks, Noah > -Phil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 05:41:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE08116A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mitch@mdickinson.org) Received: from mail.mdickinson.org (mdickinson.org [64.74.153.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D2843D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:41:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mitch@mdickinson.org) Received: from adsl-065-013-024-060.sip.asm.bellsouth.net ([65.13.24.60] helo=hydrogen.mdickinson.org) by mail.mdickinson.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GJkjQ-0005nV-Dn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:41:20 -0400 Received: by hydrogen.mdickinson.org with local (Exim 4.63) id 1GJkjO-000JNa-Jo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:41:18 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:41:18 -0400 From: Mitch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060903054117.GA58416@hydrogen.mdickinson.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1063.128.252.48.91.1157175031.squirrel@clarion.cec.wustl.edu> <3779.128.252.48.91.1157238417.squirrel@hilton.cec.wustl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3779.128.252.48.91.1157238417.squirrel@hilton.cec.wustl.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Sender: Mitch Subject: Re: Azureus downloads slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:41:22 -0000 On 09/02/06 18:06 PM, rlw2@cec.wustl.edu wrote: > > On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:30:31 +0200, wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> I am running a Azureus (headless w/ webui) on my FreeBSD 6.1 system > >> and it works. The problem is that, for some reason I can't discover, > >> downloads are slowwwww. It is not because of the torrent. It is my > >> setup. Every couple hours download speed drops to under 1 kbps and > >> availability drops too, so I restart Az. and download speeds are as > >> expected for another couple of hours. > > > > http://www.azureuswiki.com/ > > http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Good_settings > > http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Good_Torrents > > > > Make sure to limit the number of connections and torrents according to the > > upload speed of your internet connection. Also limit your upload speed. > > > > Andreas > > > > I know all that. I am saying that Azureus on FreeBSD runs slower than > d/ling the same torrent on a windows or even a linux (ubuntu) box when > getting the same torrent from the same network. FWIW, I had the same experience with Azureus. For me, no amount of tweaking or tuning made any difference. I'm blaming it on native jdk, only because I've seen some other strangeness with it. I havent' really tried to figure it out, so who knows... py-bittorrent works great. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 06:17:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB1F16A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from t3h1337n00b@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BB643D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from t3h1337n00b@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1012843nfc for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:17:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=PpwU80BWFXjGiwbi6hQUxc6Iajy2KVf8hfO3XwPp3BS0oVlRVT3R1J6yijol97i6g5gQdE79qEsNgjJe6JsLMfPFpd6T2odzGD7x2AUwrCVbZ/R+1ar32K+aEEHWJMgpWVPZePKba2pLmpuJ5ejWrlD3K5dcqDGUhrDTBTIQvQ8= Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr5103041nfl; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.11 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47ab2b740609022317p6a65e4a3ha80e546278b11888@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 02:17:18 -0400 From: "Andy Street" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Can't Find Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 06:17:20 -0000 Hi guys, I had installed FreeBSD in my schools computer systems lab, so I decided to install it at home as a dual boot with Solaris 10, already installed on half the HD. I downloaded the images off FreeBSD.org, burned them to CD's, and then did a post burn md5sum on them to make sure they burned properly. The install seemed to go well, other than not being able to read fvwm off the disc. When I boot, the error I'm getting after I select FreeBSD in the boot loader is that it "cant find the 'kernel'". Just before I get the error, it says "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf", so naturally that's the first place I looked after booting into single user mode with the live CD. Strangely, I found that not only was there no /boot/defaults/loader.conf, the /boot/defaults folder didn't even exist. There is, however, a /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf. Normally, I'd just edit the boot loader but 1) I want to make sure something didn't go horribly wrong with the install (I also noticed that bin and sbin in the / directory had @ signs after them, i.e. bin@, and I wasn't sure this was normal, though I haven't dealt with UNIX much), and 2) according to google and the online documentation, the only way to "edit" the boot loader is to install a new one. So, what should I do? Copy the /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf to /boot/defaults/loader.conf? Reinstall using the CD's I burned at school that I know work? Install a new boot loader and point it at /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf? Thanks in advance for the help. Andy Street From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 06:35:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57F116A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693F943D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:35:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (69-12-157-6.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [69.12.157.6]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k836ZQh2021473 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:35:26 -0700 From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:35:25 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609022335.25738.odilist@sonic.net> Subject: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 06:35:26 -0000 I have a new monitor with the following specs: Horiz 31-87 kHz Vert 56-75 Hz 1680x1050@60Hz Now, this is attached to a windows box with its digital out and a FreeBSD box with analog via a Radeon 7500 card. On this last, when I put these new settings into xorg.conf, it is not what actually shows up on the screen. It ends up being 1600x1000@75, says the monitor, more or less, which puts up a message complaining about it. It's also offset not in focus. Somehow, using the old xorg.conf file with all the wrong settings works better. There is a little distortion but not much I don't know why this would be. Limitations of the driver ("radeon")? Parts of the old xorg.conf file follow. I'd like to get this set up properly, Thanks for any help. Oliver ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Multiscan E540" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 38-70 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 48-120 EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present # Standard VGA Device: Section "Device" Identifier "Standard VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" # The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override # the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified. # Chipset "generic" # The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver # modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver # module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line # indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section. Driver "vga" # The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices # this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device # section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI # devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not # normally be included unless there is more than one video device # intalled. # BusID "PCI:0:10:0" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection # Device configured by xorgconfig: Section "Device" Identifier "Radeon 7500" Driver "radeon" #VideoRam 65536 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes # the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section # may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen" # option. Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "Radeon 7500" Monitor "Multiscan E540" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 06:48:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35DE16A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3E743D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:48:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1520880wxd for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:48:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nncuBUzlHCy3R2vwfCv47uyMy/PKpMDH5Hd4vNcNN/hv0fvaBn1CpZLGgH27soFdqF7rFG32Kx6DcK6yRE2SrDFplpqGd1YBYCQqrlyHdidm2faF0rl30wRjyoGaUYAFCHTUhrVQeDFryW+SZXjlTTq5k3bErud1U+lutUBuiTY= Received: by 10.70.76.11 with SMTP id y11mr5428121wxa; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:48:32 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Robert C Wittig" , "Keith Phipps" In-Reply-To: <44F96965.3030607@sbcglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44F95580.5030603@gmail.com> <44F96965.3030607@sbcglobal.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sparkling Brand New FreeBSD Admin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 06:48:34 -0000 On 9/2/06, Robert C Wittig wrote: > Keith Phipps wrote: > > > Right now my biggest resources have to be google and the O'Reilly > > book "Essential Sys. Admin." but I'd like to have a reference guide more > > suited to only the FreeBSD platform. Any recommendations on this as well? > > I found 'AbsoluteBSD' by Michael Lucas useful. I'll 2nd that. Also (In no particular order): http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ Unix Power Tools, 3rd. Edition. UNIX System Administration Handbook, 3rd Edition. BSD Hacks by Dru Lavigne. All of O'Reilly's Perl Books. The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System by Marshall Kirk McKusick http://www.onlamp.com/bsd/ -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 07:10:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5CD16A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from havoc.unixathome.org (havoc.unixathome.org [66.154.98.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D5443D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E220356505 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:10:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from havoc.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (havoc.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YTK8w8+k5ZEt for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C4F5A564BD; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060903071003.C4F5A564BD@havoc.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2006-08-13 - 2006-09-02 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 07:10:13 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 08:19:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4406716A509 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5428043D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:19:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k838JGVx035895; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:19:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k838JGVx035895 Message-ID: <44FA8FFE.9040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:19:10 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20060902033024.GA68680@thought.org> <20060902040551.GI25190@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060903011102.GB2261@thought.org> <20060903040355.GF2261@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20060903040355.GF2261@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5647BBAB1842AE82C7E885E9" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:19:38 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1787/Sat Sep 2 21:49:57 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jerold McAllister , Atom Powers , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: From FIXIT: (was:Re: System down, won't come up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:19:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5647BBAB1842AE82C7E885E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Kline wrote: > fixit mode. What I really want is to get the data files off > and over to another servr. Havng /etc/* and maybe /var/db/pkg/* > would be a big help. Then I could reinstall 5.3 ->5.5 and > finally over to 6.1. Why go via 5.5 if you're upgrading by installing a new system on the machine? Just go straight to 6.1. Stuff you should backup before doing that: /etc --- absolutely vital /usr/local/etc --- ditto: most people have put hours of work into port configuration files which would be painful to have to recreate. /var --- lots of programs keep their state in files in /var, not to mention stuff like MYSQL DB files. /home or /usr/home - depending on how your disk is laid out. /root Other stuff you might need to backup: /usr/local/www --- if you run web sites of this machine /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/{xdm,app-defaults,...} --- if you've customised stuff under there /boot/loader.conf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/HOSTNAME --- these two should be mostly for reference as their contents have changed significantly with changes to the system. /usr/local/share/snmp/{snmp.conf,snmpd.conf} --- only if you run net-snmpd: for some reason it keeps its config files here instead of under /usr/local/etc That covers all of the locations I know of where hand customised files can generally be found (on machines I admin, at least). Everything else should be replacable by running a 'make world' cycle or by using the port= s. No doubt other people do things differently, so will have a slightly diff= erent list... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig5647BBAB1842AE82C7E885E9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE+pAE8Mjk52CukIwRCMhJAJ96XT7WvjTchWZi8L1QJNuvdTlXkwCeMU1F MaZQsL/cvAZZN8XKbuehtVo= =HrVz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5647BBAB1842AE82C7E885E9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 08:39:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6ED16A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763F743D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:39:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k838dJkq036080; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:39:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k838dJkq036080 Message-ID: <44FA94B0.1070301@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:39:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <44FA5AEE.3040100@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <44FA5AEE.3040100@enabled.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA472FB7646100AE07C6DD999" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:39:42 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1787/Sat Sep 2 21:49:57 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: crontab entries not executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:39:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA472FB7646100AE07C6DD999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noah wrote: > I just rebuilt a new 5.5 server and I am finding root's crontab entries= > are not being executed. any body got some clues about how I can > troubleshoot this issue so my cron entries are bring executed. Verify that root's crontab does anything at all by running a simple command every minute. Eg. use 'crontab -u root -e' to add this line to the root crontab: */1 * * * * /usr/bin/touch /tmp/foo Then if you do 'ls -l /tmp/foo' you should see the timestamp changing every minute. Remember to remove this line once you're done testing. If it doesn't, check that cron is enabled and running. It is enabled by default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. Examine /var/log/cron -- everything cron tries to run should be logged there. However, I suspect that the problem is the standard gotcha when using cron. Scripts run from cron get a very minimal environment. In particular you *will* need to set the PATH explicitly at the top of your script. Something like this generally suffices: PATH=3D/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/u= sr/local/sbin export PATH Or else use fully qualified paths for any programs you call from the script. This is the primary cause of programs that work fine under test when run from your login account but that do not work when run from cron. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA472FB7646100AE07C6DD999 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE+pS38Mjk52CukIwRCNQyAJ92bJ4vXsNfN0ghqQgf1vZZidB1agCdHbgb VXHATTLVUEFAyFPK+liJrg0= =QspJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA472FB7646100AE07C6DD999-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 09:35:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0522116A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D72343D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:35:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.177]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J5000AQ4FZ6CG10@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml7so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.151]) by pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J5000BYKFZ6CI70@pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from s01060013d45e14da.vs.shawcable.net ([70.71.24.198]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J5000KUIFZ6C2F0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:35:30 -0700 From: Andriy Babiy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200609030235.30238.ABabiy@shaw.ca> Organization: home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 Subject: hp_no_device_found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:35:32 -0000 Hello, Could you advise me on how to properly configure my printing? I have LaserJet HP-1022, on FreeBSD 6.1 and CUPS-1.2. I installed hplip, hpijs, and foomatic-*. (as root) hp-setup says: ERROR no devices found In CUPS I see: hp_no_device_found dmesg shows: ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 1022, rev. 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode I can add printer on /dev/ulpt0, and choose HP-1022 from the list, and even send a test page to the printer, which isn't printed though. There might be something wrong in the configuration, I think. Could you advise me on how to get the printer working? Thank you in advance for your assistance and ideas! Andriy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 10:03:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4065816A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from sun-out.schedom-europe.net (sun.schedom-europe.net [193.109.184.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46E4D43D55 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:03:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: (qmail 16526 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 10:03:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sun.schedom-europe.net) (193.109.184.70) by sun.schedom-europe.net with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 10:03:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 16496 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 10:03:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (83.101.7.17) by sun.schedom-europe.net with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 10:03:07 -0000 From: Beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:03:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <73d604760609021339rdd2c545kd44f9a9a9341267f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <73d604760609021339rdd2c545kd44f9a9a9341267f@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: %*c?V7%A[c.}s2rI*TaRWm-[I-, ZLpBKmmC-@)J}KGbr)=a, TsXSA=:ArC(<=?utf-8?q?v=5C/=5F=25BaB=24K=0A=09=24=60E=7D6=7EyjIqu/SN=3A=24Pb=7DGngR+8=3D?= =?utf-8?q?dE=60?=)V~48zl6) =?utf-8?q?BhEtfQ2=3D=7ChScx=3Frn30d!QMd=3F=2E=60/hR!l+=0A=09x?=(]+zXesMf?'W[>46aPKMAAwd7eT{X_O9besb[u]'Y(DAe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609031203.06535.beni@brinckman.info> X-Antivirus: This mail has been scanned for viruses by schedom vof (http://www.dommel.com) Cc: Viswas Nair Subject: Re: Boot message: atapci: failed to enable memory mapping! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:03:10 -0000 On Saturday 02 September 2006 22:39, Viswas Nair wrote: >Been getting this message everytime I boot. > >atapci1: port >0x20d8-0x20df,0x20f0-0x20f3,0x20e0-0x20e7,0x20f4-0x20f7,0x20b0-0x20bf irq 19 >at device 31.2 on pci0 >atapci1: failed to enable memory mapping! > >Any ideas what this means and what can be done to fix it? > >Thanks, >Vishy Maybe this link can help you : http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=92238 Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 10:26:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987B716A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from sun-out.schedom-europe.net (sun.schedom-europe.net [193.109.184.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9A5D43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:26:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: (qmail 14612 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 10:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sun.schedom-europe.net) (193.109.184.70) by sun.schedom-europe.net with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 10:26:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 14597 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2006 10:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (83.101.7.17) by sun.schedom-europe.net with SMTP; 3 Sep 2006 10:26:14 -0000 From: Beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:26:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060903112620.3225a4b6.horn.root@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20060903112620.3225a4b6.horn.root@gmail.com> X-Face: %*c?V7%A[c.}s2rI*TaRWm-[I-, ZLpBKmmC-@)J}KGbr)=a, TsXSA=:ArC(<=?utf-8?q?v=5C/=5F=25BaB=24K=0A=09=24=60E=7D6=7EyjIqu/SN=3A=24Pb=7DGngR+8=3D?= =?utf-8?q?dE=60?=)V~48zl6) =?utf-8?q?BhEtfQ2=3D=7ChScx=3Frn30d!QMd=3F=2E=60/hR!l+=0A=09x?=(]+zXesMf?'W[>46aPKMAAwd7eT{X_O9besb[u]'Y(DAe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609031226.13982.beni@brinckman.info> X-Antivirus: This mail has been scanned for viruses by schedom vof (http://www.dommel.com) Cc: horn.root@googlemail.com Subject: Re: ADSL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:26:16 -0000 On Sunday 03 September 2006 09:26, horn.root@googlemail.com wrote: > Does FreeBSD support ADSL-modem D-Link DSL-200 ? > _______________________________________________ hi, It seems possible with the eciadsl-program : http://users.tpg.com.au/johnd/dsl200.html (i know, its for fedora, but it could work for freebsd too...). Hope this helps, Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 10:53:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5691B16A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ongrie@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD66843D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:53:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ongrie@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1551050wxd for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:53:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ljqSPnkqXYHoeuv07GxUmhvK/jwuAueWJNG//Fj0m0eTUJLUJHrWk/9ZQrIfQLPZXnN0snSj75xHOzs78GMsA/1ahdW4WkCdNWsoB9wOCn2OF4jH5CZyTN00j0HKmLmUIo/Q2PvIrYLrABZJy9sgfPKtycEWyJmDi6g1F66EBgg= Received: by 10.90.106.18 with SMTP id e18mr992402agc; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.29.6 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2069e8170609030353y41d21b0m98ca98030f56e909@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:53:37 +0200 From: "Tamas (septi) Gal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:53:39 -0000 Yesterday I upgraded my hardware from a Pentium2 400mhz setup (running freebsd 5.4) to a Sempron 2.8ghz and installed freebsd 6.1 on it (the 32bit version). There are 4 harddisks attached to the IDE-controllers: ad0: 6150MB at ata0-master UDMA66 ad1: 38166MB at ata0-slave UDMA100 ad2: 78167MB at ata1-master UDMA133 ad3: 38166MB at ata1-slave UDMA100 ad1 and ad3 are the same and both contain important data. After the installation of freebsd I noticed a lot of UDMA-errors: ad1: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63 ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63 ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63 ad3: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63 After decreasing the speed of UDMA (on ad1 and ad3) in the BIOS-Setup, ad1 worked fine, without any errors, but ad3 still produces the same error-messages and is not mountable: (14:51) root (/home/septi) %mount /dev/ad3s1 /test mount: /dev/ad3s1: Input/output error Here the dmesg output: ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=12063 ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=12063 ad3: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=84 LBA=12063 g_vfs_done():ad3s1[READ(offset=6144000, length=4096)]error = 5 ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63 ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63 ad3: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=84 LBA=63 I also replaced the IDE-cable but it changed nothing... Does anybody have an idea? -- everyone's pink on the inside - http://www.nuffinsirius.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 10:55:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CAD16A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sigma_zk@yahoo.com) Received: from web52304.mail.yahoo.com (web52304.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.48.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 758C043D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sigma_zk@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92477 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2006 10:55:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lF5rQ75lSnmk7F242idcgZLveIUnI/q9rMGIfJAD64vnRt8C+89cgmDV7qqoFWND2156jNh7OUnzOaQ+pely2q3hDodTdfGBgM0UGeMKG5DG6VhNrGLEC6Edk1m7XDdv+w98DAgm0rKV93Glwd+Ll3aeMsPun693GXiWcGGmpDI= ; Message-ID: <20060903105551.92475.qmail@web52304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.87.114.179] by web52304.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:55:51 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 03:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sean M." To: Andriy Babiy In-Reply-To: <200609030235.30238.ABabiy@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hp_no_device_found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:55:53 -0000 Follow these directions: http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php --- Andriy Babiy wrote: > Hello, > > Could you advise me on how to properly configure my printing? > I have LaserJet HP-1022, on FreeBSD 6.1 and CUPS-1.2. > I installed hplip, hpijs, and foomatic-*. > > (as root) > hp-setup says: ERROR no devices found > In CUPS I see: hp_no_device_found > > dmesg shows: > ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 1022, rev. 2.00/1.00, addr 2, > iclass 7/1 > ulpt0: using bi-directional mode > > I can add printer on /dev/ulpt0, and choose HP-1022 from the list, > and even > send a test page to the printer, which isn't printed though. > > There might be something wrong in the configuration, I think. Could > you advise > me on how to get the printer working? > Thank you in advance for your assistance and ideas! > > Andriy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 11:30:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BD516A4E0 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4000143D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2244866pye for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:30:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=VXKVWIZiH5/VTMv8uFUpr2W/UimwieAFB17jx0u9ys42zXCB5kycIPaOFuJKaxAUCLrrVJ4JAZ2wNMNk8BFWEdAoZC0h+46IWaW4GL6NIjbn7fLb/WKxgy2Mc/3A67e2i2yPQA2/nprtUYr59jY9yEt0vFxaZM0yUL/WzubhSr4= Received: by 10.64.180.4 with SMTP id c4mr1984892qbf; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 04:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609030430r2c025930k7b7f2c1eb8644a0a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:30:10 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ghostview errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:30:12 -0000 I've compiled ghostview. All ok. But when I try to execute it to view a dvi file it launches several errors. Any of you have the same problem? thanks -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 11:53:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B436216A5CE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhenin@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152AD43D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:53:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dhenin@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1041859nfc for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:53:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Tb1WSeCW0H9RWeXEeoyjAtYYsSwzfxyd52JfoldkvMJkQHtWKSpUArKNwup4yospRhKN4ZVvinsojjPD/yKMzG1yyD2etWS3Q4iJoLtZEjfuoVO+99u+GoPqHOFGeAqOh0jvFAg29eqHwaL4kVTxvToXA0XD8U9LxPPdSXvHNmU= Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr5296721nfl; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.55.3 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 04:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12437d830609030453q4d538970gc71df67848633218@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:53:13 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dh=E9nin_Jean-Jacques?=" Sender: dhenin@gmail.com To: "Jordi Carrillo" In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609030430r2c025930k7b7f2c1eb8644a0a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94ff3700609030430r2c025930k7b7f2c1eb8644a0a@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: eafc5e575aef5036 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ghostview errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:53:15 -0000 For a .dvi file use xdvi and use ghostview or gv for .ps file 2006/9/3, Jordi Carrillo : > I've compiled ghostview. All ok. But when I try to execute it to view a dvi > file it launches several errors. -- jjd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 11:53:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06C816A5B1 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ongrie@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4043D43D64 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ongrie@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1559673wxd for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:53:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=N52zl3aM3QAmFkv1YNb+itI+A938NslEJ4UKku6aGC64+f00XkXQ+tefQJ2q5xxRPf5cNH7djdyayuDuasI7KvG5RQQxyyaPVLzI+xLPIEwFWVtjpHKEnZS5W5p/NnHaG3KDJPCrNh+izqT7c505EbJ41dOghNRlyRPsu1tjXfg= Received: by 10.90.116.6 with SMTP id o6mr1003772agc; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.29.6 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 04:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2069e8170609030453y529962b1teaab37c987716aeb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:53:44 +0200 From: "Tamas (septi) Gal" To: "Jordi Carrillo" In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609030430r2c025930k7b7f2c1eb8644a0a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94ff3700609030430r2c025930k7b7f2c1eb8644a0a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ghostview errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:53:54 -0000 Could you post the errormessages? On 9/3/06, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > I've compiled ghostview. All ok. But when I try to execute it to view a dvi > file it launches several errors. > Any of you have the same problem? > thanks > > > > -- > http://jordilin.wordpress.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- everyone's pink on the inside - http://www.nuffinsirius.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 12:01:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D75916A501 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C578443D69 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:01:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so1550835wxc for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.74.1 with SMTP id w1mr5874728wxa; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i15sm5107756wxd.2006.09.03.04.59.58; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47351BC75; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFC3BC10; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k83Bxsx4089856; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:59:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) From: Gerard Seibert Organization: Seibercom.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:59:43 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <94ff3700609030430r2c025930k7b7f2c1eb8644a0a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609030430r2c025930k7b7f2c1eb8644a0a@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(=?utf-8?q?gxJxxc=0A=09RnSNPNr*/=5E=7EStawWU9KDJ-CT0k=24f=23?=@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2694900.Wh7MnjSeV8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609030759.53326.gerard@seibercom.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Jordi Carrillo Subject: Re: Ghostview errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:01:35 -0000 --nextPart2694900.Wh7MnjSeV8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 03 September 2006 07:30, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > I've compiled ghostview. All ok. But when I try to execute it to view a d= vi > file it launches several errors. > Any of you have the same problem? > thanks Kind of hard to say since you failed to list any errors. Try prefixing your= =20 command line with this: script -ak ~/gv.log "place command line here - no quotation marks" Now you can submit that file here for our perusal. =2D-=20 Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net You are so boring that when I see you my feet go to sleep. --nextPart2694900.Wh7MnjSeV8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE+sO4s3R1WQUU6lgRAuLkAKCElrToxhdHK8IoRZ2dH0/lAEfB7ACgmo+8 cUy0ipEwZgYHrccdsBKlqko= =8lEX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2694900.Wh7MnjSeV8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 12:30:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77B116A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D5443D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2272294pye for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KxVYkhE2rF4QJBeoezSdsvCruYWG+KNGVbtgqKlAYCZWX/GNFWMnplXOFM8t7yLpvG1YlBExm2kXt79iLpsH2qwPzRI2TwmeA4gLRsp9OpL5dixoPUw5HhMx4dyjVgVsQzHsSBto0tWuDIsvw4IsDneaH4Yf4v3JMswUmUReiiA= Received: by 10.65.239.13 with SMTP id q13mr2010933qbr; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609030530j2a4c20e0tcf364c506d7f951f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:30:10 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200609030759.53326.gerard@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94ff3700609030430r2c025930k7b7f2c1eb8644a0a@mail.gmail.com> <200609030759.53326.gerard@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Ghostview errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:30:12 -0000 I haven't post the error because the message is quite big. But no problem I use xdvi now. Thanks anyway. Jordi 2006/9/3, Gerard Seibert : > > On Sunday 03 September 2006 07:30, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > > I've compiled ghostview. All ok. But when I try to execute it to view a > dvi > > file it launches several errors. > > Any of you have the same problem? > > thanks > > Kind of hard to say since you failed to list any errors. Try prefixing > your > command line with this: > > script -ak ~/gv.log "place command line here - no quotation marks" > > Now you can submit that file here for our perusal. > > -- > Gerard Seibert > gerard@seibercom.net > > You are so boring that when I see you my feet go to sleep. > > > -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 12:39:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E1A16A506 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5379D43D6A for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:39:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2276975pye for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:39:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GAxd0QxUMGbp5jmz/s+w0Olent5PvD7TJ1+PRLqB3myZUIgI8fNptEY99auDoK/qtmMv2+Lqd24gc4mbBtJHzTziRnRr7z2nQuKlURUzqk6RXzmSeY3wA0IjODzgU4JJwZ6RHze08VH2TrW7b/C7LXfgUX4l9IQsbo/ecuB1+40= Received: by 10.65.59.19 with SMTP id m19mr4395537qbk; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609030539n5ee37003qe667186f69cc6720@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:39:52 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: File Flags in directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:39:56 -0000 In the FreeBSD handbook when it talks about the file flags permissions it says: "These flags add an additional level of security and control over files, but not directories." Well, I am able to put file flags in directories as well. If I do: mkdir curric chflags uchange curric It works well and then I can't modify the contents of the directory. So it works flawlessly. Anybody knows that everything in Unix is a file, so flags can be applied to anything. So, the handbook is wrong in this aspect, isn't it? -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 13:29:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FC516A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5925643D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:29:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Sep 2006 13:29:38 -0000 Received: from pD952F843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.248.67] by mail.gmx.net (mp044) with SMTP; 03 Sep 2006 15:29:38 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:29:35 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: rlw2@cec.wustl.edu Message-Id: <20060903152935.b6266af4.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <3779.128.252.48.91.1157238417.squirrel@hilton.cec.wustl.edu> References: <1063.128.252.48.91.1157175031.squirrel@clarion.cec.wustl.edu> <3779.128.252.48.91.1157238417.squirrel@hilton.cec.wustl.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__3_Sep_2006_15_29_35_+0200_aG21MeDe7peYYrzo" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Azureus downloads slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:29:40 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__3_Sep_2006_15_29_35_+0200_aG21MeDe7peYYrzo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:06:57 -0500 (CDT) rlw2@cec.wustl.edu wrote: > I know all that. I am saying that Azureus on FreeBSD runs slower than > d/ling the same torrent on a windows or even a linux (ubuntu) box when > getting the same torrent from the same network. You did not mention that before. Anyway, make sure to run Azureus on Java 1.4.2. Neither 1.5.0 from ports nor Diablo from the FreeBSD Foundation seem to work well with it. At least for me. Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Sun__3_Sep_2006_15_29_35_+0200_aG21MeDe7peYYrzo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE+tjB8P3NNypXNWURAn5MAJ422pEqnetaEbyjiYDXMh0BMakDRQCfevEI vbRvJSn1WMlxobc9A/NVGY4= =2Oc5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__3_Sep_2006_15_29_35_+0200_aG21MeDe7peYYrzo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 14:07:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D9016A503 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0186B43DE1 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:05:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GJsar-0002Gh-SB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:05:01 +0200 Received: from 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz ([202.89.159.152]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:05:01 +0200 Received: from p.lists by 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:05:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Philip Q Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:29:55 +1200 Lines: 7 Message-ID: <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.5) Gecko/20060719 Thunderbird/1.5.0.5 Mnenhy/0.7.4.0 In-Reply-To: <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> X-Archive: encrypt Sender: news Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:07:30 -0000 Noah wrote, On 3/09/06 5.15 p: > there are cooler ways of doing this. there will be people on this list > that know what I am talking about. I will await their responses. Does rsync meet your coolness requirements? -Phil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 14:34:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F9116A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5EB43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:34:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37F19D85B for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF02C1083BC5 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GJt2t-0005om-00 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:33:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:33:59 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20060903143359.GA22029@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 10:19:52 up 139 days, 11:25, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.03, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Problesm with X application default X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:34:00 -0000 I'm building a replacement machine for a long serving workstation that finally died a hardware death. I've built a new machine updated to 6 CURRENT, and installed the KDE metaport. I have a customize XTerm application defaults file from a backup of the old machine. However, I can't seem to get xterm to honor it. I'm running xterm from teh menu bar in KDE with alauncher, and the -ls command line option. I use ksh, and I have my .profile set up to set the following environment variable: PPLRESDIR=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/:/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults:/home/stan/.X11/app-defaults In /home/stan/.x11/app-defaults I have a file name XTerm that looks like this: XTerm*scrollBar: True XTerm*saveLines: 2048 XTerm*ttyModes: erase ^H intr ^C quit ^\ kill ^U start ^Q stop ^S swtch ^@ susp ^Z XTerm*SimpleMenu*BackingStore: NotUseful XTerm*SimpleMenu*menuLabel.font: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso*-* XTerm*SimpleMenu*menuLabel.vertSpace: 100 XTerm*SimpleMenu*HorizontalMargins: 16 XTerm*SimpleMenu*Sme.height: 16 XTerm*SimpleMenu*Cursor: left_ptr XTerm*SimpleMenu.background: gray75 XTerm*SimpleMenu.foreground: Black XTerm*mainMenu.Label: Main Options XTerm*mainMenu*Foreground: Black XTerm*mainMenu*Background: gray75 XTerm*mainMenu*securekbd*Label: Secure Keyboard XTerm*mainMenu*allowsends*Label: Allow SendEvents XTerm*mainMenu*logging*Label: Log to File XTerm*mainMenu*redraw*Label: Redraw Window XTerm*mainMenu*suspend*Label: Send STOP Signal XTerm*mainMenu*continue*Label: Send CONT Signal XTerm*mainMenu*interrupt*Label: Send INT Signal XTerm*mainMenu*hangup*Label: Send HUP Signal XTerm*mainMenu*terminate*Label: Send TERM Signal XTerm*mainMenu*kill*Label: Send KILL Signal XTerm*mainMenu*quit*Label: Quit XTerm*vtMenu.Label: VT Options XTerm*vtMenu*Foreground: Black XTerm*vtMenu*Background: gray75 XTerm*vtMenu*scrollbar*Label: Enable Scrollbar XTerm*vtMenu*jumpscroll*Label: Enable Jump Scroll XTerm*vtMenu*reversevideo*Label: Enable Reverse Video XTerm*vtMenu*autowrap*Label: Enable Auto Wraparound XTerm*vtMenu*reversewrap*Label: Enable Reverse Wraparound XTerm*vtMenu*autolinefeed*Label: Enable Auto Linefeed XTerm*vtMenu*appcursor*Label: Enable Application Cursor Keys XTerm*vtMenu*appkeypad*Label: Enable Application Keypad XTerm*vtMenu*scrollkey*Label: Scroll to Bottom on Key Press XTerm*vtMenu*scrollttyoutput*Label: Scroll to Bottom on Tty Output XTerm*vtMenu*allow132*Label: Allow 80/132 Column Switching XTerm*vtMenu*cursesemul*Label: Enable Curses Emulation XTerm*vtMenu*visualbell*Label: Enable Visual Bell XTerm*vtMenu*marginbell*Label: Enable Margin Bell XTerm*vtMenu*altscreen*Label: Show Alternate Screen XTerm*vtMenu*softreset*Label: Do Soft Reset XTerm*vtMenu*hardreset*Label: Do Full Reset XTerm*vtMenu*tekshow*Label: Show Tek Window XTerm*vtMenu*tekmode*Label: Switch to Tek Mode XTerm*vtMenu*vthide*Label: Hide VT Window XTerm*fontMenu.Label: VT Fonts XTerm*fontMenu*Foreground: Black XTerm*fontMenu*Background: gray75 XTerm*fontMenu*fontdefault*Label: Default XTerm*fontMenu*font1*Label: Tiny XTerm*VT100*font1: nil2 XTerm*fontMenu*font2*Label: Small XTerm*VT100*font2: 6x10 XTerm*fontMenu*font3*Label: Medium XTerm*VT100*font3: 8x13 XTerm*fontMenu*font4*Label: Large XTerm*VT100*font4: 9x15 XTerm*fontMenu*fontescape*Label: Escape Sequence XTerm*fontMenu*fontsel*Label: Selection !fontescape and fontsel overridden by application XTerm*tekMenu.Label: Tek Options XTerm*tekMenu*tektextlarge*Label: Large Characters XTerm*tekMenu*tektext2*Label: #2 Size Characters XTerm*tekMenu*tektext3*Label: #3 Size Characters XTerm*tekMenu*tektextsmall*Label: Small Characters XTerm*tekMenu*tekpage*Label: PAGE XTerm*tekMenu*tekreset*Label: RESET XTerm*tekMenu*tekcopy*Label: COPY XTerm*tekMenu*vtshow*Label: Show VT Window XTerm*tekMenu*vtmode*Label: Switch to VT Mode XTerm*tekMenu*tekhide*Label: Hide Tek Window XTerm*tek4014*fontLarge: 9x15 XTerm*tek4014*font2: 8x13 XTerm*tek4014*font3: 6x13 XTerm*tek4014*fontSmall: 6x10 XTerm*VT100.Translations: #override Meta: insert-seven-bit() XTerm*background: Black XTerm*foreground: Yellow XTerm*cursorColor: White XTerm*pointerColor: Navy But despite that the Xterm comes up in white with black text. So, I put the same file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults, but it still does not honor it Can anyone sugest what I am doing wrong? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 14:45:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F2116A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98A7443D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:45:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Sep 2006 14:45:19 -0000 Received: from pD952F843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.248.67] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 03 Sep 2006 16:45:19 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:45:15 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: "Wei Hu" Message-Id: <20060903164515.751ad29b.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: <1063.128.252.48.91.1157175031.squirrel@clarion.cec.wustl.edu> <3779.128.252.48.91.1157238417.squirrel@hilton.cec.wustl.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__3_Sep_2006_16_45_15_+0200_i/aQc_FFhezWayi." X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Azureus downloads slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:45:21 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__3_Sep_2006_16_45_15_+0200_i/aQc_FFhezWayi. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:48:19 +1000 "Wei Hu" wrote: > Give utorrent a try. Azureus is slow and takes too much resources. utorrent is Windows-only. Do not come with the excuse to run it with Wine. = And Azureus is far from being slow. It might use a few more resources than = other clients, but I have no problem running it on FreeBSD 6.1 downloading = torrents at almost full speed of my internet connection. Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Sun__3_Sep_2006_16_45_15_+0200_i/aQc_FFhezWayi. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE+up+8P3NNypXNWURAq8IAJ9QW/FMeQXYBcc4ar+5RylzjmYAKQCfWH1z jaFu0qYdLUND3vVEDJTjgFo= =tbRQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__3_Sep_2006_16_45_15_+0200_i/aQc_FFhezWayi.-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 15:22:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2BA16A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rlw2@cec.wustl.edu) Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu (express.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FA043D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:22:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlw2@cec.wustl.edu) Received: from hilton.cec.wustl.edu (hilton.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.4]) by express.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id k83FMlrE025965; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:22:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 48rts91.wuh.wustl.edu ([128.252.48.91]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user rlw2) by hilton.cec.wustl.edu with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:22:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <52041.128.252.48.91.1157296967.squirrel@hilton.cec.wustl.edu> In-Reply-To: <20060903152935.b6266af4.cyb.@gmx.net> References: <1063.128.252.48.91.1157175031.squirrel@clarion.cec.wustl.edu> <3779.128.252.48.91.1157238417.squirrel@hilton.cec.wustl.edu> <20060903152935.b6266af4.cyb.@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:22:47 -0500 (CDT) From: rlw2@cec.wustl.edu To: "Andreas Rudisch" <"cyb."@gmx.net> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net>, rlw2@cec.wustl.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Azureus downloads slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:22:49 -0000 > On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:06:57 -0500 (CDT) > rlw2@cec.wustl.edu wrote: > >> I know all that. I am saying that Azureus on FreeBSD runs slower than >> d/ling the same torrent on a windows or even a linux (ubuntu) box when >> getting the same torrent from the same network. > > You did not mention that before. Anyway, make sure to run Azureus on > Java 1.4.2. Neither 1.5.0 from ports nor Diablo from the FreeBSD > Foundation seem to work well with it. > > At least for me. > > Andreas > > -- > GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 > Yeah...sorry i left out that crucial info. Well, i AM running on 1.5 so i'll try running on 1.4 and i'll get back to you as soon as i find out. thx a lot for info, ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 08:01:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B4116A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fysical@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D7F43D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:01:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fysical@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2149599pye for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:01:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=A3D9CWW8BSd53R3bG/L/xbMyMFmgZLPY9/s+9p9WIS/QBCJ3TWmmPTniMyBF1zdQq4XD+PvqjlKIXRfK+nMdnhvvyv69OiDOvheiYkcPCAmrBsiKzyW4prKdN54V2B57AyydryMdIWQa1/8LmbDYX9SGQeQzmeEAs17M/W+tZ6E= Received: by 10.64.7.20 with SMTP id 20mr1913117qbg; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.124.13 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 01:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <73d604760609030101k703f750fy448054384e5a2aff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:31:25 +0530 From: "Viswas Nair" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_55831_27636640.1157270485739" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:43:52 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: TkGUI error in adesklets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:01:28 -0000 ------=_Part_55831_27636640.1157270485739 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I am having trouble with adesklets and would really appreciate it if you could tell me whats happening. The make failed and I noticed that the port is marked asbroken and I it is being worked on. However when I tried to do a pkg_add it completed the registration with some warnings that indicated that I had newer versions of imlib2 and giff than expected. Could this be a problem? In addition, I tried to run adesklets -i and was returned with this message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/adesklets_installer", line 631, in ? if globals()['%sGUI' % ui](): break KeyError: 'TkGUI' I am including the truss output of the adesklets -i command as attachment. 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ESMTP id 1F1FF16A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21A343D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:59:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k83FxTSu068320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:58:58 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> In-Reply-To: <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:59:32 -0000 Philip Q wrote: > Noah wrote, On 3/09/06 5.15 p: > > there are cooler ways of doing this. there will be people on this > list > > that know what I am talking about. I will await their responses. > > Does rsync meet your coolness requirements? > this command also meets my coolness requirements. oldsys # tar -C /var/www -cf - . | ssh newsys tar -C /var/www -xvf - cheers, Noah > -Phil > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 16:01:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DFC16A669 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ABF43D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:01:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (69-12-157-6.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [69.12.157.6]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k83G1eN0009914 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:01:41 -0700 From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:01:40 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609030901.40330.odilist@sonic.net> Subject: Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:01:41 -0000 As usual, as soon as I post, I discover the correct search string to get me to the answer: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions%40freebsd.org/msg147148.html This poster even bought the same monitor I did. Does anyone know: Will newer nvidia cards generally work at this resolution? It seems safest just to get the one he did. Thanks, Oliver > I have a new monitor with the following specs: > Horiz 31-87 kHz > Vert 56-75 Hz > 1680x1050@60Hz > > Now, this is attached to a windows box with its digital out and a FreeBSD > box with analog via a Radeon 7500 card. On this last, when I put these new > settings into xorg.conf, it is not what actually shows up on the screen. It > ends up being 1600x1000@75, says the monitor, more or less, which puts up a > message complaining about it. It's also offset not in focus. > > Somehow, using the old xorg.conf file with all the wrong settings works > better. There is a little distortion but not much I don't know why this > would be. Limitations of the driver ("radeon")? > > Parts of the old xorg.conf file follow. I'd like to get this set up > properly, Thanks for any help. > > Oliver > > ********************************************************************** > # Monitor section > # ********************************************************************** > > # Any number of monitor sections may be present > > Section "Monitor" > > Identifier "Multiscan E540" > > # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. > # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a > # comma separated list of ranges of values. > # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S > # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. > > HorizSync 38-70 > > # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync > # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies > # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies > > # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. > # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a > # comma separated list of ranges of values. > # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S > # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. > > VertRefresh 48-120 > > EndSection > > > # ********************************************************************** > # Graphics device section > # ********************************************************************** > > # Any number of graphics device sections may be present > > # Standard VGA Device: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Standard VGA" > VendorName "Unknown" > BoardName "Unknown" > > # The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override > # the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified. > > # Chipset "generic" > > # The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver > # modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver > # module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line > # indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section. > > Driver "vga" > # The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices > # this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device > # section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI > # devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not > # normally be included unless there is more than one video device > # intalled. > > # BusID "PCI:0:10:0" > > # VideoRam 256 > > # Clocks 25.2 28.3 > > EndSection > > # Device configured by xorgconfig: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Radeon 7500" > Driver "radeon" > #VideoRam 65536 > # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate > EndSection > > > # ********************************************************************** > # Screen sections > # ********************************************************************** > > # Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes > # the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section > # may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen" > # option. > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen 1" > Device "Radeon 7500" > Monitor "Multiscan E540" > DefaultDepth 24 > > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 16:13:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7081216A4E1 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC6243D55 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1068483nfc for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Zetox3asSZNvODn5Wak4Dvz/IEkEW/NmlxkpXLDNE5QgLX6LgOmhih9ut558SE9+hZ6O8ctOPMWNZ/ZUVtS5zMl62CEzkDmZiPb1ia7NtiZKxV1EEudij/uU/52Fm5MAn12ps4aN7FD6AnCcMS7sXSk1wnhSqJuYN6nH1PYFyPY= Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr5605410nfl; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.14 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:12:55 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "Oliver Iberien" In-Reply-To: <200609030901.40330.odilist@sonic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200609030901.40330.odilist@sonic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:13:04 -0000 On 9/3/06, Oliver Iberien wrote: > As usual, as soon as I post, I discover the correct search string to get me to > the answer: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions%40freebsd.org/msg147148.html > > This poster even bought the same monitor I did. Does anyone know: Will newer > nvidia cards generally work at this resolution? It seems safest just to get > the one he did. > > > > I have a new monitor with the following specs: > > Horiz 31-87 kHz > > Vert 56-75 Hz > > 1680x1050@60Hz > > I don't know of any reason a less-that-eight-year-old Radeon card couldn't support that resolution. I think you only need <64MB video memory to support that resolution at 32bit color. Some monitors need extra settings in the config line though. I have recently tested 1680x1050,32bit color with Nvidia 6600, 6800, 7900 cards. (On MS Win, linux though. ) -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 16:58:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF6616A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C317C43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:58:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k83GwVc8018796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:58:31 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k83GwUZ2008703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:58:30 -0700 Message-ID: <44FB09B6.9030906@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:58:30 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060902033024.GA68680@thought.org> <20060902040551.GI25190@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060903011102.GB2261@thought.org> <20060903040355.GF2261@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20060903040355.GF2261@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.9.3.93943 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: From FIXIT: (was:Re: System down, won't come up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:58:32 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 10:25:01PM -0400, Jerold McAllister wrote: > >> Gary Kline writes: >> >> >>> On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 08:33:44AM -0700, Atom Powers wrote: >>> >>>> If it's only the data you want, try a FreeSBIE boot disk. That will >>>> give you access to the file system/network, so you can recover your >>>> data. >>>> >>>> >>> Where can I get this FreeSBIE boot disk? Is it a floppy or can I >>> burn a CDROM? I have a "burner" on my new Ubuntu box, but have >>> never burned anything but an audio CD. >>> >>> >>> >>> This is one of the myriad things I've never heard of, >>> but sounds like it should be shipped with each CD boxed >>> set... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> It is. I think all you have to do is boot the regular CD and >> select live system or something like that (I don't remember the >> exact label in the menu, but it should be apparent. Then you >> can mount the other disk[s] and try to rescue things. >> >> > The key is "try to rescue". After fscking my filesystems > I tried a reboot and ran into the fatal trap. Now I'm back i > fixit mode. What I really want is to get the data files off > and over to another servr. Havng /etc/* and maybe /var/db/pkg/* > would be a big help. Then I could reinstall 5.3 ->5.5 and > finally over to 6.1. > > If anybody nearby who understands the FreeSBIE boot disk can > stop by in the next week or two, that'd be great. Are there > ways to scp from the # Fixit environment? Or ways to recompile > kernel and world frm here? Try chrooting in the FreeBSIE environment on the mounted device, e.g.: mkdir /mnt/fbsd_root mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt/fbsd_root #mount other filesystems here--make sure that the path is relative to /mnt/fbsd_root and follows the same sort of rules as specified in /mnt/fbsd_root/etc/fstab! chroot /mnt/fbsd_root /bin/tcsh # insert your shell of choice available here. You need to make sure that all devices are mounted properly ('/', '/usr/', '/var', etc), and the /dev filesystems are mounted in the chroot environment before continuing. This is basically what users do when installing Gentoo Linux, and I don't think that you should have an issue with it when trying to upgrade and fix your FreeBSD system because the principle is the same. Not sure how to do the devfs filesystems, but I'm sure someone has an idea of how it's done; IIRC it was done by the kernel somehow. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 17:01:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1423016A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B6043D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:01:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msherman77@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1616830wxd for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:01:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HEPfT/vRmUfG4P81GNSssHAOqq1O6mrfjIaSF5yvH37H9pMdkQyyzeflLL9ch1+v/h4DU2TtmGy6q2S0dHiPHZbN1eOGqqNKW6WXpB/nE5v/IBK1cEwQpsOS0MVC2XyVU4vNhz/Xt1v9RBHx20K7wTSqq5zFZcbbt4XodDScnpU= Received: by 10.70.38.19 with SMTP id l19mr3979313wxl; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.108.17 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:01:28 -0400 From: "Michael S" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:01:30 -0000 Good day all. I have a question about calendar.usholidays. In the man page for calendar it says that this file must be updated every year. Is it enough just to cvsup, buildworld and installworld? I am following RELENG_6_1. Thanks in advance. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 17:24:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FE916A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bug2bug@bug2bug.tk) Received: from ns.vega-int.ru (ns.vega-int.ru [62.148.228.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAE343D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:24:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bug2bug@bug2bug.tk) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ns.vega-int.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC01100048 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:24:06 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from ns.vega-int.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23976-05 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:24:03 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from [172.17.12.179] (unknown [172.17.12.179]) by ns.vega-int.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D5B100043 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:24:03 +0600 (YEKST) From: =?koi8-r?b?88XSx8XKIPPPwsvP?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:26:04 +0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609032326.05071.bug2bug@bug2bug.tk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at vega-int.ru Subject: A question about programming RS-232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:24:09 -0000 Hello. I have a question I can't deal myself. And nobody can help me in resolving my problem. Problem: I have a hand-made device, I want to control from FreeBSD 6.1 (I am porting this application from Windows equivalent). But I don't know, in what device /dev/ I should write to get reults. I tryed to write bytes into /dev/ttyd0, /dev/cuad0, but got nothing. :( Code: #include #include #include #include int main(void) { int t = 0, num = 10, fd, i, iOut; char *ch; struct termios my_termios; ch = (char *)malloc(6); memset(ch, 250, 6); fd = open("/dev/ttyd0", O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK); printf("Opened com port\n"); if(fd < 0) return 0; // tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH); my_termios.c_cflag = CS8 | CLOCAL; if(cfsetspeed(&my_termios, B9600) < 0) return 0; if(tcsetattr(fd, TCSANOW, &my_termios) < 0) return 0; iOut = write(fd, ch, 6); if(iOut < 0) return 0; printf("Number of bytes = %d\n", iOut); printf("Writed %s!\n", ch); close(fd); printf("Closed!\n"); return 0; } P.S. Please, help me. P.P.S. Sorry for such stupid and annoying questions P.P.P.S. Sorry for my bad English as I'm from Russia and I'm only 16 ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 17:35:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D048616A5A0 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5295E43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:35:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9921158823; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5A11083BC5; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GJvsK-0007JP-00; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:35:16 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:35:16 -0400 From: stan To: ?????? ????? Message-ID: <20060903173516.GA27923@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: ?????? ????? , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200609032326.05071.bug2bug@bug2bug.tk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609032326.05071.bug2bug@bug2bug.tk> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 13:29:38 up 139 days, 14:34, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.02 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question about programming RS-232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:35:21 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 11:26:04PM +0600, ?????? ????? wrote: > Hello. > I have a question I can't deal myself. > And nobody can help me in resolving my problem. > > Problem: > I have a hand-made device, I want to control from FreeBSD 6.1 > (I am porting this application from Windows equivalent). > But I don't know, in what device /dev/ I should write to get reults. > I tryed to write bytes into /dev/ttyd0, /dev/cuad0, but got nothing. :( > Start off by using minicom (or cu) to talk to the device. By doing this you can sort through baud rate/parity,hardware issues. Once you have that working, then move on to code. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 17:37:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE5416A4E8 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (gw-ipinc.museum.rain.com [65.75.192.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B05943D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:37:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k83HbTUR031219 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k83HbTVM031218 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:37:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:37:29 -0700 From: James Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060903173729.GA30869@ns.museum.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (ns.museum.rain.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: man page bug in mv(1) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:37:33 -0000 The man page mv(1) states: "It is an error for either the source operand or the destination path to specify a directory unless both do." However: mv file /tmp/ works. Am I reading things wrong, or is the man page incorrect? Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 17:43:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBAD16A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1208C43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin04-en2 [10.13.10.149]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k83HhMlB026359 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (cpe-065-191-021-225.nc.res.rr.com [65.191.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k83HhKS6017685 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <352397EE-89F9-4CC6-BE5C-36EA02BE6E1F@mac.com> From: g Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:43:19 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how do you get gnustep to run? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:43:23 -0000 using the direction in chapter 5 didn't help. i followed the instructions and now x window system does not start. i'm going to reload the os and follow the directions again. the xorg.conf.new file requires information i may not have and cannot find, the vertical and horizontal frequencies. if i can't find the frequencies, are there default values that i can use to create that file. www.windowmaker.info site seems to be down thanks, g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 17:57:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D3816A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474F943D66 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:56:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k83HutmF006931; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k83HusN7006930; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:56:54 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20060903175654.GB6793@thought.org> References: <20060902033024.GA68680@thought.org> <20060902040551.GI25190@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060903011102.GB2261@thought.org> <20060903040355.GF2261@thought.org> <44FA8FFE.9040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44FA8FFE.9040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Gary Kline , Jerold McAllister , Atom Powers , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: From FIXIT: (was:Re: System down, won't come up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:57:11 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 09:19:10AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > fixit mode. What I really want is to get the data files off > > and over to another servr. Havng /etc/* and maybe /var/db/pkg/* > > would be a big help. Then I could reinstall 5.3 ->5.5 and > > finally over to 6.1. > > Why go via 5.5 if you're upgrading by installing a new system on the > machine? Just go straight to 6.1. Good point. > > Stuff you should backup before doing that: > > /etc --- absolutely vital Yep; and I do have a Tao.tbz; but it is sitting right in /usr/tmp, on tao. (....) > /usr/local/etc --- ditto: most people have put hours of work into > port configuration files which would be painful > to have to recreate. > /var --- lots of programs keep their state in files in > /var, not to mention stuff like MYSQL DB files. > /home or /usr/home - depending on how your disk is laid out. > /root > > Other stuff you might need to backup: > > /usr/local/www --- if you run web sites of this machine > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/{xdm,app-defaults,...} > --- if you've customised stuff under there > > /boot/loader.conf > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/HOSTNAME > --- these two should be mostly for reference as > their contents have changed significantly with > changes to the system. > /usr/local/share/snmp/{snmp.conf,snmpd.conf} > --- only if you run net-snmpd: for some reason it > keeps its config files here instead of under > /usr/local/etc > > That covers all of the locations I know of where hand customised files > can generally be found (on machines I admin, at least). Everything else > should be replacable by running a 'make world' cycle or by using the ports. > No doubt other people do things differently, so will have a slightly different > list... > Every night I tar -y my website files up and sent them remote. --Whenever-I-remember, I tar up the /etc directories and ship them to local servers. (I *really* do gotta get a plan. Never expect 5.4 to [ct]rap out! What a wakeup call....) Oh: /boot/loader.conf is something to consider too. Thanks much. gary > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 18:08:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4519B16A4E8 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368D143D7F for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:08:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GJwO3-0007vP-Ps for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:08:04 +0200 Received: from 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz ([202.89.159.152]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:08:03 +0200 Received: from p.lists by 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:08:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Philip Q Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:07:49 +1200 Lines: 8 Message-ID: <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.5) Gecko/20060719 Thunderbird/1.5.0.5 Mnenhy/0.7.4.0 In-Reply-To: <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> X-Archive: encrypt Sender: news Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:08:41 -0000 Noah wrote, On 4/09/06 3.58 a: > this command also meets my coolness requirements. > > oldsys # tar -C /var/www -cf - . | ssh newsys tar -C /var/www -xvf - Which is almost /exactly/ what Chad recommended to you... -Phil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 18:12:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC58A16A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6960143D8A for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:11:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k83IBtQn073872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:11:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FB1ACC.6040404@enabled.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:11:24 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Q , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> In-Reply-To: <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:12:12 -0000 Philip Q wrote: > Noah wrote, On 4/09/06 3.58 a: >> this command also meets my coolness requirements. >> oldsys # tar -C /var/www -cf - . | ssh newsys tar -C /var/www -xvf - > > Which is almost /exactly/ what Chad recommended to you... kinda. this is the syntax I was looking for. Cheers, Noah > > -Phil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 18:37:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C789D16A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matteo.pillon@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E35D43D53 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matteo.pillon@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so664104nzn for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:37:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=ZdUzR+5LSFWA/NZxCEr5gNVZgeOkGHAXcCxbe5L908DNOq+3kJ2ZA7eFvRzbmQv3xibh0Gbro5RuT8SriSmtitZeYUPXawASRxLRyXYrLgl8+Nk54EOS+cqzf8TVsUKe7RwT+KaKU3HfOf5EN7BAQJBrJ+ygcyFYerAGXPfctBk= Received: by 10.64.193.9 with SMTP id q9mr2254445qbf; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.octopus ( [80.104.86.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e14sm3137506qbe.2006.09.03.11.37.34; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by neptune.octopus (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A3AD8C04D; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:39:16 +0200 From: Matteo Pillon To: Andrew Falanga Message-ID: <20060903183915.GA24744@neptune.octopus> References: <340a29540609021051n50bc066bj63f192f9890f8e5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <340a29540609021051n50bc066bj63f192f9890f8e5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Having trouble getting ppp configured on my 6.1 box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:37:42 -0000 Hi Andrew. On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 11:51:40AM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote: > ppp works and all, but I can't resolve any DNS hostnames. Everytime I try, > I get something like "no address associated to the name." Or something > similar. Sorry, I'm writing this mail from the Windows OS (one computer > shares the two OS's) and I don't recall the error exactly but that's > basically it. First, verify you're really connected to internet, looking at ifconfig if tun0 has an ip. Then look at the output of netstat -rn if there's a default route, then try to ping a numeric address, like ping 151.1.1.1. This will help you diagnose the problem. ;-) Bye. -- * Pillon Matteo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 18:46:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7986A16A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhavenn@rhavenn.net) Received: from smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243FD43D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:46:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rhavenn@rhavenn.net) Received: from arucard.int.ecreativeworks.com (unknown [66.173.15.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: henrik@ecwwebworks.com) by relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3CA5A44C11A for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:46:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Henrik Hudson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:46:04 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609031346.05261.rhavenn@rhavenn.net> Subject: samba problem; member server can't authenticate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rhavenn@rhavenn.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:46:07 -0000 Hey List- I tried the Samba lists...but didn't get any tips there..so possibly a freebsd issue? Dunno, anyways.... I have a Samba PDC and a Samba Member Server. The Samba PDC works fine, but the problem is that the Member Server can't authenticate users and let me browse file shares and i always get the error: NT_STATUS_NO_LOGON_SERVERS the wierd thing is that sometimes: SMBCLIENT -L ECWTEST will work and list my shares. However, the first time I actually try to authenticate a user to browse a share the whole shebang stops and I get the above error. I'm using Konqueror and smb://ecwtest/sharename to connect. I don't need to make any PAM changes to allow just file / share authentication do I? One thing, the member server is a new rebuild of a machine with the same name and the PDC is a upgrade using the TDBs, etc.. from backup. I did remove the machine account from the PDC and then re-added it using net join and that worked fine. I ran through the test at the back of the "offical book" and all of them work except the actual sharing and the nmblookup -d 2 '*' on the member server and of course the smbclient specific ones. wbinfo -u and wbinfo -g work on the member server and i can chown files to users only in the PDC in the samba users file. I just can't authenticate. the only error I'm seeing is in log.wb-ECW and its: [2006/09/03 12:54:12, 1] rpc_client/cli_pipe.c:cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu(625) cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code DCERPC_FAULT_OP_RNG_ERROR received from remote machine ECWSERVER pipe \lsarpc fnum 0x70a8! [2006/09/03 13:17:04, 1] rpc_client/cli_pipe.c:cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu(625) cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code DCERPC_FAULT_OP_RNG_ERROR received from remote machine ECWSERVER pipe \NETLOGON fnum 0x7549! [2006/09/03 13:38:05, 0] nsswitch/winbindd_dual.c:child_read_request(49) Got invalid request length: 0 [2006/09/03 13:38:12, 1] rpc_client/cli_pipe.c:cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu(625) cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code DCERPC_FAULT_OP_RNG_ERROR received from remote machine ECWSERVER pipe \lsarpc fnum 0x7104! Here is my setup: PDC: ECWSERVER ; FreeBSD 6-stable and samba-3.0.23b,1 member: ECWTEST ; freeBSD 6-stable and samba-3.0.23b,1 Both servers are on the same network and have static IPs. i am able to ping, etc.. using the netbios names my /etc/nssswitch.conf is the same on both: group: files winbind group_compat: nis hosts: files dns networks: files passwd: files winbind passwd_compat: nis shells: files PDC smb.conf: # Global parameters [global] workgroup = ECW netbios name = ECWSERVER passdb backend = tdbsam:/usr/local/etc/samba/private/passwd.tdb os level = 65 preferred master = yes domain master = yes local master = yes domain logons = yes wins support = yes #server string = Samba %v on %L server string = security = USER encrypt passwords = yes disable spoolss = Yes guest ok = yes follow symlinks = no case sensitive = no idmap uid = 15000-20000 idmap gid = 15000-20000 username map = /usr/local/etc/samba/smbusers name resolve order = hosts wins bcast time server = Yes #printing options #printing = cups #printcap name = cups #load printers = yes #show add printer wizard = Yes #printer admin = @ecwadmins,@wheel #user scripts add user script = /usr/sbin/pw useradd -n %u -g ecwusers -s /usr/sbin/nologin -c "" delete user script = /usr/sbin/pw userdel -n %u add group script = /usr/sbin/pw groupadd -n %g delete group script = /usr/sbin/pw groupdel -n %g add user to group script = /usr/sbin/pw usermod -n %u -g %g #add machine script = /usr/sbin/pw useradd -n %u -g 100 -s /usr/sbin/nologin -d /dev/null #user directories logon home = \\%N\%U\ logon drive = H: #roaming profiles logon path = ############################# the member server smb.conf: # Global parameters [global] workgroup = ECW netbios name = ECWTEST #server string = Samba %v on %L server string = security = domain password server = ECWSERVER wins server = 10.0.0.6 encrypt passwords = yes idmap uid = 15000-20000 idmap gid = 15000-20000 winbind use default domain = yes guest ok = yes follow symlinks = no case sensitive = no os level = 33 preferred master = no domain master = no #bind interfaces only = yes #interfaces = fxp0 lo0 #hosts deny = ALL #hosts allow = 10.0.0.0/24 127. name resolve order = hosts wins bcast Thanks. henrik -- Henrik Hudson rhavenn@rhavenn.net ------------------------------ "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't..." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 18:59:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BA516A4E1 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1399943D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:59:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1087458nfc for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:59:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RtMiCIGd8p0tMoKYlWTXfHbTJe92vKM4CuQnjNBmj/6vXeIjnTOHfAyrwTLKhCZH0tyIlfVBi5pZPc3bKBR2wK1a09m8uxYpUGNhJpLGsPtA2ihxSxMjDGuejGHx9EPrOCbaCtO6AgqpVFox/2bdtzvDZh/lGJF7NgyA/DVWPps= Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr5744076nfi; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.14 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:59:06 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: rhavenn@rhavenn.net In-Reply-To: <200609031346.05261.rhavenn@rhavenn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200609031346.05261.rhavenn@rhavenn.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba problem; member server can't authenticate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:59:08 -0000 On 9/3/06, Henrik Hudson wrote: > > I have a Samba PDC and a Samba Member Server. > > The Samba PDC works fine, but the problem is that the Member Server can't > authenticate users and let me browse file shares and i always get the error: > NT_STATUS_NO_LOGON_SERVERS Sounds like your member server can't contact the pdc's logon service. > the wierd thing is that sometimes: SMBCLIENT -L ECWTEST > will work and list my shares. However, the first time I actually try to > authenticate a user to browse a share the whole shebang stops and I get the > above error. I'm using Konqueror and smb://ecwtest/sharename to connect. Try to always use FQDN (ecwtest.domain.blah); or be very careful and complete in the way you set up your name resolution (WINS, DNS). Especially if you have hosts on different subnets. > I don't need to make any PAM changes to allow just file / share authentication > do I? No. Samba doesn't use PAM. > One thing, the member server is a new rebuild of a machine with the same name > and the PDC is a upgrade using the TDBs, etc.. from backup. I did remove the > machine account from the PDC and then re-added it using net join and that > worked fine. > > I ran through the test at the back of the "offical book" and all of them work > except the actual sharing and the nmblookup -d 2 '*' on the member server > and of course the smbclient specific ones. nmblookup is a WINS resolution tool. If your WINS server is not configured and functioning and your computers are on different subnets (or have blocking firewalls) you will have problems. If you don't use FQDN samba will, probably, be using WINS to resolve your host names. > > the member server smb.conf: > > # Global parameters > [global] > workgroup = ECW > netbios name = ECWTEST > #server string = Samba %v on %L > server string = > security = domain > password server = ECWSERVER Make that an FQDN hostname or ip address. > wins server = 10.0.0.6 > encrypt passwords = yes > idmap uid = 15000-20000 > idmap gid = 15000-20000 > winbind use default domain = yes > guest ok = yes > follow symlinks = no > case sensitive = no > os level = 33 > > preferred master = no > domain master = no > > #bind interfaces only = yes > #interfaces = fxp0 lo0 > #hosts deny = ALL > #hosts allow = 10.0.0.0/24 127. > > name resolve order = hosts wins bcast > And check your firewall rules. -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 19:04:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3419616A4E1 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from opseuregion2-bounces@list.web.net) Received: from list.web.net (list.web.net [192.139.37.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53FD43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:04:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from opseuregion2-bounces@list.web.net) Received: from iktulaut.web.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by list.web.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6931B6146 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:08:15 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: opseuregion2-bounces@list.web.net To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:08:15 -0400 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: opseuregion2@list.web.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: opseuregion2-bounces@list.web.net Errors-To: opseuregion2-bounces@list.web.net Cc: Subject: Your message to Opseuregion2 awaits moderator approval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:04:14 -0000 Your mail to 'Opseuregion2' with the subject (no subject) Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. 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If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://list.web.net/lists/confirm/opseuregion2/e89ba7545bbb7d4841b2382068a75c43fe44ec73 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 19:04:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED0816A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from santos@sisteges.com) Received: from smtp.ciberleon.net (7.Red-88-2-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [88.2.222.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781EE43D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:04:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from santos@sisteges.com) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (helo=PCRIEGO) by smtp.ciberleon.net with esmtpa id 1GJx8c-0001Qv-Ow for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:56:11 +0200 From: "Santos" To: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:04:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcbPgd9KBO0ctEADT3SNIaCnFz/aiA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Message-Id: <20060903190423.781EE43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Error in the list of ports www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:04:25 -0000 The courier-authlib-ldap-0.58_2 port requires openldap-client-2.2.30, not 2.3.27 Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 19:07:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFF816A4EB for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conradbellman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15F743D76 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:07:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conradbellman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2446180pye for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:07:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=lbuzf1cia8xVY9bAeMaYm0JcmfQNq0sEDVJNiYVVBzVc3i6BaRqF0JMBcBV/reLlm8LSPMldzm1UPslQDzI6mtOeaqeCCBsyNG2jIj7hZ65Wy1UjNNcY9N3/R4cfu4p/etNZdO0ZFK3rIFaP/YSvXFD61jqNE/gbYHfC65btpjg= Received: by 10.35.60.15 with SMTP id n15mr8270611pyk; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.16.8 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88cad3b50609031207k3cc95619j65b98254e11dc30f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:07:09 -0700 From: "Conrad Bellman" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Conrad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:07:24 -0000 I am interested in downloadind the 2 disks for linux, and trying to install them on my computer, but I am not sure what i have to download, could comeone please help me Conrad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 19:11:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA2E16A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9784B43D6E for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:11:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1643982wxd for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:11:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=chZiAvslgvSXSbAYufvIiKg5fyYaDi+Tm84gWuIF0whzQs/0FF5yzjs9pBfhjBcuJp1Bie9B2Whnve+ERElLQxZmTg2lMKypckj3dPwDgLxiRfhN/32gPsTR4V4o4UnxwRqme1F759WdRkYi1Icq8KjskQi1ExArIf/OYYcpg8M= Received: by 10.70.109.12 with SMTP id h12mr6490870wxc; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.5? ( [67.191.189.255]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g7sm4268837wra.2006.09.03.12.11.11; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:11:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <352397EE-89F9-4CC6-BE5C-36EA02BE6E1F@mac.com> References: <352397EE-89F9-4CC6-BE5C-36EA02BE6E1F@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6B474140-FFA7-4226-9B59-13894FC594FE@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Anthony Agelastos Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:11:08 -0400 To: g X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do you get gnustep to run? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:11:22 -0000 On Sep 3, 2006, at 1:43 PM, g wrote: > using the direction in chapter 5 didn't help. i followed the > instructions and now x window system does not start. i'm going to > reload the os and follow the directions again. You probably do not need to reload the OS. When you install FreeBSD, I recommend you to install the base system and to keep the amount of Packages you install to a minimum. Install X.org from Ports and then follow the instructions within the FreeBSD Handbook. > the xorg.conf.new file requires information i may not have and > cannot find, the vertical and horizontal frequencies. if i can't > find the frequencies, are there default values that i can use to > create that file. I did not know my monitor information and used the values that it came up with and they appeared to work fine. If it works for you, then use them. If it does not, then call your monitor manufacturer and get the information you need. Or, resort to Google; you can probably find the information there. I, along with the rest of freebsd-questions, need to know more information before a potential fix can be prescribed. This information includes, as an example, what your current OS version is (output of uname -a), how you installed X.org (Ports or Packages), what you currently have in your xorg.conf.new file, what steps you have taken and what the output is (many of the log files are within / var/log), your hardware (what type of video card and monitor do you have), etc. Anything that you _think_ may be relevant needs to be given. If you are unsure, then posting extra information will not hamper things. In the event that it can help you right now, I have pasted the contents of my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well as my .xinitrc file (~/.xinitrc) which will start Window Maker when startx is entered. I hope this helps. cat xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 330 240 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL D1025TM" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "HWcursor" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "FlatPanel" # [] #Option "FPDither" # [] #Option "CrtcNumber" # #Option "FPScale" # [] #Option "FPTweak" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "nv" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection <.xinitrc> # WindowMaker default X session startup script PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" # If you login from xdm, uncomment this to make error messages appear # in the console window. # # tail -f /home/iqgrande/.xsession-errors > /dev/console & exec wmaker > > www.windowmaker.info site seems to be down It is up now. The documentation here will primarily assist you after it is installed and operational. > > thanks, > > g. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 19:27:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE1916A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhavenn@rhavenn.net) Received: from smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C21D43D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:27:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rhavenn@rhavenn.net) Received: from arucard.int.ecreativeworks.com (unknown [66.173.15.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: henrik@ecwwebworks.com) by relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 77EAF44C03D; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:27:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Henrik Hudson To: "Atom Powers" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:27:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200609031346.05261.rhavenn@rhavenn.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609031427.26625.rhavenn@rhavenn.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba problem; member server can't authenticate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rhavenn@rhavenn.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:27:28 -0000 On Sunday 03 September 2006 13:59, "Atom Powers" sent a missive stating: > On 9/3/06, Henrik Hudson wrote: > > I have a Samba PDC and a Samba Member Server. > > > > The Samba PDC works fine, but the problem is that the Member Server can't > > authenticate users and let me browse file shares and i always get the > > error: NT_STATUS_NO_LOGON_SERVERS > > Sounds like your member server can't contact the pdc's logon service. > Yeap :) > > the wierd thing is that sometimes: SMBCLIENT -L ECWTEST > > will work and list my shares. However, the first time I actually try to > > authenticate a user to browse a share the whole shebang stops and I get > > the above error. I'm using Konqueror and smb://ecwtest/sharename to > > connect. > > Try to always use FQDN (ecwtest.domain.blah); or be very careful and > complete in the way you set up your name resolution (WINS, DNS). > Especially if you have hosts on different subnets. I've tried it both ways. Some people say to use the FQDN and some the other way around. > nmblookup is a WINS resolution tool. If your WINS server is not > configured and functioning and your computers are on different subnets > (or have blocking firewalls) you will have problems. If you don't use > FQDN samba will, probably, be using WINS to resolve your host names. My firewalls are 100% off until I get this working. henrik -- Henrik Hudson rhavenn@rhavenn.net ------------------------------ "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't..." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 19:32:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2996A16A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc3-cmbg1-0-0-cust506.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [82.21.101.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845A343D53 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:32:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from jools.slightlystrange.org ([192.168.0.2]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63 #0) id 1GJxha-000AKJ-EF for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:32:18 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: Free BSD Questions list Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:32:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060903143359.GA22029@teddy.fas.com> In-Reply-To: <20060903143359.GA22029@teddy.fas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1614808.nYNNxVH2UO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609032032.20961.dan@slightlystrange.org> X-SA-Do-Not-Run: Yes X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.0.2 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: dan@slightlystrange.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on catflap.slightlystrange.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: Problesm with X application default X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dan@slightlystrange.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:32:22 -0000 --nextPart1614808.nYNNxVH2UO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 03 September 2006 15:33, stan wrote: > I'm building a replacement machine for a long serving workstation > that finally died a hardware death. > > I've built a new machine updated to 6 CURRENT, and installed the > KDE metaport. I have a customize XTerm application defaults > file from a backup of the old machine. However, I can't seem to get > xterm to honor it. I'm running xterm from teh menu bar in KDE > with alauncher, and the -ls command line option. > > I use ksh, and I have my .profile set up to set the following > environment variable: > > PPLRESDIR=3D/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/:/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults:/h= ome/ >stan/.X11/app-defaults > > [---snip---] > > But despite that the Xterm comes up in white with black text. So, > I put the same file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults, but it > still does not honor it > > Can anyone sugest what I am doing wrong? It's more to do with how KDE handles it, I think. From what reading I did= =20 about this a while ago, you need to tell KDE to read your X settings as it= =20 starts. I have a little sh script in ~/.kde/Autostart/load_Xdefaults.sh: #!/bin/sh [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb ] && /usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults Looking at your XTerm file, you should be able to load it in much the same= =20 way. HTH Dan =2D-=20 Daniel Bye Local Host Services Partnership http://www.localhostservices.co.uk --nextPart1614808.nYNNxVH2UO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE+y3Eixf5fBYiFmoRAj1DAJ45lqCHyCBl97Gzo1DZNAyDXX9O4gCdH9p7 SKSFzl5Tnx4UaFjxwZ7oYFQ= =N9Rx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1614808.nYNNxVH2UO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:01:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE8816A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C2643D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:01:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k83K1hj1079089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:01:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FB3488.4070607@enabled.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:01:12 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ensuring the same group and user IDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:01:46 -0000 Hi there, How can I ensure the user and group IDs are the same between two systems without breaking things? Is it as easy to copy /etc/group and /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd between machines? Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:23:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A6216A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258F843D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:23:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1659104wxd for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:23:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kbJOttmaH2KsnBDR4NA4dpDn9c6Tk0gX97XOUTYnrRRN5UUJUt4ZsxrgyngQFW4D0E5YOmvOQ63RgJo/+hqvOLkK96GZlMTAXL5cys/ErpYC3/+JWVmcb8eYQs6g9a+aT+IXpFIOaQxccqas3w89FMDuEAxaJwjUB/sRJogvlkc= Received: by 10.70.99.9 with SMTP id w9mr6406147wxb; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.9 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:21:49 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: portversion is part of what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:23:23 -0000 Hi -- Is portversion a part of another big binary? Apparently, I can't just reinstall portversion. TIA, Henry L. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:31:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C8F16A4E2 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B17943D58 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:31:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0111A3C20; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DFEBB51617; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:31:07 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Santos Message-ID: <20060903203107.GA3719@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060903190423.781EE43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060903190423.781EE43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Error in the list of ports www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:31:09 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 09:04:21PM +0200, Santos wrote: > =20 >=20 > The > > courier-authlib-ldap-0.58_2 This confused me for a while, because your URL is for a different port. > port requires openldap-client-2.2.30, not 2.3.27 You must be looking at an old ports tree; 2.3.27 is used by the current tree (since July). Kris --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE+zuLWry0BWjoQKURAlFnAKC61flaKecWkmWlugce+8MTasPBhgCg+lUQ UeC+za2z6VG17oxLQFVfhCg= =Npft -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:31:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139B116A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE28643D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:31:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84511A3C20; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 45C9C5164F; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:31:25 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Henry Lenzi Message-ID: <20060903203125.GB3719@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portversion is part of what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:31:26 -0000 --TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 05:21:49PM -0300, Henry Lenzi wrote: > Hi -- >=20 > Is portversion a part of another big binary? Apparently, I can't just > reinstall portversion. sysutils/portupgrade Kris --TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE+zucWry0BWjoQKURAobEAJ9uomx/mn7VA5yEogvZGns3BYmGJQCcDZfh naqgwZt2QBBzKUSxbXzmHc8= =CgwR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:31:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C4716A4E1 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A143143D58 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:31:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GJydA-0002Cr-P9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:31:48 +0200 Received: from 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz ([202.89.159.152]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:31:48 +0200 Received: from p.lists by 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:31:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Philip Q Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:31:34 +1200 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 202-89-159-152.ubs.qsi.net.nz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.5) Gecko/20060719 Thunderbird/1.5.0.5 Mnenhy/0.7.4.0 In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> X-Archive: encrypt Sender: news Subject: Re: portversion is part of what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:32:00 -0000 Henry Lenzi wrote, On 4/09/06 8.21 a: > Hi -- > > Is portversion a part of another big binary? Apparently, I can't just > reinstall portversion. portversion comes as part of sysutils/portupgrade -Phil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:32:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD7516A505 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC2B43D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:32:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.146] (helo=anti-virus03-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GJye3-0003fl-71; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:32:43 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GJye1-0004r1-Rj; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:32:41 +0100 Message-ID: <44FB3BE9.4060007@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:32:41 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henry Lenzi References: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portversion is part of what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:32:45 -0000 Henry Lenzi wrote: > Hi -- > > Is portversion a part of another big binary? Apparently, I can't just > reinstall portversion. $ pkg_info -W `which portversion` /usr/local/sbin/portversion was installed by package portupgrade-20041226_7 --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:35:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F0716A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E91F43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from arwen.nagual.nl (arwen.nagual.nl [192.168.11.29]) by nagual.nl with esmtp; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:35:18 +0200 id 0003980A.44FB3C86.0000049B Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:35:18 +0200 From: dick hoogendijk To: fbsdq Message-Id: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:35:20 -0000 I have a 3-part disk: (a) XP for games (b) FreeBSD-6.1 (my main OS) (c) FreeBSD-6.1 (a backup) I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for studying this OS. I burned the DVD. Will it install solaris on this third partition without trouble? Will I be able to continue to use the FreeBSD bootloader or do I need to isntall sol's grub? The documentation on SUN and solaris is huge. Many many pdf files.. Are there better ways then these pdf's? Good books on solaris 10? Starting points on the net? I ask here because I know lot of you guys here have also installed solaris 10 (at least I remember seeing it here) Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of experience with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 ++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:37:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B307A16A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B2643D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:37:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k83KbgtE090655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k83Kbgup090654; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA16157; Sun, 3 Sep 06 13:30:07 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Sep 06 13:30:07 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609032030.AA16157@pluto.rain.com> To: conradbellman@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <88cad3b50609031207k3cc95619j65b98254e11dc30f@mail.gmail.com> References-To: <88cad3b50609031207k3cc95619j65b98254e11dc30f@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Conrad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:37:54 -0000 > I am interested in downloadind the 2 disks for linux, and trying > to install them on my computer, but I am not sure what i have to > download, could comeone please help me You may be asking the wrong list. FreeBSD is not Linux, although it can run many Linux binaries if configured appropriately. For Linux, you probably want to be looking into something along the lines of Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, Mandrake, or Suse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:39:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD05A16A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83114.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83114.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FB4543D58 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:39:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 98948 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2006 20:39:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uzOsB9ih5xVbCVQ6DMmViccah+JXfQbqSKWG9Wp6l/D8XJAPgaUbEpP6l6VO4F4JIITsWg7sXrEKpwjWhlDsEMW5vm2RBcOUNjeE1cJoR/kO8xL/lD2VxLaAGb9QWNUJ3m5FIFyEDFF7TK67KV9aMwjZhCgr9FfR7RZZmnySfow= ; Message-ID: <20060903203900.98946.qmail@web83114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.17.32.58] by web83114.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:39:00 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:39:00 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: stan , ?????? ????? In-Reply-To: <20060903173516.GA27923@teddy.fas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question about programming RS-232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:39:01 -0000 --- stan wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 11:26:04PM +0600, ?????? > ????? wrote: > > Hello. > > I have a question I can't deal myself. > > And nobody can help me in resolving my problem. > > > > Problem: > > I have a hand-made device, I want to control from > FreeBSD 6.1 > > (I am porting this application from Windows > equivalent). > > But I don't know, in what device /dev/ I should > write to get reults. > > I tryed to write bytes into /dev/ttyd0, > /dev/cuad0, but got nothing. :( > > > Start off by using minicom (or cu) to talk to the > device. By doing > this you can sort through baud rate/parity,hardware > issues. > > Once you have that working, then move on to code. > > -- > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to > understand the simplicity. > (Dennis Ritchie) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > does your handmade device use RS-232? If its PIC or some such microcontroller based they claim to be RS-232 compliant but they do not always use +12V and -12V levels. MAX-232 chips can correct this. I assume if it worked in windows for you this might not the case, but you never know. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:39:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E5816A4E0 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from t3h1337n00b@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAF843D49 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:39:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from t3h1337n00b@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1098858nfc for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:39:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eXrAOEEHvfwpL2jYjr8xP8MZQW/mBIa6Dpmv8rZO6EalpFuFe744QUxosv9MrTlwcVIknujgY2ZX48n6VnMHNWFJcoyWo4njw2EtPDlWVMexvg2X6nDx5qKRqAsteNuNv5xjyb3ZDibGi/6MVxsxlYEYU8XAzMWd04Dp/zN1M7k= Received: by 10.48.14.4 with SMTP id 4mr5863279nfn; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.11 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47ab2b740609031339n1f4688b7y73209e46a11101e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:39:17 -0400 From: "Andy Street" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47ab2b740609022317p6a65e4a3ha80e546278b11888@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <47ab2b740609022317p6a65e4a3ha80e546278b11888@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Can't Find Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:39:22 -0000 [I'm not sure if this got sent becvause I just got a message saying that since I wasn't a member, a message entitled "No Subject" was waiting approval. I think I'm a member now, but if this email went out twice, I appologize] Hi guys, I had installed FreeBSD in my schools computer systems lab, so I decided to install it at home as a dual boot with Solaris 10, already installed on half the HD. I downloaded the images off FreeBSD.org, burned them to CD's, and then did a post burn md5sum on them to make sure they burned properly. The install seemed to go well, other than not being able to read fvwm off the disc. When I boot, the error I'm getting after I select FreeBSD in the boot loader is that it "cant find the 'kernel'". Just before I get the error, it says "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf", so naturally that's the first place I looked after booting into single user mode with the live CD. Strangely, I found that not only was there no /boot/defaults/loader.conf, the /boot/defaults folder didn't even exist. There is, however, a /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf. Normally, I'd just edit the boot loader but 1) I want to make sure something didn't go horribly wrong with the install (I also noticed that bin and sbin in the / directory had @ signs after them, i.e. bin@, and I wasn't sure this was normal, though I haven't dealt with UNIX much), and 2) according to google and the online documentation, the only way to "edit" the boot loader is to install a new one. So, what should I do? Copy the /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf to /boot/defaults/loader.conf? Reinstall using the CD's I burned at school that I know work? Install a new boot loader and point it at /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf? Thanks in advance for the help. Andy Street From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 20:40:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0F716A4E8 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhavenn@rhavenn.net) Received: from smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E773E43D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:40:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rhavenn@rhavenn.net) Received: from arucard.int.ecreativeworks.com (unknown [66.173.15.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: henrik@ecwwebworks.com) by relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 58D7244C11A for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:40:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Henrik Hudson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:40:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200609031346.05261.rhavenn@rhavenn.net> In-Reply-To: <200609031346.05261.rhavenn@rhavenn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609031540.35199.rhavenn@rhavenn.net> Subject: Re: samba problem; member server can't authenticate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rhavenn@rhavenn.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:40:37 -0000 FYI: It seems the winbind use default domain = yes was getting the member server all messed up in the head. I removed that and suddenly it became just a problem of changing my permissions to include the ECW domain in the allowed users. Thanks for the responses. henrik On Sunday 03 September 2006 13:46, Henrik Hudson sent a missive stating: > Hey List- > > I tried the Samba lists...but didn't get any tips there..so possibly a > freebsd issue? Dunno, anyways.... > > I have a Samba PDC and a Samba Member Server. > > The Samba PDC works fine, but the problem is that the Member Server can't > authenticate users and let me browse file shares and i always get the > error: NT_STATUS_NO_LOGON_SERVERS > > the wierd thing is that sometimes: SMBCLIENT -L ECWTEST > will work and list my shares. However, the first time I actually try to > authenticate a user to browse a share the whole shebang stops and I get the > above error. I'm using Konqueror and smb://ecwtest/sharename to connect. > > I don't need to make any PAM changes to allow just file / share > authentication do I? > > One thing, the member server is a new rebuild of a machine with the same > name and the PDC is a upgrade using the TDBs, etc.. from backup. I did > remove the machine account from the PDC and then re-added it using net join > and that worked fine. > > I ran through the test at the back of the "offical book" and all of them > work except the actual sharing and the nmblookup -d 2 '*' on the member > server and of course the smbclient specific ones. > > wbinfo -u and wbinfo -g work on the member server and i can chown files to > users only in the PDC in the samba users file. I just can't authenticate. > > the only error I'm seeing is in log.wb-ECW and its: > [2006/09/03 12:54:12, 1] > rpc_client/cli_pipe.c:cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu(625) > cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code DCERPC_FAULT_OP_RNG_ERROR > received from remote machine ECWSERVER pipe \lsarpc fnum 0x70a8! > [2006/09/03 13:17:04, 1] > rpc_client/cli_pipe.c:cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu(625) > cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code DCERPC_FAULT_OP_RNG_ERROR > received from remote machine ECWSERVER pipe \NETLOGON fnum 0x7549! > [2006/09/03 13:38:05, 0] nsswitch/winbindd_dual.c:child_read_request(49) > Got invalid request length: 0 > [2006/09/03 13:38:12, 1] > rpc_client/cli_pipe.c:cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu(625) > cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code DCERPC_FAULT_OP_RNG_ERROR > received from remote machine ECWSERVER pipe \lsarpc fnum 0x7104! > > > > Here is my setup: > > PDC: ECWSERVER ; FreeBSD 6-stable and samba-3.0.23b,1 > member: ECWTEST ; freeBSD 6-stable and samba-3.0.23b,1 > > Both servers are on the same network and have static IPs. i am able to > ping, etc.. using the netbios names > > my /etc/nssswitch.conf is the same on both: > group: files winbind > group_compat: nis > hosts: files dns > networks: files > passwd: files winbind > passwd_compat: nis > shells: files > > PDC smb.conf: > # Global parameters > [global] > workgroup = ECW > netbios name = ECWSERVER > passdb backend = tdbsam:/usr/local/etc/samba/private/passwd.tdb > os level = 65 > preferred master = yes > domain master = yes > local master = yes > domain logons = yes > wins support = yes > #server string = Samba %v on %L > server string = > security = USER > encrypt passwords = yes > disable spoolss = Yes > guest ok = yes > follow symlinks = no > case sensitive = no > idmap uid = 15000-20000 > idmap gid = 15000-20000 > username map = /usr/local/etc/samba/smbusers > > name resolve order = hosts wins bcast > time server = Yes > > #printing options > #printing = cups > #printcap name = cups > #load printers = yes > #show add printer wizard = Yes > #printer admin = @ecwadmins,@wheel > > #user scripts > add user script = /usr/sbin/pw useradd -n %u -g > ecwusers -s /usr/sbin/nologin -c "" > delete user script = /usr/sbin/pw userdel -n %u > add group script = /usr/sbin/pw groupadd -n %g > delete group script = /usr/sbin/pw groupdel -n %g > add user to group script = /usr/sbin/pw usermod -n %u -g %g > #add machine script = /usr/sbin/pw useradd -n %u -g > 100 -s /usr/sbin/nologin -d /dev/null > > #user directories > logon home = \\%N\%U\ > logon drive = H: > > #roaming profiles > logon path = > > ############################# > > > the member server smb.conf: > > # Global parameters > [global] > workgroup = ECW > netbios name = ECWTEST > #server string = Samba %v on %L > server string = > security = domain > password server = ECWSERVER > wins server = 10.0.0.6 > encrypt passwords = yes > idmap uid = 15000-20000 > idmap gid = 15000-20000 > winbind use default domain = yes > guest ok = yes > follow symlinks = no > case sensitive = no > os level = 33 > > preferred master = no > domain master = no > > #bind interfaces only = yes > #interfaces = fxp0 lo0 > #hosts deny = ALL > #hosts allow = 10.0.0.0/24 127. > > name resolve order = hosts wins bcast > > > > Thanks. > > henrik -- Henrik Hudson rhavenn@rhavenn.net ------------------------------ "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't..." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 21:05:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A46C16A4E2 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5443D53 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (monrovll-cuda1-24-53-251-44.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.53.251.44]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:05:21 -0400 id 00056403.44FB4391.0000C6E6 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:05:20 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Noah Message-Id: <20060903170520.881cff2e.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <44FB3488.4070607@enabled.com> References: <44FB3488.4070607@enabled.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ensuring the same group and user IDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:05:24 -0000 Noah wrote: > > Hi there, > > How can I ensure the user and group IDs are the same between two systems > without breaking things? > > Is it as easy to copy /etc/group and /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd > between machines? Yes, but read the man page for pwd_mkdb first. Other than that, it works fine. If you're going to be doing this on a larger scale, look into Kerberos or similar. -- Bill Moran Someting happened or something. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 21:12:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C4616A4E2 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A5F43D72 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([217.147.20.50] helo=bs2.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GJzGR-0005WT-AR; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:12:23 +0400 Received: from bsam by bs2.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GJzM3-0000Mi-Ug; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:11 +0400 To: "Henry Lenzi" References: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:11 +0400 In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0609031321r71af650cpd6b1cef6b5d02039@mail.gmail.com> (Henry Lenzi's message of "Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:21:49 -0300") Message-ID: <26925676@bs2.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portversion is part of what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:12:30 -0000 On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:21:49 -0300 Henry Lenzi wrote: > Is portversion a part of another big binary? Apparently, I can't just > reinstall portversion. > TIA, $ which portversion /usr/local/sbin/portversion $ pkg_info -W /usr/local/sbin/portversion /usr/local/sbin/portversion was installed by package portupgrade-2.0.1_1,1 WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru, Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org, The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 21:21:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CAB16A508 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2656643D4C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:21:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1671061wxd for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:21:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H3+VJ3Q+6CNRGorWadx+DCFiU1aKF60gF7L/jQ0CvIimJG38wxlCZIIlJfIAUFUaQBkHKv0ZF8xYTUqe2IhHTznBdmtASg6JC7X36U0c93+ydqKaYk8jngRmFObg1S10PxoQnOJQz5+PGaIYrJetoORARaDSw6L/vtCmxjLpmbw= Received: by 10.90.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr1018342agb; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609031419o17e51e67u9d0c2caf23517e8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:19:30 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Andy Street" In-Reply-To: <47ab2b740609031339n1f4688b7y73209e46a11101e0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <47ab2b740609022317p6a65e4a3ha80e546278b11888@mail.gmail.com> <47ab2b740609031339n1f4688b7y73209e46a11101e0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't Find Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:21:11 -0000 On 03/09/06, Andy Street wrote: > > [I'm not sure if this got sent becvause I just got a message saying that > since I wasn't a member, a message entitled "No Subject" was waiting > approval. I think I'm a member now, but if this email went out twice, I > appologize] > > Hi guys, > > I had installed FreeBSD in my schools computer systems lab, so I decided > to > install it at home as a dual boot with Solaris 10, already installed on > half > the HD. I downloaded the images off FreeBSD.org, burned them to CD's, and > then did a post burn md5sum on them to make sure they burned > properly. The > install seemed to go well, other than not being able to read fvwm off the > disc. When I boot, the error I'm getting after I select FreeBSD in the > boot > loader is that it "cant find the 'kernel'". Just before I get the error, > it > says "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf", so naturally that's the first > place I looked after booting into single user mode with the live CD. > Strangely, I found that not only was there no /boot/defaults/loader.conf, > the /boot/defaults folder didn't even exist. There is, however, a > /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf. Normally, I'd just edit the boot loader > but 1) I want to make sure something didn't go horribly wrong with the > install (I also noticed that bin and sbin in the / directory had @ signs > after them, i.e. bin@, and I wasn't sure this was normal, though I haven't > dealt with UNIX much), and 2) according to google and the online > documentation, the only way to "edit" the boot loader is to install a new > one. > > So, what should I do? Copy the /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf to > /boot/defaults/loader.conf? Reinstall using the CD's I burned at school > that I know work? Install a new boot loader and point it at > /dist/boot/defaults/loader.conf? It got sent. I've had this problem too; it appears to be a problem with the installation program. Yes, the fix is to copy the relevant files from the CD. The best way I've found to do that is to boot the install cd and choose the fixit option. Thanks in advance for the help. You're welcome! Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 21:22:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFF516A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB1E43D58 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:22:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k83LLw1q083302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FB4757.1090602@enabled.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:21:27 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <44FB3488.4070607@enabled.com> <20060903170520.881cff2e.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20060903170520.881cff2e.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ensuring the same group and user IDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:22:09 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > Noah wrote: > > >> Hi there, >> >> How can I ensure the user and group IDs are the same between two systems >> without breaking things? >> >> Is it as easy to copy /etc/group and /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd >> between machines? >> > > Yes, but read the man page for pwd_mkdb first. Other than that, it works > fine. > > If you're going to be doing this on a larger scale, look into Kerberos or > similar. > > thank you kindly for your guidance. this is exactly the information I was looking for. cheers, noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 21:52:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1CF16A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0B043D5C for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:52:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2517757pye for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:52:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Q6y+h4cTYXRpjViblK/Mf57sIVmRP4KrllEigw6miZCPn0YpW/XRe5yLs6X7EeKTbgrkowDspP/fKHTpJAsntlT02ic4SkXC8rTR3x4B2e5fq7xGGo0Dkohr5v80N2+YhpsuHUqU/RJegbR1932dlKsarkJfP1iqUHkeE4zlR+E= Received: by 10.65.219.1 with SMTP id w1mr2373816qbq; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609031452g70f7ca5bgdaf3e73a78c9be8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:52:46 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: changing the gdm resolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:52:48 -0000 Is there a way to change the gdm resolution (login screen). It's a little bit low for me and I need 1280x1024 thanks -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 22:19:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB22216A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E628D43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:19:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from Anne (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29228 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:19:30 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060903161335.0989f158@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:19:23 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Best gigabit network interface for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:19:36 -0000 Was going to post this to net@, but figured I'd get a bigger audience and better answers on this list. (Please copy responses to me as well as the list to make sure I see them.) I'm building a machine which is going to have very high network loads, but can't really use a TCP/IP "accelerator" because much of the traffic won't be TCP. What, as of now, is the most capable gigabit Ethernet interface for FreeBSD? Which has the cleanest, simplest driver? The most onboard buffer space to prevent overruns and underruns? The fastest bus interface? The least interrupt overhead (important because interrupts in FreeBSD 6.x are relatively expensive)? I have some Intel "em" interfaces available to me, but have been told that while the driver is well supported they are quirky and not the best choice. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 22:22:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA9116A514 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300BA43D58 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:22:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFB313A858; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C2F1083BC5; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GK0M0-0000xm-00; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:22:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:22:12 -0400 From: stan To: Daniel Bye Message-ID: <20060903222212.GA3684@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Bye , Free BSD Questions list References: <20060903143359.GA22029@teddy.fas.com> <200609032032.20961.dan@slightlystrange.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609032032.20961.dan@slightlystrange.org> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 18:20:16 up 139 days, 19:25, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.04 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Problesm with X application default X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:22:21 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 08:32:14PM +0100, Daniel Bye wrote: > On Sunday 03 September 2006 15:33, stan wrote: > > I'm building a replacement machine for a long serving workstation > > that finally died a hardware death. > > > > I've built a new machine updated to 6 CURRENT, and installed the > > KDE metaport. I have a customize XTerm application defaults > > file from a backup of the old machine. However, I can't seem to get > > xterm to honor it. I'm running xterm from teh menu bar in KDE > > with alauncher, and the -ls command line option. > > > > I use ksh, and I have my .profile set up to set the following > > environment variable: > > > > PPLRESDIR=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/:/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults:/home/ > >stan/.X11/app-defaults > > > > > [---snip---] > > > > But despite that the Xterm comes up in white with black text. So, > > I put the same file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults, but it > > still does not honor it > > > > Can anyone sugest what I am doing wrong? > > It's more to do with how KDE handles it, I think. From what reading I did > about this a while ago, you need to tell KDE to read your X settings as it > starts. I have a little sh script in ~/.kde/Autostart/load_Xdefaults.sh: > > #!/bin/sh > > [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb ] && /usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults > > Looking at your XTerm file, you should be able to load it in much the same > way. > Thanks, I will give that a try. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 22:24:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF6D16A4E1 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9666843D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:24:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool3.panix.com (mailspool3.panix.com [166.84.1.78]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FB058927; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F216D2DCE2; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GK0OE-000104-00; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:24:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:24:30 -0400 From: stan To: Jordi Carrillo Message-ID: <20060903222430.GB3684@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jordi Carrillo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <94ff3700609031452g70f7ca5bgdaf3e73a78c9be8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609031452g70f7ca5bgdaf3e73a78c9be8@mail.gmail.com> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 18:20:16 up 139 days, 19:25, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.04 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing the gdm resolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:24:32 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 11:52:46PM +0200, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > Is there a way to change the gdm resolution (login screen). It's a little > bit low for me and I need 1280x1024 > thanks Doesn't kdm just use the X settings? If so, you can fix this in your X config file. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 22:37:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BB816A4E5 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conradbellman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A8943D67 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:37:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conradbellman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c59so2333259pyc for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:37:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=KdE3QzEB0MTVA+OubF27a6T2qNlAvFCYw1073aURRbhSjkD6+LVukOPlhznffoL3rolFZrE7kMm66+daabSGo79dqkPVYvnMIN24Vn/bBUs8ZIq7lRTUVR58rridlCuIRYJ+N8A2HIOblWIxKyoVwXOSSIHMdP0zcSrJdJ5QkJE= Received: by 10.35.106.1 with SMTP id i1mr8637281pym; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.16.8 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88cad3b50609031537y1c5ae045wfeebe5d8cfdd8514@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:37:47 -0700 From: "Conrad Bellman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Conrad(CB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:37:52 -0000 To Whom It May Concern:: I am interest in downloading & installing freebsd, but I can not find the links to download the two disks, I am hopeing someone could help with with the nlinks for downloading trhe 2 disks, please & thank you, I am anxious to get involved with this, but as you can see I am a newby, thank you for your time and patients, CB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 22:46:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DDA16A4E6 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB6343D5A for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:46:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2540521pye for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:46:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cQeg/GqM+wcYLSDXHW7C8DGdpLcnoLp3cIMa4a+NpxbzCPlD+ZRx9kBfvUUznX+MmsvDhyGOnvC7hXUB76ztc1Oj99Iklyl7r73cmF0W+YCqQD3XzQ/72XBoM150S4wDufbxkH+ulx+Okj7iDpvxlSXL/LkM9YYwwyKzZa7sndE= Received: by 10.64.143.12 with SMTP id q12mr2406629qbd; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609031546r383c3d82ie738062ec45cdd89@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:46:11 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: "Jordi Carrillo" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060903222430.GB3684@teddy.fas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94ff3700609031452g70f7ca5bgdaf3e73a78c9be8@mail.gmail.com> <20060903222430.GB3684@teddy.fas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: changing the gdm resolution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:46:15 -0000 Already solved, thanks Just tweaking the /etc/X11/xorg.conf has solved the problem 2006/9/4, stan : > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 11:52:46PM +0200, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > > Is there a way to change the gdm resolution (login screen). It's a > little > > bit low for me and I need 1280x1024 > > thanks > > Doesn't kdm just use the X settings? If so, you can fix this in your > X config file. > > -- > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. > (Dennis Ritchie) > -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 22:55:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE3D16A4DE for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA85643D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:55:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Sep 2006 22:55:48 -0000 Received: from p54A7D590.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.12]) [84.167.213.144] by mail.gmx.net (mp035) with SMTP; 04 Sep 2006 00:55:48 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <44FB5D60.3080501@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:55:28 +0200 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: joystick as mouse? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:55:50 -0000 I managed to convince moused that my USB joystick, a Logitech WingMan Extreme Digital 3D on /dev/uhid0 (3 axis, throttle, 8 buttons and a HUD switch), is actually a mouse. Of course the mouse cursor acts absolutely insane when I touch the joystick. But it shows that it is possible. My question is, is there some kind of way to write a profile for moused such as the intellimouse and microsoft profiles to tell moused how to read the joystick input? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 22:57:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53C716A4DA for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [202.89.146.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D24C43D67 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:57:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C07A5643B; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:57:20 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:57:20 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Conrad Bellman Message-ID: <20060903225720.GA84581@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <88cad3b50609031537y1c5ae045wfeebe5d8cfdd8514@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <88cad3b50609031537y1c5ae045wfeebe5d8cfdd8514@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Conrad(CB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:57:21 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 03:37:47PM -0700, Conrad Bellman wrote: > To Whom It May Concern:: > I am interest in downloading & installing freebsd, but I can not find the > links to download the two disks, I am hopeing someone could help with with > the nlinks for downloading trhe 2 disks, please & thank you, I am anxious to > get involved with this, but as you can see I am a newby, The latest release announcement is at: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/announce.html There are quite a few FTP servers listed as having the release and you should be able to dig around in them to look for the ISO image you are interested in. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When all else fails, RTFM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 23:11:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE84516A4DF for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (114-103-74-65.gci.net [65.74.103.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B03443D46 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 28E184543; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:11:00 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Alaska Paradise To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:10:45 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3676544.kSzxoiBuQi"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609031510.58852.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Subject: Dump to DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:11:02 -0000 --nextPart3676544.kSzxoiBuQi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Can someone give me a bit of help? I'm trying to dump /user to multiple DVD= 's=20 and keep getting a write error when the DVD runs out of space. I need an=20 example of the proper command. I think I need to add file size to the=20 command, but I'm not quite sure how to do it. I don't normally use DVD's so= =20 this is a bit new to me. TIA Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart3676544.kSzxoiBuQi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE+2ECp5D0B1NlT4URAsjlAJ47m9T9EX6xnYXNwic9dl4o/YXIXwCeKM7A uoCbwYFmghnL3g+RZxXogCQ= =np0l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3676544.kSzxoiBuQi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 23:27:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCE616A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D455643D67 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4020E58823; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3DE1083BC5; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GK1Mu-0001VT-00; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:27:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:27:12 -0400 From: stan To: Beech Rintoul Message-ID: <20060903232712.GA5777@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200609031510.58852.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609031510.58852.beech@alaskaparadise.com> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 19:25:12 up 139 days, 20:30, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump to DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:27:21 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 03:10:45PM -0800, Beech Rintoul wrote: > Can someone give me a bit of help? I'm trying to dump /user to multiple DVD's > and keep getting a write error when the DVD runs out of space. I need an > example of the proper command. I think I need to add file size to the > command, but I'm not quite sure how to do it. I don't normally use DVD's so > this is a bit new to me. > What command are you using? tar? dump? ..... -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 23:29:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903F116A4E2 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E172643D53 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:29:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541A59D8A3 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C381083BC5 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GK1PC-0001Xn-00 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:29:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:29:34 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20060903232934.GB5777@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 19:25:12 up 139 days, 20:30, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: New machine, mouse scroll wheel not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:29:36 -0000 I just set up a new 6 CURRENT machine with xorg, and KDE. The scroll wheel on my mouse does not seem to be scrolling anything. I have the follwinf lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection The mose itself works OK, bith in X/KDE, and in the consoles. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 3 23:56:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84B616A4DD for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78FA943D45 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:56:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 24845 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2006 23:54:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2ToHOG4QyrliYw3ERvnZV+hqO7Jo3cl+njfytffjFxbSitB+Mwht7sBfxZsQpezDdo9GnfI4rn6o0j9Wsa9+VcLie0N7BHEcKOiAdv8TRy5jtmhX/FjPQrmDaSAFKMheXo72P7m7EjcDw0U+DUd6SSZToFM8Y4hdTpArI6j274U= ; Message-ID: <20060903235417.24843.qmail@web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.17.32.58] by web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:54:17 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Fwd: Re: A question about programming RS-232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:56:10 -0000 --- stan wrote: > Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:49:51 -0400 > From: stan > To: backyard > Subject: Re: A question about programming RS-232 > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 01:39:00PM -0700, backyard > wrote: > > > > > > --- stan wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 11:26:04PM +0600, ?????? > > > ????? wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > I have a question I can't deal myself. > > > > And nobody can help me in resolving my > problem. > > > > > > > > Problem: > > > > I have a hand-made device, I want to control > from > > > FreeBSD 6.1 > > > > (I am porting this application from Windows > > > equivalent). > > > > But I don't know, in what device /dev/ I > should > > > write to get reults. > > > > I tryed to write bytes into /dev/ttyd0, > > > /dev/cuad0, but got nothing. :( > > > > > > > Start off by using minicom (or cu) to talk to > the > > > device. By doing > > > this you can sort through baud > rate/parity,hardware > > > issues. > > > > > > Once you have that working, then move on to > code. > > > > > > -- > > > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to > > > understand the simplicity. > > > (Dennis Ritchie) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > does your handmade device use RS-232? If its PIC > or > > some such microcontroller based they claim to be > > RS-232 compliant but they do not always use +12V > and > > -12V levels. MAX-232 chips can correct this. I > assume > > if it worked in windows for you this might not the > > case, but you never know. > > I'm not the orignal poster on this. > > -- > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to > understand the simplicity. > (Dennis Ritchie) > oops must have clicked a little too quick on this one -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 00:58:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C4516A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53402.mail.yahoo.com (web53402.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D04343D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:58:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 59533 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 00:58:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GdFQ00/X2CVhpP8ryvIxcmdJozSF5k0jkXKIlnf4X2LVIE/7B4DdN29Lt7MyR/8wj+8XwPkomGa0GWhvgAvdliNll59CqXCF9shb1tlB1H3S5wWcf+ALjpWCcUyd3xQlQf8rwIljntOhY5lMiDUtuXc9QSeD+BjchJtqtvfz4GA= ; Message-ID: <20060904005836.59531.qmail@web53402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.84.1.2] by web53402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:58:36 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:58:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060831035416.GA95969@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gerard Seibert , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:58:37 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:59:14PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: >> I wish i could, but i dont have physical access to the machine - its >> in a remote location with no serial console. So if anything gets >> messed up during an upgrade, im in a hell of a lot of trouble. > >> I dont know when i'll be able to fix this problem so until i can upgrade >> the OS i at least want to keep the rest of it up to date. >The packages are compiled for 4.11-stable and do not work >with systems >much older than this (e.g. 4.8, as you discovered). You might >have >more luck compiling from the ports collection, although that >too only >supports 4.11 officially (and modern releases, of course). Thanks, i CAN compile from the ports collection (i never wanted to use packages). Its MANAGING this that i cant do. I can update my ports tree fine, and i can go into ports directory and do a make install, sure. But i cant do portsversion to see what needs updating, and i cant do pkg_info to find out what versions i have. So doing something like upgrading Perl and all it's dependencies--wow what a nightmare that would be. But for another way of fixing the problem, is there any trustworthy way i can do a clean install of 6.1 on a box i dont have access to? I can backup everything offsite and ship a CD or an external drive to the facility, if there is some way i can be assured of getting back into the box after some install procedure is run by a tech there. Jen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 01:12:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BAA16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 694BB43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:12:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 21979 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2006 01:12:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.146.217.210) by smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.221) with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2006 01:12:19 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20060903173729.GA30869@ns.museum.rain.com> References: <20060903173729.GA30869@ns.museum.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:12:17 -0500 To: James Long X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man page bug in mv(1) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:12:23 -0000 On 3 September 2006, at 12:37, James Long wrote: > The man page mv(1) states: > > "It is an error for either the source operand or the destination path > to specify a directory unless both do." > > > However: > > mv file /tmp/ > > works. Am I reading things wrong, or is the man page incorrect? I think what it means is you cannot move a directory to a file. You also can't move a file so it becomes a directory. FOr example: snowy:~ hackmiester$ mv blah blahdir/ mv: rename blah to blahdir/: No such file or directory You are actually moving the file INTO the directory, not trying to make a file BE a directory. See what I mean? > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 01:16:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D93616A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9452A43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8841F1A4D89; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D867D51603; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:16:51 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" Message-ID: <20060904011651.GA8058@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060831035416.GA95969@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060904005836.59531.qmail@web53402.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060904005836.59531.qmail@web53402.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Gerard Seibert , FreeBSD-Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:16:53 -0000 --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 05:58:36PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:59:= 14PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: >=20 > >> I wish i could, but i dont have physical access to the machine - its > >> in a remote location with no serial console. So if anything gets=20 > >> messed up during an upgrade, im in a hell of a lot of trouble. > >=20 > >> I dont know when i'll be able to fix this problem so until i can upgra= de > >> the OS i at least want to keep the rest of it up to date. >=20 > >The packages are compiled for 4.11-stable and do not work >with systems > >much older than this (e.g. 4.8, as you discovered). You might >have > >more luck compiling from the ports collection, although that >too only > >supports 4.11 officially (and modern releases, of course). > Thanks, i CAN compile from the ports collection (i never wanted to use > packages). Its MANAGING this that i cant do. I can update my ports tree > fine, and i can go into ports directory and do a make install, sure. >=20 > But i cant do portsversion to see what needs updating, and i cant do > pkg_info to find out what versions i have. So doing something like Why not (in both cases)? > upgrading Perl and all it's dependencies--wow what a nightmare that > would be. >=20 > But for another way of fixing the problem, is there any trustworthy > way i can do a clean install of 6.1 on a box i dont have access to? I > can backup everything offsite and ship a CD or an external drive to > the facility, if there is some way i can be assured of getting back into > the box after some install procedure is run by a tech there. You can do an 'upgrade install' from the install media...it's something you should definitely practise on a local system first though (not because it's hard, but so you know what you're doing). Kris --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE+36DWry0BWjoQKURAisbAKCW6lZCfYfMAZos5/2ZV/i8b7HLEQCglMpH Q53AVoTu+dRU1jxPSVqlgxE= =g2kK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 01:18:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3B516A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (114-103-74-65.gci.net [65.74.103.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158E843D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:18:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 576E94543; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:18:26 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Alaska Paradise To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:17:58 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200609031510.58852.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20060903232712.GA5777@teddy.fas.com> In-Reply-To: <20060903232712.GA5777@teddy.fas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1214675.IFCAIVJaSe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609031718.23259.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: stan Subject: Re: Dump to DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:27 -0000 --nextPart1214675.IFCAIVJaSe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 03 September 2006 15:27, stan wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 03:10:45PM -0800, Beech Rintoul wrote: > > Can someone give me a bit of help? I'm trying to dump /user to multiple > > DVD's and keep getting a write error when the DVD runs out of space. I > > need an example of the proper command. I think I need to add file size = to > > the command, but I'm not quite sure how to do it. I don't normally use > > DVD's so this is a bit new to me. > > What command are you using? tar? dump? ..... Dump.... dump -0au -L -f /dev/acd0 /usr It used to just prompt me to feed in another DVD. Now it errors out when th= e=20 DVD is full. =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:24:12 -0000 hello every one! I have just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE,but I cannot su as root by telnet or ssh,why this happen? FreeBSD is really safe maybe, How can I su as root from remote? thanks!! best regards!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 01:31:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44E816A4E5 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53412.mail.yahoo.com (web53412.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54B1043D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:31:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 39147 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 01:31:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=llzuPebbo3w9Jyq80ves/vIh+9L8Z898iP2J/m9FjgcMiR7R6a8MFMwc/LxRzX8wLJB7aNNbf5R9MH/WiKX0aPwVS7iaq383oLMVGXu178SJctwxlQmrOvLWmgO165rjs+HqCJQR5KS6M9M741hkqpIgVR22aV0syLPLx0yE3JY= ; Message-ID: <20060904013118.39145.qmail@web53412.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.84.1.2] by web53412.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:31:18 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:31:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060904011651.GA8058@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gerard Seibert , FreeBSD-Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:31:20 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 05:58:36PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:59:14PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > >> Thanks, i CAN compile from the ports collection (i never wanted to use >> packages). Its MANAGING this that i cant do. I can update my ports tree >> fine, and i can go into ports directory and do a make install, sure. >> >> But i cant do portsversion to see what needs updating, and i cant do >> pkg_info to find out what versions i have. So doing something like >Why not (in both cases)?As i posted in the original message - the main question i was asking - both of these are broken in some way. Reposting: --- For example if i try to run "portversion" i get: undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error from Ruby (ruby 1.8.5 is up to date on the system). If i try to run "pkg_info" I quickly get: pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' (i googled for similar problems and there were a few other reports of this, with other packages, but no suggestion of how to fix them.) --- I manually updated Ruby and portupgrade (by updating my ports tree and going into their /usr/ports directories and doing make install) with no change. This is what i am trying to solve. Thanks. Jen --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 01:31:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A02516A4E1 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout07-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FF3F43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:31:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 6077 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2006 01:31:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.146.217.210) by smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.233) with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2006 01:31:56 -0000 In-Reply-To: <44FB1ACC.6040404@enabled.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> <44FB1ACC.6040404@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <712C8F83-C27F-4A98-8A1B-5C6A7DB5CA74@hackmiester.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:31:52 -0500 To: Noah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Philip Q , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:31:58 -0000 On 3 September 2006, at 13:11, Noah wrote: > Philip Q wrote: >> Noah wrote, On 4/09/06 3.58 a: >>> this command also meets my coolness requirements. >>> oldsys # tar -C /var/www -cf - . | ssh newsys tar -C /var/www -xvf - >> >> Which is almost /exactly/ what Chad recommended to you... > > > kinda. this is the syntax I was looking for. I find it incredibly interesting that, while you REFUSE SPECIFY exactly what you want, you find it necessary to deem certain commands unacceptable! No one is going to freaking spoon feed you this stuff! What you just pasted will do basically THE SAME THING as tarring and scping it over, so what's the problem? The only difference is there is no intermediate tar file. If that's what you wanted, why can't you just SAY THAT?! > > Cheers, > > Noah > > >> >> -Phil > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 01:33:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9774016A4E1 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.cross@averageadmins.com) Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EEA43D83 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.cross@averageadmins.com) Received: from [172.16.0.101] (unverified [24.117.52.220]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 73091036 for multiple; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:33:14 -0700 Message-ID: <44FB8251.8070700@averageadmins.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:33:05 -0500 From: Jeff Cross User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: armstrong adam References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NotAscii: charset=gb2312 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 5, First 122, in=35, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.117.52.220 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can I su as root over telnet or ssh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:33:20 -0000 armstrong adam wrote: > hello every one! > > I have just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE,but I cannot su as root by > telnet or ssh,why this happen? FreeBSD is really safe maybe, How can I > su as root from remote? > thanks!! > > > best regards!! > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Is the user you are logging on as in the wheel group? I believe it has to be before you can su to root. Jeff Cross http://www.averageadmins.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 01:34:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277D816A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3045043D6E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:34:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: (qmail 6752 invoked by uid 0); 4 Sep 2006 01:34:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (216.186.148.249) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 4 Sep 2006 01:34:38 -0000 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060903161335.0989f158@lariat.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060903161335.0989f158@lariat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3D0435E8-D5E3-4E0E-AF28-402A4C80A285@hiwaay.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:34:36 -0500 To: Brett Glass X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Best gigabit network interface for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:34:40 -0000 On Sep 3, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Brett Glass wrote: > I have some Intel "em" interfaces available to me, but have been > told that while the driver is well supported they are quirky and > not the best choice. I have an em built into the MB of a Dell PowerEdge 400SC and have no complaints. It will send/receive data at whatever the discs will support, typically 40+ MB/sec, 55 MB/sec to/from some locations on disk. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 01:35:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BB216A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE2643D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:35:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k841Z9dJ002555 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FB82AE.3000908@enabled.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:34:38 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> <44FB1ACC.6040404@enabled.com> <712C8F83-C27F-4A98-8A1B-5C6A7DB5CA74@hackmiester.com> In-Reply-To: <712C8F83-C27F-4A98-8A1B-5C6A7DB5CA74@hackmiester.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Philip Q , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:35:11 -0000 hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: > > On 3 September 2006, at 13:11, Noah wrote: > >> Philip Q wrote: >>> Noah wrote, On 4/09/06 3.58 a: >>>> this command also meets my coolness requirements. >>>> oldsys # tar -C /var/www -cf - . | ssh newsys tar -C /var/www -xvf - >>> >>> Which is almost /exactly/ what Chad recommended to you... >> >> >> kinda. this is the syntax I was looking for. > > I find it incredibly interesting that, while you REFUSE SPECIFY > exactly what you want, you find it necessary to deem certain commands > unacceptable! No one is going to freaking spoon feed you this stuff! > What you just pasted will do basically THE SAME THING as tarring and > scping it over, so what's the problem? The only difference is there is > no intermediate tar file. If that's what you wanted, why can't you > just SAY THAT?! > cool. it is different though. ssh and scp are quite different syntax. thank you. cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 02:10:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA7116A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9E443D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:09:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool3.panix.com (mailspool3.panix.com [166.84.1.78]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651F613A8B9; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59608D2DCE4; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GK3uQ-0002WZ-00; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:09:58 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:09:58 -0400 From: stan To: Beech Rintoul Message-ID: <20060904020958.GA9563@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200609031510.58852.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20060903232712.GA5777@teddy.fas.com> <200609031718.23259.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609031718.23259.beech@alaskaparadise.com> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 22:06:28 up 139 days, 23:11, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump to DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:10:00 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 05:17:58PM -0800, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Sunday 03 September 2006 15:27, stan wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 03:10:45PM -0800, Beech Rintoul wrote: > > > Can someone give me a bit of help? I'm trying to dump /user to multiple > > > DVD's and keep getting a write error when the DVD runs out of space. I > > > need an example of the proper command. I think I need to add file size to > > > the command, but I'm not quite sure how to do it. I don't normally use > > > DVD's so this is a bit new to me. > > > > What command are you using? tar? dump? ..... > > Dump.... dump -0au -L -f /dev/acd0 /usr > > It used to just prompt me to feed in another DVD. Now it errors out when the > DVD is full. > Hmm, the man page says that the -a option (which you are using), should do just that.. odd. Have you played with teh -s option? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 02:12:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E3216A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamarmstrong59@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s31.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s31.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A49D43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:12:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamarmstrong59@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.229.39]) by bay0-omc1-s31.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:12:31 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:12:30 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.229.220 by by110fd.bay110.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:12:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.5.1.64] X-Originating-Email: [adamarmstrong59@hotmail.com] X-Sender: adamarmstrong59@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <44FB8251.8070700@averageadmins.com> From: "armstrong adam" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:12:26 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2006 02:12:30.0769 (UTC) FILETIME=[938ED210:01C6CFC7] Cc: Subject: Re: how can I su as root over telnet or ssh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:12:31 -0000 yes,the user logging on is in the wheel group, any suggestion is appreciated!! >From: Jeff Cross >To: armstrong adam >CC: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: how can I su as root over telnet or ssh? >Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:33:05 -0500 > >armstrong adam wrote: > > hello every one! > > > > I have just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE,but I cannot su as root by > > telnet or ssh,why this happen? FreeBSD is really safe maybe, How can I > > su as root from remote? > > thanks!! > > > > > > best regards!! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > >Is the user you are logging on as in the wheel group? I believe it has >to be before you can su to root. > >Jeff Cross >http://www.averageadmins.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 02:17:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1F716A4DE; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5227043D46; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:17:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4050291AF8; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:17:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82408-04; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1046) id DB11E291AFC; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:17:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05E3291AF8; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:17:28 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:17:28 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@hub.org To: Oliver Fromme In-Reply-To: <200608171803.k7HI3Mfr069265@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <20060903225016.I82634@hub.org> References: <200608171803.k7HI3Mfr069265@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: scrappy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSDstats v3.0 - The Security Rewrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:17:38 -0000 On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Oliver Fromme wrote: > (1) When run for the first time, you get an error message: > : not found > That's because a few bogus spaces after the backslash in > the line containing the chmod command. Those trailing > spaces should be removed. I suppose I don't need to send > a PR for that. :-) 'k, that one is/was fixed ... > (2) Some people aborted the inital "sleep 900" (because > of the above-mentioned error message, or other reasons), > then restarted the script. In this case there is no sleep, > and the submission _seems_ to be successful (no negative > feedback), but it isn't. > > One way to improve the situation would be to check the > mtime on the /var/db/bsdstats file. If it's younger than > 900 seconds, a sleep is required. For example, something > like this piece of shell code (untested): > > FILETIME=$( stat -f %m $id_token_file ) > NOW=$( date +%s ) > if [ $(( $NOW - 900 )) -le $FILETIME ]; then > SLEEPTIME=$(( 900 - ($NOW - $FILETIME) )) > echo "Token key is younger than 15 minutes!" > echo "Sleeping $SLEEPTIME seconds, please wait." > sleep $SLEEPTIME > fi Code tested, and committed ... thanks ... > (3) Some sites require the use of a proxy for HTTP access. > Such sites usually have an entry in /etc/make.conf, so the > ports can fetch their distfiles: > > FETCH_ENV= FTP_PROXY=http://proxy.my.site:3128 \ > HTTP_PROXY=http://proxy.my.site:3128 > > The bsdstats script could easily pick up that entry and set > the environment variables appropriatly. This line at the > beginning of the script should be sufficient: > > export $( make -V FETCH_ENV 2>/dev/null ) 'k, that one could be a problem, since adding that line produces: # /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics MACHTYPE SSH_CLIENT USER MAIL SHLVL VENDOR HOME SSH_TTY PAGER GROUP LOGNAME BLOCKSIZE TERM PATH REMOTEHOST HOST SHELL OSTYPE PWD SSH_CONNECTION FTP_PASSIVE_MODE HOSTTYPE EDITOR Token key is younger than 15 minutes! Sleeping 361 seconds, please wait. Is there a better way of doing it that it would be silent? > (4) Some sites have a proxy that requires authentication. > It is possible to include the password in the FETCH_ENV > entry in /etc/make.conf, but it's usually not a good idea > to do that, because you shouldn't write passwords to files > that are world-readable. > > That problem could be solved in different ways. One way > would be a periodic.conf setting that instructs the script > not to try to submit the data, but instead just print a > reminder to the admin that he should run the monthly script > manually (or print that reminder automatically when the > submission fails because the proxy denies access). > When the admin runs the script manually (which could be > detected by "test -t 0", i.e. stdin is a terminal), it > could ask for the HTTP proxy password and then set the > HTTP_PROXY_AUTH variable appropriately (see fetch(3)). 'k, this one has been brought up, and was something that I am hoping to address once I get back online properly this week ... > (5) Some machines might not be able to access the web at > all. For example, I'm right now working on a farm of 35 > machines which don't have internet access, not even via > a proxy. I can connect to them via ssh/scp (port 22) from > a management machine, and that management machine only has > web access via a proxy. > > It would be nice to be able to request token keys on behalf > of those 35 servers from the management machine, transfer > them to the servers, run the data gathering script on the > servers (putting it into a file instead of submitting it > directyl), copy the results to the management machine and > finally submit them from there. That's pretty complicated, > but I'm afraid I haven't gotten a better idea so far. :-( Actually, this is one that we have discussed, and believe we have a solution for already, I just have to sit down and code this one ... And I think it might actually act as a way of dealing with (4) as well ... We're goin ot have a 'use_email' setting ... what will happen is as follows: Initial Install / Run: Email is sent to root containing IDTOKEN= as generated by host, root forwards that to rpt@bsdstats.org, rpt@bsdstats.org sends back KEY= value to be put in /var/db/bsdstats (manual cut-n-paste) ... script is re-run a second time, submits report values to root, root forwards that to rpt@bsdstats.org ... Subsequent Runs: Email is sent to root containing report values, root forwards that to rpt@bsdstats.org Now, in theory, root could have a filter on it that 'if subject = bsdstats report, auto-forward to rpt@bsdstats.org', but that would be totally up to the admin whether they wanted to do each report manually or not ... > (6) All of the statistics on the web page are sorted by percentages. > It would be nice to be able to click on a column header and have the > table sorted by that value. That would be especially useful for the > release statistics and the country statistics. That is all major work in progress ... my first goal was to get data into the database, and reporting in place (and improve the script based on feedback like above) ... improving the stats is goal two :) > (If the PHP sources and a database export were publicly > available, I would have taken a shot at implementing it.) Antony is working on site design and such, but if you are interested in helping out with building reports, and have time, we'd be happy for the extra help :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 02:19:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0026B16A510 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [202.89.146.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8114343D8C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:19:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3CDA25642F; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:19:18 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:19:18 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: armstrong adam Message-ID: <20060904021918.GA86038@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <44FB8251.8070700@averageadmins.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can I su as root over telnet or ssh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:19:20 -0000 On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 10:12:26AM +0800, armstrong adam wrote: > yes,the user logging on is in the wheel group, You should add the user to `wheel' via /etc/group, and not via the login-group. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beer. Now there's a temporary solution." - Homer Simpson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 02:21:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB9316A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D4F43D6A for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:21:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B157C291B00; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:21:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88170-08; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1046) id A54D0291B02; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:21:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9B7291B01; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:21:22 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:21:22 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@hub.org To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <44E0918A.4000300@utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <20060903232053.T82634@hub.org> References: <20060814100913.S7522@ganymede.hub.org> <44E0918A.4000300@utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats v3.0 - The Security Rewrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:21:35 -0000 On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Marc, thanks for all your hard work on these issues. > > One small change needs to be made. The pkg-message file reads, at its end: > o view current statistics, go to: > http://bsdstats.hub.org > > That needs to be changed to http://www.bsdstst.org/ > > This patch will fix it. > > --- pkg-message.orig Mon Aug 14 10:02:29 2006 > +++ pkg-message Mon Aug 14 10:02:51 2006 > @@ -10,6 +10,6 @@ > /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics > > To view current statistics, go to: > - http://bsdstats.hub.org > + http://www.bsdstats.org > ******************** Fixed, thanks ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 02:29:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E5A16A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:29:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feelingwei@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C9243D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:29:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from feelingwei@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1130624nfc for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:29:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=m1UzXLDg6HqcDF5ZOTGSxaHGArsIW52jCMvKmwSX8Kp4I6JP7exiAf3RBxx+t0uSk4Yn0nYBqEtvcdnQOSENp7eCFNnCcaEyBAzksrS0lcs4s67dxpM+TFslfbyUXNSewt7B/809QiLJ1ehkZfgDFioTYXK8h5zDP0iKxvAP638= Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr6093459nfi; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.12.2 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:29:24 +1000 From: "Wei Hu" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Unicode support on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:29:26 -0000 When will Freebsd support unicode? Freebsd 7? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 02:45:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8B316A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C16CC43D53 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:45:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 18525 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2006 02:45:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.146.217.210) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2006 02:45:14 -0000 In-Reply-To: <44FB82AE.3000908@enabled.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> <44FB1ACC.6040404@enabled.com> <712C8F83-C27F-4A98-8A1B-5C6A7DB5CA74@hackmiester.com> <44FB82AE.3000908@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <40100EC0-B71A-4671-946A-FCA371E85B4B@hackmiester.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:45:06 -0500 To: Noah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:45:17 -0000 On 3 September 2006, at 20:34, Noah wrote: > hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: >> >> I find it incredibly interesting that, while you REFUSE SPECIFY >> exactly what you want, you find it necessary to deem certain >> commands unacceptable! No one is going to freaking spoon feed you >> this stuff! What you just pasted will do basically THE SAME THING >> as tarring and scping it over, so what's the problem? The only >> difference is there is no intermediate tar file. If that's what >> you wanted, why can't you just SAY THAT?! >> > > cool. it is different though. ssh and scp are quite different > syntax. thank you. Obviously they are different syntax, but the two commands posted give you the same end result. Why are you rejecting the syntax?! > > cheers, > > Noah > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 03:00:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACF816A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A588243D4C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:00:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k8430F1X006216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FB969F.6060100@enabled.com> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:59:43 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> <44FB1ACC.6040404@enabled.com> <712C8F83-C27F-4A98-8A1B-5C6A7DB5CA74@hackmiester.com> <44FB82AE.3000908@enabled.com> <40100EC0-B71A-4671-946A-FCA371E85B4B@hackmiester.com> In-Reply-To: <40100EC0-B71A-4671-946A-FCA371E85B4B@hackmiester.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:00:18 -0000 hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: > > On 3 September 2006, at 20:34, Noah wrote: > >> hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: >>> >>> I find it incredibly interesting that, while you REFUSE SPECIFY >>> exactly what you want, you find it necessary to deem certain >>> commands unacceptable! No one is going to freaking spoon feed you >>> this stuff! What you just pasted will do basically THE SAME THING as >>> tarring and scping it over, so what's the problem? The only >>> difference is there is no intermediate tar file. If that's what you >>> wanted, why can't you just SAY THAT?! >>> >> >> cool. it is different though. ssh and scp are quite different >> syntax. thank you. > > Obviously they are different syntax, but the two commands posted give > you the same end result. Why are you rejecting the syntax?! > Hi there, I never saw any syntax for the scp way of doing it. Also after I received the ssh command I was happy to see that moving files could be performed on one line and want to share it with the list and soon google. please lets drop the issue it seems too nitpicky. cheers, Noah >> >> cheers, >> >> Noah >> >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 03:15:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C8016A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A29043D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:15:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1GK4vJ25Xv-0002pV; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:14:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:20:25 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: dick hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> Message-ID: <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: fbsdq Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:15:03 -0000 On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: > I have a 3-part disk: > (a) XP for games > (b) FreeBSD-6.1 (my main OS) > (c) FreeBSD-6.1 (a backup) > > I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for > studying this OS. I burned the DVD. Will it install solaris on this > third partition without trouble? Will I be able to continue to use the > FreeBSD bootloader or do I need to isntall sol's grub? > > The documentation on SUN and solaris is huge. Many many pdf files.. > Are there better ways then these pdf's? Good books on solaris 10? > Starting points on the net? I ask here because I know lot of you guys > here have also installed solaris 10 (at least I remember seeing it here) > > Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of experience > with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. I did something like that (WIN2k instead of XP) last year - no problem. You might feel better if you had some kind of bootloader disk at hand (something like GAG (my favourite), grub or whatever). At that time I was very disappointed of solaris: - very slow - very old versions of software Tell me if that has improved. I decided to test Debian instead, and am very satisfied with it. Regards, Uli. > > -- > dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE > ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 ++ The Power to Serve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 03:16:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA2E16A4E2 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E804243D64 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:16:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (69-12-157-6.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [69.12.157.6]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k843GdBa026364; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:16:39 -0700 From: Oliver Iberien To: "Atom Powers" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:16:39 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200609030901.40330.odilist@sonic.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609032016.39389.odilist@sonic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:16:57 -0000 Yes, you'd think, but no. I got a $50 GeForce 6200 LE/256M card and it works, as long as I use the proprietary driver. With the standard nv driver that xorgconfig came up with, it was just as bad as the Radeon. The nvidia config utility did not add extra lines to the config file, incidentally. Thanks, Oliver On Sunday 03 September 2006 09:12, Atom Powers wrote: > I don't know of any reason a less-that-eight-year-old Radeon card > couldn't support that resolution. I think you only need <64MB video > memory to support that resolution at 32bit color. Some monitors need > extra settings in the config line though. > > I have recently tested 1680x1050,32bit color with Nvidia 6600, 6800, > 7900 cards. (On MS Win, linux though. ) > On 9/3/06, Oliver Iberien wrote: > > As usual, as soon as I post, I discover the correct search string to get > > me to the answer: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions%40freebsd.org/msg147148.htm > >l > > > > This poster even bought the same monitor I did. Does anyone know: Will > > newer nvidia cards generally work at this resolution? It seems safest > > just to get the one he did. > > > > > I have a new monitor with the following specs: > > > Horiz 31-87 kHz > > > Vert 56-75 Hz > > > 1680x1050@60Hz > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 03:22:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5AD16A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7975543D64 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:22:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1GK52b04eu-0003pm; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:22:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:23:05 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Wei Hu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060904052033.O1556@www.pukruppa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unicode support on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:22:32 -0000 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Wei Hu wrote: > When will Freebsd support unicode? Freebsd 7? What exactly do you want be supported? In my /usr/share/locale/ I can see some UTF-8 directories. Regards, Uli. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 03:46:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0BD16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13D543D4C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:46:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GK5Pu-0002GV-2c for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:46:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:46:33 -0600 To: fbsdq X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:46:35 -0000 On Sep 3, 2006, at 9:20 PM, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: > >> I have a 3-part disk: >> (a) XP for games >> (b) FreeBSD-6.1 (my main OS) >> (c) FreeBSD-6.1 (a backup) >> >> I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for >> studying this OS. I burned the DVD. Will it install solaris on this >> third partition without trouble? Will I be able to continue to use >> the >> FreeBSD bootloader or do I need to isntall sol's grub? >> >> The documentation on SUN and solaris is huge. Many many pdf files.. >> Are there better ways then these pdf's? Good books on solaris 10? >> Starting points on the net? I ask here because I know lot of you guys >> here have also installed solaris 10 (at least I remember seeing it >> here) >> >> Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of >> experience >> with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. > I did something like that (WIN2k instead of XP) last year - no > problem. You might feel better if you had some kind of bootloader > disk at hand (something like GAG (my favourite), grub or whatever). > > At that time I was very disappointed of solaris: > - very slow > - very old versions of software > Tell me if that has improved. I decided to test Debian instead, and > am very satisfied with it. I am not sure about installing Solaris into an existing partition. The new U2 of Solaris 10 uses grub though. But I find Solaris 10 much faster than FreeBSD for some things (java, threaded apps, etc). It has its quirks and I am sure that FreeBSD has its advantages (for me I use FreeBSD on most of my servers but have a few Solaris 10 based ones for java, ZFS, etc). I am not trying to get into a mud- slinging match -- both are good. But I wanted to mention that Solaris is a very mature OS. It is a hyrbid BSD/SVR4 system in terms of commands (I believe in ancietnt history SunOS was a VSD variant that switched to a SVR4 variant when it became Solaris). And FreeBSD has the upper hand in my estimation in terms of normal userland stuff like an updated tar and update apps in many cases (userland utils) so a lot of things you normally do will be frustrating at first until you learn that he command flags are different on Solaris than on FreeBSD. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 03:48:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023E116A4E1 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7D443D5F for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GK5RY-0002IK-Hp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:48:16 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <44FB969F.6060100@enabled.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> <44FB1ACC.6040404@enabled.com> <712C8F83-C27F-4A98-8A1B-5C6A7DB5CA74@hackmiester.com> <44FB82AE.3000908@enabled.com> <40100EC0-B71A-4671-946A-FCA371E85B4B@hackmiester.com> <44FB969F.6060100@enabled.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:48:15 -0600 To: fbsdq Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:48:19 -0000 On Sep 3, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Noah wrote: > hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: >> >> On 3 September 2006, at 20:34, Noah wrote: >> >>> hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: >>>> >>>> I find it incredibly interesting that, while you REFUSE SPECIFY >>>> exactly what you want, you find it necessary to deem certain >>>> commands unacceptable! No one is going to freaking spoon feed >>>> you this stuff! What you just pasted will do basically THE SAME >>>> THING as tarring and scping it over, so what's the problem? The >>>> only difference is there is no intermediate tar file. If that's >>>> what you wanted, why can't you just SAY THAT?! >>>> >>> >>> cool. it is different though. ssh and scp are quite different >>> syntax. thank you. >> >> Obviously they are different syntax, but the two commands posted >> give you the same end result. Why are you rejecting the syntax?! >> > > Hi there, > > I never saw any syntax for the scp way of doing it. Also after I > received the ssh command I was happy to see that moving files could > be performed on one line you mean like % tar cf newfile.tar mydirtotar; scp newfile.tar user@remote.machine: ? that is one command line Chad > and want to share it with the list and soon google. > > please lets drop the issue it seems too nitpicky. > > cheers, > > Noah > > >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Noah >>> >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 04:02:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED41716A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamarmstrong59@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s32.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71C243D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:02:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamarmstrong59@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.229.44]) by bay0-omc3-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:02:48 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:02:48 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.229.220 by by110fd.bay110.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:02:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.5.1.64] X-Originating-Email: [adamarmstrong59@hotmail.com] X-Sender: adamarmstrong59@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20060904021918.GA86038@osiris.chen.org.nz> From: "armstrong adam" To: jonc@chen.org.nz Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:02:44 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2006 04:02:48.0363 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBF387B0:01C6CFD6] Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can I su as root over telnet or ssh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:02:49 -0000 It really woks!!thanks, but why this happen? which part of the document explain this? I browsed the documentation and cannot find it >From: Jonathan Chen >To: armstrong adam >CC: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: how can I su as root over telnet or ssh? >Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:19:18 +1200 > >On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 10:12:26AM +0800, armstrong adam wrote: > > yes,the user logging on is in the wheel group, > >You should add the user to `wheel' via /etc/group, and not via >the login-group. >-- >Jonathan Chen >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Beer. Now there's a temporary solution." > - Homer Simpson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 04:35:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F5716A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449F443D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k844Z0RS017372 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k844Z0J8017371 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:35:00 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: time to come clean... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:35:03 -0000 Folks, It's time to come clean and admit that parts/most of rsync are lost on my. The good-old-days when everybody trusted everybody on the net--when it was mostly just we geeks are way gone. Crackers, prob'ly 12-year-olds using DOS scripts, tried to crack my ns1 server. After that I upgraded to bind-9 and read [and enjoyed] DNS/BIND, *and* began using ssh. So a lot of my automatic backup programs stopped working. As thought.org grew from one machine to four, it became that much harder to tar and backup stuff. (I have automated some backups, but crudely. Now, after Friday's "trap 18", my first fatal ever, it's time to follow the backup system that Matthew suggested.) How can I automate the backup via rsync to other servers? I have a couple boxen out there miles remote; the rest are meters apart. If 'expect the unexpected' is any guide, now I *am* expecting. If it means a few days and 8 hours of typing, then that's just the price. (That I had a recent TaoEtc.tbz is a good sign; that it was in /usr/tmp _on_ tao is not a good sign... .) I've just installed/reinstaled rsync here on ns1.thought.org (aka "sage") and on zen.thought.org. I've fiddled with the rsyncd.conf on both FBSD systems. What I don't understand is how rsync, using ssh, gets past the secret password. If, say, I want to copy all of my www files from sage to zen, what do I put into /usr/local/etc/rsyncd.secrets? Let's say that rsyncd.secrets had: # User : pw root : abcd kline: wxyz Would this old snippet work as a starting place, exec'd by root: rsync --verbose --progress --stats --compress --rsh=/usr/local/bin/ssh --recursive --times --perms --links --delete \ --exclude "*bak" --exclude "*~" \ /usr/local/www/* zen.thought.org:/usr/local/www ?? Thanks for any clues. I have a lot of stuff tarballed, but it's time to do things right!! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 04:39:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0AA16A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C81C43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:39:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GK6FJ-0004QZ-Ms; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:39:41 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> References: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:39:40 -0600 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: time to come clean... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:39:42 -0000 On Sep 3, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Folks, > How can I automate the backup via rsync to other servers? I believe the default for rsync is to use ssh as a transport. That is how I am using it with ssh certificates. Read up on rsync and if you want to create some cron jobs that would be an easy automation. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 04:42:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B967416A4E5 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from overlord.navalradio.cl (overlord.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F8443D78 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:42:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (ppp108-110.static.internode.on.net [150.101.108.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by overlord.navalradio.cl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k844g8cL017110; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:42:11 -0400 (CLT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <44FBAEBB.4030705@webanoide.org> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:42:35 +1000 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andriy Babiy References: <200609021209.09378.ABabiy@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <200609021209.09378.ABabiy@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 201.236.67.146 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP-1022 laser printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:42:51 -0000 Andriy Babiy wrote: > Hello, > > Could anybody advise me on the HP-1022 laser printer? Does anyone have this > model working on the FreeBSD? I'm going to buy it, therefore I wanted to > check if there are any issues/problems about it. I found postings about "USB > port busy" problem, but guys didn't specify clearly the platform they used. > Especially, I'm interested in positive experiences. > Originally, I posted the question to freebsd-hardware, with no answer though. > Thank you for your time. This might come in handy: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1022 Cheers, Mikhail. -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: mikhailg@webanoide.org Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 04:44:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB1316A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDBC43D67 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:44:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [10.0.1.239] (ayla.wifi.int.ketralnis.com [10.0.1.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k844ivpq056174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> References: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3796734A-5434-44BA-8E53-B396E205151B@ketralnis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:44:53 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: time to come clean... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:44:58 -0000 > It's time to come clean and admit that parts/most of rsync are > lost on my. [...] > How can I automate the backup via rsync to other servers? Depending on the backup strategy that you want, I highly recommend rsnapshot (/usr/ports/sysutils/rsnapshot ). It handles most of the management of retaining past backups up to X days, X weeks, etc, and uses hardlinks to save space between the backups. So because it uses rsync, it uses the bandwidth of an incremental backup, but because it uses directory trees of hardlinks, each backup is completely restorable like a full backup. > I have > a couple boxen out there miles remote; the rest are meters apart. > If 'expect the unexpected' is any guide, now I *am* expecting. > If it means a few days and 8 hours of typing, then that's just > the price. (That I had a recent TaoEtc.tbz is a good sign; that > it was in /usr/tmp _on_ tao is not a good sign... .) > > I've just installed/reinstaled rsync here on ns1.thought.org (aka > "sage") and on zen.thought.org. I've fiddled with the rsyncd.conf on > both FBSD systems. What I don't understand is how rsync, using > ssh, gets past the secret password. If, say, I want to > copy all of my www files from sage to zen, what do I put > into /usr/local/etc/rsyncd.secrets? Let's say that rsyncd.secrets > had: > > # User : pw > root : abcd > kline: wxyz > > Would this old snippet work as a starting place, exec'd by root: > > > > rsync --verbose --progress --stats --compress --rsh=/usr/local/bin/ > ssh > --recursive --times --perms --links --delete \ > --exclude "*bak" --exclude "*~" \ > /usr/local/www/* zen.thought.org:/usr/local/www > > ?? > > Thanks for any clues. I have a lot of stuff tarballed, but it's > time to do things right!! > > gary > > > > > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public > service Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- David King Computer Programmer Ketralnis Systems From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 05:02:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDF116A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC6643D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:02:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k8452kU7017868; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k8452j5m017867; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:02:45 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Message-ID: <20060904050245.GB17752@thought.org> References: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: time to come clean... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:02:48 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 10:39:40PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Sep 3, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > How can I automate the backup via rsync to other servers? > > I believe the default for rsync is to use ssh as a transport. That > is how I am using it with ssh certificates. Read up on rsync and if > you want to create some cron jobs that would be an easy automation. > yeah, the default IS ssh, rsh-no-mo. what i want is to cron stuff exactly like Mathews's ideas. then at least, i'll have VERY recent synchronization .... iow:help me get this right; please. i have spent hours reading about rsync. my printserver (tao) is busted; the man pages are horrible, &c. gary > Chad > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 05:13:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA8C16A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karma@ez.pereslavl.ru) Received: from pier.botik.ru (pier.botik.ru [193.232.174.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94DA43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:13:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karma@ez.pereslavl.ru) Received: from ez.pereslavl.ru ([192.168.56.29]:55801) by pier.botik.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GK6mG-0003Sv-II for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:13:54 +0400 Message-ID: <44FBB65C.30707@ez.pereslavl.ru> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:15:08 +0400 From: Alexey Mikhailov User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060814) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44F5B851.9080701@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <44F5B851.9080701@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: apache22 Checksum mismatch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:13:58 -0000 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hi. > I'm trying to install apache22 on a 6.1 machine. > Here what I get since days: > >> => MD5 Checksum OK for apache22/httpd-2.2.3.tar.bz2. >> => SHA256 Checksum OK for apache22/httpd-2.2.3.tar.bz2. >> => MD5 Checksum mismatch for apache22/apr_dbd_mysql.rev-50.c. >> => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for apache22/apr_dbd_mysql.rev-50.c. >> ===> Giving up on fetching files: apache22/apr_dbd_mysql.rev-50.c >> apache22/apr_dbd_mysql.rev-50.c > > I've obviously tried deleting that file and refetching, but I always > end up the same. > Is it happening to everyone? > Any hint or plan to correct this? > If you trust to content of file "apache22/apr_dbd_mysql.rev-50.c" you can even use "make NO_CHECKSUM=1 install". But if I were at your place I tried to update "apache22" port and if this will happen again I would submit PR. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 05:17:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DF616A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A7B43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:17:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2491A4D9E; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 22:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EA70A51603; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:17:01 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" Message-ID: <20060904051701.GA11980@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060904011651.GA8058@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060904013118.39145.qmail@web53412.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060904013118.39145.qmail@web53412.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Gerard Seibert , FreeBSD-Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:17:03 -0000 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 06:31:18PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 05:58:= 36PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:59:14PM -0700, Dr. Jen= nifer Nussbaum wrote: > >=20 > >> Thanks, i CAN compile from the ports collection (i never wanted to use > >> packages). Its MANAGING this that i cant do. I can update my ports tr= ee > >> fine, and i can go into ports directory and do a make install, sure. > >>=20 > >> But i cant do portsversion to see what needs updating, and i cant do > >> pkg_info to find out what versions i have. So doing something like >=20 > >Why not (in both cases)?As i posted in the original message - the main q= uestion i was > asking - both of these are broken in some way. Reposting: >=20 > --- >=20 > For example if i try to run "portversion" i get: >=20 > undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass > /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error >=20 > from Ruby (ruby 1.8.5 is up to date on the system). pkgdb -f >=20 > If i try to run "pkg_info" I quickly get: >=20 > pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' >=20 > (i googled for similar problems and there were a few other reports >=20 > of this, with other packages, but no suggestion of how to fix them.) Deinstall the package that was built for a later version of FreeBSD. Kris --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE+7bNWry0BWjoQKURAsM/AJ4vfBzriwouThYwbeGujK9d9eU/AwCgxNpz c5hl4DSBYGSmEkSzoyX7Xeg= =23ve -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 06:06:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597F016A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E9143D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:06:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k8466lH1018159; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k8466lMD018158; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:06:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:06:47 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: David King Message-ID: <20060904060647.GC17752@thought.org> References: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> <3796734A-5434-44BA-8E53-B396E205151B@ketralnis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3796734A-5434-44BA-8E53-B396E205151B@ketralnis.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: time to come clean... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:06:51 -0000 On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 09:44:53PM -0700, David King wrote: > >It's time to come clean and admit that parts/most of rsync are > >lost on me. [...] > >How can I automate the backup via rsync to other servers? > > Depending on the backup strategy that you want, I highly recommend > rsnapshot (/usr/ports/sysutils/rsnapshot >). It handles most of the management of retaining past backups up > to X days, X weeks, etc, and uses hardlinks to save space between the > backups. So because it uses rsync, it uses the bandwidth of an > incremental backup, but because it uses directory trees of hardlinks, > each backup is completely restorable like a full backup. > One problem may be semantics. I'm not certain if I want directory /etc/* synchronized on servers A and B, or if I just want a 100%-guaranteed backup ... . Since I do 99% of stuff on tao, I want every other (possible) server to sync up my ~/* files on other machines. The build and config files I just want tar'd up and moved to, say, /usr/tmp/tao, /usr/tmp/sage, usr/tmp/zen, and so on. This stuff is what I would like done at least daily. I'll look at rsnapshot. A very big (*)++plus is that Dru wrote it. That mean it's thoroughly first rate. Around 10 hrs sleep in three days just don' cut it. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 06:11:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10CF16A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C64E43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:11:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1773208wxd for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:11:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=c+6iUo+o2u7hqZFVoCI8ZeN/WtJktdkO7ySKKu8SFXSVzKWoXnvwfjKO0d+hvprGGLPVjEsuZyIjkvRgquuB7brDQNwuqZVo18IbL/so15Qj7TBQTwpwY8yTrf9RT7lZMF29FEiVF/Qv3Gmdsz7a5lwwMDc7o2Gw2p4zkx7kWqw= Received: by 10.90.78.1 with SMTP id a1mr1031037agb; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.83.2 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 23:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72cf361e0609032309x71847158x88d7d53b7f8a6a32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:09:36 +0100 From: "Martin Hepworth" To: "Beech Rintoul" In-Reply-To: <200609031510.58852.beech@alaskaparadise.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200609031510.58852.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump to DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:11:21 -0000 Hi Well I know this is a bit OT, but amanda can do spit 'dump's over multilple tapes/dvds/whatever. That way you also have an index of what's on what media etc..... -- Martin On 9/4/06, Beech Rintoul wrote: > > Can someone give me a bit of help? I'm trying to dump /user to multiple > DVD's > and keep getting a write error when the DVD runs out of space. I need an > example of the proper command. I think I need to add file size to the > command, but I'm not quite sure how to do it. I don't normally use DVD's > so > this is a bit new to me. > > TIA > > Beech > -- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@alaskaparadise.com > /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise > \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 > X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 > / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 06:25:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31E216A4E1 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2260443D72 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:25:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-71-65-68-20.woh.res.rr.com [71.65.68.20]) by ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k846PnKX007335 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000301c6cfea$f6e55780$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "Dave" To: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:25:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: building and installing world on two separate machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:25:51 -0000 Hello, I have a machine that i want to upgrade from 5.x to 6.1. I've got a 6.1 world built on a much faster system and would like to just install it on this machine. I thought about nfs, but i have to drop to single user mode to do the make installworld and won't have nfs available. Is there a way i can install this already compiled world on the slower box without having to remake it? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 07:13:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2817C16A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C537143D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k847DSbc011935 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:13:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k847DSrg011934 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA17675; Mon, 4 Sep 06 00:08:19 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 06 00:08:19 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 07:13:41 -0000 Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. richtext builds OK, but as soon as I try to select "bold" it writes 4 lines to stderr and drops core: Message backtrace: bold bold OutOfBounds: offset 0, size 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 07:14:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1712B16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: from mail.thingy.com (wotsit.thingy.com [212.21.100.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E21743D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:14:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: (qmail 60270 invoked by uid 0); 4 Sep 2006 07:14:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.15?) (212.46.145.36) by wotsit3.thingy.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2006 07:14:13 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> References: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Howard Jones Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:13:57 +0100 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: time to come clean... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 07:14:16 -0000 On 4 Sep 2006, at 05:35, Gary Kline wrote: > > How can I automate the backup via rsync to other servers? If what you want is a backup to the disk on a remote system (rather than a tape drive or whatever), then have a look at rdiff-backup: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_rdiff_backup It uses the rsync protocol for sending only changed blocks, but saves the sent data to one side as well to make a 'transaction log'. You end up with a full copy of the current data (as you would with rsync) and a command to construct any previous version by applying the changes in reverse as necessary. I run this on a couple of dozen machines, mostly freebsd, with no problems. For things like web servers and DNS, the increments are pretty much that day's logs, so it is quite effective at saving space/bandwidth. The actual software is in ports (sysutils/rdiff-backup, I think). It also has the benefit that no special actions are needed to restore a single file - you just grab what you want. Even if you don't fancy the software, the article also has the info you need to get a reasonably safe root SSH (limited by IP, and the command that can be run, AND the public key) going with public key authentication, which will help for rsync as well. Howie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 07:22:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF3D16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mitch@mdickinson.org) Received: from mail.mdickinson.org (mdickinson.org [64.74.153.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08F343D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:22:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mitch@mdickinson.org) Received: from adsl-065-013-024-060.sip.asm.bellsouth.net ([65.13.24.60] helo=hydrogen.mdickinson.org) by mail.mdickinson.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GK8mT-0007j8-Gl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:22:05 -0400 Received: by hydrogen.mdickinson.org with local (Exim 4.63) id 1GK8mS-0009FE-BU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:22:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:22:04 -0400 From: Mitch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060904072203.GB58416@hydrogen.mdickinson.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000301c6cfea$f6e55780$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000301c6cfea$f6e55780$0200a8c0@satellite> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Sender: Mitch Subject: Re: building and installing world on two separate machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 07:22:08 -0000 On 09/04/06 02:25 AM, Dave wrote: > Hello, > I have a machine that i want to upgrade from 5.x to 6.1. I've got a 6.1 > world built on a much faster system and would like to just install it on > this machine. I thought about nfs, but i have to drop to single user mode > to do the make installworld and won't have nfs available. Is there a way i > can install this already compiled world on the slower box without having to > remake it? > Thanks. > Dave. NOTE: I've never tried anything like this. Hopefully someone else can chime in here. I think I would try this: - make buildworld; make buildkernel on the fast box - copy over /usr/src and /usr/obj - make installkernel on the target machine (assuming buildkernel and installkernel targets still exist..) - copy out /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster/mergemaster.sh to /usr/sbin/mergemaster (might not be needed) - reboot to single user and do the normal mergemaster -p; make installworld; mergemaster - reboot and hope for the best. Sounds good enough to me... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 07:27:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8506916A4E9 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6CC43D6D for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:27:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) id k847RItg060476; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:27:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 02:27:18 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Dave Message-ID: <20060904072718.GF93326@dan.emsphone.com> References: <000301c6cfea$f6e55780$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000301c6cfea$f6e55780$0200a8c0@satellite> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building and installing world on two separate machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 07:27:24 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 04), Dave said: > I have a machine that i want to upgrade from 5.x to 6.1. I've got a 6.1 > world built on a much faster system and would like to just install it on > this machine. I thought about nfs, but i have to drop to single user mode > to do the make installworld and won't have nfs available. Is there a way i > can install this already compiled world on the slower box without having to > remake it? There's nothing stopping you from doing an NFS mount in single-user mode. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 07:39:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E58716A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE71B43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:39:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36F52E031; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:39:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44FBD821.1050703@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:39:13 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Perry Hutchison References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 07:39:21 -0000 Perry Hutchison wrote: > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. What do you mean: which won't build? No problems here - I recently compiled both. They don't require the full gnome package. There is a commercial program, textmaker (www.softmaker.com), which I have found much better than Abiword in handling word documents, but I doubt it supports OpenDocument. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 08:00:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D62416A4EC for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) Received: from mail01.solnet.ch (mail01.solnet.ch [212.101.4.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CD243D5E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:00:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail01.solnet.ch Received: from mail01.solnet.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail01.solnet.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ZpfVm3RUq+fK; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:00:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [82.220.17.23]) by mail01.solnet.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9492262726; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:00:21 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <44FBDCF8.9020601@bsdunix.ch> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:59:52 +0200 From: Thomas User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: armstrong adam References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can I su as root over telnet or ssh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:00:38 -0000 Hi The manpage for su explains it. PAM is used to set the policy su(1) will use. In particular, by default only users in the ``wheel'' group can switch to UID 0 (``root''). Cheers, Thomas armstrong adam schrieb: > It really woks!!thanks, > but why this happen? > which part of the document explain this? > I browsed the documentation and cannot find it > > >> From: Jonathan Chen >> To: armstrong adam >> CC: questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: how can I su as root over telnet or ssh? >> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:19:18 +1200 >> >> On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 10:12:26AM +0800, armstrong adam wrote: >> > yes,the user logging on is in the wheel group, >> >> You should add the user to `wheel' via /etc/group, and not via >> the login-group. >> -- >> Jonathan Chen >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> "Beer. Now there's a temporary solution." >> - Homer Simpson > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 08:15:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC12D16A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:15:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBAA43D68 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:14:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E823F2E02A; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:14:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44FBE07D.9070004@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:14:53 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: time to come clean... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:15:19 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > I've just installed/reinstaled rsync here on ns1.thought.org (aka > "sage") and on zen.thought.org. I've fiddled with the rsyncd.conf on > both FBSD systems. What I don't understand is how rsync, using > ssh, gets past the secret password. If, say, I want to > copy all of my www files from sage to zen, what do I put > into /usr/local/etc/rsyncd.secrets? Let's say that rsyncd.secrets > had: > > # User : pw > root : abcd > kline: wxyz I'd use ssh keys, check the man page on how to specify keys for use with rsync/ssh. > rsync --verbose --progress --stats --compress --rsh=/usr/local/bin/ssh > --recursive --times --perms --links --delete \ > --exclude "*bak" --exclude "*~" \ > /usr/local/www/* zen.thought.org:/usr/local/www Careful with wildcards, they may be interpreted different than you expect. I made this script, the script assumes that paths are the same on source and destination: #!/bin/sh # RSYNC_USER is set as an environment variable or defaults to $USER RSYNC_USER=${RSYNC_USER:-$USER} # Exit if RSYNC_HOST not defined, there is no good default value. if [ -z $RSYNC_HOST ]; then echo "RSYNC_HOST undefined, no host to syncronize with."; exit; fi # RSYNC_PATH sets the path to be syncronized, defaults to $HOME # would be neat to check if path is absolute or else assume relative # to $HOME or set RSYNC_PATH as environment/command line variable if [ -z $1 ]; then RSYNC_PATH=$HOME; else RSYNC_PATH=$HOME/$1 fi # Syncronize folders echo "Syncing $RSYNC_PATH..." # Exclude patterns may be stored in .rsync in the home directory or # the sub directory being syncronized if [ -f $RSYNC_PATH/.rsync ]; then rsync -Cptuvaz --rsh="ssh" --exclude-from=$RSYNC_PATH/.rsync \ $RSYNC_PATH/ $RSYNC_USER\@$RSYNC_HOST:$RSYNC_PATH; else rsync -Cptuvaz --rsh="ssh" \ $RSYNC_PATH/ $RSYNC_USER\@$RSYNC_HOST:$RSYNC_PATH; fi exit; You put your exclude list in a file, .rsync (see the man-page), what to exclude may depend on the directory you're rsyncing. If you're automating this as a cron-job, then you may not have the environment variables set. I think that rsync defaults to ssh so the --rsh is really obsolete, but I like to make it explicit. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 08:19:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053DB16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za (sirian.hst.org.za [209.203.2.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF8743D58 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from localhost (localhost.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DB631D022 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:17:49 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sirian.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48597-01 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:17:49 +0200 (SAST) Received: by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0649D31D01E; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:17:49 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336DC31D00C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:17:48 +0200 (SAST) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:19:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <000301c6cfea$f6e55780$0200a8c0@satellite> In-Reply-To: <000301c6cfea$f6e55780$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609041019.10655.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on sirian.hst.org.za X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hst.org.za Subject: Re: building and installing world on two separate machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:19:35 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 08:25, Dave wrote: > Hello, > I have a machine that i want to upgrade from 5.x to 6.1. I've got a 6.1 > world built on a much faster system and would like to just install it on > this machine. I thought about nfs, but i have to drop to single user mode > to do the make installworld and won't have nfs available. Is there a way i > can install this already compiled world on the slower box without having to > remake it? I do this across all my servers, by nfs-mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj from the build server on the target server before dropping it to single-user mode: the filesystems stay mounted and I just cd /usr/src make installworld Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 08:32:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1867716A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F9543D4C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:32:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1166250nfc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:32:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rZjCUh+CTYu349xt0AZ61A1WdihtVYPtFiNGVAENi5frogLeqnQ0XAu3P14jsGfDFClsiTKpaKVj1GSWjRPEV2VvPj/xKJdfDkUJqTDFCfmcZyCahpMQ7AbybkYFcGgZFsdAaOGefxEL+zPNrs3rTQxAxtwW8ukRsbLWuDtbgpc= Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr6399687nfi; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.71.12 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 01:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23ed14b80609040132i17173867n5e1852917a3a4e73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:32:04 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_Wider=F8e_Andersen?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Trouble installing 6.1 on an old machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:32:13 -0000 I have an OLD machine (from 1996) that's been running FreeBSD for about 8 years now steady and reliable. It has gone through several versions and was running 4.11 untill today when I decided to make a fresh 6.1 install. When booting from the installation CD the only way I can make it skip a lot of harddrive errors is when I boot in safe mode. I did this and installed the system. However, the same problems are there when I reboot from harddrive after the install (not in safe mode). Here are a few of the error messages I get: ad0: Failure READ_DMA timed out LBA=0 ad1: Failure READ_DMA timed out LBA=13281487 ad1: Timeout READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0 and so on... It ends with a mountroot> prompt. Any ideas what I can try? Thanks, Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 08:50:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C2B16A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (114-103-74-65.gci.net [65.74.103.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BB443D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:50:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id CFBED4543; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:50:26 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Alaska Paradise To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:50:09 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200609031510.58852.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200609031718.23259.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20060904020958.GA9563@teddy.fas.com> In-Reply-To: <20060904020958.GA9563@teddy.fas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2181463.HaXzXp9Kca"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609040050.25450.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: stan Subject: Re: Dump to DVD (partially solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:50:28 -0000 --nextPart2181463.HaXzXp9Kca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 03 September 2006 18:09, stan wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 05:17:58PM -0800, Beech Rintoul wrote: > > On Sunday 03 September 2006 15:27, stan wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 03:10:45PM -0800, Beech Rintoul wrote: > > > > Can someone give me a bit of help? I'm trying to dump /user to > > > > multiple DVD's and keep getting a write error when the DVD runs out > > > > of space. I need an example of the proper command. I think I need to > > > > add file size to the command, but I'm not quite sure how to do it. I > > > > don't normally use DVD's so this is a bit new to me. > > > > > > What command are you using? tar? dump? ..... > > > > Dump.... dump -0au -L -f /dev/acd0 /usr > > > > It used to just prompt me to feed in another DVD. Now it errors out when > > the DVD is full. > > Hmm, the man page says that the -a option (which you are using), should > do just that.. odd. Have you played with teh -s option? No, but specifying -B4589840 in the line works. I have no Idea why it won't= =20 autodetect. Anyway, thanks for the help. This is a client's machine running= =20 6-STABLE, and I was hoping it wouldn't turn into a retirement project this= =20 weekend, which it didn't. If anyone wants to track this down, I'm in=20 (relatively) close proximity to the box, and I'll be more than happy to do= =20 some further testing later in the week. Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart2181463.HaXzXp9Kca Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE++jRp5D0B1NlT4URAqyfAJ0Ze4mKjeSiA6YWYqDTlUrk5u2OlACcDw1w vIq4IY4x2ME2j0WWuJ30GwA= =FQjd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2181463.HaXzXp9Kca-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 10:14:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499AE16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8358943D66 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:14:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1829128wxd for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:14:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L62GgAgVQT40tmBUAL0nbbscwZ/QC1qh2LdF9J6F1LhiyBPhIF2xhAxHSCta6JXUP5a8x8RNGd97xrWp6Tj/3q79670XkkIIlx1C+Uolz/mDaFvspC4uQfjqaGDwIVxQMs44Xwa4C/yT1I2FDp3ifgEmrZ7tIXw+UWQ6DI4bqlo= Received: by 10.70.122.13 with SMTP id u13mr7375883wxc; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:14:40 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Brett Glass" In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060903161335.0989f158@lariat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060903161335.0989f158@lariat.net> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best gigabit network interface for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:14:47 -0000 On 9/3/06, Brett Glass wrote: > Was going to post this to net@, but figured I'd get a bigger > audience and better answers on this list. (Please copy responses to > me as well as the list to make sure I see them.) > > I'm building a machine which is going to have very high network > loads, but can't really use a TCP/IP "accelerator" because much of > the traffic won't be TCP. What, as of now, is the most capable > gigabit Ethernet interface for FreeBSD? Which has the cleanest, > simplest driver? The most onboard buffer space to prevent overruns > and underruns? The fastest bus interface? The least interrupt > overhead (important because interrupts in FreeBSD 6.x are > relatively expensive)? I have some Intel "em" interfaces available > to me, but have been told that while the driver is well supported > they are quirky and not the best choice. > Stay away from cards with a Marvell or RealTek chip. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 10:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4532D16A4E5 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D71B43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:46:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1183693nfc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:46:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IgdGaYjkq6VB6mld6K36WZY1QpMMCV+ziDBDgmNag/6YQHHl66i0j2jjJaZPC3wvGfbZlcehZWt5Q78Z4uIVsgrPhz7EPn4BuXxFBP89pN8Ys0JkAw0Y4BaNa4CcBRRxAut/21o1wgYMiU5ddif1zdvVBb7Egm1ystWU+kh5VbU= Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr6498659nfv; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.71.12 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23ed14b80609040346j61389e65u16a83b7401e09467@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:46:54 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_Wider=F8e_Andersen?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <23ed14b80609040132i17173867n5e1852917a3a4e73@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <23ed14b80609040132i17173867n5e1852917a3a4e73@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Trouble installing 6.1 on an old machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:46:57 -0000 I just downloaded version 4.11 from the FreeBSD ftp archives, burnt a boot CD and tried to reinstall the system via FTP from the archives. This worked perfect. No problems. I guess this means it's not a hardware problem, but rather some changes mad= e to newer versions of FreeBSD. Anyone know what I can do to get 6.1 up and running on this ancient machine= ? Cheers, Andreas --- On 9/4/06, Andreas Wider=F8e Andersen wrote: > > I have an OLD machine (from 1996) that's been running FreeBSD for about 8 > years now steady and reliable. It has gone through several versions and w= as > running 4.11 untill today when I decided to make a fresh 6.1 install. > > When booting from the installation CD the only way I can make it skip a > lot of harddrive errors is when I boot in safe mode. I did this and > installed the system. However, the same problems are there when I reboot > from harddrive after the install (not in safe mode). > > Here are a few of the error messages I get: > > ad0: Failure READ_DMA timed out LBA=3D0 > ad1: Failure READ_DMA timed out LBA=3D13281487 > ad1: Timeout READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=3D0 > and so on... > > It ends with a mountroot> prompt. > > Any ideas what I can try? > > Thanks, > Andreas > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 11:17:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3F616A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [195.115.46.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB1743D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:17:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925EA28920 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:17:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.4.2 (20060627) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jEpf4kbNsmn5 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.1.98] (unknown [10.0.1.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2AC2891F for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8891D729-276B-4922-A248-342D7EDE4CE3@todoo.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Liste FreeBSD From: bsd Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:17:12 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: ACPI won't shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:17:19 -0000 Hello, I have configured a new server and everything goes find but ACPI. When Shutting down the server I have these messages : =85 All buffers synced. Uptime: 5m2s mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x30 mpt1: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x30 Shutting down ACPI Then nothing !! Computer seems to freeze for an infinite amount of time. I have to =20 manually shutdown the computer with the Power button ! 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Its MANAGING this that i cant do. I can update my ports tree > >> fine, and i can go into ports directory and do a make install, sure. > >> > >> But i cant do portsversion to see what needs updating, and i cant do > >> pkg_info to find out what versions i have. So doing something like > > >Why not (in both cases)?As i posted in the original message - the main question i was > asking - both of these are broken in some way. Reposting: > > --- > > For example if i try to run "portversion" i get: > > undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass > /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error > > from Ruby (ruby 1.8.5 is up to date on the system). :> pkgdb -f ~ $ sudo pkgdb -f ~ $ portversion undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-freebsd4] Abort trap (core dumped) ~ $ > > If i try to run "pkg_info" I quickly get: > > pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' :> Deinstall the package that was built for a later version of :> FreeBSD. KrisHow do i tell which this is? Most of this box seems to be compiled from ports, not installed packages. apache+ipv6 is not installed. ~ $ pkg_info ImageMagick-nox11-6.0.2.7 Image processing tools analog-6.0_1,1 An extremely fast program for analysing WWW logfiles pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' ~ I rebuilt analog from ports but that doesnt seem to be it. Thanks for your continued help. Jen --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 11:54:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2201016A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17BB43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:54:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([70.39.69.56]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060904115457.LHBO23453.mta11.adelphia.net@laptop>; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:54:57 -0400 From: "Bob" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andreas_Wider=F8e_Andersen?= , Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:54:52 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <23ed14b80609040346j61389e65u16a83b7401e09467@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Trouble installing 6.1 on an old machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:54:59 -0000 I have same problem with my 10+ year old server boxes. First the boot bios scan has changed between 4.11 and 6.0. You can upgrade your old PC's bios. In most cases the mfg does not support the motherboard any more so chance of getting upgrade to burn the bios chip is most un-likely. You can get 3rd party replacement bio chip from www.umicore.com for around $80.00. Second problem is the size of the 5.2 and newer FreeBSD install kernel. It has gotten bigger and will not function properly on pre-2000 equipment. Solution is to take the hard drive from old PC and plug into newer box and do install. After base system install is completed just return hard drive to old pc and boot from it. Will work fine from that point on. This works fine on my 386 cpu 33 mhz server pc manufactured in 1994 and its currently running FreeBSD 6.1. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Andreas Widerøe Andersen Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:47 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble installing 6.1 on an old machine I just downloaded version 4.11 from the FreeBSD ftp archives, burnt a boot CD and tried to reinstall the system via FTP from the archives. This worked perfect. No problems. I guess this means it's not a hardware problem, but rather some changes made to newer versions of FreeBSD. Anyone know what I can do to get 6.1 up and running on this ancient machine? Cheers, Andreas --- On 9/4/06, Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: > > I have an OLD machine (from 1996) that's been running FreeBSD for about 8 > years now steady and reliable. It has gone through several versions and was > running 4.11 untill today when I decided to make a fresh 6.1 install. > > When booting from the installation CD the only way I can make it skip a > lot of harddrive errors is when I boot in safe mode. I did this and > installed the system. However, the same problems are there when I reboot > from harddrive after the install (not in safe mode). > > Here are a few of the error messages I get: > > ad0: Failure READ_DMA timed out LBA=0 > ad1: Failure READ_DMA timed out LBA=13281487 > ad1: Timeout READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=0 > and so on... > > It ends with a mountroot> prompt. > > Any ideas what I can try? > > Thanks, > Andreas > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 12:01:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E1C16A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kariukiphares@yahoo.com) Received: from web50512.mail.yahoo.com (web50512.mail.yahoo.com [68.142.228.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4228D43D5C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kariukiphares@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 38615 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 12:01:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jBVGwRZ1nwFHEth+BnEVGDi/Mbaf9LQI5GxfIcqzBg1v2tD9E9Acon6cdlyI900k5SH8MjtHeeID4bXRPWXWRTt/9pTb31JXzxt0nG4N5FCjxqFRZVmnCXe7HXJCRf7nuAUQdDsti3PLWEpmSycbPJZJa2YE1hgbZRI3Uir6b3k= ; Message-ID: <20060904120140.38612.qmail@web50512.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [196.202.220.136] by web50512.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:01:40 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:01:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Phares Kariuki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: UPGRADING PACKAGES X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Phares Kariuki List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:01:56 -0000 Hello I installed Samba 2 on a FreeBSD box running 5.4 Stable... now the problem is this... I urgently need to upgrade this package but cannot seem to find a way to do so... I didnt install it off the port... In istalled it using pkg_add... it was in the CD that contains applications.... Thanks.. Kaboro. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 12:02:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5C016A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prasanth.sekharan@ustri.com) Received: from mailmaa.ustri.com (mailmaapos.ustri.com [203.99.43.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B4543D7E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:02:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from prasanth.sekharan@ustri.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 500) by mailmaa.ustri.com with local; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:32:15 +0530 From: prasanth.sekharan@ustri.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060904120044.28C8416A65C@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20060904120044.28C8416A65C@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:32:15 +0530 Subject: Out of Office Auto Reply: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:02:36 -0000 I will be on vacation from 05-09-2006 to 17-09-2006 and would have limited access to email.In my absence please contact iseg@ustri.com Thanks -Prasanth Sekharan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 12:10:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8DF16A5CD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B14743D64 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6D3DA1333 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.internal ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:09:46 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: afdvngEbBZyjU34WI/uWvfAXaNpHr75ViW+XgZmWltiC 1157371786 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451E6642F for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:09:39 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <94ff3700609020746i5b0a8031t522a2f774fcc7985@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609020746i5b0a8031t522a2f774fcc7985@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609041309.41368.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: flash plugin and firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:10:42 -0000 On Saturday 02 September 2006 15:46, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > This I suppose is the eternal question, but I'm quite sick of looking > around google without having a detailed step by step process to get the > flash plugin for firefox. There are some that talk about tweaking the > kernel and applying patches? Is it really so difficult having the flash > plugin for firefox (compiled one)? > If anyone has the consideration to detail a working solution for the > 6.1freebsd release, will be much appreciated, If you want it to be simple use linux-firefox instead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 12:17:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0C016A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C4143D4C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:17:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2892029pye for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:17:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=NKQ5rjtj2Nd8mKzFJqQPIPsuhjIfRQxXB+U3Qms39/pTvyj7AMs/7B+69k3JMiT0es9TD/NFlefF6vqOgPgMcbtQZH/qFvFL6K/szTApDEaWmDdOqk8l6n5Nt77ll1Jo5gCXj3f9kqY89PBRU/3Ve3eDlx0Q13FwcGz1iq0whbU= Received: by 10.35.65.17 with SMTP id s17mr7627902pyk; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.105.10 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 05:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:17:14 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Phares Kariuki" In-Reply-To: <20060904120140.38612.qmail@web50512.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060904120140.38612.qmail@web50512.mail.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 95b9d18d1aa7e106 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPGRADING PACKAGES X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:17:21 -0000 On 9/4/06, Phares Kariuki wrote: > Hello > > I installed Samba 2 on a FreeBSD box running 5.4 Stable... > now the problem is this... I urgently need to upgrade this package > but cannot seem to find a way to do so... I didnt install it off the port... > In istalled it using pkg_add... it was in the CD that contains applications.... Deinstall it (pkg_delete -x samba) and install samba3 from ports (cd /usr/ports/net/samba3 && make install) or packages (pkg_add -r samba3) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 12:50:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B2E16A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donaldjoneill@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B12643D6E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:50:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donaldjoneill@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so2905157pye for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:50:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=Kjgt9XSxTaPsL97+EGIGDRIhipf6ktJmuAtRf2lmhSlHfiiTxTFwYtgW/B+QugDlkbozHoOYherxz/tNkaCoHNbwmHN9rqlkNhebNJ0lQNMZO+HC3eLwM6kA62WGj50x/iWNxnzPqxQswkKzGAYROgh1gYfWFHAjx4f4xbk5FK4= Received: by 10.35.108.12 with SMTP id k12mr10096457pym; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pres1750.airedalians.com ( [75.7.74.134]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 5sm1335272nzk.2006.09.04.05.50.32; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:50:30 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609040750.30916.donaldjoneill@gmail.com> Cc: Perry Hutchison Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:50:37 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 02:08, Perry Hutchison wrote: > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. > richtext builds OK, but as soon as I try to select "bold" it > writes 4 lines to stderr and drops core: > > Message backtrace: > bold > bold > OutOfBounds: offset 0, size 0 > _______________________________________________ You can go to http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ and download openoffice2.0.3 pre-built binaries from there. I would suggest that, rather than trying to build it. You're probably going to need java. I suggest getting the pre-built binary for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.00, you can get it here: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml Try to save yourself as much pain as possible. Building openoffice from ports tends to fall in the category of pain. Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 13:32:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC04B16A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D9B43D53 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:32:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (texas-adsl-74.camtel.net [63.170.184.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k84DWmsD062501 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:32:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:32:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <8891D729-276B-4922-A248-342D7EDE4CE3@todoo.biz> In-Reply-To: <8891D729-276B-4922-A248-342D7EDE4CE3@todoo.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609040832.48938.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: ACPI won't shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:32:56 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 06:17, bsd wrote: > Hello, > > I have configured a new server and everything goes find but ACPI. > > When Shutting down the server I have these messages : > > =85 > All buffers synced. > Uptime: 5m2s > mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x30 > mpt1: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x30 > Shutting down ACPI > > > Then nothing !! > > Computer seems to freeze for an infinite amount of time. I have to > manually shutdown the computer with the Power button ! > > > Any idea ? > ________________________________________________ tell is a little about your hardware? i have a system that does this exact= =20 same behavior. mine is; supermicro 370DE6 dual pentium 3 1000 2048MB ECC-Reg'd PC133 an older samsung cdrw (this is the only ide device in the system) 3ware 6800 raid controller with 3 raid units (20GB R1, 80GB R1, 335GB R5) my system exhibits the exact sme behavior you describe, but i too have no i= dea=20 why. system has always had no trouble with acpi cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 13:40:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043CD16A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from smarthost1.sa.chariot.net.au (smarthost1.sa.chariot.net.au [203.87.93.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0357C43D55 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:40:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.qld.chariot.net.au (mail.qld.chariot.net.au [203.87.95.166]) by smarthost1.sa.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194002B2E84 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:10:09 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost (avs3.sa.chariot.net.au [203.87.94.9]) by mail.qld.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91BA4E87F for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:15:02 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.qld.chariot.net.au ([203.87.95.166]) by localhost (avs3.sa.chariot.net.au [203.87.94.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21484-01-5 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:10:08 +0930 (CST) Received: from blackthorne.virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com (static-203-87-66-248.qld.chariot.net.au [203.87.66.248]) by mail.qld.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861174E87E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:15:02 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060904233905.01939d40@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:41:32 +1000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Warren Liddell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at chariot.net.au Subject: Error Trying to Compile Xfree86-4-clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:40:21 -0000 I have been trying to fix up my X client and KDE for a while, but after fixing everything else, this one package keeps failing and im at a loss as to why and how to solve this issue, any help/assistance on this matter would be greatlyu appreciated. Below is a snippet of the end result of the build/compile. ================ rm -f glxinfo cc -o glxinfo -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -ansi -Wno-system-headers -Dasm=__a sm -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wundef -L/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/wor k/xc/exports/lib glxinfo.o -lGLU -lGL -lXext -lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -pthread - lm -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib -Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/ work/xc/exports/lib /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__rtti_user' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__rtti_si' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__get_eh_context' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__sjthrow' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__builtin_vec_new' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__builtin_vec_delete' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__rtti_class' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__builtin_delete' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__terminate' /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so: undefined reference to `__builtin_new' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/glxinfo. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 13:40:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE5A16A4E7 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matteo.pillon@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35E043D5E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matteo.pillon@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1883496wxd for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:40:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=lt8+QARtL6egcDuiNWMgRLgiutrg4bMA73B15sqey0NM5dlNFcysYAOsUAcNlBiNyvHdt+eSf8EPbr1NGQn5BhOKwVTsUhcan/5xRrJctS1qlZqYHqsiOCNcEDe7ZITAQex9vB3tnNv23XVU6RVXCb9aDYMuOfbogUWJSpG7C+Y= Received: by 10.70.109.12 with SMTP id h12mr7861874wxc; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.octopus ( [80.104.86.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h11sm3566113wxd.2006.09.04.06.34.01; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by neptune.octopus (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 40288C04F; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:35:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:35:36 +0200 From: Matteo Pillon To: bsd Message-ID: <20060904133535.GA8735@neptune.octopus> References: <8891D729-276B-4922-A248-342D7EDE4CE3@todoo.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8891D729-276B-4922-A248-342D7EDE4CE3@todoo.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: ACPI won't shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:40:21 -0000 On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 01:17:12PM +0200, bsd wrote: > Computer seems to freeze for an infinite amount of time. I have to > manually shutdown the computer with the Power button ! Did you try with 'halt -p'? If it doesn't work, can you give more infos on your system? Bye. -- * Pillon Matteo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 13:51:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE09D16A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E48943D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1210690nfc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:51:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mFyXBB25e390b+4l+lDwRLASRYbOozInkrltJzDFCaWedvSeYVmh3RmLPRXhmINYjsPxRjgaEOYrmSlU1CzIozZsRiE9jNt/3JW53/apd3M3qje1nV8qmZUc4UPbX/av5yoruiMQf2WoWKBhK871hSmhp8G7wyWcPog/NhTVVD0= Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr6691885nfj; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.71.12 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23ed14b80609040651n2213debay807eed7b79fb51a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:51:24 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_Wider=F8e_Andersen?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <23ed14b80609040346j61389e65u16a83b7401e09467@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Trouble installing 6.1 on an old machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:51:26 -0000 Thanks for your help! Yeah, can't get any BIOS upgrades anymore. I doubt that I'll spend time on removing harddrives again. I may just stick to 4.11 then. It's just a testserver on my local network anyway. Best, Andreas --- On 9/4/06, Bob wrote: > > I have same problem with my 10+ year old server boxes. > > First the boot bios scan has changed between 4.11 and 6.0. You can upgrad= e > your old PC's bios. In most cases the mfg does not support the motherboar= d > any more so chance of getting upgrade to burn the bios chip is most > un-likely. You can get 3rd party replacement bio chip from www.umicore.co= m > for around $80.00. > > Second problem is the size of the 5.2 and newer FreeBSD install kernel. I= t > has gotten bigger and will not function properly on pre-2000 equipment. > Solution is to take the hard drive from old PC and plug into newer box an= d > do install. After base system install is completed just return hard drive > to > old pc and boot from it. Will work fine from that point on. This works > fine > on my 386 cpu 33 mhz server pc manufactured in 1994 and its currently > running FreeBSD 6.1. > > Good luck. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Andreas Wider=F8= e > Andersen > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:47 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Trouble installing 6.1 on an old machine > > I just downloaded version 4.11 from the FreeBSD ftp archives, burnt a boo= t > CD and tried to reinstall the system via FTP from the archives. This > worked > perfect. No problems. > > I guess this means it's not a hardware problem, but rather some changes > made > to newer versions of FreeBSD. > > Anyone know what I can do to get 6.1 up and running on this ancient > machine? > > Cheers, > Andreas > > --- > > On 9/4/06, Andreas Wider=F8e Andersen wrote: > > > > I have an OLD machine (from 1996) that's been running FreeBSD for about > 8 > > years now steady and reliable. It has gone through several versions and > was > > running 4.11 untill today when I decided to make a fresh 6.1 install. > > > > When booting from the installation CD the only way I can make it skip a > > lot of harddrive errors is when I boot in safe mode. I did this and > > installed the system. However, the same problems are there when I reboo= t > > from harddrive after the install (not in safe mode). > > > > Here are a few of the error messages I get: > > > > ad0: Failure READ_DMA timed out LBA=3D0 > > ad1: Failure READ_DMA timed out LBA=3D13281487 > > ad1: Timeout READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=3D0 > > and so on... > > > > It ends with a mountroot> prompt. > > > > Any ideas what I can try? > > > > Thanks, > > Andreas > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 13:54:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB5A16A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137E143D7F for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:54:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1211298nfc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=PjTScV25LLkGygrpMLWKE8UBgGgt0gzVsZnpjuyzN9/bKfvX3EfnjDbgZa6aKS2Nn9OduSeSfT2pjQHJx7hWQQ4fdx+cuKH1JMkw++xsHh4GRS9+kYtCC2OUAYzByPT8MzL1ddkeH29wkfziAzI7RSFDISwvvc8s6gzZeF/N4No= Received: by 10.48.254.10 with SMTP id b10mr6611196nfi; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.71.12 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23ed14b80609040654u11a61c80n9e7c37efd85b7283@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:54:40 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_Wider=F8e_Andersen?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to get the install config options back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:54:42 -0000 Hi, When I install a new port (Ie. php5) I early get a config options box where I can choose various add-ons. However, if the installation fails or I abort it somehow I can't seem to get the option box back the next time I want to install the port again. How can I get this "box" back so I can make changes to the installation options? Thanks, Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 13:56:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDBE16A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C45A43D58 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:56:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-248-202.51-151.net24.it [151.51.202.248]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k84ECe6S019412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:12:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k84DuRR2097953 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:56:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <44FC309D.6040706@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:56:45 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44F5B851.9080701@netfence.it> <44FBB65C.30707@ez.pereslavl.ru> In-Reply-To: <44FBB65C.30707@ez.pereslavl.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: Re: apache22 Checksum mismatch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:56:59 -0000 Alexey Mikhailov wrote: > If you trust to content of file "apache22/apr_dbd_mysql.rev-50.c" you > can even use "make NO_CHECKSUM=1 install". > But if I were at your place I tried to update "apache22" port and if > this will happen again I would submit PR. Hello. Thanks for the answer. I repeatedly updated my port tree before writing this. I contacted the maintainer, who said it could not reproduce the error. I tried this again after a few days and it worked. I really don't know the reason. I might suspect some sort of caching (transparent proxy?) somewhere between me and the master site, possibly at my ISP, but these are really only speculations. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 13:58:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A5016A4E1 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dante@new-order.org) Received: from s1.net-solution.ro (s1.net-solution.ro [65.98.58.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A2043D66 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:58:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dante@new-order.org) Received: (qmail 27815 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2006 16:58:29 +0300 Received: from sport-fabricii.cluj.astral.ro (HELO blackbox) (83.103.128.218) by s1.net-solution.ro with SMTP; 4 Sep 2006 16:58:29 +0300 From: Vasile C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:58:19 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <23ed14b80609040654u11a61c80n9e7c37efd85b7283@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <23ed14b80609040654u11a61c80n9e7c37efd85b7283@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: "KqMxfwszJ2U*C^#mveejR-5"[wbdHa^(p_.5BEGA; g5?; 2U2!aEs~!5\0="!E@}C&z(=?utf-8?q?pt=0A=09H=2562hPRVY=7D?=>:g*+C{lBg&\b}vfG9ZcUD\GW"K>d24LQUcgLd.6=?+]bW\TQ{CPt1,=?utf-8?q?Yg=23=3FV=0A=09U=3B9e0L=7EzQ0g?=)]aC,AR?7@4SD"CZ@=?utf-8?q?=3F7sgS=5Fg=25kd=5D=7C=25=2E=3F=26=7DNTUt0=7E=261gzNPX=5Df=3D3pT?= =?utf-8?q?P8=5C9yX=0A=09=7C=3DW?=(M MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1373509.bkLulBsKCT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609041358.22167.dante@new-order.org> Subject: Re: How to get the install config options back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:58:28 -0000 --nextPart1373509.bkLulBsKCT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 04 September 2006 13:54, Andreas Wider=F8e Andersen wrote: > Hi, > When I install a new port (Ie. php5) I early get a config options box whe= re > I can choose various add-ons. > > However, if the installation fails or I abort it somehow I can't seem to > get the option box back the next time I want to install the port again. > > How can I get this "box" back so I can make changes to the installation > options? > > Thanks, > Andreas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 && make config install clean =2D-=20 In case something goes wrong use .. BOFH excuse #292: We ran out of dial tone and we're and waiting for the phone company to deli= ver=20 another bottle PGP: http://www.new-order.org/public.key --nextPart1373509.bkLulBsKCT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE/DD+fhNtY2GlR8YRAlp+AJ9QRDrm6QkKtF3X/2tOz6Sr08LNVwCfYB26 ET8y1PgiUaf/Dzp7DiPlbdQ= =KSkU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1373509.bkLulBsKCT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 14:08:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368D116A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71B243D78 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:08:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (texas-adsl-74.camtel.net [63.170.184.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k84E827E062872 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:08:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:08:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <8891D729-276B-4922-A248-342D7EDE4CE3@todoo.biz> <20060904133535.GA8735@neptune.octopus> In-Reply-To: <20060904133535.GA8735@neptune.octopus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609040908.03635.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: ACPI won't shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:08:16 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 08:35, Matteo Pillon wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 01:17:12PM +0200, bsd wrote: > > Computer seems to freeze for an infinite amount of time. I have to > > manually shutdown the computer with the Power button ! > > Did you try with 'halt -p'? > > If it doesn't work, can you give more infos on your system? > > Bye. im not the original-poster, but my system with the exact same behavior, is always shutdown with a 'shutdown -p now'. thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 14:25:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20AC16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20E5E43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:25:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 1824 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2006 14:25:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.146.217.210) by smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.221) with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2006 14:25:09 -0000 In-Reply-To: <44FB969F.6060100@enabled.com> References: <44FA6142.30609@enabled.com> <314FC15A-DA2C-4D03-9469-3522EE0C9FEA@shire.net> <44FA638B.5020500@enabled.com> <0F79193E-402E-41B4-AAE1-E7CBB39CC642@shire.net> <44FA64E6.10800@enabled.com> <44FA6853.2050103@partylemon.com> <44FAFBC2.7070001@enabled.com> <44FB19F5.80204@partylemon.com> <44FB1ACC.6040404@enabled.com> <712C8F83-C27F-4A98-8A1B-5C6A7DB5CA74@hackmiester.com> <44FB82AE.3000908@enabled.com> <40100EC0-B71A-4671-946A-FCA371E85B4B@hackmiester.com> <44FB969F.6060100@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6E28B61F-CC58-441F-B119-A091CD7A53ED@hackmiester.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:24:56 -0500 To: Noah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating user and web files to new server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:25:12 -0000 On 3 September 2006, at 21:59, Noah wrote: > hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: >> >> Obviously they are different syntax, but the two commands posted >> give you the same end result. Why are you rejecting the syntax?! >> > > Hi there, > > I never saw any syntax for the scp way of doing it. Also after I > received the ssh command I was happy to see that moving files could > be performed on one line and want to share it with the list and > soon google. Ah, I see - you wanted the exact command. > > please lets drop the issue it seems too nitpicky. Please forgive me for my incredibly stupid comments... they were uncalled for. I was having a horrible day, I really shouldn't reply to lists on those type of days. > > cheers, > > Noah > > >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Noah >>> >>> >>> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 14:25:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66B316A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sashome@m-lan.ru) Received: from m-lan.ru (mail.m-lan.ru [195.234.109.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C6C43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:25:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sashome@m-lan.ru) Received: from afg.lan (account sashome [10.6.5.102] verified) by m-lan.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTPA id 8054806; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:25:53 +0400 Received: from [172.16.0.201] (account zetroot [172.16.0.201] verified) by afg.lan (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.10) with ESMTPA id 20084; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:25:53 +0400 Message-ID: <44FC3773.5020507@m-lan.ru> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:25:55 +0400 From: Alexander Sashurin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_Wider=F8e_Andersen?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <23ed14b80609040654u11a61c80n9e7c37efd85b7283@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <23ed14b80609040654u11a61c80n9e7c37efd85b7283@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to get the install config options back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alexander.sashurin@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:25:56 -0000 *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro* Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro* > Hi, > When I install a new port (Ie. php5) I early get a config options box > where > I can choose various add-ons. > > However, if the installation fails or I abort it somehow I can't seem > to get > the option box back the next time I want to install the port again. > > How can I get this "box" back so I can make changes to the installation > options? > > Thanks, > Andreas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > make clean doesn't help? what about make config? -- With best regards, Alexander Sashurin a.k.a. ZetRooT or ZetDaemonRoot - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | Mailto: alexander.sashurin@gmail.com | | ICQ: 258820442 | | Mobile: +7-916-195-89-11 | | Jabber: zetroot | | irc: irc.wenet.ru, _ZetRooT_ | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 14:34:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BCC16A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD7A43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (texas-adsl-74.camtel.net [63.170.184.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k84EYrwu063125 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:34:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:34:53 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <23ed14b80609040654u11a61c80n9e7c37efd85b7283@mail.gmail.com> <44FC3773.5020507@m-lan.ru> In-Reply-To: <44FC3773.5020507@m-lan.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609040934.53773.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: How to get the install config options back? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:34:56 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 09:25, Alexander Sashurin wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro* > > Andreas Wider=F8e Andersen wrote: > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pr= o* > > Hi, > > When I install a new port (Ie. php5) I early get a config options box > > where > > I can choose various add-ons. > > > > However, if the installation fails or I abort it somehow I can't seem > > to get > > the option box back the next time I want to install the port again. > > > > How can I get this "box" back so I can make changes to the installation > > options? > > > > Thanks, > > Andreas > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > make clean doesn't help? > what about make config? other option would be to: make rmconfig cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 14:57:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE35816A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4772543D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:57:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.nl with local; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:57:29 +0200 id 0003980C.44FC3ED9.00001BFB Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:57:29 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:57:32 -0000 On 03 Sep Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > I am not sure about installing Solaris into an existing partition. I remember one of the FBSD's (a RC, but still) destroying my partition table. That's the reason I ask. I know that I don't have to use the main option (that's for the whole disk). But if there are no problems know of with the sol installer, than I'm a little less worried. I have no space to backup my XP and FBSD disk parts (at the moment). > I am not trying to get into a mud- slinging match -- both are good. Not my intention either.. (!) > a lot of things you normally do will be frustrating at first until you > learn that he command flags are different on Solaris than on FreeBSD. And that's my point. That's why I asked about good books or reading points, and that's also the challence I'm looking for. FreeBSD runs great. No fun anymore ;-) I have replaced linux once and never want to go back. But finding out the dark spots and in-and-outs of a different OS has it's .. o well, you know what I mean. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 15:10:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471E816A4E2 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD2943D5E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278A81A4D9E; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A0E3E515F1; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:10:35 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" Message-ID: <20060904151035.GA36738@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060904051701.GA11980@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060904115208.78117.qmail@web53415.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060904115208.78117.qmail@web53415.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Gerard Seibert , FreeBSD-Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:10:42 -0000 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 04:52:08AM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 06:31:= 18PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 05:58:36PM -0700, Dr. Jen= nifer Nussbaum wrote: > > > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:59:14PM -0700, Dr. J= ennifer Nussbaum wrote: > > >=20 > > >> Thanks, i CAN compile from the ports collection (i never wanted to u= se > > >> packages). Its MANAGING this that i cant do. I can update my ports = tree > > >> fine, and i can go into ports directory and do a make install, sure. > > >>=20 > > >> But i cant do portsversion to see what needs updating, and i cant do > > >> pkg_info to find out what versions i have. So doing something like > >=20 > > >Why not (in both cases)?As i posted in the original message - the main= question i was > > asking - both of these are broken in some way. Reposting: > >=20 > > --- > >=20 > > For example if i try to run "portversion" i get: > >=20 > > undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass > > /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error > >=20 > > from Ruby (ruby 1.8.5 is up to date on the system). >=20 > :> pkgdb -f >=20 > ~ $ sudo pkgdb -f > ~ $ portversion > undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass > /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error > ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-freebsd4] >=20 > Abort trap (core dumped) > ~ $ Check the manpage, probably I meant pkgdb -fu > > If i try to run "pkg_info" I quickly get: > >=20 > > pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' >=20 > :> Deinstall the package that was built for a later version of=20 > :> FreeBSD. >=20 > KrisHow do i tell which this is? Most of this box seems to be compiled > from ports, not installed packages. apache+ipv6 is not installed. >=20 > ~ $ pkg_info > ImageMagick-nox11-6.0.2.7 Image processing tools > analog-6.0_1,1 An extremely fast program for analysing WWW logfiles > pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' > ~ >=20 > I rebuilt analog from ports but that doesnt seem to be it. grep -r @conflicts /var/db/pkg and remove all listed packages. Kris --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE/EHrWry0BWjoQKURApGhAJ93qYnUWNwt88dACuyJrX15jzqRYwCfanpJ 676IfbXHM0aB2OJBVeQ0Yrg= =VjuH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 15:13:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1994016A50B for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7EB43D8A for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:12:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [172.16.3.238] (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k84FBbl9057988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:11:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k84FBbl9057988 Message-ID: <44FC4229.5050703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:11:37 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dick hoogendijk References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8B8CED950BC21F48C89A4B2C" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:12:03 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1796/Mon Sep 4 13:20:16 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:13:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8B8CED950BC21F48C89A4B2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dick hoogendijk wrote: > On 03 Sep Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >=20 >> I am not sure about installing Solaris into an existing partition. >=20 > I remember one of the FBSD's (a RC, but still) destroying my partition > table. That's the reason I ask. I know that I don't have to use the mai= n > option (that's for the whole disk). But if there are no problems know o= f > with the sol installer, than I'm a little less worried. I have no space= to > backup my XP and FBSD disk parts (at the moment). Back in the Solaris 8 days, the trick was to use fdisk to create a primar= y partition and mark it as type 'Linux Swap' after which Solaris would happ= ily recognise it as a location to install into. Quite how it happened that Solaris uses the same partition type as Linux swap is shrouded in the mists of time. =20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig8B8CED950BC21F48C89A4B2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/EIp8Mjk52CukIwRAySFAJ9e6xwkisC7FAwExcMOZiXEhjGsKgCdGiEC n9bxcw+6hgGu8Mf8XbSX/ys= =KZiX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8B8CED950BC21F48C89A4B2C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 15:21:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7F916A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9371D43E95 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:18:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1227068nfc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:18:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sOuAsnMDp5pUdM8GC5tomUB2A1JkbO2S5GcxOF9500vKVhjnFtTU8YKP9aorXHdk+G9KGkH9ALYPhWMrBHPL6BNwdaxlntV7vPbwRXzfmPq7UCgTT4YHMoRJBCoFiUevyMuhUdcF38AQhe5hgLXVkMq2ZPW+gzEHPjYYpHBr760= Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr6784439nfi; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.14 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:18:21 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "Oliver Iberien" In-Reply-To: <200609032016.39389.odilist@sonic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200609030901.40330.odilist@sonic.net> <200609032016.39389.odilist@sonic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:21:43 -0000 On 9/3/06, Oliver Iberien wrote: > Yes, you'd think, but no. I got a $50 GeForce 6200 LE/256M card and it works, > as long as I use the proprietary driver. With the standard nv driver that > xorgconfig came up with, it was just as bad as the Radeon. > > The nvidia config utility did not add extra lines to the config file, > incidentally. It wouldn't, because it doesn't know what kind of monitor you have. Take a look at the modline in this post to see what I'm talking about. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69920 I don't remember what that all means, but that card should be able to support that resolution. Note: The monitor I'm using now, ViewSonic vx2025wm, shows completely different behavior whether I use the VGA or DVI input; for example, MS Widows simply would not recognize that it was capable of 1680x1050 until I got the DVI input to work. ( To get the DVI to work I had to shut everything down, unplugged, for a few minutes and boot it all back up wit the DVI cable, only, installed.) -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 15:27:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B480E16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C8943D53 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:27:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (69-12-157-6.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [69.12.157.6]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k84FRUUA023229 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:27:30 -0700 From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:27:29 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609040827.30023.odilist@sonic.net> Subject: Newbie question - vidcontrol (?) and video mode at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:27:30 -0000 Hi, With my new widescreen monitor, the console starts up with text bleeding off the edge of the display. What is the best console video mode for a console on a 1680x1050 display, and how do I get it to start up with it? Thanks, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 15:41:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BA716A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from typhoon.he.net (typhoon.he.net [64.62.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96F6443D67 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:41:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from liam ([71.141.72.46]) by typhoon.he.net for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:41:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:41:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill-S X-X-Sender: bill@liam To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <44FC4229.5050703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> <44FC4229.5050703@infracaninophile.co.uk> System-ID: [en] (SuSE-9.3 64-bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:41:29 -0000 At Mon, 4 Sep 2006 it looks like Matthew Seaman composed: > dick hoogendijk wrote: > > On 03 Sep Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > > >> I am not sure about installing Solaris into an existing partition. > > > > I remember one of the FBSD's (a RC, but still) destroying my partition > > table. That's the reason I ask. I know that I don't have to use the main > > option (that's for the whole disk). But if there are no problems know of > > with the sol installer, than I'm a little less worried. I have no space to > > backup my XP and FBSD disk parts (at the moment). > > Back in the Solaris 8 days, the trick was to use fdisk to create a primary > partition and mark it as type 'Linux Swap' after which Solaris would happily > recognise it as a location to install into. > > Quite how it happened that Solaris uses the same partition type as Linux > swap is shrouded in the mists of time. > (giggle) If I recall correctly, there was some hacking to do too if you were dual-booting Solaris and Linux on the same disk for Solaris would try on use your whole Linux filesystem as its own swap location. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 15:54:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EC516A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0114D43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:54:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (69-12-157-6.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [69.12.157.6]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k84FslUh014285; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:54:47 -0700 From: Oliver Iberien To: "Atom Powers" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:54:47 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200609030901.40330.odilist@sonic.net> <200609032016.39389.odilist@sonic.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609040854.47422.odilist@sonic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:54:48 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 08:18, Atom Powers wrote: > It wouldn't, because it doesn't know what kind of monitor you have. > > Take a look at the modline in this post to see what I'm talking about. > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69920 > I don't remember what that all means, but that card should be able to > support that resolution. > > Note: The monitor I'm using now, ViewSonic vx2025wm, shows completely > different behavior whether I use the VGA or DVI input; for example, MS > Widows simply would not recognize that it was capable of 1680x1050 > until I got the DVI input to work. ( To get the DVI to work I had to > shut everything down, unplugged, for a few minutes and boot it all > back up wit the DVI cable, only, installed.) Very cool. A lot for my poor feeble newbie brain to process. I'll bet you were right about the Radeon card being able to work. man radeon turns up a lot of these options. Looking at xorg.conf, it looks as if I have two devices specified. Section "Device" Identifier "Standard VGA" Driver "vga" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "GeForce 6200 LE" Driver "nvidia" EndSection I am not sure what vga is doing there (something xorgconfig stuck in?), but it does not seem to do any harm (?). I'm going to try erasing it and seeing if disaster strikes. It's picking up the correct refresh rates without any options specified in the device section. I would guess that if I were using the digital output, this might not be the case? I'm cheating a bit by having a windows box connected to the digital input and the FreeBSD box connected to the analog input, so bypassing the issue while avoiding paying for a digital KVM switch. It looks as if there is an order-of-magnitude difference in the processing power needed to do analog and digital at the same display size. I'm told that a 6600 is the minimum needed to cope with the 1680x1050 with digital. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 15:55:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A85716A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from www16b.your-server.co.za (www16b.your-server.co.za [196.22.132.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13F443D70 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:55:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from [165.146.216.228] (helo=superman) by www16b.your-server.co.za with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GKGnP-0001pv-16 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:55:42 +0200 Message-ID: <001901c6d03a$815bb770$0a01a8c0@superman> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:55:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Authenticated-Sender: cknipe@savage.za.org X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.88.4/1796/Mon Sep 4 14:20:16 2006) Subject: Fiber Channel, Emulex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:55:50 -0000 Hi, Any drivers to support Emulex??? Would love to get my beasty connected to FC!! Thanks, Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:03:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E70616A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd999@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E73643D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:03:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd999@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1923604wxd for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=knRxkaqB2zIQh1yCMpsSsKc1FPpeaYKOnmpgXqFpzRkNp0CcCZhaOlOep/XKlRn1vn0sAsUPdO+9Xe74RHqRbTe9v2Fy02NAkqn+oHeG9TfROQT70RdD1vcUefxkK4dnDI8sfQs4FDpDH6RLpMjE6AmH9xORThwRerxffnDxPbs= Received: by 10.90.78.1 with SMTP id a1mr1131025agb; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.93.9 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:03:39 +0900 From: "azhar freebsd" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: where is my adduser.conf file ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:03:41 -0000 hi all i am new abt freebsd . it may be very simple problem but i am lost . help me ! [root@mine]/etc# uname -a FreeBSD mine.freebsd.org 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #1: Wed Aug 30 13:08:32 JST 2006 root@mine.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYGENRIC-001 i386 [root@mine]/etc# whereis adduser.conf adduser.conf: [root@mine]/etc# azhar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:17:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EA216A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F61F43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:17:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Sep 2006 16:17:15 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (EHLO [192.168.2.5]) [62.59.173.176] by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 04 Sep 2006 18:17:15 +0200 X-Authenticated: #25365336 Message-ID: <44FC5195.3020705@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:17:25 +0200 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060706) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: azhar freebsd References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where is my adduser.conf file ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:17:18 -0000 azhar freebsd wrote: > hi all > i am new abt freebsd . > it may be very simple problem but i am lost . help me ! > > > > [root@mine]/etc# uname -a > FreeBSD mine.freebsd.org 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #1: Wed Aug 30 > 13:08:32 JST 2006 > root@mine.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYGENRIC-001 > i386 > > [root@mine]/etc# whereis adduser.conf > adduser.conf: > [root@mine]/etc# > > azhar > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > 'whereis' only looks in the ports or the location of the executable's. If you want to find a file you should use 'find' or locate. : find / -name "whatever-you-re-looking-for" or use locate, but before you can use locate you have to create the locate database. When you search frequently it's advisable to use locate since it's faster. Though wheter the results are acurate depends on the last time you updated your locate database so: /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb locate whateveryourelookingfore locate somethingelse locate another thing GL and HF in FreeBSD -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:19:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D360416A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from www16b.your-server.co.za (www16b.your-server.co.za [196.22.132.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575E743D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:19:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from [165.146.216.228] (helo=superman) by www16b.your-server.co.za with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GKHAZ-0005Y3-Qk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:19:34 +0200 Message-ID: <003801c6d03d$d9bf1940$0a01a8c0@superman> From: "Chris Knipe" To: References: <001901c6d03a$815bb770$0a01a8c0@superman> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:19:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Authenticated-Sender: cknipe@savage.za.org X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.88.4/1797/Mon Sep 4 17:52:24 2006) Subject: Re: Fiber Channel, Emulex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:19:36 -0000 Hmm. Absolutely NO fiber channel adapters listed on the supported hardware?? :-( That's not good... Regards, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Knipe" To: Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Fiber Channel, Emulex > Hi, > > Any drivers to support Emulex??? Would love to get my beasty connected > to FC!! > > Thanks, > Chris. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:31:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAE516A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bug2bug@bug2bug.tk) Received: from ns.vega-int.ru (ns.vega-int.ru [62.148.228.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302E143D5C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:31:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bug2bug@bug2bug.tk) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ns.vega-int.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C870D100048; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:31:27 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from ns.vega-int.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13967-10; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:31:24 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from [172.17.12.179] (unknown [172.17.12.179]) by ns.vega-int.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AE9100043; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:31:24 +0600 (YEKST) From: =?koi8-r?b?88XSx8XKIPPPwsvP?= To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:33:24 +0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609042233.24740.bug2bug@bug2bug.tk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at vega-int.ru Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question about programming RS-232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:31:30 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 02:39, you wrote: > --- stan wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 11:26:04PM +0600, ?????? > > > > ????? wrote: > > > Hello. > > > I have a question I can't deal myself. > > > And nobody can help me in resolving my problem. > > > > > > Problem: > > > I have a hand-made device, I want to control from > > > > FreeBSD 6.1 > > > > > (I am porting this application from Windows > > > > equivalent). > > > > > But I don't know, in what device /dev/ I should > > > > write to get reults. > > > > > I tryed to write bytes into /dev/ttyd0, > > > > /dev/cuad0, but got nothing. :( > > > > Start off by using minicom (or cu) to talk to the > > device. By doing > > this you can sort through baud rate/parity,hardware > > issues. > > > > Once you have that working, then move on to code. > > > > -- > > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to > > understand the simplicity. > > (Dennis Ritchie) > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > does your handmade device use RS-232? If its PIC or > some such microcontroller based they claim to be > RS-232 compliant but they do not always use +12V and > -12V levels. MAX-232 chips can correct this. I assume > if it worked in windows for you this might not the > case, but you never know. > > > -brian Yes, you are partialy right, I'm using an old Atmel AT89C4051 microcontroll= er,=20 I'm trying to control from through RS-232. The levels are correct as I know= =2E=20 But I don't know if the code is correct :( I want to send 6 bytes through RS-232 with the following characteristics: Port: COM1 Data Bits: 8 Stop Bits: 1 Parity: None =46low Control: None Please, say me if this code is incorrect: #include #include #include #include int main(void) { =9Aint t =3D 0, num =3D 10, fd, iOut; char *ch; =9Astruct termios my_termios; =9Ach =3D (char *)malloc(6); =9Amemset(ch, 250, 6); =9Afd =3D open("/dev/cuad0", O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK); =9Aprintf("Opened com port\n"); =9Aif(fd < 0) return 0; // tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH); =9Amy_termios.c_cflag =3D CS8 | CLOCAL; =9Aif(cfsetspeed(&my_termios, B9600) < 0) return 0; =9Aif(tcsetattr(fd, TCSANOW, &my_termios) < 0) return 0; =9AiOut =3D write(fd, ch, 6); =9Aif(iOut < 0) return 0; =9Aprintf("Number of bytes =3D %d\n", iOut); =9Aprintf("Writed %s!\n", ch); =9Aclose(fd); =9Aprintf("Closed!\n"); =9Areturn 0; } Thank you for any help. With best regards, Sergei Sobko P.S. Sorry for my bad English as I'm only 16 and I'm from Russia ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:41:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1C016A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205C543D55 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:41:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-71-92-172.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.71.92.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA11114314 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:41:54 -0500 From: pauls@utdallas.edu To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20060904050245.GB17752@thought.org> References: <20060904043500.GA8617@thought.org> <20060904050245.GB17752@thought.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========68881BA6F956E657DB0E==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: time to come clean... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:41:58 -0000 --==========68881BA6F956E657DB0E========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On September 3, 2006 10:02:45 PM -0700 Gary Kline=20 wrote: > > yeah, the default IS ssh, rsh-no-mo. what i want is to cron stuff > exactly like Mathews's ideas. then at least, i'll have VERY recent > synchronization .... iow:help me get this right; please. > > i have spent hours reading about rsync. my printserver (tao) is busted; > the man pages are horrible, &c. > FWIW, this webapge explains the process quite well: Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========68881BA6F956E657DB0E==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:42:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324A616A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whatawonderfulworldweliveintoo@yahoo.com) Received: from web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEC3643D58 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:42:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from whatawonderfulworldweliveintoo@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 89456 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 16:42:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1Csw+/x+gveyvguFdXOwA9mcAcCYal78d4/CekWFuOz8OXBubp/HcXYnM9hvmINELlDEMuF7Fh95pChdlYrC2JkpLD+2JN5R5IAQI5R1pS9U2B3ArV8WKNI5E4E9ghynLLNmtPcYn592S1a3BzV+D+1oJsgriZAW5oHJ9yA8Vrg= ; Message-ID: <20060904164225.89454.qmail@web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.82.9.66] by web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:42:25 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:42:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Where Are All These Files Located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:42:30 -0000 Hi; In installing logcheck, I read the following information: BSD and FreeBSD: You should go to the /etc directory and edit the /etc/daily, /etc/weekly, and /etc/monthly scripts and change the 'rotate()' script function to change the log permissions on rotation. Simply change the line: cp /dev/null "$file"; chmod 644 "$file" To: cp /dev/null "$file"; chmod 600 "$file" (The above is for BSDI 2.x, BSDI 3.x uses an external rotate function now, just change the mode sent to it from 644 to 600 and you'll be OK. FreeBSD will be similiar to the BSDI 2.x script) However, these files do not exist (at least in FreeBSD 6.1). What should I edit instead? Or, what does "just change the mode sent to it" mean? TIA, Ted 2 --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:47:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB5416A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5EF43D6D for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:47:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) id k84Gl9HL099784; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:47:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:47:09 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Chris Knipe Message-ID: <20060904164709.GG93326@dan.emsphone.com> References: <001901c6d03a$815bb770$0a01a8c0@superman> <003801c6d03d$d9bf1940$0a01a8c0@superman> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003801c6d03d$d9bf1940$0a01a8c0@superman> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fiber Channel, Emulex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:47:14 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 04), Chris Knipe said: > Hmm. > > Absolutely NO fiber channel adapters listed on the supported hardware?? :-( Multiple LSI Logic cards are supported by the mpt driver, as are many Qlogic cards by the isp driver. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html The isp section doesn't actually say "fibre" anywhere so it doesn't show up in a text search. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:51:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F6316A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0532543D73 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:51:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2006 12:51:33 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id MER76415; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2006 12:51:21 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,209,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="270225561:sNHT21749818" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17660.22772.682296.989928@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:48:52 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060904164225.89454.qmail@web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20060904164225.89454.qmail@web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090202.44FC5825.0003,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Subject: Where Are All These Files Located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:51:41 -0000 Ted Johnson writes: > "BSD and FreeBSD: You should go to the /etc directory and edit > the /etc/daily, /etc/weekly, and /etc/monthly scripts and change the > 'rotate()' script function to change the log permissions on > rotation." "find -x / -name daily" should give you the answer. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 16:57:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804EF16A4E7 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whatawonderfulworldweliveintoo@yahoo.com) Received: from web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 059A243D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:57:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from whatawonderfulworldweliveintoo@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 50358 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 16:57:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TFhTtDuaQ/14MtcJNoQ7bVgPPgae2bTxav/Gn7UuL31fZUy1nNvL/Ob9me4FSJBAO549JhiDfQEKtz7IWt5jydG+FLrq3QQVuMuQYBhESIzPwZSo6T/cxGe3NuWf8VSJhVfwrwI5CRWQhbt4Jks4cAF7LVjXzDM38eAciCv4GOk= ; Message-ID: <20060904165701.50356.qmail@web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.82.9.66] by web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:57:01 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Johnson To: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <17660.22772.682296.989928@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Where Are All These Files Located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:57:21 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: Ted Johnson writes: > "BSD and FreeBSD: You should go to the /etc directory and edit > the /etc/daily, /etc/weekly, and /etc/monthly scripts and change the > 'rotate()' script function to change the log permissions on > rotation." "find -x / -name daily" should give you the answer. Yeah, I tried that. It didn't work. Files must be referencing something else, by different name. Any other ideas? Ted --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 17:01:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8490516A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8E543D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:01:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-71-92-172.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.71.92.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF441114314 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:56:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:01:17 -0500 From: pauls@utdallas.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20060904164225.89454.qmail@web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20060904164225.89454.qmail@web58410.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========199D0C4C2EC2F2207E23==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Where Are All These Files Located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:01:22 -0000 --==========199D0C4C2EC2F2207E23========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On September 4, 2006 9:42:25 AM -0700 Ted Johnson=20 wrote: > Hi; > In installing logcheck, I read the following information: > > BSD and FreeBSD: You should go to the /etc directory and edit > the /etc/daily, /etc/weekly, and /etc/monthly scripts and change the > 'rotate()' script function to change the log permissions on rotation. > Simply change the line: > /etc/periodic/daily, /etc/periodic/weekly, /etc/periodic/monthly. See man = (8) periodic. Also see man (5) pqqeriodic.conf. However, BSD doesn't need to use logcheck and rotate (which are linux=20 creations), because it rotates logfiles using syslogd and newsyslog.conf.=20 See man (8) syslogd, man (8) newsyslog and man (5) newsyslog.conf. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========199D0C4C2EC2F2207E23==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 17:05:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27A916A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D8443D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:05:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GKHtB-000Npd-Cu; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:05:37 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <98E10DB7-64AC-4E0A-9B6C-420633700B5B@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:05:36 -0600 To: dick hoogendijk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:05:38 -0000 On Sep 4, 2006, at 8:57 AM, dick hoogendijk wrote: > On 03 Sep Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > >> I am not sure about installing Solaris into an existing partition. > > I remember one of the FBSD's (a RC, but still) destroying my partition > table. That's the reason I ask. I know that I don't have to use the > main > option (that's for the whole disk). But if there are no problems > know of > with the sol installer, than I'm a little less worried. I have no > space to > backup my XP and FBSD disk parts (at the moment). > btw there is a Solaris X86 mail list at http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/solarisx86/ They might be better able to help out in determining the danger of installing in your situation. best Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 17:09:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4802616A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4EE43D4C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:09:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([70.39.69.56]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060904170918.IOWG24294.mta10.adelphia.net@laptop>; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:09:18 -0400 From: "Bob" To: "azhar freebsd" , Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:09:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: where is my adduser.conf file ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:09:20 -0000 Its in /etc But if I remember correctly you have to run adduser one time to select default values and create the default conf file. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of azhar freebsd Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 12:04 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: where is my adduser.conf file ? hi all i am new abt freebsd . it may be very simple problem but i am lost . help me ! [root@mine]/etc# uname -a FreeBSD mine.freebsd.org 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #1: Wed Aug 30 13:08:32 JST 2006 root@mine.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYGENRIC-001 i386 [root@mine]/etc# whereis adduser.conf adduser.conf: [root@mine]/etc# azhar _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 17:20:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B626616A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D103C43D72 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:20:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCE6DA126D for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.internal ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:20:06 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 8+6Pw2RWrKXuW08GtVMlzpCNoyMWO01i++k+CiudbD8E 1157390406 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6309C8A9C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:20:06 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:20:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609041820.01808.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:20:09 -0000 On Sunday 03 September 2006 18:01, Michael S wrote: > Good day all. > > I have a question about calendar.usholidays. In the man page for > calendar it says that this file must be updated every year. Is it > enough just to cvsup, buildworld and installworld? > I am following RELENG_6_1. So am I, and my copy of /usr/share/calendar/calendar.usholiday has CVS comments that suggest it dates from 2003. Most of the entries are perpetual though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 17:52:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F9216A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from typhoon.he.net (typhoon.he.net [64.62.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1340A43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:52:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from liam ([71.141.72.46]) by typhoon.he.net for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:52:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:52:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill-S X-X-Sender: bill@liam To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <98E10DB7-64AC-4E0A-9B6C-420633700B5B@shire.net> Message-ID: References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> <98E10DB7-64AC-4E0A-9B6C-420633700B5B@shire.net> System-ID: [en] (SuSE-9.3 64-bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:52:38 -0000 At Mon, 4 Sep 2006 it looks like Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC composed: > > On Sep 4, 2006, at 8:57 AM, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > > On 03 Sep Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > > > > I am not sure about installing Solaris into an existing partition. > > > > I remember one of the FBSD's (a RC, but still) destroying my partition > > table. That's the reason I ask. I know that I don't have to use the main > > option (that's for the whole disk). But if there are no problems know of > > with the sol installer, than I'm a little less worried. I have no space > > to > > backup my XP and FBSD disk parts (at the moment). > > > > > btw there is a Solaris X86 mail list at http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/solarisx86/ > > They might be better able to help out in determining the danger of installing > in your situation. A second drive of course would somewhat give some relief for this install. I have, one a few of my boxes here, a BIOS enabled key for selecting which disk to boot off of. AMI I believe is the BIOS type. -- Bill Schoolcraft, PO Box 210076, San Francisco, CA 94121 http://wiliweld.com "If happiness is in your destiny, you need not be in a hurry." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 18:06:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A60C16A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conradbellman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DF043DC0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:06:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conradbellman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so3008912pye for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:05:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=NANaw3OqIOxJ6ysJDMTueFeHZSrKHYvtnRfmEx80gkfT/lmGnRvI93Suy2ZVcAJiTaPpzH+pctizJyGaLc2Sa9TIsiHVFQ8gnoycfMts/KaegjUxz0C0EWSzB/O4StEJNewaAkOslfo/oaWItw4A2e08VOZQvA0109YU5S27Dn0= Received: by 10.35.106.1 with SMTP id i1mr10644980pym; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.16.8 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88cad3b50609041105k1615b3e7o745ec63449933020@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:05:43 -0700 From: "Conrad Bellman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: CB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:06:39 -0000 Hello, I have downloaded the two disks needed for BSD, apon loading the firs disk, I am stuck with the command list, and unable to use it, due to "can't find kernel" I tried loading kernel, and other commands but always get the "no kernel" error, did I download Disk 1 & 2 incorrectly ? I turned computer off , then inserted my Disk 1 and started my computer, but what i told you previous is what occurred, ,can you help ? Thanks for your time and patients CB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 18:23:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7012E16A506 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdml@werner.st) Received: from mail.werner.st (mail.werner.st [85.126.91.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC77043D4C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:23:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdml@werner.st) Received: from localhost (localhost.local.werner.st [127.0.0.1]) by mail.werner.st (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A8F5C66 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:23:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.werner.st ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (web01.local.werner.st [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07135-05 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:23:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.werner.st (Postfix, from userid 1012) id 48BF25C65; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:23:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on web01.local.werner.st X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.4 Received: from TABLET (85-126-91-51.work.xdsl-line.inode.at [85.126.91.51]) (Authenticated sender: bsdml@werner.st) by mail.werner.st (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895395C62 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:23:25 +0200 (CEST) From: "Martin Werner" To: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:22:57 +0200 Message-ID: <003f01c6d04f$25694e90$2101a8c0@local.werner.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AcbQTyVB7baIg2M9RmS/qZTnfFOU0A== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at werner.st Subject: Unusual Network-Performance with outbound traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:23:08 -0000 Hi, I'm running a FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE Server with a fxp0: port 0x2000-0x203f mem 0xf4120000-0xf4120fff,0xf4100000-0xf411ffff irq 9 at device 8.0 on pci1 and have some rather unusual network performance issue with outbound traffic. Using fixed IP-Adresses, no special flags set with network adapters. Using regular FTP-Client putting data to another server performance is OK (10,3MB/sec - wire limit) Using wput with the same file and same target, throughput is 2,7MB/ec And finally: Using a mount_smbfs mount and cp'ing the data there, we are down to 184KB/sec Fetching that file performance is quite OK (Regular FTP-Client: 10MB/sec, fetch: 6,3MB/sec, cp is at 5,8MB/sec Some parms' (all at default) net.inet.tcp.sendspace: 32768 net.inet.tcp.recvspace: 65536 net.smb.version: 103006 net.smb.tcprcvbuf: 65535 net.smb.tcpsndbuf: 65535 Thanks in advance for any hints From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 18:51:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3890216A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2FE43D53 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:51:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([70.39.69.56]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060904185138.DJLC2942.mta9.adelphia.net@laptop>; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:51:38 -0400 From: "Bob" To: "Conrad Bellman" , Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:51:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <88cad3b50609041105k1615b3e7o745ec63449933020@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: CB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:51:39 -0000 Since 5.2 version FreeBSD has problems installing on older PC's, pre-2000 or maybe pre-2002. Move HD to newer PC do install and return to older pc and all is well. You could all ways try installing version 4.11 and if that works then you know for sure your pc is legacy version. If you used FreeBSD box to download install disk you should run checksun to see if download was good. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Conrad Bellman Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:06 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CB Hello, I have downloaded the two disks needed for BSD, apon loading the firs disk, I am stuck with the command list, and unable to use it, due to "can't find kernel" I tried loading kernel, and other commands but always get the "no kernel" error, did I download Disk 1 & 2 incorrectly ? I turned computer off , then inserted my Disk 1 and started my computer, but what i told you previous is what occurred, ,can you help ? Thanks for your time and patients CB _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 18:55:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CDB16A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matteo.pillon@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFE743D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matteo.pillon@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so798151nzn for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:55:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=dbq7vXBlFEloJcahV/2UR0nvCFpIvsdUCJEjh7RpFYz4dWodT4X6sqCRFuxD84X1tV5AZowLXsu+KSoEYwQgIaSj5wTf7YPE0IkZbXTTNT4BR4fXHCwuv0ZBHbYCw6sTHdhMXtoUYgSaBxjSpcpEF626BQc5pSyxO5BNOWn+pc4= Received: by 10.65.20.3 with SMTP id x3mr3682693qbi; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.octopus ( [80.104.86.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4sm3922382qba.2006.09.04.11.55.44; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by neptune.octopus (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6CDECC04F; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:57:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:57:23 +0200 From: Matteo Pillon To: Andriy Babiy Message-ID: <20060904185723.GA9820@neptune.octopus> References: <200609021209.09378.ABabiy@shaw.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609021209.09378.ABabiy@shaw.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP-1022 laser printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:55:57 -0000 Hi, Andriy. On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 12:09:09PM -0700, Andriy Babiy wrote: > Could anybody advise me on the HP-1022 laser printer? Does anyone have this > model working on the FreeBSD? I'm going to buy it, therefore I wanted to > check if there are any issues/problems about it. I found postings about "USB > port busy" problem, but guys didn't specify clearly the platform they used. I get this error, too (HP LJ-1022). Under CUPS, it says: "USB port busy; will retry in 30 seconds...". When trying to send something directly: # echo something > /dev/ulpt0 [after a while...] bash: /dev/ulpt0: Device busy I have it running under Linux, with CUPS and foo2zjs. Bye. -- * Pillon Matteo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 19:05:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC21116A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ADF43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k84J59qY057650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k84J56su057639; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19210; Mon, 4 Sep 06 11:43:09 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 06 11:43:09 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609041843.AA19210@pluto.rain.com> To: norgaard@locolomo.org References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <44FBD821.1050703@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44FBD821.1050703@locolomo.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:05:23 -0000 > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. > > What do you mean: which won't build? No problems here - I recently > compiled both. They don't require the full gnome package. Both of them (and also Dia) require Glib, which won't build for me. I posted details of the failure to freebsd-gnome a day or two ago. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 19:05:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B237216A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F27843D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k84J5Ai6057671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k84J5Ank057670; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19240; Mon, 4 Sep 06 11:55:21 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 06 11:55:21 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609041855.AA19240@pluto.rain.com> To: donaldjoneill@gmail.com References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <200609040750.30916.donaldjoneill@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200609040750.30916.donaldjoneill@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:05:23 -0000 > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? ... > You can go to http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ and download > openoffice2.0.3 pre-built binaries from there. I would suggest > that, rather than trying to build it. Thanks for the pointer. That is the sort of thing I was hoping for. > You're probably going to need java. I suggest getting the pre-built > binary for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.00, you can get it here: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml The diablo port appeared to build OK as a dependency :) but I should probably d/l this one also just in case. > Try to save yourself as much pain as possible. Building openoffice > from ports tends to fall in the category of pain. So it would seem :( I thought the whole point of the Ports Collection was to avoid this sort of problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 19:52:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2B316A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E97D43D6A for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:52:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA60DA152A for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:52:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.internal ([10.202.2.161]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:52:30 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: nAtRhqWfpL+gVTECxka6SPQ6mtYh94Py3Sp7XyKuPxMk 1157399550 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AB72F25 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:52:30 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:52:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <200609040750.30916.donaldjoneill@gmail.com> <10609041855.AA19240@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609041855.AA19240@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609042052.27204.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:52:31 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 22:55, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > > ... > > > You can go to http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ and download > > openoffice2.0.3 pre-built binaries from there. I would suggest > > that, rather than trying to build it. > > Thanks for the pointer. That is the sort of thing I was hoping for. > > > You're probably going to need java. I suggest getting the pre-built > > binary for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.00, you can get it here: > > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml > > The diablo port appeared to build OK as a dependency :) but I should > probably d/l this one also just in case. > > > Try to save yourself as much pain as possible. Building openoffice > > from ports tends to fall in the category of pain. > > So it would seem :( > > I thought the whole point of the Ports Collection was to avoid this > sort of problem. I find it's a reasonably reliable build these days. And once it's installed it doesn't really matter all that much if the occasional build fails, since you still have the previous version installed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 20:05:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF8616A4DA; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq3.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq3.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB18F43D55; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:05:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.189] (port=50719 helo=smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GKKgL-0001PA-A7; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:04:33 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.221.74]:52911 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GKKgO-0006Jn-KV; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:04:36 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:05:41 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609042205.42063.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Kbtv application: I'm looking for someone who wants to take over maintainership/development X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:05:47 -0000 FYI: Kbtv is a small TV app for FreeBSD/KDE. It works with Brooktree/Conexant and with Philips SAA713x based analog TV cards (I actually recommend using the latter). AFAIK, it is the only properly working app that uses SAA (and unlike bktr, saa never freezes or panics). Also supports webcams that work with the pwcbsd driver. The tarball and some blahblah are now hosted at sourceforge (also still at my website). I also put a "recruitment" message on SF: http://sourceforge.net/people/viewjob.php?group_id=176370&job_id=26247 I want to withdraw from this project, and would love to pass it on to one or more people who are interested in this kind of app, rather than just abandoning it. There is a port for it as well, it would seem logical to hand over maintainership to that as well. It is in a good working state. SF project page for kbtv: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbtv My web page for kbtv: http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv Relevant buzzwords: Python, PyKDE, SWIG, SDL, C, bktr, saa, pwc If interested, let me know. I will gladly help you to get started. I crossposted to have maximum exposure, if replying and CC'ing mailing list, please CC to multimedia@ only. Cheers, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 20:47:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B6F16A4DD for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE7F43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:47:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so3058311pye for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:47:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oFogtyr3xS7MyPEjTFidMJ69MHU1yTP+IApqd+0OKnr4CtO+qabxhsjzpF/o32EPqWJ0KHdjdQnT0y7HoQ9fAee9X//bUxEcODLGecP4ZsikKiQqTpV51geei62po08ebGuhjrDB7/dpRUD4P0Y6DTaIFbg7jTzH+9bBwUC7e+Q= Received: by 10.35.83.6 with SMTP id k6mr10920294pyl; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.44.4 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e10486b0609041347o6f2f42eehc170787174bc5a7a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:47:23 -0300 From: "Alexandre Biancalana" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <72cf361e0608201411h5be8bd2bsbf2f9187e3e226dd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <72cf361e0608201411h5be8bd2bsbf2f9187e3e226dd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Two Dell PE1850s keep locking up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:47:25 -0000 Hi ! I=B4m having the same problem. My machine have 2GB of ram and 1 one processor, connected to a PowerVault 220 (Storage) and a PowerVault 110T (LTO 2 Tape Drive). Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Aug 11 15:30:34 BRT 2006 root@Jones:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/Jones Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf43 Stepping =3D 3 Features=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x659d> AMD Features=3D0x20100000 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory =3D 2147221504 (2047 MB) avail memory =3D 2100518912 (2003 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3 ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 !=3D expected base 24 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 4 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 !=3D expected base 56 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 32-55 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 64-87 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 ahc0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfe9ff000-0xfe9fffff irq 39 at device 12.0 on pci2 ahc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 32/253 SCBs ahc1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfe9fe000-0xfe9fefff irq 36 at device 12.1 on pci2 ahc1: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=3D7, 32/253 SCBs amr0: mem 0xf81f0000-0xf81fffff,0xfe9c0000-0xfe9dffff irq 46 at device 14.0 on pci2 amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller amr0: Firmware 521S, BIOS H430, 256MB RAM pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 amr1: mem 0xf80f0000-0xf80fffff irq 37 at device 11.0 on pci3 amr1: delete logical drives supported by controller amr1: Firmware 351S, BIOS 1.10, 128MB RAM pcib4: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 0.0 on pci5 pci6: on pcib6 em0: port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xfe5e0000-0xfe5fffff irq 64 at device 7.0 on pci6 em0: Ethernet address: 00:14:22:16:ba:37 em0: [FAST] pcib7: at device 0.2 on pci5 pci7: on pcib7 em1: port 0xccc0-0xccff mem 0xfe3e0000-0xfe3fffff irq 65 at device 8.0 on pci7 em1: Ethernet address: 00:14:22:16:ba:38 em1: [FAST] pcib8: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci8: on pcib8 uhci0: port 0xace0-0xacff irq 1= 6 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xacc0-0xacdf irq 1= 9 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xaca0-0xacbf irq 1= 8 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfeb00000-0xfeb003f= f irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub4: vendor 0x413c product 0xa001, class 9/0, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 uhub4: multiple transaction translators uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ukbd0: ATEN ATEN Composite, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: ATEN ATEN Composite, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. pcib9: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 pci9: at device 13.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcafff,0xcb000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xccfff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Timecounter "TSC" frequency 3591248661 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 69880MB (143114240 sectors) RAID 1 (optimal) amr1: delete logical drives supported by controller amrd1: on amr1 amrd1: 1259100MB (2578636800 sectors) RAID 5 (optimal) sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device sa0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 20:48:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: 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t12mr10924144pyj; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pres1750.airedalians.com ( [75.7.74.134]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r15sm5219915nza.2006.09.04.13.48.30; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:48:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: Perry Hutchison Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:48:28 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <200609040750.30916.donaldjoneill@gmail.com> <10609041855.AA19240@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609041855.AA19240@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609041548.29027.duncan.fbsd@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:48:32 -0000 On Monday 04 September 2006 13:55, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > > Try to save yourself as much pain as possible. Building openoffice > > from ports tends to fall in the category of pain. > > So it would seem :( > > I thought the whole point of the Ports Collection was to avoid this > sort of problem. That's the idea, and in most cases that's true. The ports system just keeps getting better and better. However,there are some ports that are just a pain to build and install. Either they can be tricky to do, they take a really long time, or both. OpenOffice falls in there. I'll avoid building it and use a pre-built package. After you install it, you'll find that it shows up for an update because two lines were swapped in the Makefile. Since I don't care to accidentally be rebuilding openoffice because of this, I have +IGNOREME in /var/db/pkg/en-openoffice.org-US-2.0.3, it doesn't show up as needing an upgrade. Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:00:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44CD16A4DE for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53408.mail.yahoo.com (web53408.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A863243D4C for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:00:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 18321 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 21:00:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MxZlcsL+rZwcVcotpBgcS4W5rLJOGoLoQQuV93gHAWjnuuSW5OvX3uIpzpUGfvXJSohLo53rH2EhV31arakvBLhVzyP/0rWzbjGqVGqbPFctnkyHZkpW9Z2dzkYxKNxyUE8HFbs0zz9hu/QxN3vK7ZrHdtbguKCsIjuyeWLoyFA= ; Message-ID: <20060904210020.18319.qmail@web53408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.84.1.2] by web53408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:00:20 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:00:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060904151035.GA36738@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:00:22 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 04:52:08AM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > > For example if i try to run "portversion" i get: > > > > undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass > > /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error > > > > from Ruby (ruby 1.8.5 is up to date on the system). > > :> pkgdb -f > > ~ $ sudo pkgdb -f > ~ $ portversion > undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass > /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error > ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-freebsd4] > > Abort trap (core dumped) > ~ $ ::>Check the manpage, probably I meant pkgdb -fu Sorry, i dont understand what im checking hte manpage to have it do. Running pkgdb -fu does rebuild the package database, but i get the same Bus Error thing from Ruby as above. > > If i try to run "pkg_info" I quickly get: > > > > pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' > > :> Deinstall the package that was built for a later version of > :> FreeBSD. > > KrisHow do i tell which this is? Most of this box seems to be compiled > from ports, not installed packages. apache+ipv6 is not installed. > > ~ $ pkg_info > ImageMagick-nox11-6.0.2.7 Image processing tools > analog-6.0_1,1 An extremely fast program for analysing WWW logfiles > pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' > ~ ::>grep -r @conflicts /var/db/pkg and remove all listed packages. Kris Which listed packages? The output of this grep looks like: /var/db/pkg/mysql-server-4.1.20/+CONTENTS:@conflicts mysql-server-3.* /var/db/pkg/mysql-server-4.1.20/+CONTENTS:@conflicts mysql-server-4.[02-9].* /var/db/pkg/mysql-server-4.1.20/+CONTENTS:@conflicts mysql-server-5.* But i dont want to remove mysql-server-4.1.20, because this seems to be the version that is actively running on this machine, and i dont want to disable it. Same for apache+mod_ssl, which accounts for alot of the other conflicts. Also, when i try to delete one of the ports that seemed less critical, even that didnt work: ~ $ sudo pkg_delete -f jade-1.2.1_9 pkg_delete: package 'jade-1.2.1_9' is required by these other packages and may not be deinstalled (but I'll delete it anyway): sgmlformat-1.7_2 pkg_delete: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts sp-1.*' ~ ...and jade-1.2.1_9 is still there. Thank you again for your continued attention, Kris. Jen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:00:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71C816A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: from web60113.mail.yahoo.com (web60113.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BDFF43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:00:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 80719 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 21:00:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ThJl3wqEPdCrfLuz5islC3a9hIvwwLpWxNfMPNpB+wEmY4h8f9IEYhr2ozEbB6XP0YDjaWS32MS8A8vespgi0TDXBydiYLAFrnjds5G24yitK7TIITWIADa3kTHP2DQZZOMF83dZ0K8lzEF/F+6QQEo61vS0BTBbcj/AV46t0XU= ; Message-ID: <20060904210044.80717.qmail@web60113.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.243.80.243] by web60113.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:00:44 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:00:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: requesting advice on freebsd as vmware guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:00:45 -0000 Hi, I have XP (3 GHz Pentium and 1.5 MB RAM) running at work and would like to have access to a FBSD system within it. I am not sure which vmware product to install. I believe vmware server is good if you need remote connections (something I do not require at this point). There is also workstation and player. So I'm looking for advice on the basic recipe as well as any common pitfalls. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:02:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72B416A4E5 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A4543D7B for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:02:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1281947nfc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fa9puTuNEJ9XqXjthVb7qSi3fU6KMNy9nvChnElRQ6KUaKmb+A6RIOqMKcgY7Cl4tO/QuFwJOYoANy9AdleljUs+6pbruMpW3Fs0Ci1cYSUBMy3Dz3RByDoGW3mE/1+C4TS4iM9CbCUqqI22z4xRH0O9N6BH8XMPlR8TqRe5bdM= Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr7060859nfg; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.212.3 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf0609041402o7419fe99mb56213cbfe34d7d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:02:10 -0600 From: "Jon Drews" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44FBD821.1050703@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <44FBD821.1050703@locolomo.org> Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:02:20 -0000 On 9/4/06, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Perry Hutchison wrote: > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. > There is a commercial program, textmaker (www.softmaker.com), which I > have found much better than Abiword in handling word documents, but I > doubt it supports OpenDocument. > I'll second the nomination for TextMaker. It works quite well. I run it under Linux emulation. I believe the next version will have support for OpenOffice documents. IIRC, if you buy the current version, then you can upgrade to the 2006 version for free. -- Kind regards, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:02:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5280916A4F0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5CF43D6B for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:02:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2004368wxd for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:02:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PB6FkNSrxHL3C/7jX0cGAJmtl3/uclodtsPXbvhTq5h9rDISQFl7AIaShkH6i06/cy8jROkDpiHYDpag7Y9fx4lt6vrkKega8314ofcjoC4cbS4Barxdl37Tp2I15VojdNZDLs7N6tGl7qJ0prNlQjxWfzFhuMkYkJi/3RRPf2I= Received: by 10.70.56.4 with SMTP id e4mr8400370wxa; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:02:41 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Perry Hutchison" In-Reply-To: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:02:50 -0000 On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison wrote: > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. > richtext builds OK, but as soon as I try to select "bold" it > writes 4 lines to stderr and drops core: > > Message backtrace: > bold > bold > OutOfBounds: offset 0, size 0 > _______________________________________________ KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. What's in your /etc/make.conf file and what part of gnome won't build? -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:03:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D7A16A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59FB43D69 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:03:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1282201nfc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:03:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZA3jYDonJCCwPlv/wWi3/y1edMGXHEKhXfAgRjqlPViWOV0BRFZUOXq5VEgz/kijg3ra7Pew/oDUFzHUWGJgfe4S7E2HZronSCCZ8CyVAnXi+xCxFxu4tZOnLtoub7GLdZLxgkQPT2I6L3pcug75BMsWWPCdcw0OC3JYNjoO+r4= Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr7042889nfl; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.60.11 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:33:50 +0530 From: Subhro To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: load balancing nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:03:53 -0000 Hello folks, I have a strange problem on hand. I have got two internal LANs and one ISP link. I am trying to share the link between the two internal LANs and do a load balancing between the two. The rules I am using are: nat on $ext_if from { $int1_if:network, $int2_if:network } to any -> $ext_if round-robin where $int1_if, $int2_if are two internal interfaces and $ext_if is the external interface. However my observation is systems using $int_2 as gateway loose connectivity randomly. Also the TTL values for the pings to the gateway change to 150 from 64 as soon as the system looses connectivity. The systems in the LAN are all windows xp boxes. Could anyone please tell me where I am going wrong? Thanks and Best Regards Subhro -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:05:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C9A16A4E2 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2C743D45 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k84L4t5L061747; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:04:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k84L4t5L061747 Message-ID: <44FC94F0.1020306@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:04:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Johnson References: <20060904165701.50356.qmail@web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060904165701.50356.qmail@web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig038AA0FD11C319CAA378537D" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:05:16 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1799/Mon Sep 4 20:31:55 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where Are All These Files Located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:05:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig038AA0FD11C319CAA378537D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted Johnson wrote: > Robert Huff wrote:=20 > Ted Johnson writes: >=20 >> "BSD and FreeBSD: You should go to the /etc directory and edit=20 >> the /etc/daily, /etc/weekly, and /etc/monthly scripts and change the = >> 'rotate()' script function to change the log permissions on >> rotation." >=20 > "find -x / -name daily" should give you the answer. >=20 > Yeah, I tried that. It didn't work. Files must be referencing something= else, by different name. Any other ideas? They don't exist by default any more, but if you *create* /etc/{daily,weekly,monthly}.local, then they will get run as part of the appropriate periodic tasks. See: /etc/periodic/daily/999.local /etc/periodic/weekly/999.local=20 /etc/periodic/monthly/999.local grep _local /etc/defaults/periodic.conf However, why wouldn't you just setup /etc/newsyslog.conf to rotate your logfiles? Much simpler and cleaner. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig038AA0FD11C319CAA378537D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/JT38Mjk52CukIwRCJfKAJ9dtorE3epnrLgHdgb2ytO9TkGLTQCeNTI7 G6vhuw2P9JBBoNxcedUZCec= =O1Er -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig038AA0FD11C319CAA378537D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:08:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506C416A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E4143D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:08:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD121A4D9E; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC3B3514AF; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:08:37 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" Message-ID: <20060904210837.GA44688@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060904151035.GA36738@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060904210020.18319.qmail@web53408.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060904210020.18319.qmail@web53408.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:08:39 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 02:00:20PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: >=20 > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 04:52:= 08AM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: >=20 > > > For example if i try to run "portversion" i get: > > >=20 > > > undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass > > > /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error > > >=20 > > > from Ruby (ruby 1.8.5 is up to date on the system). > >=20 > > :> pkgdb -f > >=20 > > ~ $ sudo pkgdb -f > > ~ $ portversion > > undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass > > /usr/local/sbin/portversion:239: [BUG] Bus Error > > ruby 1.8.5 (2006-08-25) [i386-freebsd4] > >=20 > > Abort trap (core dumped) > > ~ $ >=20 > ::>Check the manpage, probably I meant pkgdb -fu >=20 > Sorry, i dont understand what im checking hte manpage to > have it do. Running pkgdb -fu does rebuild the package=20 > database, but i get the same Bus Error thing from Ruby > as above. Running which version of portupgrade? Also try 'cd /usr/ports; make fetchindex' first. > > > If i try to run "pkg_info" I quickly get: > > >=20 > > > pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' > >=20 > > :> Deinstall the package that was built for a later version of=20 > > :> FreeBSD. > >=20 > > KrisHow do i tell which this is? Most of this box seems to be compiled > > from ports, not installed packages. apache+ipv6 is not installed. > >=20 > > ~ $ pkg_info > > ImageMagick-nox11-6.0.2.7 Image processing tools > > analog-6.0_1,1 An extremely fast program for analysing WWW logfiles > > pkg_info: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts apache+ipv6-1.*' > > ~ >=20 > ::>grep -r @conflicts /var/db/pkg and remove all listed packages. >=20 > Kris > Which listed packages? The output of this grep looks like: > /var/db/pkg/mysql-server-4.1.20/+CONTENTS:@conflicts mysql-server-3.* > /var/db/pkg/mysql-server-4.1.20/+CONTENTS:@conflicts mysql-server-4.[02-9= ].* > /var/db/pkg/mysql-server-4.1.20/+CONTENTS:@conflicts mysql-server-5.* >=20 > But i dont want to remove mysql-server-4.1.20, because this seems > to be the version that is actively running on this machine, and i dont > want to disable it. Same for apache+mod_ssl, which accounts for > alot of the other conflicts. You need to recognize that you've got the system into a damaged state already, so it's going to take further intrusive work to repair it. > Also, when i try to delete one of the ports that seemed less > critical, even that didnt work: > ~ $ sudo pkg_delete -f jade-1.2.1_9 > pkg_delete: package 'jade-1.2.1_9' is required by these other packages > and may not be deinstalled (but I'll delete it anyway): > sgmlformat-1.7_2 > pkg_delete: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts sp-1.*' > ~ >=20 > ...and jade-1.2.1_9 is still there. >=20 > Thank you again for your continued attention, Kris. What happens if you try to reinstall it from the port, setting FORCE_PKG_REGISTER? Kris --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE/JXVWry0BWjoQKURAhj1AKDb7MyBkfZFdu0UFcIXiGHPMtfsgACdG6X3 sFINtzcurKyIjMWSWqoCUlM= =BPFW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:12:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CBD16A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B6D43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FB32E05D; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:12:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44FC9696.901@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:11:50 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?RXJpayBOw7hyZ2FhcmQ=?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Perry Hutchison References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <44FBD821.1050703@locolomo.org> <10609041843.AA19210@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609041843.AA19210@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000306050806030904070305" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:12:43 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000306050806030904070305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perry Hutchison wrote: >>> Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? >>> AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. >> What do you mean: which won't build? No problems here - I recently >> compiled both. They don't require the full gnome package. > > Both of them (and also Dia) require Glib, which won't build for me. > I posted details of the failure to freebsd-gnome a day or two ago. Looking at that post it seems something failed when you tried to update your ports collection. I'd suggest you delete it (keep distfiles though so you won't have to fetch again), unpack again the ports.tgz, then install cvsup and update the ports collection using that. If you installed programs from packages when you installed the system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start again. This takes time .... but given that 6.2 is coming up. 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mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C42258848 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F6A1083BC5 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GKMFH-0003F6-00 for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:44:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:44:43 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20060904214442.GA12343@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 17:38:17 up 140 days, 18:43, 3 users, load average: 0.46, 0.26, 0.11 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: portmanager port upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:44:45 -0000 I'm trying to upgrade a machine, which was built only about 2 weeks agao. portmanager reprts the following: ======================================================================== portmanager 0.4.1_6 FreeBSD brown.fas.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #11: Sun Sep 3 13:33:28 EDT 2006 root@brown.fas.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BROWN i386 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ autoConflicts 0 autoMoved 0 backUp 0 buildDependsAreLeaves 0 forced 0 interactive 0 log 1 pmMode 0 pristine 0 resume 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon Sep 4 17:31:36 2006 linux_base-8-8.0_16 /emulators/linux_base-8 marked IGNORE port not installed/updated Mon Sep 4 17:31:37 2006 linux_base-8-8.0_16 /emulators/linux_base-8 marked IGNORE por t not installed/updated Can anyon tell me why this port is marked ignore? Has it been superseeded? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:50:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3FE16A4E9 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BF843D5D for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:49:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1288549nfc for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:49:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=C4F6bs649+LlVGBsLLrFqqW5i6o95Kx7rpsF6qjJ5rHHCr1WvtiGJh2GmkjboPxFQro+fb8f3vJz0dIA6TjDUm6Dk0I1W8YNKMB6hmEoDmaxlYyWpatXBUMM/MDQPRG9iMpz5HNK7trsyqYYoHJMeulb7J4eIQoEKGlUC9QjxpQ= Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr7102001nfk; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.230.3 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:49:56 +0100 From: "Alistair Sutton" To: "Free BSD Questions list" In-Reply-To: <20060904214442.GA12343@teddy.fas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060904214442.GA12343@teddy.fas.com> Subject: Re: portmanager port upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:50:03 -0000 On 04/09/06, stan wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade a machine, which was built only about 2 weeks agao. > portmanager reprts the following: > > ======================================================================== > portmanager 0.4.1_6 > FreeBSD brown.fas.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #11: Sun Sep 3 > 13:33:28 EDT 2006 > root@brown.fas.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BROWN i386 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > autoConflicts 0 autoMoved 0 > backUp 0 buildDependsAreLeaves 0 > forced 0 interactive 0 > log 1 pmMode 0 > pristine 0 resume 0 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mon Sep 4 17:31:36 2006 > linux_base-8-8.0_16 /emulators/linux_base-8 > marked IGNORE > port not installed/updated > > Mon Sep 4 17:31:37 2006 > linux_base-8-8.0_16 > /emulators/linux_base-8 > marked IGNORE > por t not installed/updated > > > Can anyon tell me why this port is marked ignore? Has it been superseeded? >From the port's Makefile: DEPRECATED= unsupported by upstream, no security support anymore EXPIRATION_DATE=2006-09-01 IGNORE= ${DEPRECATED} Al -- WWW: http://ajs.no-dns-yet.org.uk GPG/PGP: http://ajs.no-dns-yet.org.uk/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 21:55:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3A816A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whatawonderfulworldweliveintoo@yahoo.com) Received: from web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F98C43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:55:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from whatawonderfulworldweliveintoo@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 98693 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 21:38:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4PQYUuihDpiFnSXfpnUFShnZillrXmbQabZZ/2krDZhLG3AFyOFBAWQkld84NMSO0K+ncPfCQhYoP+oM09obLHFZV4uG+J6TZGZKMUN9t94EQShe056b3bs/NN+XsefP7RAy4twG+gCKRm7JI5GIsQz5lXwHXQnnF2aI7OBKM+4= ; Message-ID: <20060904213809.98691.qmail@web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.19.14.27] by web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:38:09 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:38:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Johnson To: "Travis H." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: How To Close Ports (OT?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:55:25 -0000 Well, I did that, and studied other documents as well, and have packet filters running right now. I also did a search of the document you suggested and it doesn't even have the word "close" in it, therefore, it would appear to not address the issue. From your reply, I'm missing something obvious here. But would you point it out anyway? Thanks, Ted3 "Travis H." wrote: On 9/4/06, Ted Johnson wrote: > I have many ports open for various functions, email, ftp, squid, pound, various > instances of zope, etc. Of course, all of them are libel to be attacked. > What does one do? There's this thing called pf, you should really look into it. Start with: man pf Then try reading the pf FAQ. If that is too confusing, google for a basic tutorial on network security. -- "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate." Unix "guru" for rent or hire -><- http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ GPG fingerprint: 9D3F 395A DAC5 5CCC 9066 151D 0A6B 4098 0C55 1484 --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 22:06:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3342A16A4DF for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solinym@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4219843D5E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:06:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from solinym@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so3083710pye for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:06:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qKuUzxpXcBWUss82Io+Yc9Gls+AzKsDnqrWxmDzEs2uKhVE5Yj8knkhwIvgGt1VJj59GvrKv79ijcIwVGG5BBWt9i7eBkL5I29yIYcIXFBSkix06DPNoNB01E2+7OQdfcn1ur5H1bemRM4FL0SweGCmcGFiGep0xYPm7iblkOXA= Received: by 10.35.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr11056923pyi; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.34.3 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:06:02 -0500 From: "Travis H." To: "Ted Johnson" In-Reply-To: <20060904213809.98691.qmail@web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060904213809.98691.qmail@web58409.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How To Close Ports (OT?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:06:11 -0000 On 9/4/06, Ted Johnson wrote: > I also did a search of the document you suggested > and it doesn't even have the word "close" in it, therefore, it would appear > to not address the issue. From your reply, I'm missing something obvious > here. But would you point it out anyway? Fair enough. It's because dropping packets before they reach the port makes it irrelevant whether they are closed (that is, have no listening daemon) or not. If a port scanner says the port is closed, it generally means that it got an ICMP unreachable (UDP) or a TCP reset (TCP) back. This is helpful to attackers as they know quickly that the port is useless to them, and that the target is online. On the other hand, if you drop the incoming packets, the attacker cannot infer whether you are online, and most port scanners wait for some period and then decide that the target is not going to respond, so it slows down single-threaded scans. In general, it is better to drop than to reject to untrusted networks, since the scanners are generally hostile. Internal communication on your LAN can usually be rejected, because internal users are generally not hostile. This means that if they try to access a service that isn't running, they get a response right away that they made a mistake, instead of waiting for a response which will never come. Furthermore, a closed and an open port permit pretty good OS fingerprinting. I think that if you drop instead of reject, then an attacker cannot narrow down the OS as well. In summary: The way to close a port is to not run a program which listens on that port. This can be simulated by rejecting packets at the firewall. The way to block a port is with packet filters, and there's no way to do that without one (unless you disable reject messages at the kernel level). -- "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate." Unix "guru" for rent or hire -><- http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ GPG fingerprint: 9D3F 395A DAC5 5CCC 9066 151D 0A6B 4098 0C55 1484 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 22:53:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE7F16A5A3 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82F7143D46 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:52:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 30181 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2006 22:52:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SGFtzEaAqFiEfJr+tGPDe48GupKLwcGyrz3bGaOxcAd41fLhAD0c8T0PMD600xXHCA7D/Pey0udN8CeV9/wBiNS6eTn5QGzAqSbmX2GcDggakPug+c9/mzEnxHU7UCZZ+qe09X49/PEI0bURSyN9qrP9/Cq/PzqSH8HdV2NO6FM= ; Message-ID: <20060904225259.30179.qmail@web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.17.32.58] by web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:52:58 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:52:58 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: Bill-S , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:53:00 -0000 --- Bill-S wrote: > At Mon, 4 Sep 2006 it looks like Chad Leigh -- > Shire.Net LLC composed: > > > > > On Sep 4, 2006, at 8:57 AM, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > > > > On 03 Sep Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > > > > > > I am not sure about installing Solaris into an > existing partition. > > > > > > I remember one of the FBSD's (a RC, but still) > destroying my partition > > > table. That's the reason I ask. I know that I > don't have to use the main > > > option (that's for the whole disk). But if there > are no problems know of > > > with the sol installer, than I'm a little less > worried. I have no space > > > to > > > backup my XP and FBSD disk parts (at the > moment). > > > > > > > > > btw there is a Solaris X86 mail list at > http://groups.yahoo.com/ > > group/solarisx86/ > > > > They might be better able to help out in > determining the danger of installing > > in your situation. > > A second drive of course would somewhat give some > relief for this > install. > > I have, one a few of my boxes here, a BIOS enabled > key for > selecting which disk to boot off of. AMI I believe > is the BIOS > type. > > > -- I would recommend the second drive option. I have attempted installing Solaris 10 on multiple computers and all if ever seems to do is corrupt the drive on me. Once I got it to boot up and go into their version of X windows. After installing the Bonus pack with KDE and such never turned on again. Very frustrating. good luck, I've given up until I have a Sun Box to play with. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 23:19:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC3816A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@stanford.edu) Received: from smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU (smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU [171.64.10.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403EA43D73 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:19:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from csar@stanford.edu) Received: from [171.66.32.49] (DNab422031.Stanford.EDU [171.66.32.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k84NJ41c013476 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:19:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: <44F4718F.1010502@mac.com> References: <34A15B01-CECC-478F-8EE8-3AEA839803C7@stanford.edu> <44F4718F.1010502@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <25D1B58B-AA8F-4CE1-AAF7-768F7A6B35C9@stanford.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Can Sar Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:18:59 -0700 To: Chuck Swiger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 fsck Question (semantics of -p) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:19:11 -0000 We ran our experiment on top of a very simple RAM disk which does not have any caches or anything of that sort. The dmesg log is at http://keeda.stanford.edu/dmesg The resultant images are at: http://keeda.stanford.edu/ufs-umount-image http://keeda.stanford.edu/ufs-mount-sync-image If you run fsck -p on them, fsck will not be able to recover, while fsck without the -p option will be able to. Can On Aug 29, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Can Sar wrote: > [ ... ] >> Would you consider it an error if the -p option does not fix >> inconsistencies caused by a simple power failure, without any >> hardware or software corruption? > > You're asking an interesting question, but the issue of data > integrity depends not only on the software which comprises the OS, > but also on the hardware being used. > > In particular, the system depends upon the hard drives to reliably > report when data being written actually has been; SCSI drives, > using tagged command queuing, especially in conjunction with a > battery-backup which ensures the drive stays up long enough to > flush it's write cache even if system power is removed, will tend > to fare pretty well. > > IDE drives, by contrast, have a bad habit of lying about whether > data has actually been written to the disk itself rather than > simply making it to the write cache on the drive. (Such drives > ignore the ATA "FLUSH CACHE" command, specificly.) > > In other words, showing that a filesystem can become inconsistent > in a fashion that "fsck -p" cannot correct is interesting and a > concern regardless of the circumstances, but showing it in cases > where you are using battery-backed drives and/or SCSI rather than > IDE is a lot more meaningful. If you are using IDE devices, your > testing will be more meaningful if you disable the IDE write-cache > entirely. Also, you should put your results somewhere, perhaps on > a webpage with links to the filesystem images and a complete dmesg > so that the OS version and hardware being used is well-documented. > > -- > -Chuck > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 23:24:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AF016A4E0 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8C743D88 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:24:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKNnS-0000P8-PK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:24:07 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GKNnS-0002tq-9g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:24:06 +0100 Message-ID: <44FCB595.2030706@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:24:05 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200608302047.06425.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <44F644DC.8030007@web.de> In-Reply-To: <44F644DC.8030007@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: not adding daemons to rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:24:12 -0000 Jona Joachim wrote: > Jonathan Horne wrote: >> ive noticed that apache can be started manually using the apachectl tool, even >> if it is not enabled in /etc/rc.conf. do many other daemons have this >> ability? i have a dev server that i would like to not have many things >> enabled in the rc.conf, but i would like an easy way to just start specific >> daemons when i need. > > Take a look at /usr/local/etc/rc.d > You will see several scripts belonging to server applications you > installed. Each one of these scripts can start or stop the service. > For example: > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh start > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh stop > > When you put something into rc.conf it is actually this script that is > executed, so every daemon that can be enabled in rc.conf can also be > started/stopped using those scripts. But the scripts check rc.conf so they still have to be enabled in rc.conf unless you use forcestart... box# grep pf_enable /etc/rc.conf box# pwd /etc/rc.d box# ./pf start box# echo pf_enable=\"YES\" >> /etc/rc.conf box# grep pf_enable /etc/rc.conf pf_enable="YES" box# ./pf start Enabling pf. No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled box# Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 23:50:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FF816A4E2 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AA143D58 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:50:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k84Nnp63033798 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:49:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k84NnpKN033797; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA20281; Mon, 4 Sep 06 16:41:48 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 06 16:41:48 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> To: nikolas.britton@gmail.com References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:50:04 -0000 > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. ... > KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. Not that I'm any more eager to get into a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) File format support is not important. I just need something for my 9th-grader to use for school papers. > What's in your /etc/make.conf file # added by use.perl 2006-08-22 20:05:56 PERL_VER=5.8.8 PERL_VERSION=5.8.8 > what part of gnome won't build? Details are on freebsd-gnome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 23:50:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAD816A4E6 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1885843D55 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:50:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k84NnoXZ033785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:49:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k84NnoEl033784; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA20234; Mon, 4 Sep 06 16:28:14 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 06 16:28:14 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> To: norgaard@locolomo.org References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <44FBD821.1050703@locolomo.org> <10609041843.AA19210@pluto.rain.com> <44FC9696.901@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44FC9696.901@locolomo.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:50:05 -0000 > >>> Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > >>> AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. > >> What do you mean: which won't build? No problems here - I recently > >> compiled both. They don't require the full gnome package. > > > > Both of them (and also Dia) require Glib, which won't build for me. > > I posted details of the failure to freebsd-gnome a day or two ago. > > Looking at that post it seems something failed when you tried to > update your ports collection. I suspect the blunder was in trying to update Ports at all, given it is a new 6.1 CD install and nothing *else* is updated. The Handbook suggests to always update Ports before trying to fetch/build anything, but that does not seem to have worked out very well in this case. > I'd suggest you delete it (keep distfiles though so you won't have > to fetch again), unpack again the ports.tgz, then install cvsup > and update the ports collection using that. I hesitate to get onto the cvsup treadmill -- from reading the website, tracking CURRENT did not sound like my desired usage model. I suspect what I really need is to have the entire Ports mechanism, including any downloaded distfiles, frozen as of 6.1-RELEASE. Unfortunately, the Handbook does not seem to cover that situation, at least in the Ports section. > If you installed programs from packages when you installed the > system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing > from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the > last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean > out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start > again. This takes time .... but given that 6.2 is coming up. It would also thoroughly defeat the purpose of installing from CD! I wonder if I ought to wipe the partitions and start completely over with a fresh install, and this time *don't* try to update the Ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 00:40:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697C016A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B6643D4C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:39:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKOys-0007AD-Lq for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:39:58 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GKOys-00088U-3R for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:39:58 +0100 Message-ID: <44FCC75D.70602@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:39:57 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10609032030.AA16157@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609032030.AA16157@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Conrad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:40:00 -0000 Perry Hutchison wrote: >> I am interested in downloadind the 2 disks for linux, and trying >> to install them on my computer, but I am not sure what i have to >> download, could comeone please help me > > You may be asking the wrong list. FreeBSD is not Linux, although it > can run many Linux binaries if configured appropriately. > > For Linux, you probably want to be looking into something along the > lines of Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, Mandrake, or Suse. If it is FreeBSD you want to install try %fetch ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso from a command prompt (the above command is all on one line). If you are using a windows computer, go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org and navigate to the directory above and download 6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso. When it has downloaded burn it to CD and boot from the CD. You can install just from 6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso. 6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso has more software packages but you can install them later online. See also http://www.freebsd.org/handbook Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 00:41:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D50D16A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5A443D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:41:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([70.39.69.56]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060905004114.BNWM24294.mta10.adelphia.net@laptop>; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:41:14 -0400 From: "Bob" To: "Subhro" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:41:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Cc: Subject: RE: load balancing nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:41:15 -0000 How about posting a diagram of the cable wiring of your network, then maybe we have a starting point to work on your problem. Chances this has nothing to do with NAT as source of problem. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Subhro Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:04 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: load balancing nat Hello folks, I have a strange problem on hand. I have got two internal LANs and one ISP link. I am trying to share the link between the two internal LANs and do a load balancing between the two. The rules I am using are: nat on $ext_if from { $int1_if:network, $int2_if:network } to any -> $ext_if round-robin where $int1_if, $int2_if are two internal interfaces and $ext_if is the external interface. However my observation is systems using $int_2 as gateway loose connectivity randomly. Also the TTL values for the pings to the gateway change to 150 from 64 as soon as the system looses connectivity. The systems in the LAN are all windows xp boxes. Could anyone please tell me where I am going wrong? Thanks and Best Regards Subhro -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 01:13:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4689D16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6C543D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:12:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k851Cvhf023312 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k851Cvnt023311 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:12:56 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060905011256.GA23070@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: stuff:: FreeBSD folks, my giveaway hardware, and more. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:13:00 -0000 Atom Powers lives close enough that a stop-over yesterday was reasonable. I had "tao" booted to Fixit mode and with some magic ifconfig command Atom managed to rescue the hundreds of megs of stuff that I should have backed up by rsync or otherwise. This noon Atom brought over a set of the 6.1 CD's that I will try once I've reinstalled 5.3 and hammered the hard drive for a couple days. Greg L mentioned the possibility of hardware faults as a cause of the fatal trap. If the disk *has* gone south, I'll add the entire box to my giveaways. Anyway this is a public thanks to everybody who has helped, including the rsync scripts. It is takes a week to get things stable, better now than later. Everybody knows how rock stolid FBSD is: one crash in 11 years is pretty good proof:-) So thanks to everybody from back in the Eozoic 4.0 days at Cal to the guys working om 7.0-CURRENT. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 02:06:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697A016A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net (alnrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.225.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CCD43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:06:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [192.168.214.215] (c-24-1-232-64.hsd1.tx.comcast.net[24.1.232.64]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20060905020655b14001oqtoe>; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:06:55 +0000 Message-ID: <44FCDBBE.8080309@computer.org> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:06:54 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter References: <20060904210044.80717.qmail@web60113.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060904210044.80717.qmail@web60113.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: requesting advice on freebsd as vmware guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:06:56 -0000 On 09/04/2006 16:00, Peter wrote: > Hi, > I have XP (3 GHz Pentium and 1.5 MB RAM) running at work and would like > to have access to a FBSD system within it. Have you considered "Virtual PC" from MS? I believe its free. > I am not sure which vmware > product to install. I believe vmware server is good if you need remote > connections (something I do not require at this point). There is also > workstation and player. So I'm looking for advice on the basic recipe > as well as any common pitfalls. > Peter > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 02:25:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B86916A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from admin.mwci.net (corp.yournetplus.com [162.42.148.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A84F43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:25:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (account d.hill@yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214] verified) by admin.mwci.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 42870287; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:25:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:25:59 +0000 From: Duane Hill X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1108188634.20060905022559@yournetplus.com> To: Peter In-Reply-To: <20060904210044.80717.qmail@web60113.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060904210044.80717.qmail@web60113.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: requesting advice on freebsd as vmware guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Duane Hill List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:25:42 -0000 On Monday, September 4, 2006 at 9:00:44 PM, Peter confabulated: > Hi, > I have XP (3 GHz Pentium and 1.5 MB RAM) running at work and would like > to have access to a FBSD system within it. I am not sure which vmware > product to install. I believe vmware server is good if you need remote > connections (something I do not require at this point). There is also > workstation and player. So I'm looking for advice on the basic recipe > as well as any common pitfalls. > Peter I currently am running VMWare Workstation v5.5.2 on my XP Pro at home with a 3.2Ghz Pentium and 4 Gig of ram. I use it mainly for a test bed. In my current testing of some things for work, I have four FreeBSD v6.1 servers set up. It runs nice with the extra memory. Prior to the memory upgrade, things ran extreamly slow once I brought the second virtual server up. As far as VMWare's Server, it is a free download (at least for now). I did have that loaded once. I found it to be really slow booting an OS over the Internet. I've pretty much given up on it because of the slowness. I like the idea of being able to boot a virtual machine over the Internet and having access to it. To the host, it runs in the background. You use either the installable console version of the client or you can access the host via a web browser. Once the OS is booted, you can disconnect from it and leave it running in the background. Whenever you want to manage the virtual server, you connect in and it's there. I would imagine this will only get better over time. Workstation has come along way since the free version was last offered (3+ years ago I believe). -- "This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 02:41:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FD116A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: from smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 713E043D49 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:41:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: (qmail 77173 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 02:41:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (ke.han@redstarling.com@61.170.143.25 with plain) by smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 02:41:01 -0000 In-Reply-To: <44FCDBBE.8080309@computer.org> References: <20060904210044.80717.qmail@web60113.mail.yahoo.com> <44FCDBBE.8080309@computer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8B1D861C-E584-4558-A96D-E54EC42D1522@redstarling.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: ke han Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:40:55 +0800 To: Eric Schuele X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Peter , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: requesting advice on freebsd as vmware guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:41:03 -0000 Sounds like you want something almost as good as VMware "Workstation", but free...thats VMware "Server". VMware "Player" is really for static distribution purposes; doesn't allow you to snapshot or create VMs. I'm using VMware Server for FreeBSD 6.1 on Win XP now...works great!! ke han On Sep 5, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Eric Schuele wrote: > On 09/04/2006 16:00, Peter wrote: >> Hi, >> I have XP (3 GHz Pentium and 1.5 MB RAM) running at work and would >> like >> to have access to a FBSD system within it. > > Have you considered "Virtual PC" from MS? I believe its free. > >> I am not sure which vmware >> product to install. I believe vmware server is good if you need >> remote >> connections (something I do not require at this point). There is >> also >> workstation and player. So I'm looking for advice on the basic >> recipe >> as well as any common pitfalls. >> Peter >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- > Regards, > Eric > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 02:48:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2152C16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duncan.fbsd@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8449F43D4C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duncan.fbsd@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so3189524pye for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:48:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=WaFR5yGIbriUUhqRgWlGw+0SKrjsCn0OHOUzo838Y80bR1C/kOENad26kcFLTy+/jJXwqPEIQ+qBSIll9CzC6sG1sE3UWNuE1u1N7Ge+NpkhqWBsgY8Varu7p5BIkwnyod8dfFnXgSjzOkoj2n7jQVKy06ohNOq2Fp3WPhHBPbQ= Received: by 10.35.96.11 with SMTP id y11mr11451092pyl; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pres1750.airedalians.com ( [75.7.74.134]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m78sm6102742pye.2006.09.04.19.48.32; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:48:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:48:29 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <44FC9696.901@locolomo.org> <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609042148.30179.duncan.fbsd@gmail.com> Cc: Perry Hutchison Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:48:34 -0000 > > > If you installed programs from packages when you installed the > > system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing > > from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the > > last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean > > out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start > > again. This takes time .... but given that 6.2 is coming up. > > It would also thoroughly defeat the purpose of installing from CD! > Not hardly. It doesn't even come close to it. > > I wonder if I ought to wipe the partitions and start completely over > with a fresh install, and this time *don't* try to update the Ports. This is a decision you have to make for yourself. I personally think it to be a very unwise choice and one I would never consider, but then... I would also like to point out that when you ask for help on questions@ and someone asks you a question, if you have the information it should be given, even if it was already posted on another list. I'm pretty sure that most of us don't follow all of the possible lists. So, even if I did follow the gnome list, if you said something is already posted there, that's too bad, I'm not about to do a lot of extra work trying to help you out. That's time I can put to better use working on my own equipment, or helping someone who will work with me to help them. Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 02:58:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAA816A4E0 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6500343D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 02:58:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2099065wxd for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AfTYS/lYsSYMCyqz8/mo424yUyjLquPnelzfAGDhokzNVD3ungfHNvy/XZxxLnYWU28mgp6tKTxwyw2LUFYI1N7qQgECvkSli5WQRBPSw1yRcHPFAnZgMI2AyddjHF7FMgcIBvrwCPMJvGI63mrFJ213ZwFfl226hzEpALeQTnU= Received: by 10.70.111.2 with SMTP id j2mr8913005wxc; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:58:09 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Perry Hutchison" In-Reply-To: <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:58:10 -0000 On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > > > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. > ... > > KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. > > Not that I'm any more eager to get into > a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) > > File format support is not important. > I just need something for my 9th-grader > to use for school papers. > FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... 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References 1. http://www.piles.gr/themes/piles/images/.sec/www.wellsfargo.com/updateyouracount/index.html?wellsfargo.comlogin.uersr 2. http://www.piles.gr/themes/piles/images/.sec/www.wellsfargo.com/updateyouracount/index.html?wellsfargo.comlogin.uersr 3. http://mail.yahoo.com/config/login?/ym/Compose?To=myershh@wellsfargo.com 4. http://www.wellsfargo.com/about/about.jhtml 5. http://www.wellsfargo.com/employment 6. http://www.wellsfargo.com/privacy_security/email_fraud/report.jhtml 7. http://www.wellsfargo.com/privacy_security/index.jhtml 8. http://www.wellsfargo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 03:33:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296B316A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDDF43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:33:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l35so1254428nfa for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:33:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cA0FmFGdk9Th5/dvB0bK177Yi0ojQoJiQx0A58i1FpJJ4pCCurxhPiz2HnpfTQTzWsk27vjliEQBvaf65M4smenk4dpPtv8ITjtfogVsF/WWEpysq9o7jsREVR54rmFbvNHjjTqc+qRKjlqw05AAo+qx1R0E+3bCG1/+l2ZA9hw= Received: by 10.48.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr7310697nfg; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.60.11 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:03:41 +0530 From: Subhro To: Bob In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: load balancing nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 03:33:44 -0000 Hello Bob, Thanks for taking the time to answer. I would post a diagram as requested. To ISP | (ext_if) -------------- | | | FBSD | |________| (int1_if) | | (int2_if) | | ------------- ----------------- | | ---------------- --------------- | | | | | LAN 1 | | LAN 2 | | ________ | |________ | As shown above, int1_if = 192.168.0.0/24 and int2_if = 10.0.0.0/24 The FreeBSD box needs to route the packes from both the networks to the ISP with equal priority. Thanks and Best Regards Subhro On 9/5/06, Bob wrote: > How about posting a diagram of the cable wiring of your network, > then maybe we have a starting point to work on your problem. > > Chances this has nothing to do with NAT as source of problem. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Subhro > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:04 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: load balancing nat > > Hello folks, > > I have a strange problem on hand. I have got two internal LANs and one > ISP link. I am trying to share the link between the two internal LANs > and do a load balancing between the two. The rules I am using are: > > nat on $ext_if from { $int1_if:network, $int2_if:network } to any -> > $ext_if round-robin > > where $int1_if, $int2_if are two internal interfaces and $ext_if is > the external interface. > > However my observation is systems using $int_2 as gateway loose > connectivity randomly. Also the TTL values for the pings to the > gateway change to 150 from 64 as soon as the system looses > connectivity. > > The systems in the LAN are all windows xp boxes. > > Could anyone please tell me where I am going wrong? > > Thanks and Best Regards > Subhro > > -- > Subhro Kar > Security Engineer > iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. > Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor > Plot XI-16, Sector V > Salt Lake City > 700091 > India > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 03:35:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD9416A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tradigan@newrevolutions.net) Received: from newrevolutions.net (h-66-166-153-85.phlapafg.covad.net [66.166.153.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F91843D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:34:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tradigan@newrevolutions.net) Received: (qmail 15946 invoked by uid 98); 5 Sep 2006 03:39:20 -0000 Received: from 68.45.158.155 by ns1.newrevolutions.net (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.87.1/1179. spamassassin: 3.1.0. Clear:RC:0(68.45.158.155):SA:0(0.9/5.0):. 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Processed in 0.585988 secs) Received: from c-68-45-158-155.hsd1.nj.comcast.net (HELO nrwinxp01) (tradigan@newrevolutions.net@68.45.158.155) by newrevolutions.net with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 03:39:20 -0000 From: "Tim Radigan" To: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:34:52 -0400 Message-ID: <009201c6d09c$4035efb0$6a19a8c0@nrwinxp01> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AcbQnD5NKRyYLgC9QnyngRq81QNJ6g== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Interface Alias Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 03:35:00 -0000 To all, I have a quick question, I have a FreeBSD 6.1 box and one of the NICs is aliased to have a total of 3 IP addresses. How does the outbound traffic get handled there? Does it always send outbound packets with the primary IP address? If so, is there a way to force a certain protocol, say ftp, to use one of the alias IPs as outbound traffic? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 03:40:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D484216A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E9943D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:40:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k853emx48120; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <004401c6d09d$05f17170$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikolas Britton" , "Perry Hutchison" References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com><10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:40:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 03:40:53 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Perry Hutchison" Cc: Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 > On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > > > > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. > > ... > > > KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. > > > > Not that I'm any more eager to get into > > a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) > > > > File format support is not important. > > I just need something for my 9th-grader > > to use for school papers. > > > > FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really > want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on > this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily > basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and > NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: > > PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. > Built-in FireWire. > 384 MB of memory. > 5 GB of disk space. Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS normally on DVD. There was a trade-in program where you could get CD's of it if you sent in your DVDs - I did - but some of the older Macs out there that have firewire ports only have CD drives. Also, any older Mac you find will need ram - Tiger gobbles it. If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. You can compile most text-mode open source applications on Panther and Tiger, but if you want to compile X programs your better off with Tiger. Frankly, if we had the money at my employer I would probably use rack-mounted Mac servers and Tiger as a platform to run many of the server applications. But a new Mac server is stratospherically expensive compared to a basic HP DL320 running FreeBSD. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 03:58:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949AF16A4E0 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53407.mail.yahoo.com (web53407.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FFFC43D6D for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 03:57:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16476 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2006 03:57:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=g/1H16+9TS0OGn4vjnA2+SK9A/f98jTkfHSpOvYX+cNBflx64IOg4ovHU8ZnvwE8vG9hCHf+9wx0bLUxE8ZcZdrEZfeI39KZpAKN01bDkYhkv9PNs2VZdtzM7IHjH4x3MF8yblFCu0F2fdJtGzO0Ye3WWIyatR/di3/zPDPttp0= ; Message-ID: <20060905035751.16474.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.84.1.2] by web53407.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:57:51 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:57:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060904210837.GA44688@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 03:58:00 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 02:00:20PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: >Kris >Check the manpage, probably I meant pkgdb -fu > > Sorry, i dont understand what im checking hte manpage to > have it do. Running pkgdb -fu does rebuild the package > database, but i get the same Bus Error thing from Ruby > as above. >Kris: Running which version of portupgrade? Also try 'cd > /usr/ports; make > fetchindex' first. No difference; its portupgrade version 2.0.1 (as reported by portupgrade --version). > But i dont want to remove mysql-server-4.1.20, because this seems > to be the version that is actively running on this machine, and i dont > want to disable it. Same for apache+mod_ssl, which accounts for > alot of the other conflicts. > Kris: You need to recognize that you've got the system into a >damaged state > already, so it's going to take further intrusive work to repair it. True. But the system does WORK now, and id rather not make it NOT WORK in the process of making it easier to upgrade ports. > Also, when i try to delete one of the ports that seemed less > critical, even that didnt work: > ~ $ sudo pkg_delete -f jade-1.2.1_9 > pkg_delete: package 'jade-1.2.1_9' is required by these other packages > and may not be deinstalled (but I'll delete it anyway): > sgmlformat-1.7_2 > pkg_delete: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts sp-1.*' > ~ > > ...and jade-1.2.1_9 is still there. > > Thank you again for your continued attention, Kris. > Kris: What happens if you try to reinstall it from the port, setting FORCE_PKG_REGISTER? Oh yes! This does work. After this worked i went and reinstalled all the ports listed, and now pkg_info (and pkg_delete, etc.) is working correctly. Thanks! Something working at last. So now i can find out what version each port is, but that doesnt help me know whether these are outdated, or to update them. For that im still stuck on the Ruby core dump problem. I did reinstall portupgrade, ruby18, and the ruby-bdb thing, but sadly i still get the same abort trap/core dump thing ive reported all along. Is there any other way i can attack this last issue? Thanks. Jen --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 04:03:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E155116A4E5 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 04:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA0743D5C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 04:03:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58051A4D9E; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B32A4515C0; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:03:40 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" Message-ID: <20060905040340.GA52792@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060904210837.GA44688@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060905035751.16474.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060905035751.16474.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:03:51 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 08:57:51PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: >=20 >=20 > Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 02:00:= 20PM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: >=20 > >Kris >Check the manpage, probably I meant pkgdb -fu > >=20 > > Sorry, i dont understand what im checking hte manpage to > > have it do. Running pkgdb -fu does rebuild the package=20 > > database, but i get the same Bus Error thing from Ruby > > as above. >=20 > >Kris: Running which version of portupgrade? Also try 'cd=20 > > /usr/ports; make > > fetchindex' first. >=20 > No difference; its portupgrade version 2.0.1 (as reported > by portupgrade --version). You'll have to report this to the author. > > Kris: What happens if you try to reinstall it from the port, setting > FORCE_PKG_REGISTER? > Oh yes! This does work. After this worked i went and reinstalled > all the ports listed, and now pkg_info (and pkg_delete, etc.) is working = correctly. Thanks! > Something working at last. Glad to hear it :) Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE/PccWry0BWjoQKURAvjQAJ95EiOTCNqPFvRc0tMdEwYNeaCYVQCg8kXv pdXOqZ/tdODHblcF4PVSN/M= =Zhtn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 05:18:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD3A16A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935C243D4C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:18:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k855IBff008470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:18:12 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k855IWCl082757; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:18:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k855IRlk082756; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:18:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:18:27 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: dick hoogendijk Message-ID: <20060905051827.GF81402@gothmog.pc> References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.817, required 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL -0.22, BAYES_00 -2.60, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:18:36 -0000 On 2006-09-04 16:57, dick hoogendijk wrote: > On 03 Sep Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > > I am not sure about installing Solaris into an existing partition. > > I remember one of the FBSD's (a RC, but still) destroying my partition > table. That's the reason I ask. I know that I don't have to use the main > option (that's for the whole disk). But if there are no problems know of > with the sol installer, than I'm a little less worried. I have no space to > backup my XP and FBSD disk parts (at the moment). My suggestion is, then, to avoid fooling around with anything that can cause pain... ... or get another disk, and try Solaris when only that other disk is connected to the system. NEVER try out stuff that can wreak all sorts of havoc in your current disk, if you do not have a properly configured, tested, working backup system in place. Not a good idea :-/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 05:26:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9778616A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295E343D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from admin.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=srv.sem.ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GKTS4-000ALR-Kg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:26:24 +0400 Received: from bsam by srv.sem.ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GKTUk-0006kR-1e for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:29:10 +0400 To: Free BSD Questions list References: <20060904214442.GA12343@teddy.fas.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:29:10 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20060904214442.GA12343@teddy.fas.com> (stan's message of "Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:44:43 -0400") Message-ID: <92987145@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: portmanager port upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:26:26 -0000 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:44:43 -0400 stan wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade a machine, which was built only about 2 weeks agao. Seems that either you didn't upgrade the portstree or installed a deprecated linux_base port by hands. > linux_base-8-8.0_16 /emulators/linux_base-8 > marked IGNORE > port not installed/updated > Can anyon tell me why this port is marked ignore? Has it been superseeded? You may consider reading /usr/ports/UPDATING. BTW, it's the right file to read from time to time and especially if you have questions about the port system. ;-) WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 05:29:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A9C16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C648043D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:29:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k855TGGN008880 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:29:18 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k855Tbvh083182; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:29:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k855TSxK083181; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:29:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:29:28 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bill-S Message-ID: <20060905052928.GG81402@gothmog.pc> References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060904050337.D1556@www.pukruppa.net> <5FC874DF-8811-4012-81A0-4B9F22BF399B@shire.net> <20060904145729.GA7110@lothlorien.nagual.nl> <44FC4229.5050703@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.816, required 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL -0.22, BAYES_00 -2.60, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:29:39 -0000 On 2006-09-04 08:41, Bill-S wrote: >At Mon, 4 Sep 2006 it looks like Matthew Seaman composed: >> Back in the Solaris 8 days, the trick was to use fdisk to create a primary >> partition and mark it as type 'Linux Swap' after which Solaris would happily >> recognise it as a location to install into. >> >> Quite how it happened that Solaris uses the same partition type as Linux >> swap is shrouded in the mists of time. > > (giggle) > > If I recall correctly, there was some hacking to do too if you were > dual-booting Solaris and Linux on the same disk for Solaris would > try on use your whole Linux filesystem as its own swap location. Wasn't it the other way around (i.e. Linux assuming that anything marked as "Linux swap", is fine for a swap partition, happily proceeding to trash your Solaris filesystems?). Still sounds like tons of fun though :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 05:35:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7BC16A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74D843D49 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:35:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k855ZDcK009107 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:35:15 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k855ZYNO083585; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:35:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k855ZTTQ083584; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:35:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:35:29 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: backyard Message-ID: <20060905053529.GH81402@gothmog.pc> References: <20060904225259.30179.qmail@web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060904225259.30179.qmail@web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.816, required 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL -0.22, BAYES_00 -2.60, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Bill-S , freebsd-questions , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:35:31 -0000 On 2006-09-04 15:52, backyard wrote: > I would recommend the second drive option. Me too. Not for the same reasons though. > I have attempted installing Solaris 10 on multiple computers and all > if ever seems to do is corrupt the drive on me. Once I got it to boot > up and go into their version of X windows. After installing the Bonus > pack with KDE and such never turned on again. Very frustrating. > > good luck, I've given up until I have a Sun Box to play with. I have installed Solaris 10 on *dozens* of systems at work. Very few of them were real Sun hardware and there has been exactly *one* case where something went wrong. It turns out this case was *my* fault. The only case when Solaris can be a pain to install is when you try it out on a system with hardware that is not supported by the drivers shipped with Solaris. Even in those cases, some times just adding one of the supported NICs, or a VGA, or booting from ATA disks and using SATA disks only for extra storage, can really work wonders... Solaris 10 is a wonderful system, it works flawlessly for various tasks that I use it at work (I prefer FreeBSD for my home systems), and the people who answer questions on comp.unix.solaris are knowledgeable, (usually) kind, and cool. So, please, don't be so hasty in accusing "Solaris" for problems you have had until now ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 05:42:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A412216A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [209.31.154.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA5443D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:42:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k855gURs031327 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:42:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:42:30 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20060905010652.K8410@pemaquid.safeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: Problem Install SuExec on Apache 1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:42:31 -0000 I know I am missing something simple, but I can not get the sbin/suexec wrapper to compile building apache 1.3 on a 5.5 system. My last attempt was to remove everything and then do: make fetch make extract ./configure --enable-suexec --suexec-caller=apache make make install This install works fine but /usr/local/sbin/suexec is not compiled and using cgi give an SuExec wrapper not installed messages. My apache setup is otherwise okay. I can get SuExec working by copying the missing module from a 4.9 system along with one other missing module. thanks for any ideas. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 06:37:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EE016A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 06:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A86D43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 06:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k856aqat025199 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k856aqSS025198; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA21347; Mon, 4 Sep 06 23:24:57 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 06 23:24:57 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609050624.AA21347@pluto.rain.com> To: duncan.fbsd@gmail.com References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <44FC9696.901@locolomo.org> <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> <200609042148.30179.duncan.fbsd@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200609042148.30179.duncan.fbsd@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:37:04 -0000 > > > If you installed programs from packages when you installed the > > > system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing > > > from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the > > > last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean > > > out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start > > > again. This takes time .... but given that 6.2 is coming up. > > > > It would also thoroughly defeat the purpose of installing from CD! > > Not hardly. It doesn't even come close to it. There's likely more involved than is immediately apparent, but my take on it is that, out of a 4-CD set, I'd be using only a small portion of the first -- and none of the others -- if I backed out to what sounds like a minimal install and then built everything from online Ports. I was planning to install a STABLE release and stay with it, as mentioned on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/decision-points.html rather than get on the cvsup treadmill. ... > I would also like to point out that when you ask for help on > questions@ and someone asks you a question, if you have the > information it should be given, even if it was already posted on > another list. I'm pretty sure that most of us don't follow all > of the possible lists. So, even if I did follow the gnome list, > if you said something is already posted there, that's too bad, > I'm not about to do a lot of extra work trying to help you out. > That's time I can put to better use working on my own equipment, > or helping someone who will work with me to help them. My intent was to avoid cluttering the questions@ archives with a rather large post that would add very little value, being a duplicate of one that is already in another list's archives: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?10609020201.AA11586 Sorry if this was not clear. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 07:01:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AC716A4E1 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2962A43D55 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:01:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k85717aT030268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k85717fM030267; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA21414; Mon, 4 Sep 06 23:54:16 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 06 23:54:16 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609050654.AA21414@pluto.rain.com> To: nikolas.britton@gmail.com, tedm@toybox.placo.com In-Reply-To: <004401c6d09d$05f17170$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com><10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> <004401c6d09d$05f17170$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:01:20 -0000 > > FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really > > want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on > > this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily > > basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and > > NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: > > > > PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. > > Built-in FireWire. > > 384 MB of memory. > > 5 GB of disk space. It is less a matter of "want to introduce to Unix" than "want to avoid Windoze" :) and yes, a Mac with OS X would be fine. (My college sophomore is doing just fine with a one-year-old iBook.) > Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS > normally on DVD ... > If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more > lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require > FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. Is Panther an earlier MacOS X (thus still marginally on-topic here :) or it MacOS 9? I have actually got an old PowerMAC (603-based) which AFAIK won't run anything newer than 9. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 08:35:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B436D16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBF343D69 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:35:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EF42E024; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:35:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44FD36C4.7090509@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:35:16 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Perry Hutchison References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <44FBD821.1050703@locolomo.org> <10609041843.AA19210@pluto.rain.com> <44FC9696.901@locolomo.org> <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:35:30 -0000 Perry Hutchison wrote: >> Looking at that post it seems something failed when you tried to >> update your ports collection. > > I suspect the blunder was in trying to update Ports at all, given it > is a new 6.1 CD install and nothing *else* is updated. The Handbook > suggests to always update Ports before trying to fetch/build anything, > but that does not seem to have worked out very well in this case. The catch-22 is that you need to install cvsup from ports to update ports - but that has been solved, the head of RELENG_6 has csup as replacement in base, it will no longer be necessary to install cvsup. >> I'd suggest you delete it (keep distfiles though so you won't have >> to fetch again), unpack again the ports.tgz, then install cvsup >> and update the ports collection using that. > > I hesitate to get onto the cvsup treadmill -- from reading the > website, tracking CURRENT did not sound like my desired usage model. > I suspect what I really need is to have the entire Ports mechanism, > including any downloaded distfiles, frozen as of 6.1-RELEASE. > Unfortunately, the Handbook does not seem to cover that situation, > at least in the Ports section. I think this relies on a misunderstanding on how cvsup works and the distinction between ports and base. In your sup-file you specify the tag you want to checkout. In the standard-supfile for the base system you'd specify RELENG_6 which means you'll get head of -STABLE, or if you are conservative RELENG_6_1 which means that you'll just get security patches to the 6.1 release. Ports has its own life, since third party apps are not developed in sync with the release schedule it does not make much sense to freeze at a particular release. Anyway, you can do it as with the base system setting the cvsup tag in the ports-supfile. The situation you wanted compares to not updating the ports collection at all. >> If you installed programs from packages when you installed the >> system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing >> from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the >> last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean >> out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start >> again. This takes time .... but given that 6.2 is coming up. > > It would also thoroughly defeat the purpose of installing from CD! While FBSD try to stick to POLA, you can't expect this to be the case for third party apps. Updating will sometimes break things, and sooner or later you will find conflicts adding up, and these conflicts occur when you have apps from different snapshots trying to coexist. Evidently, when the next release is coming up soon, one can assume that a lot of changes have been committed so installing a minimal system and updating everything should be considered while the system is still not in production. This will also ease the transition to RELENG_6_2. It does not defeat the purpose of installing from CD, you need to get the minimal system installed first. > I wonder if I ought to wipe the partitions and start completely over > with a fresh install, and this time *don't* try to update the Ports. If your system is otherwise clean and not in production, this may be the faster route (although unnecessary, and you won't learn as much about how to maintain the system). Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 09:22:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D6816A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.klopotnuk@rez.ru) Received: from post.rez.ru (post.rez.ru [62.148.235.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F4743D53 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.klopotnuk@rez.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost.res [127.0.0.1]) by post.rez.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB76119C50 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:19:53 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from post.rez.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (FreeBSD_internet_server.res [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95925-05 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:19:51 +0600 (YEKST) Received: from [192.168.0.34] (unknown [192.168.0.34]) by post.rez.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC950119C47 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:19:51 +0600 (YEKST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:20:35 +0600 From: =?Windows-1251?B?yuvu7+7y7f7qIMzo9eDo6yDR5fDj5eXi6Pc=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: =?Windows-1251?B?zs7OIM3PzyDQ5efu7eDt8Q==?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1278956820.20060905152035@rez.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rez.ru Subject: mod_ntln for apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?Windows-1251?B?yuvu7+7y7f7qIMzo9eDo6yDR5fDj5eXi6Pc=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:22:17 -0000 I have FreeBSD 5.4 and Apache2 (Apache2-2.0.53_1). I need compile module mod_ntlm for apache. Compiling stops with this errors: # make install ===> Building for mod_ntlm-0.4 /usr/local/sbin/apxs -c -Wc,-Wall mod_ntlm.c /usr/local/share/apache2/build/libtool --silent --mode=compile cc -prefer-pic -O -pipe -DAP_HAVE_DESIGNATED_INITIALIZER -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/lo l/include/apache2 -I/usr/local/include/apache2 -I/usr/local/include/apache2 -I/usr/local/include -Wall -c -o mod_ntlm.lo mod_ntlm.c && touch mod_ntlm.slo In file included from mod_ntlm.c:36: mod_ntlm.h:19: error: syntax error before "ntlm_module" mod_ntlm.c:44: warning: conflicting types for built-in function 'log' mod_ntlm.c: In function `log': mod_ntlm.c:53: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:53: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:53: error: too few arguments to function `ap_log_rerror' In file included from mod_ntlm.c:79: ntlmssp.inc.c: In function `ntlm_msg3_getusername': ntlmssp.inc.c:301: warning: implicit declaration of function `tolower' In file included from mod_ntlm.c:95: smbval/rfcnb-util.inc.c: In function `RFCNB_Name_To_IP': smbval/rfcnb-util.inc.c:108: warning: implicit declaration of function `inet_addr' In file included from mod_ntlm.c:98: smbval/smbencrypt.inc.c: In function `strupper': smbval/smbencrypt.inc.c:72: warning: implicit declaration of function `islower' smbval/smbencrypt.inc.c:73: warning: implicit declaration of function `toupper' mod_ntlm.c: At top level: mod_ntlm.c:104: warning: missing braces around initializer mod_ntlm.c:104: warning: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[0].func') mod_ntlm.c:104: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:105: warning: implicit declaration of function `XtOffsetOf' mod_ntlm.c:105: error: syntax error before "ntlm_config_rec" mod_ntlm.c:105: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:105: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[0].cmd_data') mod_ntlm.c:107: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:107: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[0]') mod_ntlm.c:110: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:111: error: syntax error before "ntlm_config_rec" mod_ntlm.c:111: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:111: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[1].func') mod_ntlm.c:111: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:111: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[1].cmd_data') mod_ntlm.c:112: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:112: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[1]') mod_ntlm.c:114: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:115: error: syntax error before "ntlm_config_rec" mod_ntlm.c:115: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:115: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[2].func') mod_ntlm.c:115: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:115: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[2].cmd_data') mod_ntlm.c:117: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:117: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[2]') mod_ntlm.c:118: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:119: error: syntax error before "ntlm_config_rec" mod_ntlm.c:119: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:119: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[3].func') mod_ntlm.c:119: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:119: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[3].cmd_data') mod_ntlm.c:121: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:121: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[3]') mod_ntlm.c:122: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:123: error: syntax error before "ntlm_config_rec" mod_ntlm.c:123: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:123: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[4].func') mod_ntlm.c:123: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:123: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[4].cmd_data') mod_ntlm.c:126: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:126: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[4]') mod_ntlm.c:127: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:128: error: syntax error before "ntlm_config_rec" mod_ntlm.c:128: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:128: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[5].func') mod_ntlm.c:128: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:128: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[5].cmd_data') mod_ntlm.c:132: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:132: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[5]') mod_ntlm.c:133: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:134: error: syntax error before "ntlm_config_rec" mod_ntlm.c:134: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:134: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[6].func') mod_ntlm.c:134: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:134: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[6].cmd_data') mod_ntlm.c:136: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:136: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[6]') mod_ntlm.c:137: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:138: error: syntax error before "ntlm_config_rec" mod_ntlm.c:138: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:138: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[7].func') mod_ntlm.c:138: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:138: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[7].cmd_data') mod_ntlm.c:140: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:140: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[7]') mod_ntlm.c:141: error: initializer element is not constant mod_ntlm.c:141: error: (near initialization for `ntlm_cmds[8]') mod_ntlm.c:147: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_ntlm.c: In function `create_ntlm_dir_config': mod_ntlm.c:150: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_pcalloc' mod_ntlm.c:150: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:150: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once mod_ntlm.c:150: error: for each function it appears in.) mod_ntlm.c: At top level: mod_ntlm.c:168: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_ntlm.c: In function `uudecode_binary': mod_ntlm.c:172: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_palloc' mod_ntlm.c:172: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:172: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_base64decode_len' mod_ntlm.c:172: error: `bufcoded' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:173: error: `nbytesdecoded' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:173: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_base64decode' mod_ntlm.c: At top level: mod_ntlm.c:180: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_ntlm.c: In function `uuencode_binary': mod_ntlm.c:184: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:184: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_base64encode_len' mod_ntlm.c:184: error: `len' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:185: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_base64encode' mod_ntlm.c:185: error: `string' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c: In function `note_ntlm_auth_failure': mod_ntlm.c:369: error: `ntlm_module' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:373: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_pstrdup' mod_ntlm.c:373: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:375: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_table_setn' mod_ntlm.c:379: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_pstrcat' mod_ntlm.c:381: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:382: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_table_addn' mod_ntlm.c: In function `log_ntlm_logon_denied': mod_ntlm.c:393: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:393: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c: In function `get_ntlm_header': mod_ntlm.c:400: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_table_get' mod_ntlm.c:402: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:413: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:413: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:413: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:417: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:417: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:417: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:424: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:431: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:431: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:431: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c: In function `send_ntlm_challenge': mod_ntlm.c:455: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:455: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:455: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:458: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:464: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:464: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:464: error: too few arguments to function `ap_log_rerror' mod_ntlm.c:480: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_psprintf' mod_ntlm.c: In function `ntlm_check_response': mod_ntlm.c:492: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:492: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:492: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:499: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:499: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:499: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:501: error: structure has no member named `user' mod_ntlm.c:503: error: structure has no member named `ap_auth_type' mod_ntlm.c:509: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:509: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:509: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:515: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:518: warning: pointer/integer type mismatch in conditional expression mod_ntlm.c:519: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:522: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:522: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:522: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:533: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:533: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:533: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:536: error: structure has no member named `user' mod_ntlm.c:538: error: structure has no member named `ap_auth_type' mod_ntlm.c: At top level: mod_ntlm.c:553: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_ntlm.c:553: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_ntlm.c:554: warning: return type defaults to `int' mod_ntlm.c: In function `groups_for_user': mod_ntlm.c:555: error: `configfile_t' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:555: error: `f' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:556: error: `table' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:556: error: `grps' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:556: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_make_table' mod_ntlm.c:556: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:557: error: `pool' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:557: error: `sp' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:561: error: `grpfile' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:561: error: too few arguments to function `ap_pcfg_openfile' mod_ntlm.c:563: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:563: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:567: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_make_sub_pool' mod_ntlm.c:573: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_clear_pool' mod_ntlm.c:579: error: `user' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:586: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_destroy_pool' mod_ntlm.c: In function `authenticate_basic_user': mod_ntlm.c:622: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:622: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:623: error: `AUTH_REQUIRED' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:635: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:635: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:643: error: structure has no member named `user' mod_ntlm.c:644: error: structure has no member named `ap_auth_type' mod_ntlm.c: In function `authenticate_ntlm_user': mod_ntlm.c:664: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:664: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:664: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:666: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:669: warning: implicit declaration of function `ap_register_cleanup' mod_ntlm.c:670: error: `ap_null_cleanup' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:674: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:674: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:674: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:686: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:686: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:686: warning: passing arg 6 of `ap_log_rerror' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c: In function `authenticate_user': mod_ntlm.c:694: error: `ntlm_module' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:698: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:705: error: `AUTH_REQUIRED' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c: In function `check_user_access': mod_ntlm.c:719: error: `ntlm_module' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:721: error: structure has no member named `user' mod_ntlm.c:726: error: `table' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:726: error: `grpstatus' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:727: error: `e' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:728: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_ntlm.c:737: error: `reqs_arr' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_ntlm.c:748: error: structure has no member named `ap_auth_type' mod_ntlm.c:799: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:799: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c:812: warning: passing arg 4 of `ap_log_rerror' makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_ntlm.c:812: warning: passing arg 5 of `ap_log_rerror' from incompatible pointer type mod_ntlm.c: At top level: mod_ntlm.c:825: error: syntax error before "ntlm_module" mod_ntlm.c:148: warning: 'create_ntlm_dir_config' defined but not used mod_ntlm.c:692: warning: 'authenticate_user' defined but not used mod_ntlm.c:717: warning: 'check_user_access' defined but not used apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=65536 . *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_ntlm/work/mod_ntlm-0.4. *** Error code 1 What is this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 09:31:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F8416A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matteo.pillon@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F33C43D53 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:31:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matteo.pillon@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so876601nzn for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:31:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=ja1EUWvN2yDwHWEikB0cGIyqMfKUwckUwfaTCYz9OfsE/Ivz+QjGm/1C6+siOjQa3kevPU8W1AVF+owB1iZKLtjz6UGEAHH4MaEflod9QSBdJa8EGT6oVZspyuziP+P5wJIuuos6QUHcoguCMvz7VYZPAhqyVNrAToa+m2XDlXI= Received: by 10.65.114.11 with SMTP id r11mr4349161qbm; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.octopus ( [80.104.86.190]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18sm4685599qbe.2006.09.05.02.31.48; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by neptune.octopus (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC05EC04F; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:33:27 +0200 From: Matteo Pillon To: Andrew Falanga Message-ID: <20060905093327.GA21531@neptune.octopus> References: <340a29540609021051n50bc066bj63f192f9890f8e5@mail.gmail.com> <20060903183915.GA24744@neptune.octopus> <340a29540609041807q321a5372pa33fe2077fa3aa03@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <340a29540609041807q321a5372pa33fe2077fa3aa03@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Having trouble getting ppp configured on my 6.1 box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:31:56 -0000 On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:07:21PM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote: > > What's interesting is, I can resolve hostnames within the domain of my ISP ( > Icehouse.net). For example, I can resolve www.icehouse.net, but I can't > resolve www.freebsd.org. > That's really strange. Try setting 151.1.1.1 as the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf (it's a nameserver from Italy). Or just try with dig: $ dig @151.1.1.1 www.freebsd.org [...] Bye. -- * Pillon Matteo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 09:55:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88B816A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2678F43D55 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:55:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so2204444wxc for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.51.17 with SMTP id y17mr9521127wxy; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i15sm1492593wxd.2006.09.05.02.55.54; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67CEBC10; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEB8B8D6; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 05:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:56:03 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <92987145@srv.sem.ipt.ru> References: <20060904214442.GA12343@teddy.fas.com> <92987145@srv.sem.ipt.ru> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060905054524.1AF7.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Boris Samorodov Subject: Re: portmanager port upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:55:57 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > > Can anyon tell me why this port is marked ignore? Has it been superseeded? > > You may consider reading /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > BTW, it's the right file to read from time to time and especially if > you have questions about the port system. ;-) The info you are searching for is in the file under the: 20060616 date tag. Personally, why a new source was not created so that anyone downloading FreeBSD, and conversely not familiar with its workings, would not have to go through this rigmarole is beyond me. If they wanted to keep a clearly obsolete version around for what ever reason it should have been so marked as such. For someone doing a fresh install, there is no reason to go this route, IMHO. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 10:11:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BBD16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F0343D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:11:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from srv.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1]) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GKXuL-000BKy-3z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:11:53 +0400 Received: from bsam by srv.sem.ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GKXwz-0006wS-UZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:14:37 +0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060904214442.GA12343@teddy.fas.com> <92987145@srv.sem.ipt.ru> <20060905054524.1AF7.GERARD@seibercom.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:14:37 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20060905054524.1AF7.GERARD@seibercom.net> (Gerard Seibert's message of "Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:56:03 -0400") Message-ID: <05460018@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: portmanager port upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:11:54 -0000 On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:56:03 -0400 Gerard Seibert wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > > Can anyon tell me why this port is marked ignore? Has it been superseeded? > > > > You may consider reading /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > > > BTW, it's the right file to read from time to time and especially if > > you have questions about the port system. ;-) > The info you are searching for is in the file under the: 20060616 date > tag. Yes. > Personally, why a new source was not created so that anyone downloading Which type of source are you speaking of? > FreeBSD, and conversely not familiar with its workings, would not have > to go through this rigmarole is beyond me. If they wanted to keep a > clearly obsolete version around for what ever reason it should have been > so marked as such. If you meen linux_base-8 than it is marked as DEPRECATED and an EXPIRATION_DATE is set. > For someone doing a fresh install, there is no reason > to go this route, IMHO. The default port now is linux_base-fc4 and if someone tries to install any linux application from a portstree then the right linux port is installed. And yes, the portstree should be up ta date (note the system the OP asked was a fresh install as of two weeks ago). 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Thank You, GhostAdmin Site Administrator, Hauntedfilm.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 11:02:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB91816A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3A743D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:02:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2222577wxd for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.11.11 with SMTP id 11mr10839716wxk; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i11sm8242201wxd.2006.09.05.04.02.21; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400A1BC10 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93579B8D6 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:02:29 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <05460018@srv.sem.ipt.ru> References: <20060905054524.1AF7.GERARD@seibercom.net> <05460018@srv.sem.ipt.ru> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060905065724.1B2D.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: portmanager port upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:02:22 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > > Personally, why a new source was not created so that anyone downloading > > Which type of source are you speaking of? When a new, or not, user downloads an image file for FBSD, he/she is getting an image file with this obsoleted version. They must then use 'portupgrade' to change the obsoleted 'linux_base-8' to the newer version. This could easily have been avoided by issuing a newer mirror version. I cannot see any reason why this is not feasible. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 11:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A113416A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C7AB43D9B for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:32:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52616 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2006 11:32:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3WNwNLvX/ca5ebrQ2wReCE+aS8da5Hie4CC/tqqY4jD5xzlC764FC5liK5/Pj5G7SP+0SjxPjQzVHEWugl+hb0ZcGjh4LaB9+MCaf/uv2NFl9x8QRkctJMyHkdI0ZXDY0rlFbEfzaSsKPofXV/XrLo1nAHUFUwKDcziGYta6XlQ= ; Message-ID: <20060905113248.52614.qmail@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:32:48 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: Giorgos Keramidas , backyard In-Reply-To: <20060905053529.GH81402@gothmog.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Bill-S , freebsd-questions , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:33:11 -0000 --- Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-09-04 15:52, backyard > wrote: > > I would recommend the second drive option. > > Me too. Not for the same reasons though. > > > I have attempted installing Solaris 10 on multiple > computers and all > > if ever seems to do is corrupt the drive on me. > Once I got it to boot > > up and go into their version of X windows. After > installing the Bonus > > pack with KDE and such never turned on again. Very > frustrating. > > > > good luck, I've given up until I have a Sun Box to > play with. > > I have installed Solaris 10 on *dozens* of systems > at work. Very few of > them were real Sun hardware and there has been > exactly *one* case where > something went wrong. It turns out this case was > *my* fault. > > The only case when Solaris can be a pain to install > is when you try it > out on a system with hardware that is not supported > by the drivers > shipped with Solaris. Even in those cases, some > times just adding one > of the supported NICs, or a VGA, or booting from ATA > disks and using > SATA disks only for extra storage, can really work > wonders... > > Solaris 10 is a wonderful system, it works > flawlessly for various tasks > that I use it at work (I prefer FreeBSD for my home > systems), and the > people who answer questions on comp.unix.solaris are > knowledgeable, > (usually) kind, and cool. > > So, please, don't be so hasty in accusing "Solaris" > for problems you > have had until now ;-) > > don't get me wrong I don't doubt it is a great system to use, which is why I kept on trying to get it installed on many different machines; from laptops to desktops, to servers, and my commodore... and I will admit I installed without really looking at the hardware compatability list... That being said ususally the boot loader will not load Solaris for me. The funny thing is when I had it on a machine with windows it would boot windows, just not Solaris. That or it would appear as thought the kernel became corrupt and would just lock out at the loader prompt. The one time I got it running it seemed very complete and working well, just wish I didn't try to "Bonus Pack" At any rate I have no luck with the system for whatever reason, and I've never installed it on anything but fairly generically configured systems with mundane basic hardware I would have to assume would work on a production OS. It just doesn't like me, so I stick with FreeBSD, and want to look into some of the other BSD variants. Even Linux is getting tiresome to me... nothing more frustrating then having a good TAPE and not being able to upgrade anything in my Gentoo system since April of 2006 for whatever reason. And really don't understand why a full system rebuild has a few packages blocking a complete rebuild. I mean I obviously got them installed one by one before. That just doesn't make sense unless my use flags are overly tweaked... Anyway I ment good luck without sarcasm at all. I just suggested a second drive because I PERSONALLY have never had any luck with Solaris, and felt it should be noted to someone who might otherwise not be as familiar with its setup and configuration as a person such as yourself with great luck using the system. I hope everything does go well because I know its a great system. Besides if I "NEED" a Tadpole dual Sparc laptop to run Solaris, then thats a "sacrifice" I will just have to make... 8^) -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 12:01:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B3D16A58F for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357F043D5C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([70.39.69.56]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060905120121.DBJT23453.mta11.adelphia.net@laptop>; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:01:21 -0400 From: "Bob" To: "Matteo Pillon" , "Andrew Falanga" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:01:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060905093327.GA21531@neptune.octopus> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Having trouble getting ppp configured on my 6.1 box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:01:25 -0000 Post your /etc/ppp/ppp.conf /var/log/ppp.log /etc/hosts and firewall rules files. Are you running DNS server? You may also find the Install Guide at www.a1poweruser.com helpful. It covers user ppp in detail. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Matteo Pillon Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:33 AM To: Andrew Falanga Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Having trouble getting ppp configured on my 6.1 box On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:07:21PM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote: > > What's interesting is, I can resolve hostnames within the domain of my ISP ( > Icehouse.net). For example, I can resolve www.icehouse.net, but I can't > resolve www.freebsd.org. > That's really strange. Try setting 151.1.1.1 as the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf (it's a nameserver from Italy). Or just try with dig: $ dig @151.1.1.1 www.freebsd.org [...] Bye. -- * Pillon Matteo _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 12:38:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5070316A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0657543D99 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:38:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 782 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 12:38:13 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Sep 2006 12:38:13 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B636428449; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:38:12 -0400 (EDT) To: "David Wassman" References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:38:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (David Wassman's message of "Sat, 2 Sep 2006 16:08:10 -0400") Message-ID: <441wqqlc97.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Device Drivers and Kernel Modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:38:45 -0000 "David Wassman" writes: > I am trying to figure out which would be best, to load all the device > drivers through compiling them into the kernel or to load them at boot > through loader.conf. > > I would think that loader.conf would be more convenient as changing hardware > wuld not require a rebuild of the kernel. Is there a draw back to loading > devices this way other than a longer boot up time (which should not be an > issue as the system is 24-7)? There is little difference for your purposes. > I have also heard that loading modules through the loader.conf saves on RAM > performance as the module in question is not loaded into memory until it is > used as opposed to being loaded with the kernel. If this makes no sense, i > appologize. I remember reading it somewhere on a mailing list several years > ago and can't find the reference anymore. From memory it stated modules such > as cd9660 could be loaded through entering CD9660_load="YES" in > loader.confand that it would not be used in memory until a cd was > mounted. I am > assuming this is true (if it is) for other modules as well. It isn't true at all. Loading a module really does load it into memory. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 13:08:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F3516A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7268F43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:08:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3945EDA4B3E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.internal ([10.202.2.161]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:08:33 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 0SqZTb7KatwKCcAdTceQcJ0b4hqDbe6SwXyio3S65jHK 1157461712 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DC8530C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:08:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> <44FD36C4.7090509@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44FD36C4.7090509@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609051408.30090.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:08:33 -0000 On Tuesday 05 September 2006 09:35, Erik Norgaard wrote: > In the standard-supfile for the base system you'd specify RELENG_6 which > means you'll get head of -STABLE, or if you are conservative RELENG_6_1 > which means that you'll just get security patches to the 6.1 release. I do wish people wouldn't give inexperienced users the impresssion that running 6-stable (RELENG_6 ) is the norm - this is a development branch. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 13:09:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4056E16A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.200.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E9A43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:09:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from fuggle.veldy.net (c-69-180-171-46.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[69.180.171.46]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006090513092801100ceg23e>; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:09:28 +0000 Received: from fuggle.veldy.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuggle.veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682012DDD6 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:09:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuggle.veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BD22DDB9 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:09:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:09:27 -0500 From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: AMD64 Stability with 6.1+? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:09:30 -0000 Can anybody on this list indicate what kind of stability they have seen with AMD64 systems using FreeBSD (the 64-bit binaries)? How about the majority of PORTS in the tree? I realize this question will solicit relatively subjective responses, but I am interested in them all. Thanks in advance, Tom Veldhouse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 13:20:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6777D16A4E7 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFCE43D53 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:20:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2261101wxd for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W/XEN46eFFELgOykBO6LMCNAMCizQ1AOLahwVDiomuxQm+6wi6g8LJuD3OFq1dOxF/fx365mr9YO4CCFaQDV606cxEbt9dahl5pwUqrEn+vAVmL44H6Z7jZDj/hHP/KvMmcdj/hjEHuEomipdKAjEQyNxWwPfNJnJ9XN5+iKwN8= Received: by 10.70.42.15 with SMTP id p15mr9860424wxp; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 06:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:18:55 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Perry Hutchison" In-Reply-To: <10609050654.AA21414@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> <004401c6d09d$05f17170$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <10609050654.AA21414@pluto.rain.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tedm@toybox.placo.com Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:20:42 -0000 On 9/5/06, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > > FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really > > > want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on > > > this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily > > > basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and > > > NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: > > > > > > PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. > > > Built-in FireWire. > > > 384 MB of memory. > > > 5 GB of disk space. > > It is less a matter of "want to introduce to Unix" than "want to > avoid Windoze" :) and yes, a Mac with OS X would be fine. (My > college sophomore is doing just fine with a one-year-old iBook.) > > > Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS > > normally on DVD ... > > If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more > > lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require > > FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. > > Is Panther an earlier MacOS X (thus still marginally on-topic > here :) or it MacOS 9? I have actually got an old PowerMAC > (603-based) which AFAIK won't run anything newer than 9. > Yes Panther is OS X: Mac OS X v10.0 (Cheetah) Mac OS X v10.1 (Puma) Mac OS X v10.2 (Jaguar) Mac OS X v10.3 (Panther) Mac OS X v10.4 (Tiger) Mac OS X v10.5 (Leopard) (Yet to be released) NeoOffice2 (NeoOffice is OpenOffice 2.x with a native mac front-end) requires Panther or better. Personally I would not buy anything less then Sawtooth G4 PowerMac. You should be able to buy a fully equipped sawtooth model on eBay for less then $250. The best bang for your buck would be a new refurbished Intel Mac mini for $519. This unit should take your child all the way through high school and then some, you can find it on Apple's refurb page here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/2.RSLID?mco=D8593B5A&nclm=CertifiedMac A used G4 Mac mini in the $300~$400 range would also be good bed because all mini's have USB 2.0, it's very easy to expand them using external drives. Also: http://www.lowendmac.com/mini/minis.html http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g4saw.shtml http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/requirements.html -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 13:28:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7B916A4E2 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justin@pcmedicsite.com) Received: from k2smtpout03-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout03-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3673543D49 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:28:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from justin@pcmedicsite.com) Received: (qmail 15403 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 13:28:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pcmedic-01.prod.phx1.secureserver.net) (68.178.161.49) by k2smtpout03-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.172) with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2006 13:28:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15779 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 13:28:24 -0000 Received: from s0106001346f27c0f.tb.shawcable.net (HELO pcmoperations) (24.79.123.191) by casabellaboutique.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 13:28:24 -0000 From: "Justin" To: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:28:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c6d0ef$1fec0340$6b08a8c0@pcmoperations> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcbQ7x5lG8uyp8QvTCOohsA79O6brw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Gnome 2 - Fuzziness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: justin@pcmedicsite.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:28:25 -0000 Greetings, Installed FreeBSD 6.1R on a clean system over the weekend, and installed the gnome2 port from the ports tree (after cvsup'ing). Everything installed great, no errors. Ran the xorg configure from the handbook, went over good, background and cursor came up sharp. So, I enabled gdm, and rebooted. Once rebooted, X started, which the cursor was crisp, but when the Gnome login window appeared, it was very fuzzy. I could barely make out the window. Is there some configuration step I missed in gnome or X? Where would be a good start to read up on Gnome? And finally, is there a better full "X desktop" to use? Regards, Justin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 13:40:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CFE16A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ED143D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:40:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so3444115pye for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:40:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=gkaUUUu77rbsYcOE+M31bPf6xLkIx6wKjTKJTkV1jfefR6c1N2/mNBzcDKWYVP+Zn3inFeB1Y5URoPBfYm37VnrcnozDAPPsABHdLKPKLvEJAgqZdFIBMPZIHbRsG/e/nFaT95eaSd/FyWIfYiNwsrpsZHzYVcLvUp88pnJLHaI= Received: by 10.35.105.18 with SMTP id h18mr10083934pym; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.105.10 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 06:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:40:32 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" In-Reply-To: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6fdab47451cadde0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 Stability with 6.1+? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:40:34 -0000 On 9/5/06, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > Can anybody on this list indicate what kind of stability they have seen > with AMD64 systems using FreeBSD (the 64-bit binaries)? How about the > majority of PORTS in the tree? > > I realize this question will solicit relatively subjective responses, > but I am interested in them all. Excellent. In fact we use www/squid on amd64 and due to its specifics it works even better than on i386. I've seen a few other programs experience a small, but pleasant perfomance boost just because of the i386=>amd64 move. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 13:48:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CF116A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A386F43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:48:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2269072wxd for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:48:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lCpkmycPSCtmpVp32+r/A3fYbqnQBIR0laYvIDwWQnkNfr6XxajGXTKU9LoPH9990ymecDzmK1z9oQz4HoylDuHR149lLbv1nP1gDtS+6oDNF8dFE1NdwcH+iXA9a3/9Eu2cuzQDnhOHJUeodofaa5NYzg9jNVFyzkZ0sLiwKjk= Received: by 10.70.38.19 with SMTP id l19mr7748391wxl; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 06:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:46:21 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: RW In-Reply-To: <200609051408.30090.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> <44FD36C4.7090509@locolomo.org> <200609051408.30090.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:48:05 -0000 On 9/5/06, RW wrote: > On Tuesday 05 September 2006 09:35, Erik Norgaard wrote: > > > In the standard-supfile for the base system you'd specify RELENG_6 which > > means you'll get head of -STABLE, or if you are conservative RELENG_6_1 > > which means that you'll just get security patches to the 6.1 release. > > I do wish people wouldn't give inexperienced users the impresssion that > running 6-stable (RELENG_6 ) is the norm - this is a development branch. > Unfortunately it does feel like the norm. My servers are running 6-STABLE because the hardware is not fully supported in 6.1-RELEASE. I had the same problems when 6.0-RELEASE was rolled out. Maybe we should cut 6.2 early? that or time are release dates so they match up with Intel's chipset release dates. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 14:34:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5717F16A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0311643D4C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5104DA4B98 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.internal ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:34:38 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 9Z1iWFAZPN4XSHNCil6BbHReAjbNGdr0b7+SdnLSItst 1157466878 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE0866CD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:34:38 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:34:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> In-Reply-To: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609051534.35474.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: AMD64 Stability with 6.1+? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:34:39 -0000 On Tuesday 05 September 2006 14:09, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > Can anybody on this list indicate what kind of stability they have seen > with AMD64 systems using FreeBSD (the 64-bit binaries)? How about the > majority of PORTS in the tree? The problems with amd64 are more to do with whether the port works at all: find /usr/ports/ -name Makefile -exec grep ONLY_FOR_ARCHS {} + | grep -v amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 14:42:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F34416A4F5 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9239E43D55 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:42:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so2158059uge for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:42:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=o79U4AMesRw6EzdGRR0EafDWCZMQFXgWmYegVJKi7YIC89xzrgyGvcfxOLKPWF8Vet3kHoHREUCWV3vAirSisRl0Y41pNeFs+Z9L7tOYjjn9NaowkR6ifPG20mzaQkbsl/LknuV6CXjgug0vN71MCCUzDbkTaA1uGVs/RtM2Shg= Received: by 10.66.224.3 with SMTP id w3mr3666977ugg; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.8 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:42:08 +0300 From: "Ivan Levchenko" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ebook reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:42:10 -0000 Is there anything in the ports tree for reading books on the computer? something like Tom Reader or Ice book reader for windows? i did some searching in the ports tree and freshports.org and that didn't help at all. -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko levchenko.i@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 14:42:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDBA16A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F12743D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:42:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346952E05D; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44FD8CC1.4000808@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:42:09 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042328.AA20234@pluto.rain.com> <44FD36C4.7090509@locolomo.org> <200609051408.30090.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200609051408.30090.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:42:19 -0000 RW wrote: > On Tuesday 05 September 2006 09:35, Erik Norgaard wrote: > >> In the standard-supfile for the base system you'd specify RELENG_6 which >> means you'll get head of -STABLE, or if you are conservative RELENG_6_1 >> which means that you'll just get security patches to the 6.1 release. > > I do wish people wouldn't give inexperienced users the impresssion that > running 6-stable (RELENG_6 ) is the norm - this is a development branch. I don't try to give any indication of what is the norm. I mention two options, none of which would mean a switch onto the -CURRENT branch which was the principal concern in OP. Further, the OP was really concerned with ports, and I do make an effort both to explain how stay on a particular branch and why the tagging is on the ports collection is not the same as the base system - hence the shift -RELEASE/-STABLE/-CURRENT is not a big difference. I personally run RELENG_6_1 on my servers and RELENG_6 on my laptops, while using HEAD of the ports collection on both - and everything is quite /STABLE/ :) I'd recommend you follow the norm that works for you, and define one if it has yet to be defined. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 14:45:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF05B16A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webedit@trimm.nl) Received: from sech.trimm.nl (pluto.trimm.nl [194.165.70.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F59243D6A for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:45:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from webedit@trimm.nl) Received: from apito.trimm.net ([195.86.74.74]) by sech.trimm.nl (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k85EglLg055231 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:42:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from webedit@trimm.nl) Received: from apito.trimm.net (localhost.trimm.net [127.0.0.1]) by apito.trimm.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k85EjFAV044354 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:45:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from webedit@apito.trimm.net) Received: (from webedit@localhost) by apito.trimm.net (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k85EjFhv044353; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:45:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from webedit) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:45:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200609051445.k85EjFhv044353@apito.trimm.net> From: Philips Sales Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, J_CHICKENPOX_13, MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on sech.trimm.nl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Your request for Sales Addresses of Philips Semiconductors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:45:32 -0000 Sales Addresses of Philips Semiconductors Australia : Sydney, 65 Epping Road, North Ryde, NSW 2113, New South Wales, Tel. +61 2 99470250, Fax. +61 2 99470251. Austria : Vienna, Silica (An Avnet Company), Tel. +43 1 86642-300, Fax. +43 1 86642-350.silica.wien@avnet.comhttp://www.silica.com Belarus : Minsk, Representative office of "Philips Electronics Representative Office B.V." in Belarus, Volodarski Str. 6, 220050, Minsk, Tel. +375 172 200 916, Fax. +375 172 200 733. Belgium: : see Netherlands Brazil : São Paulo - SP, Philips Semiconductors, Rua Verbo Divino, 1.400,, Chácara Santo Antônio, CEP: 04719-002, Tel. +55 011 2125 0600, Bulgaria : Sofia, Philips Bulgaria Ltd., Energoproject, 15th floor, 51 James Bourchier Blvd, 1407, Sofia, Tel. +359 2 68 9211, Fax. +359 2 68 9102. Canada : Eastern Area, Toronto, Philips Semiconductors, Tel. (919) 677-7997, Colombia: : see Brazil Czech Republic : Prague, Philips Regional Headquarter C&EEE, Safránkova 1, 15500 Prague 5, Tel. +42 02 33099 111, Fax. +42 02 33099 101. Denmark : Copenhagen, Philips Semiconductors, Frederikskaj 6, DK-1780 Copenhagen V, Tel. +45 33 29 3333, Finland : Espoo, Philips Semiconductors, Linnoitustie 11, FIN-02600, Espoo, Tel. +358 9 615 800, Fax. +358 9 6158 0920. France : Suresnes Cedex, Philips Semiconductors, 51 rue Carnot - BP 317, 92156, Suresnes Cedex, Tel. +33 1 47 28 66 00, Fax. +33 1 47 28 66 38. Germany : Hamburg, Philips Semiconductors, Lübeckertordamm 5, D-20099, Hamburg, Tel. +49 40 28998, Fax. +49 40 289978. Greece : Athens, Silica (An Avnet Company), Tel. +30-10-342 51 28, Fax. +30-10-341 43 04.silica.greece@avnet.comhttp://www.silica.com/ Hungary : Budapest, Philips Hungary Ltd, Fehervari ut 84/A, H-1119, Budapest, Tel. +361 382 1715, Fax. +361 382 1874. India : Head Office and Western Region, Mumbai, Technopolis Knowledge Park, Mahakali Caves Road, Chakala, Andheri (East), Mumbai 400 093, Tel. +91(0) 22 66912161, Fax. +91(0) 22 56912184. Indonesia : Jakarta, PT Philips Dev. Corp., Gedung Philips, Jl. Buncit Raya Kav. 99-100, 12510, Tel. +62 21794 0040, Fax. +62 21 794 7544. Israel : Tel Aviv, Philips Semiconductors, 8 Hasadnaot Street PO Box 2079, 46120, Herzliya, Israel, Tel. +972 9 956 4004, Fax. +972 9 956 9690. Italy : Monza, Philips Semiconductors Divisione della Philips SpA,, Via Casati, 23, 20052 MONZA (MI), Tel. +39 039 203 5936, Fax. +39 039 203 6682.. Japan : Tokyo, Philips Bldg, Kohnan 2-13-37, Minato-ku, 108-8507, Tel. +81 3 3740 5844, Fax. +81 3 3740 5093. Korea : Seoul, Philips House, 260-199 Itaewon-dong, Yongsan-ku., 140-200. P.O box 3680, Tel. +82 2 709 1452, Fax. +82 2 709 1415. Malaysia : Kuala Lumpur, No. 76 Jalan Universiti, 46200 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Tel. +60 3 7950 5224, Fax. +60 3 7957 4880. Mexico : Chihuahua, OM Associates, Tel. 52 33 3123 9502, Middle East: : see Italy Netherlands : Eindhoven, Philips Semiconductors, Postbus 90050, 5600 PB, Eindhoven, Tel. +31 40 27 82537, Fax. +31 40 27 88399. New Zealand : Auckland, 2 Wagener Place, Mt Albert, C.P.O. Box 1041, Tel. +64 9 815 4148, Fax. +64 9 849 7811. Norway : Oslo, Philips Semiconductors, Box 1, Manglerud 0612, 0612 Oslo, Tel. +47 22 74 8000, Fax. +47 22 74 8341. P.R. China : Shanghai, 218 Tian Mu Xi Road, Office Building Floor 21., P.R.C. 200070, Tel. +86 21 6354 1088, Fax. +86 21 6354 2994. P.R. China / Hong Kong : Hong Kong, Unit 501, 5/F Tech Centre, 72 Tat Chee Avenue Kowloon Tong, Tel. +852 2319 7888, Fax. +852 2319 7700. Pakistan: : see Singapore Philippines : Makati City, metro Manila, Philips Semiconductors Philippines Inc., 106 Valero St. Salcedo Village, PO Box 2108 MCC, Tel. +63 2 816 6380, Fax. +63 2 817 3474. Poland : Warszawa, Philips Semiconductors, Al. Jerozolimskie 195 B, 02-222, Warszawa, Tel. +48 22 5710 000, Fax. .+48 22 57 10 016. Portugal: : see Spain Romania: : see Italy Russia : Moscow, OOO "Philips", Ul. Usacheva 35, 119048, Moscow, Tel. +7 095 937 93 28, Fax. +7 095 937 93 30. Singapore : Singapore, Philips Semiconductors, 620A Lorong 1 Toa Payoh, TP4 Level 4, Tel. +65 6882 3538, Fax. +65 6251 6500. Slovakia : Bratislava, Philips Bratislava, Skultétyho 1, 83227, Bratislava, Tel. +421 2 502 65 101, Fax. +421 2 555 72472. Slovenia: : see Italy South Africa : Johannesburg, Philips South Africa (Pty) Ltd., 195 Main Road Martindale, Johannesburg 2092, PO Box 58088 Newville 2114, Tel. +27 11 471 5000, Fax. +27 11 471 5398. Spain : Barcelona, Philips Semiconductors, Balmes 22, 08007, Barcelona, Tel. +34 9 32704006, Fax. +34 9 32704017. Sweden : Stockholm, Philips AB, Kista Entré, Knarrarnäsgatan 7,, S-164 85, Stockholm, Tel. +46 8 5985 2000, Fax. +46 8 5985 2745. Switzerland : Zurich, Philips AG Semiconductors Sales, Allmendstrasse 140, CH-8027, Zurich, Tel. +41 1 488 2741, Fax. +41 1 488 3263. Taiwan : Taipei 115, Taiwan, R.O.C., Philips Semiconductors, 13F-1, 3-1, Yuan Qu St., Nan Gang Dist., Tel. +886 2 2655 7666, Fax. +886 2 3789 2908. Thailand : Bangkok, Philips Electronics (Thailand) Ltd., 60/14 MOO 11, Bangna Trad Road KM. 3, Bangna, 10260, Tel. +66 2 361 7910, Fax. +66 2 398 3447. Turkey : Umraniye - Istanbul, Turk Philips Ticaret A.S., Yukari Dudullu,, Organize Bolgesi 2. cad. No. 22, 34776, Umraniye - Istanbul, Tel. +90 216 522 1802, Fax. +90 216 522 1813. Ukraine : Kiev, Philips Ukraine, Building B, Floor 7, 4 Patrice Lumumba Str., 252042, Kiev, Tel. +380 44 264 2776, Fax. +380 44 268 0461. United Kingdom : Redhill, Philips Semiconductors, Cross Oak Lane, RH1 5HA, Redhill, Fax. +44 1293 815739. United States : All States, Philips Semiconductors, Tel. 1-800-447-1500, Uruguay: : see Brazil Vietnam: : see Singapore Yugoslavia : Beograd, Philips Semiconductors, Trg N. Pasica 5/v, 11000, Beograd, Tel. +381 11 3341 299, Fax. +381 11 3342 553. For all other inquiries, please apply to: Philips Semiconductors, Marketing Communications, P.O. Box 218, 5600 MD EINDHOVEN, The Netherlands, Fax +31 40 27 24825 Internet: [1]http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/feedback/ References 1. http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/feedback/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 14:46:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFBA16A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218E443D55 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:46:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0933F1A4DB0; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 688CB5149C; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:46:13 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Message-ID: <20060905144613.GA79604@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 Stability with 6.1+? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:46:14 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:09:27AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > Can anybody on this list indicate what kind of stability they have seen= =20 > with AMD64 systems using FreeBSD (the 64-bit binaries)? How about the=20 > majority of PORTS in the tree? Stability of amd64 is excellent. # uptime 7:45AM up 104 days, 7:39, 2 users, load averages: 8.10, 7.61, 7.06 # uname -r 6.1-RELEASE That's one of the machines that I use for the official package builds, it's been building 8 packages concurrently for the past 104 days (which was the last time I rebooted it to update the kernel). Kris --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE/Y21Wry0BWjoQKURAlgcAKDBAxtDtsTWdkuqf90puqt+G7K5xgCfcI5H rRNQGRViZ1DtVsVJfb7+WRw= =t0/L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 14:51:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466E216A4FA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83109.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83109.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9518C43D4C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:51:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 503 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2006 14:51:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1KUI42mkdAekaSoSWDJLjyH/hd/utX4WKd9+9Dt1F+gdEl1kqRb8T7fsKPtTRrsHJf9FY4W31Ejv138tZt66E1r7XIw/5Tx0rZ4LgPZNsUhKU9t5wgX8BwwmeCp/lDuC/mCFnvjr5lHRQeHZ/Aoysog28h2Yl5Bz33o9c5xJMWE= ; Message-ID: <20060905145114.501.qmail@web83109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83109.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:51:14 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: Lowell Gilbert , David Wassman In-Reply-To: <441wqqlc97.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Device Drivers and Kernel Modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:51:15 -0000 --- Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "David Wassman" writes: > > > I am trying to figure out which would be best, to > load all the device > > drivers through compiling them into the kernel or > to load them at boot > > through loader.conf. > > > > I would think that loader.conf would be more > convenient as changing hardware > > wuld not require a rebuild of the kernel. Is there > a draw back to loading > > devices this way other than a longer boot up time > (which should not be an > > issue as the system is 24-7)? > > There is little difference for your purposes. > > > I have also heard that loading modules through the > loader.conf saves on RAM > > performance as the module in question is not > loaded into memory until it is > > used as opposed to being loaded with the kernel. > If this makes no sense, i > > appologize. I remember reading it somewhere on a > mailing list several years > > ago and can't find the reference anymore. From > memory it stated modules such > > as cd9660 could be loaded through entering > CD9660_load="YES" in > > loader.confand that it would not be used in memory > until a cd was > > mounted. I am > > assuming this is true (if it is) for other modules > as well. > > It isn't true at all. Loading a module really does > load it into memory. > > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software > engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > In general if it is hot pluggable modules are the best with the appropriate configurations in the daemons that track hardware changes. If it won't come out during the system running then in the kernel is the best. Unless your running an old system recompiling a kernel is 15 minutes of time away. And since its a server you likely will not be constantly updating your base, but even still a new world and kernel should only be an hour tops away, unless you using older equipment. Generally Cardbus/PCMCIA cards you would want modules so you can save a second or two booting and a few k of RAM & have them load and unload as needed, Gvinum is recommended as a module so you can restart it, USB dongles (bluetooth and such) and what not (although drives I generally put in the kernel) Personally I put all the hardware I plan on using in the kernel because it can make life slightly easier. That and unless your doing embedded development or running a 486 you will probably have enough RAM for the additional overhead. In a server scenario your going to be pluggin in hard drives which is and should be built it. I doubt your going to have a sound card, and probably not even DRI modules to contend to. You should have enough RAM where having everything in the kernel isn't going to matter much. This DOES NOT mean use every option when building, but if your server has the hardware, enable it. I believe using modules uses slightly more RAM because the kernel needs the hooks to the module and then the module on top of the hooks, versus just having the code in the kernel, but this is my understanding of things. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 14:55:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF4E16A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [208.8.16.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12E5143D5C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 90850 invoked by uid 1825); 5 Sep 2006 14:55:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 14:55:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:55:04 -0400 (EDT) From: up@3.am X-X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 6.1-STABLE spontaneously reboots! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:55:10 -0000 This server was in production and rock steady with 4.10-STABLE for years. Before moving it to a colo center, I took it offline and did a clean install of 6.1, cvsup'd to STABLE on 8/30/06 and then installed the latest stable versions of all the applications and mods. It's now back in production and for no cause that I can find, it reboots itself roughly twice a day. Nothing in the syslog or console log, it looks basically like a power event...system comes back up with uncleanly dismounted file systems. However, it is on very clean power, has dual power supplies and none of the other boxes on that circuit has any pwer problems. On boot, I had noticed some complaints about ACPI, but I even tried disabling it, but it still did this several hours later. The ONLY hardware change I'd made was to remove a SCSI passthrough cable that enabled the on-board SCSI (it's an L440GX+) to be used with an external tape drive. If somebody can point me in the right direction, or to the right list, I'd greatly appreciate it! (please reply directly, as I am not subscribed to all lists) James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 15:10:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2725D16A4E5 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys29.mail.msu.edu (sys29.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C016543E00 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:06:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys29.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GKcVR-0003FL-KP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:06:29 -0400 References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Jerold McAllister" To: "Nikolas Britton" Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:06:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: Perry Hutchison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:10:19 -0000 Nikolas Britton writes: > On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison wrote: >> > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? >> > > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. >> ... >> > KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. >> >> Not that I'm any more eager to get into >> a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) >> >> File format support is not important. >> I just need something for my 9th-grader >> to use for school papers. >> > > FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really > want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on > this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily > basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and > NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: Please be more careful about advice you give that is really opinion. Although the MAC may be a good choice, FreeBSD with Openoffice might well meet the need for that person. By the way, Openoffice does work nicely on FreeBSD 6.1 and Gnome is not needed for it at all. Gnome is irrelevant to Openoccife. To build Openoffice from ports you do have to go to the Sun site and download the jde stuff and sign up for their free license since Sun does not allow FreeBSD to put that in an automatic install setup like ports. But, that is easy and works just fine. ////jerry ////jerry > > PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. > Built-in FireWire. > 384 MB of memory. > 5 GB of disk space. > > http://www.lowendmac.com/ > http://computers.attr-search.ebay.com/Gigabit_Apple-Desktops_PowerPC-G4_W0 > QQa10244ZQ2d24QQa12ZQ2d24QQa25710ZQ2d24QQa26092ZQ2d24QQa26443Z42211QQa2644 > 4ZQ2d24QQalistZa26092Q2ca26443Q2ca26444Q2ca25710Q2ca12Q2ca10244QQcatrefZC6 > QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfposZQ5AIPQ2fPostalQQ > fromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQftsZ2QQgcsZ1506QQpfZShowQ20Items > QQpf_queryZGigabitQQpfidZ1812QQpfmodeZ1QQsacatZ25440QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d > 1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZpf > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 15:20:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3DE16A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: from mar.ukrtel.net (mar.ukrtel.net [195.5.6.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BCF43DBB for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:16:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: from [82.207.125.134] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by mar.ukrtel.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GKced-0004Kj-Mo; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:16:00 +0300 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k85FF71K001373; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:15:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: (from elisej@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) id k85FF7qT001372; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:15:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:15:07 +0300 From: a@zeos.net To: "P.U.Kruppa" Message-ID: <20060905151507.GA1118@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060904052033.O1556@www.pukruppa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060904052033.O1556@www.pukruppa.net> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r581 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unicode support on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:20:56 -0000 On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 05:23:05AM +0200, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Wei Hu wrote: > > >When will Freebsd support unicode? Freebsd 7? > What exactly do you want be supported? In my /usr/share/locale/ I can see some > UTF-8 directories. > > Regards, > > Uli. > > ********************************************* > * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * > ********************************************* When will atkbd and syscons drivers support multibyte character encoding? I want exactly one key to produce a sequence of bytes (one unicode character), and a sequence of bytes (one unicode character) to be mapped to one symbol on a screen. E. g., Red Hat linux console driver has such usefull possibilities for many years. They are usefull not for unicode only, but for escape sequences generated by Alt+ also. Regards, Elisej Babenko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 15:23:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A66316A51A for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8D343E94 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:22:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.8.200]) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 06 Sep 2006 00:52:04 +0930 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AQAAAI8x/UQNIA X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,215,1154874600"; d="scan'208"; a="7683706:sNHT22189545" User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:52:01 +0930 From: Shane Ambler To: , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001c6d0ef$1fec0340$6b08a8c0@pcmoperations> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Gnome 2 - Fuzziness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:23:36 -0000 On 5/9/2006 22:58, "Justin" wrote: > Greetings, > > Installed FreeBSD 6.1R on a clean system over the weekend, and installed the > gnome2 port from the ports tree (after cvsup'ing). Everything installed > great, no errors. Ran the xorg configure from the handbook, went over good, > background and cursor came up sharp. So, I enabled gdm, and rebooted. Once > rebooted, X started, which the cursor was crisp, but when the Gnome login > window appeared, it was very fuzzy. I could barely make out the window. > > Is there some configuration step I missed in gnome or X? Where would be a > good start to read up on Gnome? And finally, is there a better full "X > desktop" to use? Personally I have always preferred KDE. The full KDE package also includes KOffice and a large range of apps. One good thing I like is KDE will run the gnome apps but gnome won't run KDE apps. So you don't loose out on any choices with KDE. It is in ports at /usr/ports/x11/kde3, but you may want to get hold of the pre-built package and install from that. -- Shane Ambler Shane@007Marketing.com Get Sheeky @ http://Sheeky.Biz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 16:30:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEF216A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from garek.tecnik93.com (garek.tecnik93.com [82.76.1.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2966843D7B for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:30:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from garek.tecnik93.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by garek.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3811A6206; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:29:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro [192.168.0.10]) by garek.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:29:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id B654C510; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:29:56 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:29:24 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai "IOnut" Tetcu To: "Ivan Levchenko" Message-ID: <20060905192924.59cc876b@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_pNHe6Ya5kM01GKEnyBwDWqO; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-AV-Checked: on buh by ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ebook reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:30:13 -0000 --Sig_pNHe6Ya5kM01GKEnyBwDWqO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:42:08 +0300 "Ivan Levchenko" wrote: > Is there anything in the ports tree for reading books on the computer? > something like Tom Reader or Ice book reader for windows? >=20 > i did some searching in the ports tree and freshports.org and that > didn't help at all. For MS .lit you could try textproc/clit --=20 IOnut Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" --Sig_pNHe6Ya5kM01GKEnyBwDWqO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE/aYDBX6fi0k6KXsRAqcSAJwNTdFMyTzcPxPs+liAquB/HWhtzACfdCmQ TdQAY5Co2VYCzUpgpZbR6B8= =hV5y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_pNHe6Ya5kM01GKEnyBwDWqO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 16:30:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6655016A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A605C43D7C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:30:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so961693nzn for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fbgKbcoBMucb2MHh32pK1HFA+nzEbA8rH9zyL6XzZYWepBOEa0and8P/LIOkrhEJbcmiW90csmLfEWjSqkH1//SCb3jhHIhetvb4y/rmrjT1UFRlJLegci/KFrJ1jUEh9QUnzng8taLfqQX+uE2yDEC0bvqoiONa6bMInzTaHvs= Received: by 10.65.251.1 with SMTP id d1mr4899086qbs; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609050930r79e7379at8222ad3c0b7e1aa4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:30:01 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: "Shane Ambler" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000001c6d0ef$1fec0340$6b08a8c0@pcmoperations> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: justin@pcmedicsite.com, FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Gnome 2 - Fuzziness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:30:17 -0000 You can run kde apps within gnome as well. I have Gnome and I can run perfectly k3b. As for fuzziness in the gdm login screen, it is most probably due to the screen resolution. Set your default in the xorg.conf file. 2006/9/5, Shane Ambler : > > On 5/9/2006 22:58, "Justin" wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > Installed FreeBSD 6.1R on a clean system over the weekend, and installed > the > > gnome2 port from the ports tree (after cvsup'ing). Everything installed > > great, no errors. Ran the xorg configure from the handbook, went over > good, > > background and cursor came up sharp. So, I enabled gdm, and > rebooted. Once > > rebooted, X started, which the cursor was crisp, but when the Gnome > login > > window appeared, it was very fuzzy. I could barely make out the window. > > > > Is there some configuration step I missed in gnome or X? Where would be > a > > good start to read up on Gnome? And finally, is there a better full "X > > desktop" to use? > > Personally I have always preferred KDE. The full KDE package also includes > KOffice and a large range of apps. > > One good thing I like is KDE will run the gnome apps but gnome won't run > KDE > apps. > So you don't loose out on any choices with KDE. > > It is in ports at /usr/ports/x11/kde3, but you may want to get hold of the > pre-built package and install from that. > > > -- > > Shane Ambler > Shane@007Marketing.com > > Get Sheeky @ http://Sheeky.Biz > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 16:37:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2405516A4E7 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE1F43D6B for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:37:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so963348nzn for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:37:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VP87/b1iTrk2/FUIfvcraXKjvSWOrrHy0oE0vNCTfyXs7Yt8GGZrho/unUUj6UlRsTsjrvqbhCm3a6OHoU9KeF3HWYJd1pyabAgdZ5BhFKvAK6YQQzzS94UMqehNJoBAQxoGABsJsgQBG90MOwjy7pAumfp8cvYjTWXF5s6MVpg= Received: by 10.64.28.18 with SMTP id b18mr7237834qbb; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609050937l59788b2by93ffef828cc573c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:37:35 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: "Ion-Mihai IOnut Tetcu" In-Reply-To: <20060905192924.59cc876b@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060905192924.59cc876b@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ivan Levchenko Subject: Re: ebook reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:37:48 -0000 Try reed. I haven't tried though. 2006/9/5, Ion-Mihai IOnut Tetcu : > > On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:42:08 +0300 > "Ivan Levchenko" wrote: > > > Is there anything in the ports tree for reading books on the computer? > > something like Tom Reader or Ice book reader for windows? > > > > i did some searching in the ports tree and freshports.org and that > > didn't help at all. > > For MS .lit you could try textproc/clit > > > > -- > IOnut > Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" > > > > > -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 16:47:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE6016A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wanderingidea@casema.nl) Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl (cas-mta2-fe.casema.nl [83.80.1.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA10343D62 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:47:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wanderingidea@casema.nl) Received: from localhost (cas-filter4.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.99]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A985196 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.24]) by localhost (cas-filter4.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id 02892-05 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bsdbox.cable.casema.nl (53563FBD.cable.casema.nl [83.86.63.189]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B415057 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:47:42 +0200 From: Cor van Wandelen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060905184742.310ad000@bsdbox.cable.casema.nl> In-Reply-To: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> References: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Subject: Re: AMD64 Stability with 6.1+? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:47:44 -0000 I experience instability with FreeBSD-AMD64 using ext2/ext3 filesystems. Sometimes reading and writing these filesystems work without any problems and the next time the whole system hangs with the only option resetting the pc. Nevertheless I use it because overall it seems to be a lot faster, but I stay away from the mentioned filesystems. Cor On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:09:27 -0500 "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > Can anybody on this list indicate what kind of stability they have seen > with AMD64 systems using FreeBSD (the 64-bit binaries)? How about the > majority of PORTS in the tree? > > I realize this question will solicit relatively subjective responses, > but I am interested in them all. > > Thanks in advance, > > Tom Veldhouse > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 16:54:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAECD16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wanderingidea@casema.nl) Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl (cas-mta2-fe.casema.nl [83.80.1.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202D043D7C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:54:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wanderingidea@casema.nl) Received: from localhost (cas-filter4.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.99]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D50251AD; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:54:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta-fe.casema.nl ([10.42.32.24]) by localhost (cas-filter4.mgmt.casema.nl [10.42.32.211]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with ESMTP id 02955-04; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:54:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bsdbox.cable.casema.nl (53563FBD.cable.casema.nl [83.86.63.189]) by mta-fe.casema.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6B3514B; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:54:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:54:44 +0200 From: Cor van Wandelen To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Message-ID: <20060905185444.04c13ea9@bsdbox.cable.casema.nl> In-Reply-To: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> References: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casema.nl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 Stability with 6.1+? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:54:55 -0000 I experience instability with FreeBSD-AMD64 using ext2/ext3 filesystems. Sometimes reading and writing these filesystems work without any problems and the next time the whole system hangs with the only option resetting the pc. Nevertheless I use it because overall it seems to be a lot faster, but I stay away from the mentioned filesystems. Cor On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:09:27 -0500 "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > Can anybody on this list indicate what kind of stability they have seen > with AMD64 systems using FreeBSD (the 64-bit binaries)? How about the > majority of PORTS in the tree? > > I realize this question will solicit relatively subjective responses, > but I am interested in them all. > > Thanks in advance, > > Tom Veldhouse > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 17:10:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2113416A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5017743D70 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:10:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B08389119 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:10:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:07:42 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========EC854131E557BE78C354==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: MIME and mailcap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:10:53 -0000 --==========EC854131E557BE78C354========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm trying to understand the use of mailcap for MIME translation within a=20 mail client. I installed mail/metamail, which created a .mailcap file in=20 my home directory. That file appears to be a copy of the run-mailcap=20 script. But what does it do? It seems like it does nothing. What I'm trying to do is get the mail client to open an image viewer when I = double-click on a jpeg attachment. The mail client is designed to source=20 the mailcap file from /etc/, /usr/local/etc/ and from ~/.mailcap. What am I missing here? What's the best/proper way to do this? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========EC854131E557BE78C354==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 17:41:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A88116A4E1 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476CC43D6A for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:41:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65D71A4DA9; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1F4CD5148C; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:41:29 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Cor van Wandelen Message-ID: <20060905174128.GA83555@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <44FD7707.5040207@veldy.net> <20060905185444.04c13ea9@bsdbox.cable.casema.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060905185444.04c13ea9@bsdbox.cable.casema.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 Stability with 6.1+? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:41:39 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 06:54:44PM +0200, Cor van Wandelen wrote: > I experience instability with FreeBSD-AMD64 using ext2/ext3 filesystems. > Sometimes reading and writing these filesystems work without any problems and > the next time the whole system hangs with the only option resetting the pc. > Nevertheless I use it because overall it seems to be a lot faster, but I stay > away from the mentioned filesystems. Have you submitted a PR? Make sure to follow the directions in the chapter on kernel debugging in the developers handbook. Kris --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE/bbIWry0BWjoQKURAjjPAJ90YfCyJDLaQqvrzELjlUOKgin/AwCgvcN1 rJiTbBvc0KRO63bK+rOEDzE= =REtP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 17:51:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05E516A4E2 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7513B43D70 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:51:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2338640wxd for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TGZ5TUsb4pyPO/OhfnTCeRc4RKBhkYEfGBqECu0KXHghpgRdEuoiN2gVXovwFY61ia1EibzZdhPjsOn5nO8udtimxkyvUvVDGJNnHG8H0iq5rueZWuYfDjSDVcxqcDq9lYrxMYF2KEVGjYDSaVPvtHHrF8DdMCSOMhsOAzv3tno= Received: by 10.70.87.9 with SMTP id k9mr10306518wxb; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:51:21 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Jerold McAllister" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> Cc: Perry Hutchison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:51:23 -0000 On 9/5/06, Jerold McAllister wrote: > Nikolas Britton writes: > > > On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison wrote: > >> > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? > >> > > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. > >> ... > >> > KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. > >> > >> Not that I'm any more eager to get into > >> a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) > >> > >> File format support is not important. > >> I just need something for my 9th-grader > >> to use for school papers. > >> > > > > FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really > > want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on > > this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily > > basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and > > NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: > > Please be more careful about advice you give that is really opinion. > You completely missed the point, you of all people should know exactly what I'm talking about: http://acns.msu.edu/organization/academic/information_systems/ So close to the kids and yet completely out of touch with their needs. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 17:51:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824B416A4F0 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE2443D80 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so591886qbd for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:51:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tRzUCmnlD6luTMemvyHPzWOHq3s/pm/6QSx3kkbEd9zvozloyw7puchUIHX3S35TltwIuJ1jXar2RRRKePbMNMzSR7oiuecB8fIkVLSrt55Zl21LiBocLWmg0yWv/eBdyLQ+dtgoQDPKYBGHr5WKdXJMzw1p5VlVyY+CcanoBH0= Received: by 10.67.21.11 with SMTP id y11mr3804822ugi; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.8 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:44:31 +0300 From: "Ivan Levchenko" To: "Jordi Carrillo" In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609050937l59788b2by93ffef828cc573c0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060905192924.59cc876b@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> <94ff3700609050937l59788b2by93ffef828cc573c0@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Ion-Mihai IOnut Tetcu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ebook reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:51:34 -0000 a friend of mine just recommended this thing: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pybookreader/ i will try it out On 9/5/06, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > Try reed. I haven't tried though. > > 2006/9/5, Ion-Mihai IOnut Tetcu : > > On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:42:08 +0300 > > "Ivan Levchenko" wrote: > > > > > Is there anything in the ports tree for reading books on the computer? > > > something like Tom Reader or Ice book reader for windows? > > > > > > i did some searching in the ports tree and freshports.org and that > > > didn't help at all. > > > > For MS .lit you could try textproc/clit > > > > > > > > -- > > IOnut > > Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://jordilin.wordpress.com -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko levchenko.i@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:06:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAF316A4E0 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A3B43D72 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:06:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k85I5vhE081654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k85I5vJN081653; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA23129; Tue, 5 Sep 06 11:00:17 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 06 11:00:17 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609051800.AA23129@pluto.rain.com> To: jerrymc@msu.edu References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:06:17 -0000 > By the way, Openoffice does work nicely on FreeBSD 6.1 and Gnome > is not needed for it at all. Gnome is irrelevant to Openoccife. The Ports build of OpenOffice seems to require glib, which seems to be maintained by the gnome folks even if it is not, strictly speaking, part of gnome. If there is a build-time option to use something else instead, it would be nice for the choice to come up on one of those blue option screens when building the port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:13:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5613F16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C8043D6D for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:13:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k85IDOZP058739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:13:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FDBE22.8090901@enabled.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:12:50 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sshd login stalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:13:26 -0000 Okay I cant seem to figure out why sshd logins are stalling. I see that I am coming from an IP address that does not have Reverse mapping. So I added the lines below to /usr/local/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/ssh is sym linked to /usr/local/etc/ssh --- snip --- lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 Sep 4 23:01 ssh -> /usr/local/etc/ssh UseDNS no VerifyReverseMapping no ---- snip --- cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:17:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7424B16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from sccrmhc15.comcast.net (sccrmhc15.comcast.net [63.240.77.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E5E43D5E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:17:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from fuggle.veldy.net (c-69-180-171-46.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[69.180.171.46]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with ESMTP id <2006090518171001500og0r5e>; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:17:10 +0000 Received: from fuggle.veldy.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuggle.veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9042DDD6; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:17:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuggle.veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D702DDB9; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:17:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44FDBF24.9070604@veldy.net> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:17:08 -0500 From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <44FDBE22.8090901@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <44FDBE22.8090901@enabled.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd login stalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:17:17 -0000 Noah wrote: > Okay I cant seem to figure out why sshd logins are stalling. I see > that I am coming from an IP address that does not have Reverse mapping. > > So I added the lines below to /usr/local/etc/ssh/sshd_config > and /etc/ssh is sym linked to /usr/local/etc/ssh > What are the contents of your /etc/hosts file? Is there a setting there for your local IP other than localhost 127.0.0.1? Tom Veldhouse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:19:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ADF16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF4C43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:19:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k85IJU2E059272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:19:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FDBF90.3060203@enabled.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:18:56 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" References: <44FDBE22.8090901@enabled.com> <44FDBF24.9070604@veldy.net> In-Reply-To: <44FDBF24.9070604@veldy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd login stalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:19:34 -0000 Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > Noah wrote: >> Okay I cant seem to figure out why sshd logins are stalling. I see >> that I am coming from an IP address that does not have Reverse mapping. >> >> So I added the lines below to /usr/local/etc/ssh/sshd_config >> and /etc/ssh is sym linked to /usr/local/etc/ssh >> > What are the contents of your /etc/hosts file? Is there a setting > there for your local IP other than localhost 127.0.0.1? > yes there is. the local IP is there. cheers, Noah > Tom Veldhouse > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:23:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D6B16A4E0 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C6843D5E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:23:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k85INVXg059450 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FDC081.6000207@enabled.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:22:57 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: downloading res - resource reservation system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:23:33 -0000 Hi there, I am looking for a link to download res - resource reservation system. Anybody help me please? Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:27:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2111F16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thiago.e.o@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF2A43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:27:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thiago.e.o@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so651844wri for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:27:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=kQvwUko6hZd2rWvvPwBgKBzTd1EMOxltxlVcX8h2sK+1GVHM3zPyhW1eOqsHTS0xeZaVLo9Mx1NZk+k79pmcDMRgQ7RwqVb+TpC1BH867+FeGsnmwb4xTM68+OrxBIlK8+IimqYovYqMaS8BPQfNtLLqmZTGuSjFp1NZKKV1wVk= Received: by 10.90.117.11 with SMTP id p11mr1766197agc; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.114.7 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:27:10 -0300 From: "Thiago Esteves de Oliveira" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems With driver "sk0". X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:27:13 -0000 Hi, I've installed an 3com 3C940 Gigabit Ethernet and the it's stoped during boot, but if I disable ACPI it works well. Before installing the 3com it was working well with ACPI. Look...without ACPI - Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #5: Tue Sep 5 12:01:14 BRT 2006 thiago@anubis.lamce.coppe.ufrj.br :/usr/cvsup/RELENG_6/src/sys/amd64/compile/ANUBIS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193135 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz (2992.39-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf43 Stepping = 3 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x641d> AMD Features=0x20100800 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1073610752 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1028661248 (981 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 mpt0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xfcee0000-0xfcefffff,0xfcec0000-0xfcedffff irq 15 at device 5.0 on pci2 mpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt0: MPI Version=1.2.14.0 mpt0: Capabilities: ( RAID-1E RAID-1 SAFTE ) mpt0: 0 Active Volumes (1 Max) mpt0: 0 Hidden Drive Members (6 Max) pci1: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 pci1: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pcib4: irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pci5: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib6: irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 uhci0: port 0xb880-0xb89f irq 10 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xbc00-0xbc1f irq 3 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xbc80-0xbc9f irq 15 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfccfec00-0xfccfefff irq 5 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 em0: port 0xec80-0xecbf mem 0xfebe0000-0xfebfffff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci7 em0: Ethernet address: 00:04:23:c3:06:78 em0: [FAST] skc0: <3Com 3C940 Gigabit Ethernet> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebd8000-0xfebdbfff irq 15 at device 6.0 on pci7 skc0: 3Com Gigabit NIC (3C2000) rev. (0x1) sk0: on skc0 sk0: Ethernet address: 00:0a:5e:65:ad:c3 miibus0: on sk0 e1000phy0: on miibus0 e1000phy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto pci7: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xb800-0xb807,0xb480-0xb483,0xb400-0xb407,0xb080-0xb083,0xb000-0xb00f irq 15 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata2: on atapci1 ata3: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xca7ff,0xca800-0xce7ff,0xce800-0xcf7ff,0xcf800-0xd07ff,0xd0800-0xd0fff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2992392922 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging limited to 30 packets/entry Fast IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 30 packets/entry by default Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA33 ad6: 238475MB at ata3-master SATA150 cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [1 x 2048 byte records] da0 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 70007MB (143374744 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da1 at mpt0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 140014MB (286749488 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17849C) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a - With ACPI it stop. ... -- ================================================ > Thiago Esteves de Oliveira < ================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:16:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B3B16A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: from web53303.mail.yahoo.com (web53303.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9041043D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 97110 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2006 18:16:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=l/tVL1y5X15XbpKIpg7GXn1derNOIArhTyWC2WMpmdktcwb3U1LvGB9WNbeCCn8DRRFFe+bDsCm/CqxjIPeqN1GE+3MpaoXEZIed3yix2zaP8SWtFaVJ7w8YoCp7y7U4MgXiqTsdYIwqM9t3Cxz0LgZKVJDXNwf1r13jG3BL5pI= ; Message-ID: <20060905181626.97108.qmail@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.55.28.12] by web53303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:16:26 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:16:26 -0700 (PDT) From: ann kok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:27:37 +0000 Subject: script help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:16:28 -0000 Hi all I would like to ask script question 1/ if i use the script to run within 1 minute, I can't run it in the cronjob. how can I run this script automatically? 2/ I have file "file.txt" as below, there are two fields. 4 999 10 200 15 400 60 900 I write "awk script" to exact field 2 if the field 1 less than 10 and put it in the file "result.txt". but i am not successful! awk '{ if ($1 > 10) $2="this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than 10" }' < file.txt > result.txt result.txt this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than 10 this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than 10 but i would like the result as this is result 999 when the feild 1 less than 10 this is result 200 when the feild 1 less than 10 Thank you for your help __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:28:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E4616A500 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12FEA43D77 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:28:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56780 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2006 18:28:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uMkVEFhmU82Ti4H6BCMLxxSWUNzJQkNHfmm+RRxXVGzX8UTgXPaxMSJPGDM4DPlIHqOFjCvb0NILm4muI8ZXkGaayPjjRuXpxiW+qXLZRM0Ahx0y8xTAGrcETRXmdqNnsHvpl45kv5U0X+8ThWlYjOcdnClhWifBydjk/dNTNjc= ; Message-ID: <20060905182805.56778.qmail@web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:28:05 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:28:05 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: Noah , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44FDBE22.8090901@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: sshd login stalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:28:12 -0000 --- Noah wrote: > Okay I cant seem to figure out why sshd logins are > stalling. I see that > I am coming from an IP address that does not have > Reverse mapping. > > So I added the lines below to > /usr/local/etc/ssh/sshd_config > and /etc/ssh is sym linked to /usr/local/etc/ssh > > --- snip --- > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 Sep 4 23:01 ssh > -> /usr/local/etc/ssh > > UseDNS no > VerifyReverseMapping no > > ---- snip --- > > > cheers, > > Noah just a thought but if /etc/ssh is linked to /usr/local/etc/ssh wouldn't that just cause troubles from the ghetco? My understanding is /usr/local/etc is for local specific configurations so that a site specific configuration in /etc can be loaded and appended by the stuff in /usr/local/etc. Wouldn't symlinking one to the other force the same config files to be loaded twice??? And if so wouldn't that possibly confuse the daemon? Maybe I'm not entirely clear on how all that works myself. but my understanding is /etc is read first and then appended by /usr/local/etc. Although I can see how this would allow NFS to be used on diskless clients using generic /etc while allowing system specific configurations to be stored elsewhere and linked in as needed. I am just under the impression that /usr/local/etc is not for this purpose. of course I'm not the brightest tool in the shed... -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 18:40:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E6C16A684 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8401943D76 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:39:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k85IdekS060361 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FDC44A.8030904@enabled.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:39:06 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com References: <20060905182805.56778.qmail@web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060905182805.56778.qmail@web83107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd login stalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:40:27 -0000 backyard wrote: > --- Noah wrote: > > >> Okay I cant seem to figure out why sshd logins are >> stalling. I see that >> I am coming from an IP address that does not have >> Reverse mapping. >> >> So I added the lines below to >> /usr/local/etc/ssh/sshd_config >> and /etc/ssh is sym linked to /usr/local/etc/ssh >> >> --- snip --- >> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 Sep 4 23:01 ssh >> -> /usr/local/etc/ssh >> >> UseDNS no >> VerifyReverseMapping no >> >> ---- snip --- >> >> >> cheers, >> >> Noah >> > > > just a thought but if /etc/ssh is linked to > /usr/local/etc/ssh wouldn't that just cause troubles > from the ghetco? My understanding is /usr/local/etc is > for local specific configurations so that a site > specific configuration in /etc can be loaded and > appended by the stuff in /usr/local/etc. Wouldn't > symlinking one to the other force the same config > files to be loaded twice??? And if so wouldn't that > possibly confuse the daemon? Maybe I'm not entirely > clear on how all that works myself. but my > understanding is /etc is read first and then appended > by /usr/local/etc. Although I can see how this would > allow NFS to be used on diskless clients using generic > /etc while allowing system specific configurations to > be stored elsewhere and linked in as needed. I am just > under the impression that /usr/local/etc is not for > this purpose. of course I'm not the brightest tool in > the shed... > Well currently if I am coming from an IP address the has reverse mapping then things work fine there is no stalling whatsoever. When I removed the sym link between /etc/ssh and /usr/local/etc/ssh things work fine now. these is still stalling experienced when coming from an machine with a non-reverse mapped IP. other clues? cheers, Noah > > -brian > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 19:05:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5966B16A4E0 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys27.mail.msu.edu (sys27.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E222543DDA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:01:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys27.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GKgB8-0002l9-Mb; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:01:46 -0400 References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> <10609051800.AA23129@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609051800.AA23129@pluto.rain.com> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:01:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:05:34 -0000 Perry Hutchison writes: >> By the way, Openoffice does work nicely on FreeBSD 6.1 and Gnome >> is not needed for it at all. Gnome is irrelevant to Openoccife. > > The Ports build of OpenOffice seems to require glib, which seems > to be maintained by the gnome folks even if it is not, strictly > speaking, part of gnome. If there is a build-time option to use > something else instead, it would be nice for the choice to come > up on one of those blue option screens when building the port. I had no problem building Openoffice 2.xxx from ports. The glib stuff just flew right on by with no problem. All I had to do extra was to get the jde stuff from Sun and click on the yes box for the license during the registration. This was all under FreeBSD 6.1, though OpenOffice was not the first port I installed, so it is possible some other, earlier installed, port caused needed things to be built, though it didn't look like it. It even took a little less time than I had expected based on horror stories I had read. But, it did take a lot of time and disk space to build it. I have also installed OpenOffice using one of those prebuilt binaries as has been suggested by some other folk and that worked fine on some earlier versions of FreeBSD. I haven't had any trouble using OpenOffice other than the usual annoyances that come from any piece of software that wants to do your thinking for you. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 19:09:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B60416A50D for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A4643F83 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:07:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GKgGS-0003e9-0U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:07:16 +0100 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with SMTP id k85J7DDO000392 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:07:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 18440 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Sep 2006 19:07:08 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:07:08 +0100 To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20060905190708.GA18393@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:07:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: MIME and mailcap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:09:54 -0000 On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:07:42PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > I'm trying to understand the use of mailcap for MIME translation within a > mail client. I installed mail/metamail, which created a .mailcap file in > my home directory. That file appears to be a copy of the run-mailcap > script. But what does it do? It seems like it does nothing. > > What I'm trying to do is get the mail client to open an image viewer when I > double-click on a jpeg attachment. The mail client is designed to source > the mailcap file from /etc/, /usr/local/etc/ and from ~/.mailcap. > > What am I missing here? What's the best/proper way to do this? > Put this in ~/.mailcap: application/x-gzip;/usr/local/bin/zless %s text/html;/usr/X11R6/bin/firefox %s application/pdf;acroread %s application/postscript;gview %s image/gif;xv %s image/jpeg;xv %s image/png;xv %s There are some others you may find useful. I use mutt. -- Frank echo "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 19:11:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645A516A4E2 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys30.mail.msu.edu (sys30.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4265343D6A for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:10:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys30.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GKgK2-0002Cp-Ak; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:10:58 -0400 References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Jerold McAllister" To: "Nikolas Britton" Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:10:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: Perry Hutchison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:11:01 -0000 Nikolas Britton writes: > On 9/5/06, Jerold McAllister wrote: >> Nikolas Britton writes: >> >> > On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison wrote: >> >> > > Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? >> >> > > AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. >> >> ... >> >> > KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. >> >> >> >> Not that I'm any more eager to get into >> >> a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) >> >> >> >> File format support is not important. >> >> I just need something for my 9th-grader >> >> to use for school papers. >> >> >> > >> > FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really >> > want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on >> > this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily >> > basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and >> > NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: >> >> Please be more careful about advice you give that is really opinion. >> > > You completely missed the point, you of all people should know exactly > what I'm talking about: I kind of wonder who missed whose point. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The poster asked for a Word Processor to use on FreeBSD 6.1 and not for an opinionated lecture on which OS to use for kids. > > http://acns.msu.edu/organization/academic/information_systems/ > > So close to the kids and yet completely out of touch with their needs. You might be surprised. ////jerry > -- > BSD Podcasts @: > http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ > http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 19:39:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C6516A4EF; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A48343D73; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:39:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k85JcxR8031658; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:39:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B4388B8B1; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:38:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:38:59 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: up@3.am Message-ID: <20060905193859.GA17992@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: up@3.am, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.1-STABLE spontaneously reboots! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:39:29 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:55:04AM -0400, up@3.am wrote: >=20 > This server was in production and rock steady with 4.10-STABLE for years. > Before moving it to a colo center, I took it offline and did a clean > install of 6.1, cvsup'd to STABLE on 8/30/06 and then installed the latest > stable versions of all the applications and mods. >=20 > It's now back in production and for no cause that I can find, it reboots > itself roughly twice a day. Nothing in the syslog or console log, it > looks basically like a power event...system comes back up with uncleanly > dismounted file systems. However, it is on very clean power, has dual > power supplies and none of the other boxes on that circuit has any pwer > problems. It sounds like hardware trouble to me. I had a box go buggy on me after it had been running for a long time. After I powered it on again it became unstable. I suspect some part in the powersupply or on the mobo got fried.=20 But there are some things you could check. Get syslog to log to another machine. That way you can check at which time the reboots happen. If they are regular, there might be a connection to running programs, cron jobs etc. > On boot, I had noticed some complaints about ACPI, but I even tried > disabling it, but it still did this several hours later. >=20 > The ONLY hardware change I'd made was to remove a SCSI passthrough cable > that enabled the on-board SCSI (it's an L440GX+) to be used with an > external tape drive. Check all internal connections; cables, and PCI cards if any. Check if the RAM is properly seated. Maybe run a RAM test. Check the board for bad capacitators. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE/dJTEnfvsMMhpyURArwsAKCWhIM/CA8boTBfbojDE/hSb+wXYgCfX6// ouyrqvYndi6R4oHp4UgbdGQ= =FklJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 19:52:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9FB16A501 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AA743F7C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so677409wri for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:50:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=lRuXP8RSaTnI91rPCPF56iW5c6k4P1TOZHu4fwFdnkvOKuucWxMl/Jj86ClDtDhQbLCyen0rOqDlpkVTNX/4q6pTO6xLSZu2tHTVtrT0n26cic5ATiAF3paXGNc92eM8nT5ZtOSy2BanTa3HGOVCFGfAaihE2IMU4DnlNm2IYRw= Received: by 10.90.120.6 with SMTP id s6mr1874254agc; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609051250m45931c68y59b377eb66b22716@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:50:03 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: LVM support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:52:45 -0000 Hi list, I'm wondering whether FreeBSD is able to support reading (at least, but preferably also writing) Linux LVM volumes? I have an itch to try FreeBSD on a desktop but all my data is in a Linux LVM. Is it possible? TIA, Jeff Rollin -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 19:57:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6133116A4FC for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [195.115.46.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188D243D66 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:57:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA8B2961C; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:57:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.4.2 (20060627) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ysaoalAg9jAX; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:57:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.1.201] (me.todoo.biz [82.66.93.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2162961B; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:57:16 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <200609040832.48938.freebsd@dfwlp.com> References: <8891D729-276B-4922-A248-342D7EDE4CE3@todoo.biz> <200609040832.48938.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: bsd Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:57:03 +0200 To: Jonathan Horne X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: ACPI won't shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:57:43 -0000 Ok, Sorry for the delay. My hardware is quite complicated. Briefly : This is a bi-xeon with Intel motherboard (Intel Server =20 Board SE7520AF2). I have two ATA RAID controler : - A mirror of 2 disks for the system. - One 3ware Model 9500S-12, 12 ports --> for the data (partition in 2 =20= --> one RAID mirror 2 disks - one RAID 5 4 disks + one sapre). Here is the output of dmesg : Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights =20 reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p5 #0: Mon Sep 4 00:05:26 CEST 2006 root@tsuna.intranet.pac.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP acpi_alloc_wakeup_handler: can't alloc wake memory Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf41 Stepping =3D 1 =20 Features=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x641d> AMD Features=3D0x20000000 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory =3D 3757965312 (3583 MB) avail memory =3D 3678593024 (3508 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard ioapic3 irqs 72-95 on motherboard ioapic4 irqs 96-119 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci7 pci9: on pcib2 3ware device driver for 9000 series storage controllers, version: =20 3.60.02.012 twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem =20 0xfe9ffc00-0xfe9ffcff,0xfb800000-0xfbffffff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci9 twa0: [FAST] twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9500S-12, 12 =20 ports, Firmware FE9X 2.04.00.003, BIOS BE9X 2.03.01.047 pci7: at device 0.1 (no =20 driver attached) pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci7 pci8: on pcib3 em0: port =20 0xc800-0xc83f mem 0xfe8c0000-0xfe8dffff irq 52 at device 4.0 on pci8 em0: Ethernet address: 00:07:e9:31:c0:d4 em1: port =20 0xcc00-0xcc3f mem 0xfe8e0000-0xfe8fffff irq 53 at device 4.1 on pci8 em1: Ethernet address: 00:07:e9:31:c0:d5 pci7: at device 0.3 (no =20 driver attached) pcib4: irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib4 pcib5: irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: irq 16 at device 7.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 0.0 on pci2 pci4: on pcib7 mpt0: port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem =20 0xfe6d0000-0xfe6dffff,0xfe6c0000-0xfe6cffff irq 72 at device 5.0 on pci4 mpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt0: MPI Version=3D1.2.12.0 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0xa. mpt0: Capabilities: ( RAID-1E RAID-1 SAFTE ) mpt0: 1 Active Volume (1 Max) mpt0: 2 Hidden Drive Members (6 Max) mpt1: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem =20 0xfe6f0000-0xfe6fffff,0xfe6e0000-0xfe6effff irq 73 at device 5.1 on pci4 mpt1: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt1: MPI Version=3D1.2.12.0 mpt1: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0xa. mpt1: Capabilities: ( RAID-1E RAID-1 SAFTE ) mpt1: 0 Active Volumes (0 Max) mpt1: 0 Hidden Drive Members (0 Max) pci2: at device 0.1 (no =20 driver attached) pcib8: at device 0.2 on pci2 pci3: on pcib8 pci2: at device 0.3 (no =20 driver attached) uhci0: port 0xe400-0xe41f =20= irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xe800-0xe81f =20= irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xec00-0xec1f =20= irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem =20 0xfebffc00-0xfebfffff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib9: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib9 pci1: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port =20 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 =20 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xca7ff,0xca800-0xce7ff,=20 0xce800-0xcf7ff,0xcf800-0xd07ff,0xd0800-0xd1fff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on =20 isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Settings ( Hot-Plug-Spares ) mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Using Spare Pool: 0 mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): 2 Members: (mpt0:0:0): Primary (mpt0:0:1): Secondary mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): RAID-1 - Optimal mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Status ( Enabled ) (mpt0:vol0:0): Physical (mpt0:0:0), Pass-thru (mpt0:1:0) (mpt0:vol0:0): Online (mpt0:vol0:1): Physical (mpt0:0:1), Pass-thru (mpt0:1:1) (mpt0:vol0:1): Online pass3 at mpt0 bus 1 target 0 lun 0 pass3: Fixed unknown SCSI-3 device pass3: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit), Tagged =20 Queueing Enabled pass4 at mpt0 bus 1 target 1 lun 0 pass4: Fixed unknown SCSI-3 device pass4: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit), Tagged =20 Queueing Enabled da2 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit), Tagged =20 Queueing Enabled da2: 34938MB (71553024 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4453C) da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: <3ware Logical Disk 00 1.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 1144377MB (2343684096 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 145887C) da1 at twa0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: <3ware Logical Disk 01 1.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1: 100.000MB/s transfers da1: 381459MB (781228032 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 48629C) SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da2s1a em0: link state changed to UP Le 4 sept. 06 =E0 15:32, Jonathan Horne a =E9crit : > On Monday 04 September 2006 06:17, bsd wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have configured a new server and everything goes find but ACPI. >> >> When Shutting down the server I have these messages : >> >> =85 >> All buffers synced. >> Uptime: 5m2s >> mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x30 >> mpt1: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x30 >> Shutting down ACPI >> >> >> Then nothing !! >> >> Computer seems to freeze for an infinite amount of time. I have to >> manually shutdown the computer with the Power button ! >> >> >> Any idea ? >> ________________________________________________ > > > tell is a little about your hardware? i have a system that does =20 > this exact > same behavior. mine is; > > supermicro 370DE6 > dual pentium 3 1000 > 2048MB ECC-Reg'd PC133 > an older samsung cdrw (this is the only ide device in the system) > 3ware 6800 raid controller with 3 raid units (20GB R1, 80GB R1, =20 > 335GB R5) > > my system exhibits the exact sme behavior you describe, but i too =20 > have no idea > why. system has always had no trouble with acpi > > > cheers, > jonathan ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing =20 this e-mail" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 20:22:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188C016A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA8843D5F for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so1014049nzn for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:22:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Gmci4PgJ2WZkgtm/PzSdIO+oIS0vWy3Gf5hpNgNGWuHrdvHePwxsd5s+ZtN7mHnFivR9LAv2eRO45jGFP/V3oOOTKdgFpaWbdeXG/RnHPFpZyDyTwIveorlqx1JFOCtb159C2OWOwCx1bbnrgZXBHhsR5x/NfQArMmvV7bYCXlk= Received: by 10.65.237.15 with SMTP id o15mr5287723qbr; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:22:03 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: "FreeBSD Mailing Lists" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:22:05 -0000 I use FreeBSD as my primary Desktop. I have purchased an external usb hard drive to perform backups of my home directory. What type of filesystem do you recommend for this drive, ext2?, fat?... Thanks -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 20:25:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3459216A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB94F43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout15/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k85KPwBG027751; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] ([17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k85KPuup023917; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:25:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <62577AB3-E7BF-488F-8903-8DE9BB53452B@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:25:56 -0700 To: Jordi Carrillo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:25:59 -0000 On Sep 5, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > I use FreeBSD as my primary Desktop. I have purchased an external > usb hard > drive to perform backups of my home directory. What type of > filesystem do > you recommend for this drive, ext2?, fat?... If you are only using FreeBSD, formatting it in the native FFS or FFS2 would make the most sense. If you want to access these files from Windows or some other operating system, using FAT might be reasonable, although you should probably archive your files using tar, pax, dump, etc to preserve filesystem metadata that would otherwise be lost. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 20:41:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE4616A5F4 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F9243D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:41:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so1018188nzn for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:41:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IOMPPEaO2vzImJQ36qNFRF59nkiAXHR+Xm7HtOgay6aU1D9fwh0pwX6tGKMu1chy4Rrk/Y2U0+DbVcyCiyREotzG7avgY48ywonM26jfZN8S2S+mX3gbGVY2ZUIMxK7X5fckhU+kOtZQ4qwWbrMijUdjfrCW4p7HoeqK4AVLMn0= Received: by 10.65.119.14 with SMTP id w14mr7581548qbm; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609051341g57aae9b1gb7ce05f04f3c2d12@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:41:34 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: "Chuck Swiger" In-Reply-To: <62577AB3-E7BF-488F-8903-8DE9BB53452B@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> <62577AB3-E7BF-488F-8903-8DE9BB53452B@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:41:36 -0000 I was thinking about using rdiff-backup to do incremental backups and ext2 type filesystem, as I don't use windows at all. Ext2 because I sometimes switch to Linux. I don't know if FFS is recognized by Linux. 2006/9/5, Chuck Swiger : > > On Sep 5, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > > I use FreeBSD as my primary Desktop. I have purchased an external > > usb hard > > drive to perform backups of my home directory. What type of > > filesystem do > > you recommend for this drive, ext2?, fat?... > > If you are only using FreeBSD, formatting it in the native FFS or > FFS2 would make the most sense. > > If you want to access these files from Windows or some other > operating system, using FAT might be reasonable, although you should > probably archive your files using tar, pax, dump, etc to preserve > filesystem metadata that would otherwise be lost. > > -- > -Chuck > > -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 20:46:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E19316A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F60143D49 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:46:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k85KkQH9012874; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] ([17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k85KkPpP004081; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:46:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609051341g57aae9b1gb7ce05f04f3c2d12@mail.gmail.com> References: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> <62577AB3-E7BF-488F-8903-8DE9BB53452B@mac.com> <94ff3700609051341g57aae9b1gb7ce05f04f3c2d12@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <121D3BD0-623D-4019-94ED-BA271481D830@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:46:24 -0700 To: Jordi Carrillo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:46:27 -0000 On Sep 5, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > I was thinking about using rdiff-backup to do incremental backups > and ext2 type filesystem, as I don't use windows at all. Ext2 > because I sometimes switch to Linux. I don't know if FFS is > recognized by Linux. I think modern flavors of Linux support FFS OK, so FFS should work, otherwise ext2... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 20:51:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2900816A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1FE43D72 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:51:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKht1-0001ze-P8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:51:11 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GKht1-0001vL-4A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:51:11 +0100 Message-ID: <44FDE33E.10906@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:51:10 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions References: <20060905035751.16474.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060905035751.16474.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:51:21 -0000 Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > So now i can find out what version each port is, but that doesnt > help me know whether these are outdated, or to update them. > For that im still stuck on the Ruby core dump problem. I did > reinstall portupgrade, ruby18, and the ruby-bdb thing, but sadly > i still get the same abort trap/core dump thing ive reported all > along. Is there any other way i can attack this last issue? > > Thanks. > > Jen Have you tried portmanager (sysutils/portmanager)? The -s option just reports on what's required to upgrade. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 20:51:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E19E16A501 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F4B43D6D for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:51:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so695756wri for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:51:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ddfYi1omKF/fpROGr1eI4defyuwmwPzN+/ae7n0BLAc2NmpxxWdbsbDqVlXkaBRyTpqFsLPEbLzJ7dqRM5M6metGxBbeTHdBo7O6eEFXb/0OtapK+xTxBpFiBALaGfW6cClm1gQMK2geN1fjF/PRk9vFybxDfc7dIAptfjyNNc4= Received: by 10.90.113.20 with SMTP id l20mr1946938agc; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609051351s3fa770bbgd95c6a1159855656@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:51:40 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Chuck Swiger" In-Reply-To: <121D3BD0-623D-4019-94ED-BA271481D830@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> <62577AB3-E7BF-488F-8903-8DE9BB53452B@mac.com> <94ff3700609051341g57aae9b1gb7ce05f04f3c2d12@mail.gmail.com> <121D3BD0-623D-4019-94ED-BA271481D830@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Jordi Carrillo , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:51:48 -0000 On 05/09/06, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > On Sep 5, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > > I was thinking about using rdiff-backup to do incremental backups > > and ext2 type filesystem, as I don't use windows at all. Ext2 > > because I sometimes switch to Linux. I don't know if FFS is > > recognized by Linux. > > I think modern flavors of Linux support FFS OK, so FFS should work, > otherwise ext2... > > -- In order for Linux to read FFS filesystems, you'll probably have to recompile your kernel. Jeff Rollin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 20:53:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF96416A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FF743D78 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:53:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:53:14 -0400 id 0005641F.44FDE3BA.0000CFBD Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 16:51:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:53:13 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Chuck Swiger Message-Id: <20060905165313.c7dc1f11.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <121D3BD0-623D-4019-94ED-BA271481D830@mac.com> References: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> <62577AB3-E7BF-488F-8903-8DE9BB53452B@mac.com> <94ff3700609051341g57aae9b1gb7ce05f04f3c2d12@mail.gmail.com> <121D3BD0-623D-4019-94ED-BA271481D830@mac.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jordi Carrillo , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:53:20 -0000 In response to Chuck Swiger : > On Sep 5, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > > I was thinking about using rdiff-backup to do incremental backups > > and ext2 type filesystem, as I don't use windows at all. Ext2 > > because I sometimes switch to Linux. I don't know if FFS is > > recognized by Linux. > > I think modern flavors of Linux support FFS OK, so FFS should work, > otherwise ext2... Note that I don't believe that any Linuxi support FFS2, but it's been several months since I've checked. I also seem to remember warnings about buggy FFS drivers for Linux. Are the ext2 drivers for FreeBSD stable? If you format FFS, make sure to do FFS1 -- FFS2 is the default in newer versions of FreeBSD. ext2 might be a safer bet. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 20:59:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B2816A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4750E43D62 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:59:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jordilin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so1021847nzn for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:59:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=REQj5rrir0CLjaWyiobrhTudwAeyvyiNi/kCsS90DOxLqQGkBgr+Bt44ApDDps8G8DGLMAxrKyBgt/9NgbWA+AbWFIkzTHQ4oxiFZcXwjeux7KflupkmHfy3rmOS0GUTnpFRgcCcocFTLJsa6V7a1TEvzlB1MZAyJJU4+AeAq98= Received: by 10.64.209.6 with SMTP id h6mr5352798qbg; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.11 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94ff3700609051359la8926f0hc0cc701001d120b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:59:23 +0200 From: "Jordi Carrillo" To: "Bill Moran" In-Reply-To: <20060905165313.c7dc1f11.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> <62577AB3-E7BF-488F-8903-8DE9BB53452B@mac.com> <94ff3700609051341g57aae9b1gb7ce05f04f3c2d12@mail.gmail.com> <121D3BD0-623D-4019-94ED-BA271481D830@mac.com> <20060905165313.c7dc1f11.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:59:27 -0000 Just a doubt: FFS is not the same as UFS (unix filesystem)??? I installed FreeBSD and let FreeBSD to partition my hard drive and in fstab I have the partitions mounted as UFS. thanks 2006/9/5, Bill Moran : > > In response to Chuck Swiger : > > > On Sep 5, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > > > I was thinking about using rdiff-backup to do incremental backups > > > and ext2 type filesystem, as I don't use windows at all. Ext2 > > > because I sometimes switch to Linux. I don't know if FFS is > > > recognized by Linux. > > > > I think modern flavors of Linux support FFS OK, so FFS should work, > > otherwise ext2... > > Note that I don't believe that any Linuxi support FFS2, but it's been > several months since I've checked. I also seem to remember warnings > about buggy FFS drivers for Linux. Are the ext2 drivers for FreeBSD > stable? > > If you format FFS, make sure to do FFS1 -- FFS2 is the default in newer > versions of FreeBSD. ext2 might be a safer bet. > > -- > Bill Moran > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > -- http://jordilin.wordpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 21:07:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3FC16A4E0 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd4u@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573F643D49 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:07:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd4u@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so700398wri for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:07:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=WAbQdHMatLZot+O63ld2wEtJoLIftvnMqKMDaL8Fux8cXXZUaHBu9mmwwO+746qIu9GnavjUYQ4ehcGZRsNTQMkQni/sljc0xg/rpqz5RMpxDc92LQpBEmPfv3u1YF4Nct+kfH7y/Zb/NcadooI1IkHxcFH7Gan3ndXeAvRKVVc= Received: by 10.90.49.1 with SMTP id w1mr1964190agw; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.118.17 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:07:44 +0200 From: freebsd4u To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: radeon_cp_init called without lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:07:47 -0000 Hello, My graphics card's 3D acceleration is supported by Xorg's radeon module but, for some reason, it doesn't work. Before posting, I did some research on the Internet and it seems that I'm not the only one having this problem. It doesn't load agp.ko... and I have it on my loader.conf it's weird... OS: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 Graphics card: ATI Radeon RS200 Mobility IGP 340M (up to 128MB of shared memory) If you need more info, please let me know. It works OK on Fedora Core 5 and Windows XP. But I prefer FreeBSD ;) See below for more details. Thanks %dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 #0: Fri Jul 14 19:33:56 CEST 2006 root@localhost.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VAIO Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz (1991.73-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf27 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebf9ff Features2=0x4400> real memory = 402063360 (383 MB) avail memory = 383979520 (366 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.16.16 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci_link5: BIOS IRQ 11 for 0.12.INTC is invalid pci_link5: BIOS IRQ 11 for 0.10.INTC is invalid pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 drm0: port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xe0000000-0xefffffff,0xc0500000-0xc050ffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1 info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.19.0 20050911 pci0: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0x8800-0x88ff mem 0xc0401000-0xc0401fff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci0 pcm0: pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pci0: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 cbb0: mem 0xc0402000-0xc0402fff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb1: mem 0xc0403000-0xc0403fff irq 10 at device 10.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 fwohci0: mem 0xc0404000-0xc04047ff irq 9 at device 10.2 on pci0 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 08:00:46:03:01:66:6c:85 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 0a:00:46:66:6c:85 fwe0: Ethernet address: 0a:00:46:66:6c:85 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) uhci0: port 0x8080-0x809f irq 11 at device 12.0on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x80a0-0x80bf irq 10 at device 12.1on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xc0404800-0xc04048ff irq 9 at device 12.2 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: EHCI version 0.95 usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x80c0-0x80cf at device 15.0 on pci0 atapci0: using PIO transfers above 137GB as workaround for 48bit DMA access bug, expect reduced performance ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 rl0: port 0x9c00-0x9cff mem 0xc0404c00-0xc0404dff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx battery0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcefff,0xdc000-0xdffff,0xe0000-0xe3fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550? sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ums0: Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM), rev 1.10/3.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1991734928 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ath0: mem 0x88000000-0x8800ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 ath0: Ethernet address: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx ath0: mac 5.9 phy 4.3 radio 4.6 ad0: 38154MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ath0: link state changed to UP error: [drm:pid816:radeon_cp_init] *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called without lock held error: [drm:pid816:drm_unlock] *ERROR* Process 816 using kernel context 0 ums0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected ums0: detached ums0: Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM), rev 1.10/3.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. pid 1087 (amule), uid 1001: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) ums0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected ums0: detached ums0: Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM), rev 1.10/3.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. /boot/loader.conf agp_load="YES" radeon_load="YES" drm_load="YES" relevant parts of xorg.log (--) Chipset ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337 found (II) RADEON(0): [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] created "radeon" driver at busid "pci:0000:01:05.0" (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xc30fe000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xc30fe000 to 0x2877a000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xe0000000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI. (II) RADEON(0): [agp] You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module is loaded before the radeon kernel module. (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0xcbb21002 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'RS200 CPU to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x70101002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'RS200 PCI to AGP Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none0@pci0:3:0: class=0x070300 card=0x8158104d chip=0x545710b9 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi)' device = 'ALI N5457, M1563M AC97 Modem controller' class = simple comms subclass = generic modem pcm0@pci0:4:0: class=0x040100 card=0x8158104d chip=0x545110b9 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi)' device = 'ALI M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device' class = multimedia subclass = audio none1@pci0:6:0: class=0x068000 card=0x8158104d chip=0x710110b9 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi)' device = 'ALI M7101 Power Management Controller' class = bridge isab0@pci0:7:0: class=0x060100 card=0x8158104d chip=0x153310b9 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi)' device = 'ALI M1533 Aladdin IV ISA Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA cbb0@pci0:10:0: class=0x060700 card=0x8158104d chip=0x04761180 rev=0xaa hdr=0x02 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' device = 'RL5c476 CardBus Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus cbb1@pci0:10:1: class=0x060700 card=0x8158104d chip=0x04761180 rev=0xaa hdr=0x02 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' device = 'RL5c476 CardBus Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus fwohci0@pci0:10:2: class=0x0c0010 card=0x8158104d chip=0x05521180 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' device = 'RL5c552 IEEE-1394 Controller' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire uhci0@pci0:12:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x8158104d chip=0x30381106 rev=0x50 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:12:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x8158104d chip=0x30381106 rev=0x50 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:12:2: class=0x0c0320 card=0x8158104d chip=0x31041106 rev=0x51 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT6202 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB atapci0@pci0:15:0: class=0x0101fa card=0x8158104d chip=0x522910b9 rev=0xc4 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi)' device = 'M1543 Southbridge EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA rl0@pci0:18:0: class=0x020000 card=0x8158104d chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet drm0@pci1:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x8158104d chip=0x43371002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'RS200M Mobility M6 (U2)' class = display subclass = VGA ath0@pci2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x4b001385 chip=0x0013168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' device = 'AR5212, AR5213 802.11a/b/g Wireless Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 21:08:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C4616A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27C743D5A for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:08:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CB1388C6A; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:08:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:05:29 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: ann kok , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20060905181626.97108.qmail@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060905181626.97108.qmail@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========3A9FF92273ECE1AB11BA==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: script help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:08:39 -0000 --==========3A9FF92273ECE1AB11BA========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:16:26 -0700 ann kok=20 wrote: > Hi all > > I would like to ask script question > > 1/ if i use the script to run within 1 minute, I can't > run it in the cronjob. how can I run this script > automatically? > I don't understand what you mean here. Are you asking how to run a cronjob = more than once a minute? > 2/ I have file "file.txt" as below, there are two > fields. > > 4 999 > 10 200 > 15 400 > 60 900 > > I write "awk script" to exact field 2 if the field 1 > less than 10 and put it in the file "result.txt". but > i am not successful! > > awk '{ > if ($1 > 10) > $2=3D"this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than 10" > }' < file.txt > result.txt > > result.txt > > this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than 10 > this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than 10 > > > but i would like the result as > > this is result 999 when the feild 1 less than 10 > this is result 200 when the feild 1 less than 10 > awk '{ if ($1 > 10) $2=3D"this is result "$2" when the feild 1 less than 10" }' < file.txt > result.txt If you want awk to return the value of $2, don't quote it. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========3A9FF92273ECE1AB11BA==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 21:15:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D3116A580 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from mail.gregs-garage.com (h-64-105-8-34.chcgilgm.covad.net [64.105.8.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D36F43D93 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:15:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (unknown [192.168.0.151]) by mail.gregs-garage.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9410114022 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:15:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44FDE83B.4030706@gregs-garage.com> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:12:27 -0500 From: Greg Groth User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060810) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Subversion GUI client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:15:17 -0000 I'm probably missing something stupid, but I'm having trouble connecting to a subversion server using esvn & kdesvn. The server is running svnserve, and I'm connecting with svn+ssh. When I try to connect using either app, they hang when browsing the repository tree. I then tried launching both from a terminal window, and after connecting, got a password prompt in the terminal window. Is there a way to pass the password info to a svn+ssh session within either of these apps? Or is there an app that can handle this? I've had no troubles connecting with TortiseSVN on an XP box, but both these apps seem to only handle passwords for http sessions. Best regards, Greg Groth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 21:43:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C41516A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E3043D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:43:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k85LhTQ9020398; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] ([17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k85LhR9V020125; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:43:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <94ff3700609051359la8926f0hc0cc701001d120b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <94ff3700609051322m1c63420xe5e6e379a21906b2@mail.gmail.com> <62577AB3-E7BF-488F-8903-8DE9BB53452B@mac.com> <94ff3700609051341g57aae9b1gb7ce05f04f3c2d12@mail.gmail.com> <121D3BD0-623D-4019-94ED-BA271481D830@mac.com> <20060905165313.c7dc1f11.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <94ff3700609051359la8926f0hc0cc701001d120b1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:43:27 -0700 To: Jordi Carrillo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:43:30 -0000 On Sep 5, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Jordi Carrillo wrote: > Just a doubt: FFS is not the same as UFS (unix filesystem)??? I > installed FreeBSD and let FreeBSD to partition my hard drive and in > fstab I have the partitions mounted as UFS. FFS is an abbreviation for "Berkeley Fast File System", and is the UFS for BSDs. FFSv1 == BSD UFSv1. It's likely that Linux will support FFSv1/UFSv1 OK, but not UFSv2. I think FreeBSD supports ext2 better than Linux supports UFS. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 21:50:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4DE16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D052443D46 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2403297wxd for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:50:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZKulqedeBcI6sGUNvBB8bwxuiv7JUsFd9SkZR8wj2k5OfDsKYnBFdzwNGA1VaQwDqe5MOmDfrWYWri9jCwiE94NW2aDvvWnCTHK+c93oLGpfgmyKCi0W3UcqU4OsUHD1TwUYSNPur1cJpb5humH61rBpKZM2+9A+NKS1UuS6M4w= Received: by 10.70.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr10832492wxm; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.9 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0609051448m24552082la5d332ec6376efb3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:48:54 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: "Ivan Levchenko" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ebook reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:50:29 -0000 On 9/5/06, Ivan Levchenko wrote: > Is there anything in the ports tree for reading books on the computer? > something like Tom Reader or Ice book reader for windows? > I don't know what those are, since I don't use Windows. For ebooks, there are a variety of choices. These choices depend on the format of the ebook. Note that PDB files are proprietary and who know how they're specified...Which means for PDB files, I can't offer any solution. All this stuff is in ports: Type of file Solution ----------------- ------------ PDF epdfviewer, kpdf, gv, xpdf, acrobat, gpdf PostScript (PS) gv, ggv (?) dvi probably xdvi chm xchm djvu djvulibre, JavaDjVu A note on djvu: although djvulibre is in /usr/ports/graphics, I could not get the viewer (djview) to work properly. Two solutions are: 1) grab the tarball and compile it yourself (in, say, /opt) - very simple to do, just read the INSTALL file; 2) Install the FreeBSD official JDK package and make your file manager use JavaDjVu associated with djvu files - remember to move the jar (IIRC) to the directory where you store your djvu files. Hope this helps. Cheers, Henry Lenzi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 22:09:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE89D16A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF1443D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2408460wxd for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.70.7 with SMTP id s7mr10843721wxa; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i36sm11048877wxd.2006.09.05.14.53.25; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1398BC75 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BA7B8D6 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:53:35 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <44FDE33E.10906@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> References: <20060905035751.16474.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com> <44FDE33E.10906@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060905174924.60F5.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:09:36 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > > > So now i can find out what version each port is, but that doesnt > > help me know whether these are outdated, or to update them. > > For that im still stuck on the Ruby core dump problem. I did > > reinstall portupgrade, ruby18, and the ruby-bdb thing, but sadly > > i still get the same abort trap/core dump thing ive reported all > > along. Is there any other way i can attack this last issue? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Jen > > Have you tried portmanager (sysutils/portmanager)? The -s option just > reports on what's required to upgrade. Assuming you have a freshly updated ports tree, you could also just run this little command: /usr/sbin/pkg_version -vIL= It will display what needs to be updated very quickly. I think that 'portmanager' would be the best way to update the ports however. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 22:36:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D9D16A4DD for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: from web53308.mail.yahoo.com (web53308.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 176AF43D77 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:36:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 22011 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2006 22:36:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=N3oOuKH4NrRzy0j6+9qjB1IQJj0UXXbHnGTnQpQTWkDQfpKP56Wfnaw06hwIieJFAIjciMO0CJD5l9YP8Lf6d9LvyDYGiFBMj3xK26gyX0a5oAvSsTaF7kxTKgHHtrdF4D7DwOUrlHuiJGwyexx7ETHoh1Q7Gjj7M8sexdSYFPk= ; Message-ID: <20060905223609.22009.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.55.28.12] by web53308.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:36:09 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:36:09 -0700 (PDT) From: ann kok To: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: script help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:36:23 -0000 Dear Paul Thank you for your mail I want to run a script xx seconds automatically but cronjob is limited minutes Thank you --- Paul Schmehl wrote: > > > --On Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:16:26 -0700 ann > kok > wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > I would like to ask script question > > > > 1/ if i use the script to run within 1 minute, I > can't > > run it in the cronjob. how can I run this script > > automatically? > > > I don't understand what you mean here. Are you > asking how to run a cronjob > more than once a minute? > > > 2/ I have file "file.txt" as below, there are two > > fields. > > > > 4 999 > > 10 200 > > 15 400 > > 60 900 > > > > I write "awk script" to exact field 2 if the field > 1 > > less than 10 and put it in the file "result.txt". > but > > i am not successful! > > > > awk '{ > > if ($1 > 10) > > $2="this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than > 10" > > }' < file.txt > result.txt > > > > result.txt > > > > this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than 10 > > this is result $2 when the feild 1 less than 10 > > > > > > but i would like the result as > > > > this is result 999 when the feild 1 less than 10 > > this is result 200 when the feild 1 less than 10 > > > awk '{ > if ($1 > 10) > $2="this is result "$2" when the feild 1 less than > 10" > }' < file.txt > result.txt > > If you want awk to return the value of $2, don't > quote it. > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > Adjunct Information Security Officer > The University of Texas at Dallas > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 22:42:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486DA16A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCFA043D4C for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:42:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 31232 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2006 22:42:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.146.217.210) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2006 22:42:01 -0000 In-Reply-To: <88cad3b50609041105k1615b3e7o745ec63449933020@mail.gmail.com> References: <88cad3b50609041105k1615b3e7o745ec63449933020@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:29:55 -0500 To: Conrad Bellman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:42:03 -0000 On 4 September 2006, at 13:05, Conrad Bellman wrote: > Hello, > > I have downloaded the two disks needed for BSD, apon loading the > firs disk, > I am stuck with the command list, and unable to use it, due to > "can't find > kernel" Maybe this is because you got a corrupted CD image. > I tried loading kernel, and other commands but always get the "no > kernel" error, did I download Disk 1 & 2 incorrectly ? > > I turned computer off , then inserted my Disk 1 and started my > computer, but > what i told you previous is what occurred, > > ,can you help ? > Thanks for your time and patients > CB > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 22:55:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B1516A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6CD43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:55:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B5B388CCA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:55:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:52:04 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <101112157906A64E18EB308C@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20060905223609.22009.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060905223609.22009.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========CFFC5C14495D22310846==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: script help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:55:42 -0000 --==========CFFC5C14495D22310846========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Tuesday, September 05, 2006 15:36:09 -0700 ann kok=20 wrote: > Dear Paul > > Thank you for your mail > > I want to run a script xx seconds automatically > > but cronjob is limited minutes > That's correct. The fastest you can run a cron job is every minute because = that's how often cron checks for jobs. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========CFFC5C14495D22310846==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 23:00:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5BD16A4DA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F157543D6E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08BE388C60 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:00:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:57:42 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1CAD91E41B27B5100A3D5C2C@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <200609012232.03876.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> References: <200609010018.23366.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <200609012013.26435.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <200609012232.03876.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========D057A9A664D20836C081==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:00:51 -0000 --==========D057A9A664D20836C081========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Friday, September 01, 2006 22:31:59 +0100 RW=20 wrote: > > It's just a thought, but perhaps the linking could be handled by wrapping > the binary in a shell script that verifies ~/.mulberry and the links. > This has now been done. I've submitted an update to the port that uses a=20 start script to check for the existence of the Resources directory in=20 ~/.mulberry and symlinks to the files if it doesn't exist. I also=20 submitted a second PR that adds url.helper and mailcap files to provide=20 some defaults for attachment and url handling. Hopefully they will meet with the maintainer's approval and the port will=20 be accepted shortly. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========D057A9A664D20836C081==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 23:04:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F342316A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mail.digitalfreaks.org (arbitor.digitalfreaks.org [216.151.95.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2B943D45 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:04:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix, from userid 1022) id 4984217D84; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A6E17D83 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:04:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian A. Seklecki" X-X-Sender: lavalamp@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060905185526.O88388@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: pxeboot(8) NFS code breaks PIX/ASA policy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:04:17 -0000 I'm PXE booting systems using the "dhcprelay" feature on a PIX 525 running 7.1(2). The TFTP process of retrieval of /tftoboot/pxeboot works fine, however once loaded NFS mount requests to the server fail per the following messages. In my config, all layer 4->7 packet "inspection" features are turned off. Any ideas why pxeboot would set the destination UDP port number to 0? It should be UDP/111 and UDP/2049, but alas TCPdump on the server shows nothing coming through. My work-around right now is to recompile pxeboot w/o NFS support and use TFTP file retrieval...which...sort of works. TIA, ~BAS -- Sep 05 2006 17:38:15: %PIX-4-500004: Invalid transport field for protocol=UDP, from 192.168.129.130/1023 to 192.168.128.40/0 Sep 05 2006 17:38:19: %PIX-4-500004: Invalid transport field for protocol=UDP, from 192.168.129.130/1023 to 192.168.128.40/0 According to Cisco: %PIX-4-500004: Invalid transport field for protocol=protocol, from src_addr/src_port to dest_addr/dest_port Explanation This message appears when there is an invalid transport number, in which the source or destination port number for a protocol is zero. The protocol field is 6 for TCP and 17 for UDP. --- l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ "...from back in the heady days when "helpdesk" meant nothing, "diskquota" meant everything, and lives could be bought and sold for a couple of pages of laser printout - and frequently were." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 23:47:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DE516A4E0 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A737F43D53 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:47:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GKkdm-0005XO-0M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:47:38 +0100 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with SMTP id k85NlZVh007316 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:47:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 19139 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Sep 2006 23:47:30 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:47:30 +0100 To: ann kok Message-ID: <20060905234730.GA19106@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20060905223609.22009.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060905223609.22009.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:47:36 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:47:38 -0000 On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 03:36:09PM -0700, ann kok wrote: > > Dear Paul > > Thank you for your mail > > I want to run a script xx seconds automatically > > but cronjob is limited minutes > > Thank you I think what you're after is sleep(1) -- Frank echo "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 00:16:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E3116A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF3743D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:16:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k860FpTM068943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k860Fpp3068942; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA24953; Tue, 5 Sep 06 17:03:01 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 06 17:03:01 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609060003.AA24953@pluto.rain.com> To: cswiger@mac.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backing up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:16:06 -0000 > I think FreeBSD supports ext2 better than Linux supports UFS. This is a ways down my priority list, but since the subject has come up :) It is not working for me at all (in 6.1): # ll /dev/ad0s7 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 93 Sep 4 02:30 /dev/ad0s7 # file -s /dev/ad0s7 /dev/ad0s7: Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data # grep -w ad0s7 /etc/fstab /dev/ad0s7 /linux ext2fs ro 0 0 # ll -d /linux drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 24 12:09 /linux # mount /linux mount_ext2fs: /dev/ad0s7: Operation not supported by device # uname -a FreeBSD fbsd61 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 What am I doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 00:32:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA9016A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EAF43D53 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:32:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k860WtJK069933 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:32:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id k860WtMv069930 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:32:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:32:55 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20060905010652.K8410@pemaquid.safeport.com> Message-ID: <20060905143521.A94037@fledge.watson.org> References: <20060905010652.K8410@pemaquid.safeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Problem Installing SuExec on Apache 1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:32:56 -0000 Well I shoulda searched better. But building it correctly just gets me to the next error. I have a work around but am quite lost at this point. In my case the answer for building apache was RTFMF. But it was also posted in response to the same question for apache 2, for 1.3 it is: make WITH_APACHE_SUEXEC=yes If anyone else has a similiar problem there us a great post on Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 from Drew Tomlinson. However configuring it properly is another issue. Apparently when done wrong there are no error messages. At this point I know suexec is incorrectly configured for my setup. httpd runs as user apache uid=1001, gid=1001, and cgi files must be in a subdirectory of ~user/htdocs. Not knowing how to do this on the make line, I edited the top level Makefile as follows: APACHE_SUEXEC_DOCROOT?=${DOCUMENT_ROOT} APACHE_SUEXEC_LOG?=/var/log/httpd-suexec.log APACHE_SUEXEC_USERDIR?=htdocs APACHE_SUEXEC_UIDMIN?=1001 APACHE_SUEXEC_GIDMIN?=1001 APACHE_SUEXEC_CALLER?=apache This put the values I intended into the build make file: # suexec details (optional) suexec = 1 suexec_caller = apache suexec_docroot = /usr/local/www/data suexec_logexec = /var/log/httpd-suexec.log suexec_userdir = htdocs suexec_uidmin = 1001 suexec_gidmin = 1001 suexec_safepath = /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin suexec_umask = Running a CGI under suexec gets the generic internal error message without anything being logged into httpd-error.log, suexec_log, or error.log for the virtual user being tested. If I overlay suexec with the one from the 4.9 system I am trying to upgrade, it all works. I am running httpd from the 4.9 system with the LoadModule list from the genrated system. Again thanks for any thoughts. On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, doug@safeport.com wrote: > I know I am missing something simple, but I can not get the sbin/suexec wrapper > to compile building apache 1.3 on a 5.5 system. My last attempt was to remove > everything and then do: > > make fetch > make extract > ./configure --enable-suexec --suexec-caller=apache > make > make install > > This install works fine but /usr/local/sbin/suexec is not compiled and using cgi > give an SuExec wrapper not installed messages. My apache setup is otherwise > okay. I can get SuExec working by copying the missing module from a 4.9 system > along with one other missing module. thanks for any ideas. > > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-469-8766 > Fax: 301-469-0601 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 00:44:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F5C16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.bliss@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6682043D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:44:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron.bliss@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so104210nfc for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:44:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UwkpEbA4GjA0QXkBAXkJEye67/ory6HKu67AxSb7tWvVWkkHsvxdk2o5gjh7eAlqYoZHqhAMNH3XX2S70J9N0OBqC2vo9QVnQr+rSu538spN15dxbbP85GJMffZXPLgPoI5S4EGC84JTpVzWJYLU0yk0h/imbp3xhxUxY9SMUzI= Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr150242nfv; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.241.20 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:44:48 -0400 From: "Aaron Bliss" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: easy patch management tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:44:50 -0000 Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 00:48:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8064B16A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 187B443D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 00:48:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92943 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2006 00:48:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nWgBcGiW7A2J/G6FOg80JEYyj0rm6n6zaBh9+Y1mZpEnbbWS8/vqoeSlwnLXdG9Tn9mSOM+lWDjBFqAmXzRFxCpMoGcBN0JXAFWzd6AisXPxvQQFNgnVAx0f4usUlxZ415hq+VPvRrWNBzQsk43DOKNAsSgMQAQTeMxwEN0CqAY= ; Message-ID: <20060906004808.92941.qmail@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.35.98.148] by web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:48:08 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: Noah , backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <44FDC44A.8030904@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd login stalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:48:09 -0000 --- Noah wrote: > backyard wrote: > > --- Noah wrote: > > > > > >> Okay I cant seem to figure out why sshd logins > are > >> stalling. I see that > >> I am coming from an IP address that does not have > >> Reverse mapping. > >> > >> So I added the lines below to > >> /usr/local/etc/ssh/sshd_config > >> and /etc/ssh is sym linked to /usr/local/etc/ssh > >> > >> --- snip --- > >> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 Sep 4 23:01 > ssh > >> -> /usr/local/etc/ssh > >> > >> UseDNS no > >> VerifyReverseMapping no > >> > >> ---- snip --- > >> > >> > >> cheers, > >> > >> Noah > >> > > > > > > just a thought but if /etc/ssh is linked to > > /usr/local/etc/ssh wouldn't that just cause > troubles > > from the ghetco? My understanding is > /usr/local/etc is > > for local specific configurations so that a site > > specific configuration in /etc can be loaded and > > appended by the stuff in /usr/local/etc. Wouldn't > > symlinking one to the other force the same config > > files to be loaded twice??? And if so wouldn't > that > > possibly confuse the daemon? Maybe I'm not > entirely > > clear on how all that works myself. but my > > understanding is /etc is read first and then > appended > > by /usr/local/etc. Although I can see how this > would > > allow NFS to be used on diskless clients using > generic > > /etc while allowing system specific configurations > to > > be stored elsewhere and linked in as needed. I am > just > > under the impression that /usr/local/etc is not > for > > this purpose. of course I'm not the brightest tool > in > > the shed... > > > > > > Well currently if I am coming from an IP address the > has reverse mapping > then things work fine there is no stalling > whatsoever. When I removed > the sym link between /etc/ssh and /usr/local/etc/ssh > things work fine > now. these is still stalling experienced when > coming from an machine > with a non-reverse mapped IP. > > other clues? > > cheers, > > Noah > > do you have a firewall setup or any other packet filtering going on on the box? Is this problem only with sshd or do all daemons have trouble with a host that doesn't do reverse-lookups? Perhaps the IP stack is just blocking the packets coming in from non-fully qualified hosts. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 03:09:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878FE16A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 03:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B6E43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 03:09:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k863928F002927 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:09:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:09:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609052209.02506.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: questions about periodic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:09:05 -0000 i have a couple virtual machines running freebsd 6.1-;4 on a ms vs2005 host, and as of the moment of this writing (and for a while now actually), they are idling at near 0% utilization. but during the nights, they really get going to the point that they ramp the cpu fan speeds to max on the my host box! it takes them hours and hours to quiet back down, sometimes not until i power the virtual machines off and back on again. im wondering if the cause of these early hours cpu hogging could be comming from items running from periodic? i think the daily folder is probably the culprit. is there a good way to see which all scripts are being run, what their scheduling and priority is? i would like to cull out as many as i could live without (if possible). thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 03:09:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB2516A4E0 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 03:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 320D043D4C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 03:09:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 14995 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 03:09:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=losMhouq6mm7AQ1CpbXsN29nRZahO/Ujto8hDmUr+yQdUgVFApl08gq3AckuS2IwPFqvK5oPGk797a95L/gnlbdEkx1wh3bYQWG0YrS0xUhOVmur1F/F9Ay7fjaBVURGefxIJ7H4eLMU1BMDE3Qn3iAErn7oWYGIKGg03yJhSQY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO chaucer.jeays.ca) (mike.jeays@rogers.com@24.43.50.5 with plain) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 03:09:04 -0000 From: Mike jeays To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:09:03 -0400 Message-Id: <1157512143.941.5.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: KBTV setup problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:09:05 -0000 Has anyone else encountered this problem with KBTV? Note that the line showing the mixer channel seems to lack an entry. chaucer 501 /usr/home/mike # btsetup btsetup> show BKTR - BrookTree/Conexant BT8x8 based cards =================================================================== BKTR MODULE LOADED........... Yes BKTR DEVICE PERMISSIONS...... OK BKTR CAPTURE CHIP............ BrookTree 878 BKTR TV CARD................. Hauppauge WinCast/TV BKTR TUNER TYPE.............. Philips NTSC SAA - Philips SAA713x based cards =================================================================== SAA MODULE LOADED............ No SAA DEVICE PERMISSIONS....... Not OK PWC - Philips and compatible USB webcams =================================================================== PWC MODULE LOADED............ No PWC DEVICE PERMISSIONS....... Not OK SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring =================================================================== SND MODULE LOADED............ Yes AUDIO CHIP................... CMedia CMI8738 MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV......... btsetup> quit chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program Traceback (most recent call last): File "./kbtv_application.py", line 136, in ? mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py", line 118, in __init__ self.extendToolbar() File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py", line 389, in extendToolbar self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py", line 48, in __init__ self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list -- Mike Jeays Mike.Jeays@rogers.com http://www.jeays.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 03:25:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F3616A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 03:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7554443D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 03:25:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-66-137-149-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [66.137.149.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B97114330; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:20:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:25:24 -0500 From: pauls@utdallas.edu To: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <82F03D65B6CF592720AD9BEF@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> In-Reply-To: <200609052209.02506.freebsd@dfwlp.com> References: <200609052209.02506.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========4F1FE816BDF74AE94CBB==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: questions about periodic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:25:37 -0000 --==========4F1FE816BDF74AE94CBB========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On September 5, 2006 10:09:02 PM -0500 Jonathan Horne=20 wrote: > i have a couple virtual machines running freebsd 6.1-;4 on a ms vs2005 > host, and as of the moment of this writing (and for a while now > actually), they are idling at near 0% utilization. but during the > nights, they really get going to the point that they ramp the cpu fan > speeds to max on the my host box! it takes them hours and hours to > quiet back down, sometimes not until i power the virtual machines off > and back on again. > > im wondering if the cause of these early hours cpu hogging could be > coming from items running from periodic? i think the daily folder is > probably the culprit. is there a good way to see which all scripts are > being run, what their scheduling and priority is? i would like to cull > out as many as i could live without (if possible). > If you're going to do that, do it in the right way. Disable the scripts=20 in /etc/periodic.conf. Read the man pages. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========4F1FE816BDF74AE94CBB==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 04:57:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C5E16A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 04:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mohitparkash@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4398A43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 04:57:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mohitparkash@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so3744801pye for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:57:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eCJ+iPXcP5a4roeCy0lnILgfJQbPjVEeAcRUAEIwWDJvXjE9V0pDalFXp3wvwnr2hiYrLhH/D1xOoZRJQBdPpZWrxqnXVMX3BefXvLsjO6NOTAzDcRveO7Vqu5RNmjq4XUx6FB8nBDjdut2CXcXh4nobwAAnxxyW5lfoO2Fu8Yc= Received: by 10.35.60.15 with SMTP id n15mr13986981pyk; Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.82.13 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7c8f62ac0609052157m11ab9775ud6400a53598202f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:27:15 +0530 From: "Mohit parkash" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: News of latest Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:57:16 -0000 To Free BSD, I m Mohit the admin of FlyNix (Linux Coustomization Community )would like to request u that. If FreeBSD has a launch any of its new addition can u inform me via mail. so that i can give this news on my site. Thankyou Mohit. -- Mohit Parkash Mobile no. +919416411102 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 05:50:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3CA16A4EB for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from typhoon.he.net (typhoon.he.net [64.62.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73B4B43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:50:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from liam ([71.141.72.46]) by typhoon.he.net for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:50:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:50:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill-Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@liam To: backyard In-Reply-To: <20060905113248.52614.qmail@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20060905113248.52614.qmail@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> System-ID: [en] (SuSE-9.3 64-bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:50:51 -0000 At Tue, 5 Sep 2006 it looks like backyard composed: > > don't get me wrong I don't doubt it is a great system > to use, which is why I kept on trying to get it > installed on many different machines; from laptops to > desktops, to servers, and my commodore... and I will > admit I installed without really looking at the > hardware compatability list... That being said > ususally the boot loader will not load Solaris for me. > The funny thing is when I had it on a machine with > windows it would boot windows, just not Solaris. > I was just thinking about how much I enjoyed the feeling of doing a successfuly install and configuration of Solaris on a desktop, which was, in my case, not all that often. Whenever I could not get it to install, I'd just install FreeBSD with no problems. Now, that is the ironic, case in point, and I can only speak for myself, but... If just a "relatively" small handful of dedicated FreeBSD coders can produce an OS that will install on damm near "ANYTHING" I always found it troubling that SUN Microsystems, with all it's resources, could not, at the least, make their x86 OS (think Solaris-10) install with support, for lets say, what FreeBSD had for 4.2? I mean, all the drivers are available, wouldn't one think that they could at least support what FreeBSD supports in terms of number of devices? -- Bill Schoolcraft <<<<*>>>> http://wiliweld.com <*> " If you turn your headlights on while going the speed of light, does anything happen? " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 06:12:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C400416A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (163-177.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.2.177.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4FC43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:12:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k866HZ07085362; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:17:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k866HSGD085352; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:17:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:17:27 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060906061727.GA85336@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Subject: OpenOffice2 with german user interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 06:12:19 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello=20 ----- Forwarded message from Simon Phoenix ----- From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Martin Schweizer Subject: Re: OpenOffice2 with german user interface Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:35:20 +0300 On Sunday 13 August 2006 17:47, Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello > > I installed OOo2 successfully on FreeBSD 6.1 with KDE 3.5.3. The default > language for the user interface is english. How I can change the user > interface to german? > > What I've done: > - set the environment to DE like described in the handbook (and it works) > - installed the rpm package from the OOo site with german language (for > linux/intel) Install from ports: # For German make LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dde install clean All make knobs are in=20 the /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/files/Makefile.knobs ----- End forwarded message ----- I did the above but the user interface is again in english (also not possib= le=20 to change in the settings). What did I wrong? --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE/mf3wa4WkdMP0jkRAvjJAJ9qWO1LkOgnkbnTDJZn5rFfv5x3mgCfTvFc aq7Uk9pdjF1zZss+TMaMHPA= =jh5E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 06:53:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C9616A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Daniel.Roduner@agridea.ch) Received: from mail.agridea.ch (mail.agridea.ch [62.2.213.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43EA43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:53:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Daniel.Roduner@agridea.ch) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:53:16 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Information Thread-Index: AcbRgSE2thsk0D9RT+axojlPnpzs+QAAAAQ4 From: "Roduner Daniel" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Abwesenheitsnotiz: Information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 06:53:28 -0000 Out of the office - reply Thank you for your message. 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Best regards, Daniel Roduner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 06:56:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DCA16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) Received: from mail.attiksystem.ch (f29.attiksystem.ch [212.147.59.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445DB43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:56:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) Received: from poweredge.attiksystem.ch (poweredge.attiksystem.ch [10.0.0.29]) by mail.attiksystem.ch (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k866urjQ005669 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:56:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:56:53 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C6D192.65B9E5B0" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Message-ID: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D116C@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Recommended remote management card for FreeBSD 6.X? thread-index: AcbRe6iNsQ+6LdFxRvucy/VJonS2cAABZu7w From: "Philippe Lang" To: X-Spam-Score: -1.44 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.49 on 10.0.0.111 Subject: Recommended remote management card for FreeBSD 6.X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 06:56:55 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C6D192.65B9E5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, What remote management card (like Drac, for example) would you recommend for a FreeBSD 6.X Server? ---------------------------------- Philippe Lang, Ing. Dipl. 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Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicklas@dinpris.no) Received: from dp-mail-01.dinpris.com (dp-mail-01.dinpris.com [62.73.247.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8947E43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:50:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicklas@dinpris.no) Received: (qmail 54383 invoked by uid 1004); 6 Sep 2006 09:13:41 -0000 Received: from 62.73.247.155 (nicklas@dinpris.no@62.73.247.155) by dp-mail-01.dinpris.com (envelope-from , uid 98) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1674. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(62.73.247.155):. Processed in 0.02517 secs); 06 Sep 2006 09:13:41 -0000 Received: from v4078.skn-sw2.dinpris.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (nicklas@dinpris.no@62.73.247.155) by dp-mail-01.dinpris.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 09:13:41 -0000 Message-ID: <44FE8BCA.2020304@dinpris.no> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:50:18 +0200 From: "Nicklas B. Westerlund" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Lang References: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D116C@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> In-Reply-To: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D116C@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended remote management card for FreeBSD 6.X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:50:31 -0000 Philippe Lang skrev: > Hi, > > What remote management card (like Drac, for example) would you recommend for a FreeBSD 6.X Server? I guess you'll get as many replies as there are vendors here, but my 2 cents worth of advice is to go with the HP iLO / iLO2 - they work like a charm! Nick. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 10:25:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922B816A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vdemart1@tin.it) Received: from vsmtp2.tin.it (vsmtp2.tin.it [212.216.176.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7B943D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:25:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdemart1@tin.it) Received: from [83.225.185.186] (83.225.185.186) by vsmtp2.tin.it (7.2.072.1) (authenticated as vdemart1@tin.it) id 44F6D8F8004309FE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:25:28 +0200 From: vittorio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:25:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609061225.09727.vdemart1@tin.it> Subject: Creating pkg-plist - problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:25:30 -0000 Under 6.1 I'm trying to build a port (R-2.3.1) following the instructions in the porters-handbook and particularly I'm having a go at creating the pkg-plist file as suggested in the point 7.5 of http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/plist-autoplist.html now,there is said: "Next, create a temporary directory tree into which your port can be installed, and install any dependencies. # mkdir /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) # mtree -U -f $(make -V MTREE_FILE) -d -e -p /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) # make depends PREFIX=/var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME)" but, when I try: % make -V PORTNAME R BUT % mkdir /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) the answer is "Nome di variabile non lecito" that is "variable name not allowed" What's wrong with it? Ciao Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 10:33:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E597B16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B7943D67 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:33:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CCEB815; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:33:32 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id znUNbnatT5vi; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:33:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41721B82D; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:33:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 6 Sep 06 13:33:30 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 6 Sep 06 13:33:05 +0200 Received: from [172.26.1.3] (172.26.1.3) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 6 Sep 06 13:33:01 +0200 Message-ID: <44FEA3DC.3060103@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:33:00 +0300 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Bliss , questions@freebsd.org References: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: easy patch management tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:33:42 -0000 Aaron Bliss wrote: > I was wondering if there are > any > packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to > up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based > systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds > (I'm > also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); > I've > used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an > easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Having never used yum or up2date myself, I wonder - how does it differ from using portupgrade? Is the only difference in that portupgrade builds the software locally whereas yum and up2date install binaries, or is there more to it? If binaries vs source is the only difference then portupgrade does offer a way to update all installed ports. > Also, as I understand it, > bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never > had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use > binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; Using ports is not the same as building/installing software yourself from source. All the complications are handled by port maintainers and we happy users only need to type 'make install'. So there's really no need to be scared. The only downside of ports (as far as I can see) is that building them takes more time than installing from binaries. > for > example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by > running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update > currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with > pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. I still recommend using ports and portupgrade. Actually, I don't use portupgrade myself, because I am a masochist. But from the comments on this list it seems to be pretty good. -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 10:36:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF7016A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq3.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq3.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1B643D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:36:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.189] (port=49017 helo=smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GKukc-0004vV-Q7; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:35:22 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.221.74]:64797 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GKukh-0006gy-2V; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:35:27 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:36:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <1157512143.941.5.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> In-Reply-To: <1157512143.941.5.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609061236.34004.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: Mike jeays Subject: Re: KBTV setup problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:36:38 -0000 Are you by chance attempting to use bktr's MSP for sound (kernel option)? That's not supported by kbtv (unless someone who has a card to reproduce this writes the code), only wiring through the soundcard. HTH, Dan On Wednesday 06 September 2006 05:09, Mike jeays wrote: > Has anyone else encountered this problem with KBTV? Note that the line > showing the mixer channel seems to lack an entry. > > chaucer 501 /usr/home/mike # btsetup > btsetup> show > BKTR - BrookTree/Conexant BT8x8 based cards > =================================================================== > BKTR MODULE LOADED........... Yes > BKTR DEVICE PERMISSIONS...... OK > BKTR CAPTURE CHIP............ BrookTree 878 > BKTR TV CARD................. Hauppauge WinCast/TV > BKTR TUNER TYPE.............. Philips NTSC > > SAA - Philips SAA713x based cards > =================================================================== > SAA MODULE LOADED............ No > SAA DEVICE PERMISSIONS....... Not OK > > PWC - Philips and compatible USB webcams > =================================================================== > PWC MODULE LOADED............ No > PWC DEVICE PERMISSIONS....... Not OK > > SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring > =================================================================== > SND MODULE LOADED............ Yes > AUDIO CHIP................... CMedia CMI8738 > MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV......... > btsetup> quit > > chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv > kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./kbtv_application.py", line 136, in ? > mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py", line 118, in __init__ > self.extendToolbar() > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py", line 389, in > extendToolbar > self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py", line 48, in > __init__ > self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) > ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 10:37:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C839816A4E0 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03FE43D67 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:36:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2601835wxd for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.103.12 with SMTP id a12mr11800437wxc; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h14sm799880wxd.2006.09.06.03.36.58; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDA6BBF4; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7814B905; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 06:37:09 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> References: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060906062344.7FF3.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Aaron Bliss Subject: Re: easy patch management tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:37:09 -0000 Aaron Bliss wrote: > Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please forgive > the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for many > years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I > almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are any > packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to > up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based > systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds (I'm > also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); I've > used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for an > easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand it, > bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have never > had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use > binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for > example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by > running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update > currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with > pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. I am assuming you have FreeBSD 6.1 installed. Using the ports system is really quite easy. It is rather imperative however that you read the /usr/ports/UPDATING test prior to updating your ports. It has tips, etc that you might require. An important one is the switch to Fedora Core 4 as the linux base. You can locate it under: 20060616 in the UPDATING document. I would recommend that you run portsnap to update your ports. Read the man for documentation. Then follow the directions in UPDATING to get the linux base port updated. You might need to install 'portupgrade' unless you installed it during your original installation process. Now, there are several options for updating you entire system. Personally, I prefer 'portmanager' for handling the task. You will have to install it as it is not part of the base system. After installing it, just run: portmanager -f -l -y That will rebuild your program base and insure that the dependencies are correct. HTH -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 10:58:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A942E16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2568543D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:58:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2607421wxd for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:58:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Cmp4Ux2zGKnOFFr+SvhiGE7RstI7op+iB7mxQ2gue83P2ashIJNwp5/hazmbLiOx/+ChPQ5KhG4OjrXlbGO9YqeJSUMJxzhn7kxQSRoUl6YPMSOdMCnAz/+e0rnDFFqePeZkv/9XkVtUdtcQGbSBWAcVne0CoNH1/Oae5PoWCqE= Received: by 10.90.52.18 with SMTP id z18mr2056967agz; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.117.20 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 03:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:58:20 -0400 From: "David Stanford" To: "Aaron Bliss" In-Reply-To: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: easy patch management tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:58:21 -0000 On 9/5/06, Aaron Bliss wrote: > > Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please > forgive > the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for > many > years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I > almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there are > any > packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to > up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based > systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for freebds > (I'm > also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to pcbsd); > I've > used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking for > an > easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; I personally use portupgrade and portaudit to manage my installed ports and have no complaints. I find portupgrade to be extremely easy to use (after your first mistake or two ;) and use portaudit to determine if any of my critical ports actually *need* upgrading. Though, I should mention that I've heard others on this list who prefer portmaster over portupgrade for various reasons. You should probably look into both and see which one suits you best. You can also you security/freebsd-update to keep your base system updated with errata fixes. Also, as I understand it, > bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, I would suggest using portsnap as is much more newb-friendly than cvsup. -David -- [root@fbsd ~]# fortune Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 10:59:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC6916A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9760E43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:59:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool3.panix.com (mailspool3.panix.com [166.84.1.78]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1E458822 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB7BD2DCE2 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GKv7a-0004Xd-00 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 06:59:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:59:06 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20060906105906.GA17195@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 06:52:26 up 142 days, 7:57, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.04 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Acepting lnown "bad" mail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:59:09 -0000 I just built a replacement machine for one that died at work. The system was quite old, and I'm struggling to get the new one to do all the things the older one did. The current issue is, the new machine gets mail using fetchmail from another machine for local delivery, so that I can read it. A good deal of this (internal only) mail has malformed headers, fixing this is a big task, as it comes from a lot of legacy machines provided by a control system vendor running old versions of Solaris. What's going on is that the local sendmail on the new machine is rejecting these mails. Like this Sep 6 06:50:43 brown sm-mta[12249]: k86Ai3w8012249: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Doma in of sender address root@AW0001.meadwestvaco.com does not resolve S Now I _know_ this is a laformed header, but, (at least right now), I'd like for sendmail to just take the mail, without being so picky about it. Is there a rule I can tweak to accomplish this? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 11:05:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FFB16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (auv27.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.29.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A210443D4C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k86B5AN0071398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:05:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <44FEAB5E.40909@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:05:02 +0200 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060731) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mohit parkash References: <7c8f62ac0609052157m11ab9775ud6400a53598202f9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7c8f62ac0609052157m11ab9775ud6400a53598202f9@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig846D8F8D7885D168B6C5EC26" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1812/Wed Sep 6 09:47:01 2006 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: News of latest Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:05:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig846D8F8D7885D168B6C5EC26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/09/2006 06:57, Mohit parkash wrote: > To Free BSD, >=20 > I m Mohit the admin of FlyNix (Linux Coustomizati= on > Community )would like to request u that. If FreeBSD has a launch any = of > its new > addition can u inform me via mail. so that i can give this news on my s= ite. >=20 > Thankyou > Mohit. Hi Mohit, just subscribe to freebsd-announce[*] list. You'll get a message when something 'big' happens, like 6.1 release. Here's an example: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-May/001064.html HTH, Karol [*] http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP: http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc --------------enig846D8F8D7885D168B6C5EC26 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/qtmezeoPAwGIYsRCBq/AKCEQ/lMQRoUnvZ3bvFSEphlBPuHLQCdFQG9 H5i9JiXvligFT+qiRJk6dg4= =nEGP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig846D8F8D7885D168B6C5EC26-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 11:11:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E891D16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from punt-mx0.dmpriest.net.uk (punt-mx0.dmpriest.net.uk [62.13.128.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646CA43D55 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:11:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from Unsupported (thebrick.dmpriest.net.uk [62.13.130.30]) by punt-mx0.dmpriest.net.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Kp) with ESMTP id k86BB3KC008728; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:11:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:11:12 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz To: stan , Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20060906105906.GA17195@teddy.fas.com> References: <20060906105906.GA17195@teddy.fas.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.4 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Acepting lnown "bad" mail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:11:11 -0000 --On 06 September 2006 06:59 -0400 stan wrote: > What's going on is that the local sendmail on the new machine is rejecting > these mails. Like this > > Sep 6 06:50:43 brown sm-mta[12249]: k86Ai3w8012249: ruleset=check_mail, > arg1=, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], > reject=451 4.1.8 Doma in of sender address root@AW0001.meadwestvaco.com > does not resolve S > > Now I _know_ this is a laformed header, but, (at least right now), I'd > like for sendmail to just take the mail, without being so picky about it. > Is there a rule I can tweak to accomplish this? Not really a FreeBSD question ;) Having said that, you probably need to look at adding: FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains In your sendmail config... -Kp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 11:22:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703D716A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8AB43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:22:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 13637 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 11:22:20 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Sep 2006 11:22:20 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A30AC28449; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:22:19 -0400 (EDT) To: Free BSD Questions list References: <20060903232934.GB5777@teddy.fas.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:22:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20060903232934.GB5777@teddy.fas.com> (stan's message of "Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:29:34 -0400") Message-ID: <44d5a92qac.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: New machine, mouse scroll wheel not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:22:21 -0000 stan writes: > I just set up a new 6 CURRENT machine with xorg, and KDE. The scroll wheel > on my mouse does not seem to be scrolling anything. > > I have the follwinf lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection > > The mose itself works OK, bith in X/KDE, and in the consoles. More of an x.org question than FreeBSD.org, but you may not have that many "buttons." I'm not sure what would happen in that case; I assume you've checked the X logs? [I have just "4 5" for the ZAxisMapping parameter, for a simple Compaq-branded wheel mouse.] -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 11:28:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C282516A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C5C43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:28:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool3.panix.com (mailspool3.panix.com [166.84.1.78]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A1958830; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8041BD2DCE4; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GKvZZ-0004n2-00; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:28:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:28:01 -0400 From: stan To: Karl Pielorz Message-ID: <20060906112801.GA18299@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Karl Pielorz , Free BSD Questions list References: <20060906105906.GA17195@teddy.fas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 07:23:32 up 142 days, 8:28, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.03, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Acepting lnown "bad" mail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:28:03 -0000 On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:11:12PM +0100, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > --On 06 September 2006 06:59 -0400 stan wrote: > > >What's going on is that the local sendmail on the new machine is rejecting > >these mails. Like this > > > >Sep 6 06:50:43 brown sm-mta[12249]: k86Ai3w8012249: ruleset=check_mail, > >arg1=, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], > >reject=451 4.1.8 Doma in of sender address root@AW0001.meadwestvaco.com > >does not resolve S > > > >Now I _know_ this is a laformed header, but, (at least right now), I'd > >like for sendmail to just take the mail, without being so picky about it. > >Is there a rule I can tweak to accomplish this? > > Not really a FreeBSD question ;) > > Having said that, you probably need to look at adding: > > FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains > > In your sendmail config... > Thanks, I'll give that a try. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 11:29:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EFB16A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8460043D67 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:29:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2704F13A85C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2591083BC6 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GKvad-0004nX-00 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:29:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:29:07 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20060906112907.GB18299@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 07:23:32 up 142 days, 8:28, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.03, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Disabling background fsck? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:29:15 -0000 ON machines that I'm actively making chnages on, and may make frequent reboots, I'd like to disable backgroundfsck to avoid the risk of rebooting wile t is still running. How can i do this? -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 11:33:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F281E16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E4243D53 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:33:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (83.253.29.241) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.075) id 44FBE71B000B276F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:33:12 +0200 Received: (qmail 26632 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 13:33:09 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 13:33:09 +0200 Received: (qmail 10399 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Sep 2006 13:33:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:33:09 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20060906113309.GA10355@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list References: <20060906112907.GB18299@teddy.fas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060906112907.GB18299@teddy.fas.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: Disabling background fsck? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:33:15 -0000 On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 07:29:07AM -0400, stan wrote: > ON machines that I'm actively making chnages on, and may make frequent > reboots, I'd like to disable backgroundfsck to avoid the risk of rebooting > wile t is still running. > > How can i do this? > Just add the line background_fsck="NO" to /etc/rc.conf -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 12:02:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4510416A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA4743D5C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:02:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so2508175uge for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:02:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Biu/Z9LHXGFoDcIfCV0s0g028oRaQE/WKs7G7NAG/U89Wo7xQBTJLC2iIwRm2oQdUT1LqfK8HHiayka9iI+qVKYgHGjnvob1eiZiykAE2juVqZMzSURyMLUyApOkq0x6JYpfZK0FGcIwWERksJs7UnpneUbgjqIJQlRP4I8U2mw= Received: by 10.66.221.6 with SMTP id t6mr1222818ugg; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.8 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:02:13 +0300 From: "Ivan Levchenko" To: "Henry Lenzi" In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0609051448m24552082la5d332ec6376efb3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8b4c81f0609051448m24552082la5d332ec6376efb3@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ebook reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:02:18 -0000 Thanks a lot, will definately give them a try. On 9/6/06, Henry Lenzi wrote: > On 9/5/06, Ivan Levchenko wrote: > > Is there anything in the ports tree for reading books on the computer? > > something like Tom Reader or Ice book reader for windows? > > > > I don't know what those are, since I don't use Windows. > For ebooks, there are a variety of choices. These choices depend on > the format of the ebook. Note that PDB files are proprietary and who > know how they're specified...Which means for PDB files, I can't offer > any solution. > All this stuff is in ports: > > Type of file Solution > ----------------- ------------ > > PDF epdfviewer, kpdf, gv, > xpdf, acrobat, gpdf > PostScript (PS) gv, ggv (?) > dvi probably xdvi > chm xchm > djvu djvulibre, JavaDjVu > > A note on djvu: although djvulibre is in /usr/ports/graphics, I could > not get the viewer (djview) to work properly. Two solutions are: 1) > grab the tarball and compile it yourself (in, say, /opt) - very simple > to do, just read the INSTALL file; 2) Install the FreeBSD official JDK > package and make your file manager use JavaDjVu associated with djvu > files - remember to move the jar (IIRC) to the directory where you > store your djvu files. > > Hope this helps. > Cheers, > Henry Lenzi > -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko levchenko.i@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 12:18:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976B416A505 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C125A43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:18:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.pc (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Debian-2) with ESMTP id k86CHB1m005285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:17:22 +0300 Received: from gothmog.pc (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k86CHQ2D062753; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:17:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.pc (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k86CFOg4062728; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:15:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:15:14 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bill-Schoolcraft Message-ID: <20060906121514.GA62439@gothmog.pc> References: <20060905113248.52614.qmail@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.815, required 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL -0.22, BAYES_00 -2.60, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: backyard , freebsd-questions , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:18:05 -0000 On 2006-09-05 22:50, Bill-Schoolcraft wrote: > If just a "relatively" small handful of dedicated FreeBSD coders can > produce an OS that will install on damm near "ANYTHING" I always found > it troubling that SUN Microsystems, with all it's resources, could > not, at the least, make their x86 OS (think Solaris-10) install with > support, for lets say, what FreeBSD had for 4.2? > > I mean, all the drivers are available, wouldn't one think that they > could at least support what FreeBSD supports in terms of number of > devices? I don't speak officially *for* FreeBSD, but let's be a bit realistic shall we? There are both good and bad points for both FreeBSD and Solaris. I'm sure someone can find hardware on which FreeBSD can not be installed at all. The same can be said for Solaris. In the end, it is all a matter of what hardware you have and what your particular application requires :-) Having said that, I am more comfortable with the FreeBSD-way of doing most things, so when I have the choise and *both* systems can be used, I usually pick FreeBSD just because it is the one I know best. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 12:29:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4EE16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7B843D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:29:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857291BB26E9; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:27:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.99.26.81] (helo=[10.0.0.11]) by smtp05.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1GKwVL-0008Pt-00; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:27:43 +0200 Message-ID: <44FEBEBF.8050703@web.de> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:27:43 +0200 From: Jona Joachim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vittorio References: <200609061225.09727.vdemart1@tin.it> In-Reply-To: <200609061225.09727.vdemart1@tin.it> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: jaj13@web.de X-Sender: jaj13@web.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating pkg-plist - problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:29:42 -0000 vittorio wrote: > Under 6.1 I'm trying to build a port (R-2.3.1) following the instructions in > the porters-handbook and particularly I'm having a go at creating the > pkg-plist file as suggested in the point 7.5 of > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/plist-autoplist.html > > now,there is said: > > "Next, create a temporary directory tree into which your port can be > installed, and install any dependencies. > # mkdir /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) > # mtree -U -f $(make -V MTREE_FILE) -d -e -p /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) > # make depends PREFIX=/var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME)" > > but, when I try: > > % make -V PORTNAME > R > > BUT > % mkdir /var/tmp/$(make -V PORTNAME) > the answer is > "Nome di variabile non lecito" that is "variable name not allowed" > > What's wrong with it? This is Bourne shell syntax and you are using tcsh. Either type "sh" and follow the instructions or replace $(make -V PORTNAME) by `make -V PORTNAME` --jona From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 13:01:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D2816A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27F843D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:01:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FABC9D92B; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35C21083BC5; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GKx22-0005VI-00; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:01:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:01:30 -0400 From: stan To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20060906130130.GB20836@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , Bill-Schoolcraft , backyard , freebsd-questions , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <20060905113248.52614.qmail@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060906121514.GA62439@gothmog.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060906121514.GA62439@gothmog.pc> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 08:50:18 up 142 days, 9:55, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.01, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Cc: backyard , Bill-Schoolcraft , freebsd-questions , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:01:32 -0000 Just a point, I'm the proud owner of _at least_ 2 different current types of Sun hardware, that FreeBSD does not work on, at least not wekk enoygh to deploy production machines that is. Blade 1500's don't work _at all_ and U40's are too unstable to deploy. It's shame,as for the applications I bought these machines for, I'd prefer FreeSBSD. On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 03:15:14PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-09-05 22:50, Bill-Schoolcraft wrote: > > If just a "relatively" small handful of dedicated FreeBSD coders can > > produce an OS that will install on damm near "ANYTHING" I always found > > it troubling that SUN Microsystems, with all it's resources, could > > not, at the least, make their x86 OS (think Solaris-10) install with > > support, for lets say, what FreeBSD had for 4.2? > > > > I mean, all the drivers are available, wouldn't one think that they > > could at least support what FreeBSD supports in terms of number of > > devices? > > I don't speak officially *for* FreeBSD, but let's be a bit realistic > shall we? There are both good and bad points for both FreeBSD and > Solaris. I'm sure someone can find hardware on which FreeBSD can not > be installed at all. The same can be said for Solaris. In the end, > it is all a matter of what hardware you have and what your particular > application requires :-) > > Having said that, I am more comfortable with the FreeBSD-way of doing > most things, so when I have the choise and *both* systems can be used, > I usually pick FreeBSD just because it is the one I know best. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 13:18:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643AD16A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: from jan.ukrtel.net (jan.ukrtel.net [195.5.6.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B855643D4C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: from 141-43-207-82.pool.ukrtel.net ([82.207.43.141] helo=localhost.my.domain) by jan.ukrtel.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GKxGD-0002G7-BO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:18:10 +0300 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k86DFSbK002221 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:15:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: (from elisej@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) id k86DFR0A002220 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:15:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:15:27 +0300 From: a@zeos.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060906131527.GA2027@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r581 (FreeBSD) Subject: gdb does not want to attach to a primitive process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:18:13 -0000 Subject: gdb does not want to attach to a primitive process I have written the next program: // foo.c #include int main(void) { sleep(30); return 0; } compiled it with cc -g -o foo foo.c then run it with ./foo then switched to another tty and tried to attach to the process: --- begin of screenshot --- [elisej@localhost ~/Programming]$ ps PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND ............... 2160 v5 S+ 0:00.00 ./foo ............... [elisej@localhost ~/Programming]$ gdb GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd". (gdb) attach 2160 Attaching to process 2160 /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/libgdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/solib-svr4.c:1443: internal-error: legacy_fetch_link_map_offsets called without legacy link_map support enabled. A problem internal to GDB has been detected, further debugging may prove unreliable. Quit this debugging session? (y or n) y /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/libgdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/solib-svr4.c:1443: internal-error: legacy_fetch_link_map_offsets called without legacy link_map support enabled. A problem internal to GDB has been detected, further debugging may prove unreliable. Create a core file of GDB? (y or n) y Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) --- end of screenshot --- ttyv5 (were ./foo was running) reads the following: --- begin of screenshot --- [elisej@localhost ~/Programming]$ ./foo Killed: 9 --- end of screenshot --- Is this program too difficult to gdb? Elisej Babenko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 13:29:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3786B16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC17F43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:29:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 31671 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2006 13:29:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KhFla758wTsXgFvwf7dYO+edN32Ghnf54rO2bVdAMsi0f/eoq7RBaK2xlgigNQlHJMAV0LJxReWivvlTngF5OU7qqO616cNHHVTol/ogkx2Cdw7iKWRtsUVyfrtoGIm1ikR+uvdSdIe+avbZjn4tGdLMG5diq/vUP3qeDWI0RO8= ; Message-ID: <20060906132950.31669.qmail@web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 06:29:50 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:29:50 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20060906121514.GA62439@gothmog.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:29:51 -0000 --- Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-09-05 22:50, Bill-Schoolcraft > wrote: > > If just a "relatively" small handful of dedicated > FreeBSD coders can > > produce an OS that will install on damm near > "ANYTHING" I always found > > it troubling that SUN Microsystems, with all it's > resources, could > > not, at the least, make their x86 OS (think > Solaris-10) install with > > support, for lets say, what FreeBSD had for 4.2? > > > > I mean, all the drivers are available, wouldn't > one think that they > > could at least support what FreeBSD supports in > terms of number of > > devices? > > I don't speak officially *for* FreeBSD, but let's be > a bit realistic > shall we? There are both good and bad points for > both FreeBSD and > Solaris. I'm sure someone can find hardware on > which FreeBSD can not > be installed at all. The same can be said for > Solaris. In the end, > it is all a matter of what hardware you have and > what your particular > application requires :-) > > Having said that, I am more comfortable with the > FreeBSD-way of doing > most things, so when I have the choise and *both* > systems can be used, > I usually pick FreeBSD just because it is the one I > know best. > I think to be fair, SUN is mostly concerned with making an OS for THEIR hardware and systems, and it is nice of them to release an x86 version for free. FreeBSD.org is only concerned with releasing an OS and since they don't develop hardware they must support more stuff because they have more hackers at their disposal making "obscure" equipment work. And if it didn't work the relatively small group of users would shrink even more, or run Linux; {shudders.} SUN sells to the military and those with deep pockets who can afford their equipment, FreeBSD is just trying to keep the spirit of BSD alive and well. It makes sense that SUN will only use a few configurations of PCs that are likely to be found in a military contractor, or enterprise corporations arsenal; especially on a system (V10) they release without making money. Its unfortunate but that is life; I'm sure in their minds if you can get it to run on a PC they hope you will buy a Sparc of Sunfire, or whatever line their up too now. It's advertising. I think the important thing to remember in all this is every system using one version of UNIX over another is one more machine not running NT. And since NT is single handedly stealing code, and destroying internationally set standards I think the more UNIX the merrier. Even if you're running a Mac... I find the most important thing is trying to get people to realize a computer isn't ment to tell you what you can or cannot do, an Administrator should be able to kill any running process on a system, you should be able to choose what software is installed on your computer, your web browser or PNP system shouldn't allow Viruses or software in general to be installed on your machine without your knowledge or consent, and most importantly you should be able to take your hard drive out of your machine and put it in another one and keep on going. Solaris is cool if it will run, FreeBSD will run if Solaris won't; lets band together and destroy Micrsoft... :) -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 14:20:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FD416A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB7643D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:20:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from webmail.dfwlp.org (localhost.dfwlp.com [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k86EKS7M011425 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:20:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from 167.246.36.14 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhorne) by webmail.dfwlp.org with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:20:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:20:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jonathan Horne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: can i build more than one world on a buildserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:20:30 -0000 is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same machine? just wondering. :) thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 14:37:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF6616A4E1 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D8043D6D for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:37:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKyXD-0001TO-69; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:37:47 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKyX4-0006Az-9u; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:37:38 +0100 Message-ID: <44FEDD32.4040601@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:37:38 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> In-Reply-To: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:37:57 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: >is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? >or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same >machine? > > Yes. Just slice up your disk and use one of the extra slices to install your other version. AFAIK, you need one slice per system because you can only boot from the "a" partition is a slice. You have to use a real slice not a logical/extended one. Or just get an extra disk and install extra system to that. Of course, you can only *run* one at a time, but you can certainly share user data between builds (though any binaries probably require compat packages). This is generally how I upgrade between major revisions. I have extra /, /usr, /var and /usr/local (called /alt, /alt/var...) and I install new version to the "alt" partitions. Then use boot manager to pick which to boot. Once I am happy with the new version I either copy it across to the original partitions or just boot the new partitions from then on and use the old partitions as the "alt"s. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 14:39:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EAE16A4E2 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5A943D69 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:39:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 29226 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 07:48:35 -0700 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO darryl) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 07:48:35 -0700 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:40:30 -0500 Message-ID: <002301c6d1c2$67aeb000$0701a8c0@darryl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal Subject: ClamAV upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:39:33 -0000 Greetings, I am running Freebsd 6.0-release. I have installed a mail server using the freebsd.qmailrocks.org. I am not familiar with clamav which is installed. ClamAV generates messages in the log that it needs upgraded. Currently at version 0.83 and needs to be 0.88.1. The ClamAV website FAQ for upgrades shows a binaries page. When I look for the Freebsd binary it says to use the /usr/ports system. Anybody have a pointer to the process to upgrade ClamAV ? thanks in advance, Darryl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 14:41:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15D316A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: from web34413.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34413.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB9B243D67 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:41:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 32153 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2006 14:41:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wVvz2ySHZ4fFsRUX9O1zQ+EXXFTIrOG/KqeQ39UFE2rrc5NWx3dUBcRymLmMJbC7Uc+1xXIz4QtqLoJc0MzQ7nfg8PKXFWAievHdOamAirS5x88OmwVvc47yMmRzAM1KanbL48XM6WWzitBiehn8xKnNGrMCaHkW41h6AOVZGkE= ; Message-ID: <20060906144142.32151.qmail@web34413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.189.184.224] by web34413.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:41:42 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: White Hat To: FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: <20060906132950.31669.qmail@web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:41:49 -0000 --- backyard wrote: [...] > I think the important thing to remember in all this > is > every system using one version of UNIX over another > is > one more machine not running NT. And since NT is > single handedly stealing code, and destroying > internationally set standards I think the more UNIX > the merrier. Even if you're running a Mac... I find > the most important thing is trying to get people to > realize a computer isn't ment to tell you what you > can > or cannot do, an Administrator should be able to > kill > any running process on a system, you should be able > to > choose what software is installed on your computer, > your web browser or PNP system shouldn't allow > Viruses > or software in general to be installed on your > machine > without your knowledge or consent, and most > importantly you should be able to take your hard > drive > out of your machine and put it in another one and > keep > on going. IMHO, you are way over simplifying this. An OS should accomplish easily what an end users deems necessary. A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing. Perhaps even playing a video or music. Most of these can be far more easily done on a WinXP machine then anything now available in the *nix family. I have spent hours and still can not get flash to work correctly on my PC. Getting a printer to work can be a chore. There was ever a post just the other day regarding the simple use of a CD Drive. I have seen questions asked about using a floppy drive. The list goes on and on. Most seven year olds would be lost on a on FreeBSD machine. FreeBSD is an excellent tool, but it does not serve every purpose excellently. I use it as a server both for mail, and web use. I leave the printing and word processing/spreadsheet stuff on Windows where it works quite nicely. I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. I agree that a large portion of the problems relate to the fact that vendors are not inclined to produce drivers for their products, which in many cases lends these devices either useless or crippled in a FreeBSD environment. However, you cannot hold a gun to their head and expect them to expend the resources required to satisfy every OS available if the monetary returns do not justify it. That is simple economics 101. By the way, you can shut down processes, etc. on a WinXP platform; you just have to know where to look. That is similar to any other OS. You are missing the concept behind Windows. It is designed to be a drop in and run system. Dozens of user polls have shown that the average user just wants to use his PC. He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. They want a new printer - no problem. Drop in the CD, it configures the PC for the printer and the jobs done. Please, don't tell me about the friend who did that and it did not work. Nothing always works. Usually though the problem can be attributed to 'PEBKC'. > Solaris is cool if it will run, FreeBSD will run if > Solaris won't; lets band together and destroy > Micrsoft... :) Please, I just had a friend laid of from Intel. The last thing I would want to see is MS out of business and thousands of people out of work because of your seemingly unqualified hated of a product. If you don't like it, don't use it. How much simpler can it get? I seriously doubt that you can submit proof of a single individual laid off because MS does not embrace your philosophical beliefs. -- White Hat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 14:58:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE1A16A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53C643D53 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:58:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (dpm.xs4all.nl [213.84.11.61]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k86EweeQ068686 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:58:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:58:56 +0200 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB033CBD@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ClamAV upgrade thread-index: AcbRwr6LLoO6bsb0R82F5nJncPnpVgAAeFHA From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: RE: ClamAV upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:58:47 -0000 You'll need to start freshclam. Put in /etc/rc.conf the following line. clamav_freshclam_enable=3D"YES" then start freshclam /usr/local/etc/rc.d/clamac-freshclam start -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] Namens Darryl Hoar Verzonden: woensdag 6 september 2006 16:41 Aan: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Onderwerp: ClamAV upgrade Greetings, I am running Freebsd 6.0-release. I have installed a mail server using the freebsd.qmailrocks.org. I am not familiar with clamav which is installed. ClamAV generates messages in the log that it needs upgraded. Currently at version 0.83 and needs to be 0.88.1. The ClamAV website FAQ for upgrades shows a binaries page. When I look for the Freebsd binary it says to use the /usr/ports system. Anybody have a pointer to the process to upgrade ClamAV ? thanks in advance, Darryl _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 15:00:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE7416A4EC for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB6743D60 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:00:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKyt2-00046g-So; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:00:20 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKyt2-0005Y0-9b; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:00:20 +0100 Message-ID: <44FEE283.4010608@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:00:19 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> <44FEDD32.4040601@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <44FEDD32.4040601@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:00:36 -0000 > > >is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? >or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same >machine? > I realise you may have meant, use one server to build different worlds for different source trees for later installation on other machines. In which case, you can also do that by cvsup-ing your source to somewhere other that /usr/src (e.g. /usr/src-6-STABLE) and building from there. That's the theory, there may be a bit more to it in practise; I've never done it but I'm sure it can be done. hackers@ has had questions in this vein so you could try searching it's archives if no-one here replies with the info. --Alex PS Your server bounced my direct reply: > freebsd@dfwlp.com > SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:: > host zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]: 550 5.7.1 Access denied > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 15:09:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170FD16A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B60E43D58 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:09:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so784209wri for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:09:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EhdgS35FDYqOFn1rMONbxO9joG62cY/lIz71G1vTKbeokuY6cIe/Ol9Xrr4x7Cxn9oDgTa0BnPt9+a+QjBolRcWRWL8J8+pcAnABax1I/kB+fRtvtVuvFqJ2IPsrw/K8jfoOWhzhftTPWsBH/Q48mAGN/BheYmhq1cyrlZW+p1k= Received: by 10.90.54.20 with SMTP id c20mr540290aga; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.93.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:09:16 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "White Hat" In-Reply-To: <20060906144142.32151.qmail@web34413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060906132950.31669.qmail@web83101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060906144142.32151.qmail@web34413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:09:22 -0000 On 06/09/06, White Hat wrote: > > I have > tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is > just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even > close. True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... He/she does > not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a > frustrating attempt to get it to run. This is where you are completely wrong. I work for an ISP. I'm not responsible for tech support but I keep my "ear to the ground". A VERY large number of callers have problems configuring Outlook Express, for example. No matter what the polls say, the experience is often very different. They may not read the manuals (because they are no longer supplied), they just ring a call centre instead. The average user > does not care about configuring firewall, AV or > Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps > Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. That's one statement contradicting the other. > White Hat Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 15:24:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE66716A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05DA43D58 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:24:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 13438 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 08:33:42 -0700 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO darryl) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 08:33:42 -0700 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: "'Johan Hendriks'" , Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:25:38 -0500 Message-ID: <002801c6d1c8$b56753f0$0701a8c0@darryl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB033CBD@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: ClamAV upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:24:37 -0000 evidently I don't have freshclam installed on the system as /usr/local/etc/rc.d does not contain clamac-freshclam. Is there any trick to installing freshclam ? Or do I just use /usr/ports ? thanks. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > Johan Hendriks > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:59 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: ClamAV upgrade > > > > You'll need to start freshclam. > > Put in /etc/rc.conf the following line. > clamav_freshclam_enable="YES" > > then start freshclam > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/clamac-freshclam start > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] Namens Darryl Hoar > Verzonden: woensdag 6 september 2006 16:41 > Aan: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Onderwerp: ClamAV upgrade > > Greetings, > I am running Freebsd 6.0-release. I have installed a mail server > using the freebsd.qmailrocks.org. I am not familiar with clamav > which is installed. ClamAV generates messages in the log that > it needs upgraded. Currently at version 0.83 and needs to be > 0.88.1. The ClamAV website FAQ for upgrades shows a binaries > page. When I look for the Freebsd binary it says to use the > /usr/ports system. > > Anybody have a pointer to the process to upgrade ClamAV ? > > thanks in advance, > Darryl > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 15:24:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19B816A4F2 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B16E43D5F for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:24:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7641BB6939; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:36:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.99.26.81] (helo=[10.0.0.11]) by smtp05.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1GKyVv-0001uC-00; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:36:27 +0200 Message-ID: <44FEDCEA.2060107@web.de> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:36:26 +0200 From: Jona Joachim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> In-Reply-To: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: jaj13@web.de X-Sender: jaj13@web.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:24:41 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? > or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same > machine? > > just wondering. :) Take a look at misc/tinderbox, it may be just what you need. --jona From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 15:34:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06DA16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9724343D64 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:33:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 20459 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 15:33:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XEg6z/AzRtIZ6aKyQxtcW3IKa6NUteCH9nkt/sOc6uPMRmQwqtHckeNimjMVByqUJQhCLa9/80xr3sWN7lSZ1RIjyTIMfRV4/GK14tnyUP2+C2UB5nXEjXEPRH3Sh9Awbc1rnMYNvPK+iBL7Gz7JNKfYbwF+A4nkLQfcPetX7NA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO chaucer.jeays.ca) (mike.jeays@rogers.com@24.43.50.5 with plain) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 15:33:57 -0000 From: Mike jeays To: Danny Pansters In-Reply-To: <200609061236.34004.danny@ricin.com> References: <1157512143.941.5.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> <200609061236.34004.danny@ricin.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:33:56 -0400 Message-Id: <1157556836.941.23.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KBTV setup problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:34:08 -0000 On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 12:36 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > Are you by chance attempting to use bktr's MSP for sound (kernel option)? > That's not supported by kbtv (unless someone who has a card to reproduce this > writes the code), only wiring through the soundcard. > > HTH, > > Dan > > On Wednesday 06 September 2006 05:09, Mike jeays wrote: > > Has anyone else encountered this problem with KBTV? Note that the line > > showing the mixer channel seems to lack an entry. > > > > chaucer 501 /usr/home/mike # btsetup > > btsetup> show > > BKTR - BrookTree/Conexant BT8x8 based cards > > =================================================================== > > BKTR MODULE LOADED........... Yes > > BKTR DEVICE PERMISSIONS...... OK > > BKTR CAPTURE CHIP............ BrookTree 878 > > BKTR TV CARD................. Hauppauge WinCast/TV > > BKTR TUNER TYPE.............. Philips NTSC > > > > SAA - Philips SAA713x based cards > > =================================================================== > > SAA MODULE LOADED............ No > > SAA DEVICE PERMISSIONS....... Not OK > > > > PWC - Philips and compatible USB webcams > > =================================================================== > > PWC MODULE LOADED............ No > > PWC DEVICE PERMISSIONS....... Not OK > > > > SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring > > =================================================================== > > SND MODULE LOADED............ Yes > > AUDIO CHIP................... CMedia CMI8738 > > MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV......... > > btsetup> quit > > > > chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv > > kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "./kbtv_application.py", line 136, in ? > > mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) > > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py", line 118, in __init__ > > self.extendToolbar() > > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py", line 389, in > > extendToolbar > > self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) > > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py", line 48, in > > __init__ > > self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) > > ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" No, I am trying to use the snd drivers via the built-in sound card in the motherboard. I removed all references to the TV card from the kernel definition file, and let it be loaded dynamically, as suggested in the documentation. chaucer 507 /etc # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 37 0xc0400000 387d9c kernel 2 1 0xc0788000 3204 splash_bmp.ko 3 1 0xc078c000 4228 vesa.ko 4 1 0xc07dc000 328c snd_driver.ko 5 2 0xc07e0000 4d08 snd_ad1816.ko 6 29 0xc07e5000 1d9c8 sound.ko 7 2 0xc0803000 4c4c snd_als4000.ko 8 2 0xc0808000 4fcc snd_cmi.ko 9 2 0xc080d000 5514 snd_cs4281.ko 10 4 0xc0813000 74b0 snd_csa.ko 11 2 0xc081b000 bedc snd_ds1.ko 12 2 0xc0827000 7674 snd_emu10k1.ko 13 2 0xc082f000 618c snd_es137x.ko 14 3 0xc0836000 4fd8 snd_ess.ko 15 5 0xc083b000 4894 snd_sbc.ko 16 2 0xc0840000 4984 snd_fm801.ko 17 3 0xc0845000 b3d0 snd_mss.ko 18 2 0xc0851000 5748 snd_ich.ko 19 2 0xc0857000 b508 snd_maestro.ko 20 2 0xc0863000 93f4 snd_maestro3.ko 21 2 0xc086d000 10928 snd_neomagic.ko 22 2 0xc087e000 48cc snd_sb8.ko 23 2 0xc0883000 4ea0 snd_sb16.ko 24 2 0xc0888000 4530 snd_solo.ko 25 2 0xc088d000 51f8 snd_t4dwave.ko 26 2 0xc0893000 5418 snd_via8233.ko 27 2 0xc0899000 45a4 snd_via82c686.ko 28 2 0xc089e000 45a4 snd_vibes.ko 29 1 0xc08a3000 115fc bktr.ko 30 2 0xc08b5000 1e90 bktr_mem.ko 31 16 0xc08b7000 5683c acpi.ko 32 1 0xc1d32000 15000 linux.ko chaucer 508 /etc # -- Mike Jeays Mike.Jeays@rogers.com http://www.jeays.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 15:36:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D5316A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from mail.neti.ee (smtp-out-1.neti.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554B943D66 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:36:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [88.196.111.173] (88-196-111-173-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [88.196.111.173]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905641C3B3; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:36:01 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44FEEAE0.9030103@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:36:00 +0300 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060424) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darryl@osborne-ind.com, questions@freebsd.org References: <002801c6d1c8$b56753f0$0701a8c0@darryl> In-Reply-To: <002801c6d1c8$b56753f0$0701a8c0@darryl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee Cc: Subject: Re: ClamAV upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:36:10 -0000 Darryl Hoar wrote: > evidently I don't have freshclam installed on > the system as /usr/local/etc/rc.d does not > contain clamac-freshclam. As you mmention, you have ClamAV 0.83. If it is installed from FreeBSD ports/packages, this old version didn't have separate startup script for freshclam, but the freshclam binary itself should still exist (use 'which freshclam' to find it). That being said, you really should update to newer version, 0.83 is quite old. > Is there any trick to installing freshclam ? > Or do I just use /usr/ports ? Just use ports (to upgrade ClamAV). Freshclam is part of ClamAV. -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 15:38:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBA216A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: from jan.ukrtel.net (jan.ukrtel.net [195.5.6.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF4343D77 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:38:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: from 141-43-207-82.pool.ukrtel.net ([82.207.43.141] helo=localhost.my.domain) by jan.ukrtel.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GKzTt-000474-FV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:38:25 +0300 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k86FbiTA003306 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:37:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Received: (from elisej@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.7/8.13.6/Submit) id k86FbiWs003305 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:37:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from a@zeos.net) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:37:44 +0300 From: a@zeos.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060906153744.GA3249@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r581 (FreeBSD) Subject: xemacs: how to suppress a warning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:38:32 -0000 Every time I start xemacs, it reads in a separate buffer: (1) (xintl/warning) System supports locale `' but X Windows does not Indeed, locales is as follows: LANG= LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.CP866 LC_COLLATE="C" LC_TIME="C" LC_NUMERIC="C" LC_MONETARY="C" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_ALL= and X Windows does not support ru_RU.CP866. But I do not need this reminder a hundred times in a day. How to prevent this warning? Elisej Babenko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 15:54:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F0916A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: from web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49F4743D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:54:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 95443 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2006 15:54:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QGaUdm9+G6YAG0egu5Cq9DbIEhBGBTdg6+tg8FX4m2lU5CZbmimB8nK45a554bY/V/Bb2O2dsRoEY0UuV7XtMUuEdlOwcXUe0VrdGHrq0d/1SBob7ckVtFYtnLcROIkoY3/ZFjk5m0rxSnYSkPnMpKdczks9bzy0pM0RDGSAhJg= ; Message-ID: <20060906155419.95441.qmail@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.189.184.224] by web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:54:19 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: White Hat To: FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Freminlins Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:54:21 -0000 --- Freminlins wrote: > On 06/09/06, White Hat > wrote: > > > > I have > > tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it > is > > just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not > even > > close. > > > True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? > He/she does > > not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours > in a > > frustrating attempt to get it to run. > > > This is where you are completely wrong. I work for > an ISP. I'm not > responsible for tech support but I keep my "ear to > the ground". A VERY large > number of callers have problems configuring Outlook > Express, for example. No > matter what the polls say, the experience is often > very different. They may > not read the manuals (because they are no longer > supplied), they just ring a > call centre instead. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually it can be obtained for an additonal cost which I suppose is better than nothing. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it has been a boon for the after market book manual publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so called help line assistants who are nothing more than company mouth pieces who have at most a superficial knowledge of the product that they are suppose to be assistant a customer with. I had the experience of talking with a customer support moron who tried to sell me a new router while I attempted to explain the router was fine, but the installation CD was defective. I eventually just sent it back for a replacement. Usually these individuals are barely equipped to handle the job they are given. However, you have made my point. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. > The average user > > does not care about configuring firewall, AV or > > Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with > perhaps > > Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. > > > That's one statement contradicting the other. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care' program suite, that might even obsolete that entire process. I don't think they will offer it with the OS though. Too much of a chance the government will protest. Personally I believe a company should be allowed to market its product anyway it wants without government intervention; however, that is entirely another story. -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Martin Schweizer Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:55:24 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060906061727.GA85336@saturn.pcs.ms> In-Reply-To: <20060906061727.GA85336@saturn.pcs.ms> X-Face: "=L]82cHM+NGLiS.'>u\lu0j9cWt=ccFg>G~.],2MSJ!1{46\L-nW{fVinB14}"(=?utf-8?q?f09I0=3A=0A=09=60so=5FzFTao=7B?=:}]wp:TJ\^>7-Oa`tQY,Tqlz!GMaqqf\Ra; 0`ebm?*-'P+)FpXRP]-)}%@}"=?utf-8?q?+42=7B+gT=24C6HucdR=25LJR=0A=09G?=(V4m; ?|$7CUzt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2167653.kQjz9Da1J2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609061855.33866.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: OpenOffice2 with german user interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:55:45 -0000 --nextPart2167653.kQjz9Da1J2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 06 September 2006 09:17, Martin Schweizer wrote: > > > I installed OOo2 successfully on FreeBSD 6.1 with KDE 3.5.3. The defa= ult > > > language for the user interface is english. How I can change the user > > > interface to german? > > > > > > What I've done: > > > - set the environment to DE like described in the handbook (and it=20 works) > > > - installed the rpm package from the OOo site with german language (f= or > > > linux/intel) > > > > Install from ports: > > > > # For German > > make LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dde install clean > > > > All make knobs are in > > the /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/files/Makefile.knobs > > > > I did the above but the user interface is again in english (also not > possible to change in the settings). What did I wrong? Hmm... Maybe You will find any help on the official page=20 http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ This is my example of OO instalation: Language: Russian my ~/.login_conf ###################### me:\ :charset=3DKOI8-U:\ :lang=3Dru_RU.KOI8-R: ###################### cd /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0 make=20 LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dru -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA -DWITH_CUPS -DWITH_KDE -DWITH_TTF_BYT= ECODE_ENABLED -DWITHOUT_GNOMEVFS=20 install clean As results - all GUI, help and other OO environment are russian by default. Good Luck! =2D-=20 Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) =2D-------------------------------------------------------------- KeyID: 0x2569D30B =46ingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B =2D-------------------------------------------------------------- --nextPart2167653.kQjz9Da1J2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE/u91hLjVFCVp0wsRAyc6AJ47i86LkmqZsQueLuBCiK4DN0RDfgCeKYEt qMHv8KnHFqG4vBtaBmcVjdg= =xCOq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2167653.kQjz9Da1J2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 16:05:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEE016A4E2 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F270E43D69 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:05:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpe-24-210-75-119.columbus.res.rr.com [24.210.75.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k86GHiNV089390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:17:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) From: Anish Mistry Organization: AM Productions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:05:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060903105551.92475.qmail@web52304.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060903105551.92475.qmail@web52304.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2287607.E1zkJT9obK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200609061205.50491.amistry@am-productions.biz> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MYFREEBSD2, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1811/Tue Sep 5 21:32:58 2006 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: "Sean M." , Andriy Babiy Subject: Re: hp_no_device_found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:05:25 -0000 --nextPart2287607.E1zkJT9obK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 03 September 2006 06:55, Sean M. wrote: > Follow these directions: http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php > > --- Andriy Babiy wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Could you advise me on how to properly configure my printing? > > I have LaserJet HP-1022, on FreeBSD 6.1 and CUPS-1.2. > > I installed hplip, hpijs, and foomatic-*. > > > > (as root) > > hp-setup says: ERROR no devices found > > In CUPS I see: hp_no_device_found > > > > dmesg shows: > > ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 1022, rev. 2.00/1.00, addr 2, > > iclass 7/1 > > ulpt0: using bi-directional mode > > > > I can add printer on /dev/ulpt0, and choose HP-1022 from the > > list, and even > > send a test page to the printer, which isn't printed though. > > > > There might be something wrong in the configuration, I think. > > Could you advise > > me on how to get the printer working? > > Thank you in advance for your assistance and ideas! See my latest update to PR ports/100413. Thanks, =2D-=20 Anish Mistry amistry@am-productions.biz AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ --nextPart2287607.E1zkJT9obK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE/vHexqA5ziudZT0RAkYZAJ0WiwlYO/4Rci/NCH/omNiNGDscNgCgtXxz X/T70KDA3K8wC5Bei6edEtM= =cG75 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2287607.E1zkJT9obK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 16:31:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C6B16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (wintermute.cepheid.org [64.92.165.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C6243D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:31:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 9B928170D8; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:31:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:31:27 -0500 From: Erik Osterholm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060906163127.GA88152@idoru.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Anyone using the txp interface driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:31:28 -0000 I sent a PR in for a problem in if_txp.c back in July and haven't seen any activity on it. Now I'm not complaining--I know that the developers are pretty busy. I'm just wondering if anyone else sees this problem or if I'm just going crazy. Basically, on a clean install of 6.1-RELEASE with a 3Com 3cR990-TX-97, the card can be brought up and will talk on the network as expected. If the interface is ever brought down and then back up, it fails to talk anymore. I tested it a bit more and found that various combinations of bringing that interface up and down can eventually trigger an interrupt storm, though I have yet to learn how to consistently reproduce this. So my question--does anyone even use these cards, and if so, do you also see this behavior? Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 16:41:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BDE16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE90843D6B for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:41:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GL0Ss-000BIB-81; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:41:26 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20060906144142.32151.qmail@web34413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060906144142.32151.qmail@web34413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:41:24 -0600 To: White Hat X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:41:27 -0000 On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:41 AM, White Hat wrote: > Most of these can be far more easily done on a WinXP > machine then anything now available in the *nix > family. OS X will do it as easily or more easily for the average person than WinXP. OS X is a unix based OS. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 16:59:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CDE16A4EC for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AF043D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:59:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so819789wri for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:59:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OOocoeCjOe5XjLN58GrMYULJ49lsHJDN3HbrAdHrNR3ghJV6x+hothV/EbDyjeTX7Jn9/uszHMXP3wPaPds/jNUEDF9ZehDLARtQQJki/gUFh6UmBtlB8fqWRn7Zo/JZJuaEeqenJ0XfnU1U78v//rdu0CfVX0wVy36vTU/IqSs= Received: by 10.90.84.17 with SMTP id h17mr677107agb; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609060959jbaacd15rb1ac280563d1fbbe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:59:44 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "FreeBSD Users Questions" , Freminlins In-Reply-To: <20060906155419.95441.qmail@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060906155419.95441.qmail@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:59:47 -0000 On 06/09/06, White Hat wrote: > > --- Freminlins wrote: > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > wrote: > > > > > > I have > > > tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it > > is > > > just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not > > even > > > close. > > > > > > True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... > > Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is > suitability to task. If it is free and it does not > work, what good is it? In what way does it "not work"? It's enough for many people, so why should they pay more? > He/she does > > > not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours > > in a > > > frustrating attempt to get it to run. > > > > > > This is where you are completely wrong. I work for > > an ISP. I'm not > > responsible for tech support but I keep my "ear to > > the ground". A VERY large > > number of callers have problems configuring Outlook > > Express, for example. No > > matter what the polls say, the experience is often > > very different. They may > > not read the manuals (because they are no longer > > supplied), they just ring a > > call centre instead. > > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually it > can be obtained for an additonal cost which I suppose > is better than nothing. The same lack of documentation > plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it > has been a boon for the after market book manual > publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so called > help line assistants who are nothing more than company > mouth pieces who have at most a superficial knowledge > of the product that they are suppose to be assistant a > customer with. I had the experience of talking with a > customer support moron who tried to sell me a new > router while I attempted to explain the router was > fine, but the installation CD was defective. I > eventually just sent it back for a replacement. > Usually these individuals are barely equipped to > handle the job they are given. > > However, you have made my point. If a user cannot > decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook > Express, and there are programs available that will do > it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable > of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind > -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is > handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user > cannot configure something when it is simplified down > to that level. So on the one hand you think that for the sake of the morons FreeBSD should made into something other than "a CLI OS" (which if you put KDE or GNOME on it it already is, btw), and on the other hand you despise the morons who can't even use a wizard? > The average user > > > does not care about configuring firewall, AV or > > > Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with > > perhaps > > > Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. > > > > > > That's one statement contradicting the other. > > How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run > them and case closed. Neither one requires any > significant configuration. The defaults work just fine > for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy > since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but > I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. A decent router does not "require any significant configuration" either, despite the fact that it should include a firewall. And if you use a router/firewall, you shouldn't need to configure a firewall on your desktop/server either. BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care' program > suite, that might even obsolete that entire process. I > don't think they will offer it with the OS though. Too > much of a chance the government will protest. > Personally I believe a company should be allowed to > market its product anyway it wants without government > intervention; however, that is entirely another story. > > -- That's a good idea. And I should be able to procure products and settle scores anyway I want without government intervention, too. Jeff Rollin -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 17:00:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38A116A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee_shackelford@dot.ca.gov) Received: from trmx001.dot.ca.gov (svhqsacsmtp01.dot.ca.gov [64.174.7.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6333643D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:00:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lee_shackelford@dot.ca.gov) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Lee Shackelford Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:00:35 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SACSMTP01/SVR/Caltrans/CAGov(Release 6.55FP1HF70 | July 20, 2006) at 09/06/2006 10:00:36 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:00:37 -0000 Initial message posted on 8/24/2006: Good morning dear FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install FreeBSD 6.1 on a Compaq Proliant 5000. The computer is equipped with four Pentium Pro processors clocked at 200 mhz and with a Smart 2/P hardware-RAID array. The BIOS indicates that the first two processors have failed. They are actually okay, but there is something wrong with their socket on the motherboard... Current message: Thank you to the two people who responded to my original message. With their help, I have progressed to the point of specifying the slice into which I want the system installed. There are three primary slices on this computer, plus one extended slice. The three primary slices all end within the 1024 cylinder limit. The two primary slices that do not contain FreeBSD are reserved for the installation of other operating systems. I wish to place the swap slice/partition in the extended slice. The fdisk program supplied with FreeBSD sees all of the extended slice as one slice, and does not seem to be able to see the logical slices within it. Most of my 15 gb. drive is in the extended slice. Does anyone know how to solve this problem? All suggestions are appreciated. Yours truly, Lee Shackelford From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 17:27:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C9016A4E1 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6752443D55 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:27:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=49270 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GL1BR-0007r1-HE; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:27:29 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.221.74]:50522 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1GL1BP-0002uE-V8; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:27:27 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: Mike jeays Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:27:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <1157512143.941.5.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> <200609061236.34004.danny@ricin.com> <1157556836.941.23.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> In-Reply-To: <1157556836.941.23.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_/Tw/EPzVjY0dEyo" Message-Id: <200609061927.27533.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KBTV setup problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:27:49 -0000 --Boundary-00=_/Tw/EPzVjY0dEyo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:33, you wrote: > > > SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring > > > =================================================================== > > > SND MODULE LOADED............ Yes > > > AUDIO CHIP................... CMedia CMI8738 Hmm, someone else had the same problem a while ago, also had a CMedia CMI8738. I guess that driver doesn't work well with python's ossaudiodev module that kbtv uses to handle audio. This would be something to be coordinated by the snd_cmi and python maintainers I'm afraid. Maybe snd_cmi doesn't support ossaudio device/mixer at all? If you try the attached test that I sent him (put both files somewhere in the same directory and run 'python test.py' from there), do you get: % python test.py DEBUG: IOError or OSSAudioError occured ? If so, and there's nothing wrong with permissions on dsp and mixer devices, that would confirm my hypothesis (can you let me know if this is the case?) Sorry. Maybe you can try with a separate sound card. At least I know now that the MSP is not the problem. Thanks for the feedback, Dan > > > MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV......... > > > btsetup> quit > > > > > > chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv > > > kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the > > > program Traceback (most recent call last): > > > File "./kbtv_application.py", line 136, in ? > > > mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) > > > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py", line 118, in __init__ > > > self.extendToolbar() > > > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py", line 389, in > > > extendToolbar > > > self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) > > > File "/usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py", line 48, in > > > __init__ > > > self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) > > > ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list PS: It's possible to set mchan to, say, line in the code instead of uninitialized, but I would think that would only make things better cosmetically (no crash) but it wouldn't make sound work. > No, I am trying to use the snd drivers via the built-in sound card in > the motherboard. I removed all references to the TV card from the > kernel definition file, and let it be loaded dynamically, as suggested > in the documentation. > > chaucer 507 /etc # kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 37 0xc0400000 387d9c kernel > 2 1 0xc0788000 3204 splash_bmp.ko > 3 1 0xc078c000 4228 vesa.ko > 4 1 0xc07dc000 328c snd_driver.ko > 5 2 0xc07e0000 4d08 snd_ad1816.ko > 6 29 0xc07e5000 1d9c8 sound.ko > 7 2 0xc0803000 4c4c snd_als4000.ko > 8 2 0xc0808000 4fcc snd_cmi.ko --Boundary-00=_/Tw/EPzVjY0dEyo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:16:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3DF16A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E633343D69 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:16:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so1203481nzn for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:16:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ebAb+gJoiFMJCdGw2KUmp0Kul+eFHJi5YbJ/RTGNwQIjtNEMU5o5MNxqZmft6eKIAv8XEjFY4wgV7JQfBPBkjr8bZYOitDCGEfNdh3M9urQOfoIOrsZHRX2G5TN0Aw/CQcmm9YjVomMqiYmpIuf04nk2cxS57BcFnHfbJr8DoSY= Received: by 10.65.81.19 with SMTP id i19mr8985965qbl; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.84.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:16:02 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:16:09 -0000 On 9/6/06, Jonathan Horne wrote: > is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? > or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same > machine? buildworld and buildkernel targets are fairly sophisticated. The /usr/obj tree corresponds to the source directory, so if you have your 5.5 sources in /src/5.5 and your 6.1 sources in /src/6.1 (or /usr/src/6.1 for that matter) the world(s) would be built in /usr/obj/src/5.5/ and /usr/obj/src/6.1/ repsectively. (Or /usr/obj/usr/src/6.1) If the purpose is to buildworld on one fast machine and then export it to slower machines on th' network, this works admirably well. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:17:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1910F16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: from web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5347443D5F for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:17:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77133 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2006 18:17:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=x6NN0pcXd3PPe1HEXqWtKEO2TKSfoZO9+n5LhDOX7HEAzdKAPt9f7GDj/gax/m5R5nSH87nkw5lEX2lDPpJLBC93UGJmq14uejyFOcFOllHJOQyr/kA+WgpqiF0wDDLKzMV2m2iQwN3W8QRVgmT2LuZOtmDxRIiTDbxZVFPboug= ; Message-ID: <20060906181707.77131.qmail@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.189.184.224] by web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:17:07 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: White Hat To: FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: <8a0028260609060959jbaacd15rb1ac280563d1fbbe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:17:14 -0000 --- Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 06/09/06, White Hat > wrote: > > > > --- Freminlins wrote: > > > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have > > > > tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, > it > > > is > > > > just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is > not > > > even > > > > close. > > > > > > > > > True, but also compare the cost. Not even > close... > > > > Immaterial. the singularly most important feature > is > > suitability to task. If it is free and it does not > > work, what good is it? > > > In what way does it "not work"? It's enough for many > people, so why should > they pay more? I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply said that it was not suitable for the tasks that both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. Again, the price of an object is secondary to its usefulness. At the very least it has to be compared against it. > > He/she does > > > > not want to read tons of manuals and spend > hours > > > in a > > > > frustrating attempt to get it to run. > > > > > > > > > This is where you are completely wrong. I work > for > > > an ISP. I'm not > > > responsible for tech support but I keep my "ear > to > > > the ground". A VERY large > > > number of callers have problems configuring > Outlook > > > Express, for example. No > > > matter what the polls say, the experience is > often > > > very different. They may > > > not read the manuals (because they are no longer > > > supplied), they just ring a > > > call centre instead. > > > > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually > it > > can be obtained for an additonal cost which I > suppose > > is better than nothing. The same lack of > documentation > > plagues every facet of software today. Of course, > it > > has been a boon for the after market book manual > > publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so > called > > help line assistants who are nothing more than > company > > mouth pieces who have at most a superficial > knowledge > > of the product that they are suppose to be > assistant a > > customer with. I had the experience of talking > with a > > customer support moron who tried to sell me a new > > router while I attempted to explain the router was > > fine, but the installation CD was defective. I > > eventually just sent it back for a replacement. > > Usually these individuals are barely equipped to > > handle the job they are given. > > > > However, you have made my point. If a user cannot > > decipher how to configure a simple thing like > Outlook > > Express, and there are programs available that > will do > > it for them, then how are they suppose to be > capable > > of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the > mind > > -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE > is > > handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user > > cannot configure something when it is simplified > down > > to that level. > > > So on the one hand you think that for the sake of > the morons FreeBSD should > made into something other than "a CLI OS" (which if > you put KDE or GNOME on > it it already is, btw), and on the other hand you > despise the morons who > can't even use a wizard? I never inferred that FBSD should evolve into anything. It performs quite nicely as a CLI. Printing is not all that great, and the use of many devices such as web cams can prove to be a chore to install, but that has more to due with the creators of those devices and lack thereof of proper drivers, etc. Even devices that do work are not always fully supported. Again, most likely the device creators are not supporting the device under FreeBSD, or any other OS except win32. Again, it is all about monetary return. I cannot blame them, I like to eat too. Furthermore, I never said I despise anyone, except perhaps pseudo technical help employees. However, even they have to eat. I stated that it was a sad day when someone could not ever configure OE, even when assisted with a wizard. I think it is rather obvious that these individuals would not be the target market for FBSD. > > The average user > > > > does not care about configuring firewall, AV > or > > > > Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with > > > perhaps > > > > Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their > way. > > > > > > > > > That's one statement contradicting the other. > > > > How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run > > them and case closed. Neither one requires any > > significant configuration. The defaults work just > fine > > for most users. You could eliminate the Counter > Spy > > since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, > but > > I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. > > > A decent router does not "require any significant > configuration" either, > despite the fact that it should include a firewall. > And if you use a > router/firewall, you shouldn't need to configure a > firewall on your > desktop/server either. The key word here is 'significant'. That varies by user to user. I believe that the use of an internal firewall might very well be dictated by a users LAN configuration. I only have four units networked together, with only one avenue to the Internet, so perhaps I don't need an extensive internal firewall. However, I am sure that many users do. In any case, a router is not an AV/SpyWare detection and elimination program. > BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care' > program > > suite, that might even obsolete that entire > process. I > > don't think they will offer it with the OS though. > Too > > much of a chance the government will protest. > > Personally I believe a company should be allowed > to > > market its product anyway it wants without > government > > intervention; however, that is entirely another > story. > > > > > That's a good idea. And I should be able to procure > products and settle > scores anyway I want without government > intervention, too. Way out of line. No where did I even suggest the idea of retribution. I assume that is what you are referring to by "settle scores". I believe that within a few carefully crafted guidelines perhaps, a developer should be free to create and offer for sale, distribution, give it away free for all I car (FreeBSD) any item that they so desire. Let the market decide whether or not the item if of any value. Furthermore, I never mentioned 'procure' in my statement. That is your own concoction. I am dead set fascism, socialism or any other type of 'ism' you want to infer when it comes to the freedom of creating and marketing. Obviously, with a few carefully crafted regulation; i.e., say of prescription drugs, explosives -- things like that. I don't want to get involved with basic economy 101 here however. -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:19:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A930216A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462A743D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i21so961453wra for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=k3PQ86BMe8+zTqZ76mVfGzVCq8m1pKD0XkT+uISFdNluPKSAHJ173BBLluUNYzGDbNBHsec3IAuowIgE5PZ1I7ug9YlOnch8UeCN0/a2YDx2tFuLZQVb4M1Gu14v+T1XDWbvvyWLjLC8YevoJZwy/KhYrTqlxohMNESDyUznPRc= Received: by 10.90.120.6 with SMTP id s6mr2390813agc; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.93.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:18:58 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "White Hat" In-Reply-To: <20060906155419.95441.qmail@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060906155419.95441.qmail@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:19:01 -0000 On 06/09/06, White Hat wrote: > > > Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is > suitability to task. If it is free and it does not > work, what good is it? It depends what you are using it for. You made a comment about "occaisonal word processing" (pasted below). For such use OpenOffice is perfectly good enough. > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack. > The same lack of documentation > plagues every facet of software today. No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented. However, you have made my point. No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You said " A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing." I am saying that using XP as you suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very large number of people. If a user cannot > decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook > Express, and there are programs available that will do > it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable > of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind > -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is > handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user > cannot configure something when it is simplified down > to that level. It's not so much the wizards, but third party applications like virus scanners which change those settings which is a part of the problem. But you are not quite comparing apples with apples. Configuring Thunderbird on FreeBSD is near enough identical to doing the same on Windows. I wouldn't however expect a complete computer novice to be able to set up a FreeBSD box without some help. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run > them and case closed. Neither one requires any > significant configuration. The defaults work just fine > for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy > since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but > I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. Your statement is simply wrong. AV and anti-spyware DO require configuration. And they do require installing, and maybe downloading, and being kept up to date. The defaults certainly don't work all the time in all cases. Have a look here: " http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/06/faulty_ca_update/". I have heard of broken installations for Norton numerous times. And trying to help these customers is time-consuming for our techies. Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:26:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F8A16A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C5743D64 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:25:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k86IPm1G035514 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k86IPlqk035513 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:25:47 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060906182547.GA35420@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: troubles with 6. booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:26:04 -0000 Two toubles with my reinstallation of FBSD seem to be, one, that getty can't exec and that acpi: bad read|write from|to port 71|70 I'm back in at single user mode, but but's abut it. (I ran mergermaster, but it was a very short run.) Suggestions? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:27:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DD816A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from crayfish.unsane.co.uk (badger.unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0584343D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:27:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by crayfish.unsane.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k86IQNlY001551 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:26:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <44FF12CF.8060804@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:26:23 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Bliss References: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20a8c0f30609051744r71f9f47ak831a418cb063f836@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: easy patch management tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:27:15 -0000 Aaron Bliss wrote: > Hi everyone, first let me say that I'm pretty new to bsd, so please > forgive > the newbie questions; I've been using linux (redhat, suse, centos) for > many > years, and so learning bsd was a bit of a learning curve, but not bad (I > almost never use gui's for administration); I was wondering if there > are any > packagement tools for freebsd/pcbsd that offer simular functionality to > up2date or yum; I take care of installing and updating complete rpm based > systems using yum, and have not found a tool simular to yum for > freebds (I'm > also trying to stay away from pbi's, since they are specific to > pcbsd); I've > used the pkg_add, pkg_delete, portupgrade tools, but am just looking > for an > easy way to ensure my entire bsd box is updated; Also, as I understand > it, > bsd makes use of ports, by using tools such as cvsup, however I have > never > had much success compiling my own software, as such much prefer to use > binary packages, which I understand that the freebsd authors provide; for > example, if I wanted to install pine, I would much rather install it by > running pkg_add -r pine ; I'm just looking for a simple way to update > currently installed binaries, simular to installing new binaries with > pkg_add ; thanks very much for your help with this. > > Aaron portupgrade has an option in /usr/local/etc/pktools.conf which sounds like what you want. # USE_PKGS: array # USE_PKGS_ONLY: array # # These are lists of ports that you prefer to use packages to # upgrade or install. They apply -P/--use-packages and # -PP/--use-packages-only to specific ports, respectively. # # cf. -P/--use-packages and -PP/--use-packages-only of # portupgrade(1) and portinstall(1) # # e.g.: # USE_PKGS = [ # 'perl', # 'ruby', # 'python', # ] # # USE_PKGS_ONLY = [ # 'x11*/XFree86*', # '*openoffice*', # ] USE_PKGS = [ ] USE_PKGS_ONLY = [ ] use portversion -l "<" to see whats not at the latest version, and use portaudit to see which (if any) have security issues. I use USE_PKGS = [ "*/*", ] on machines what are slow or low on disk space but let portupgrade build from source otherwise as I like to fine tune the compile options from time to time hope this helps. Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:35:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E129816A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D84243D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:35:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout11/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86IZewk002934 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (cpe-065-191-021-225.nc.res.rr.com [65.191.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86IZc2Z022656 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1DCB2E8B-7372-41F2-ADAF-9BC8697227B3@mac.com> From: g Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:35:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: installing ssh after freebsd has been installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:35:41 -0000 how do is install ssh once i've installed freebsd 6.1? i used sysinstall. check ssh in the networking section. ok'ed my and exited my way back to the system prompt. as root i typed /usr/sbin/sshd i get from the system: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host/dsa_key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. do i need to reinstall the os, 6.1, in-order for it to setup ssh and create those files, ssh_host_ ...? g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:40:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E282E16A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihilt@mcgregor-surmount.com) Received: from mcgregor-surmount.com (mail.mcgregor-surmount.com [70.61.40.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCAC43D66 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:40:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ihilt@mcgregor-surmount.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:40:11 -0400 Message-ID: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C1@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Origin of hard drive parameters Thread-Index: AcbR4+I6bNqlSH5xTeGOdWSiyDKrxQ== From: "Hilt, Ian" To: Subject: Origin of hard drive parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:40:14 -0000 Basically, I want to know where the BIOS gets the hard drive parameters when the Drive Type is set to "AUTO" in the BIOS configuration. The best I've been able to come up with from the internet is an "IDENTIFY" command that purportedly () gets its information from the "IDE controller". This does not answer my question completely. Are the parameters returned by the controller hard coded into a chip on the board or are they on the platters of the hard drive, or neither? I realize this is a mailing list for FreeBSD. However, I use FreeBSD on a regular basis, enjoy its "under-the-hood" structure, and have found it difficult to "play" in a windows operating environment. I have also found the FreeBSD mailing lists to be a source of useful information from times past. These are the reasons I decided to post to the FreeBSD mailing list. If this is not the place to ask such questions, thanks for reading my post and I'll continue my search elsewhere. Ian Graeme Hilt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:41:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D4716A525 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC53B43D7C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:41:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k86IeeXx068206; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:40:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k86IeeXx068206 Message-ID: <44FF1617.20303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:40:23 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: g References: <1DCB2E8B-7372-41F2-ADAF-9BC8697227B3@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <1DCB2E8B-7372-41F2-ADAF-9BC8697227B3@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig960ECA96789AE8D4FDA0A27B" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:41:00 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1815/Wed Sep 6 16:42:27 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing ssh after freebsd has been installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:41:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig960ECA96789AE8D4FDA0A27B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable g wrote: > how do is install ssh once i've installed freebsd 6.1? >=20 > i used sysinstall. check ssh in the networking section. ok'ed my and > exited my way back to the system prompt. >=20 > as root i typed /usr/sbin/sshd >=20 > i get from the system: >=20 > Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host/dsa_key > Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key > sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. >=20 > do i need to reinstall the os, 6.1, in-order for it to setup ssh and > create those files, ssh_host_ ...? >=20 The system startup script for sshd will create any necessary key files if= they are missing. Try the following: # killall sshd # /etc/rc.d/sshd start Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig960ECA96789AE8D4FDA0A27B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE/xYo8Mjk52CukIwRCOjxAJ9zIFPtT90v9+yOWV5Ui5htpeUK+QCeM729 wGvfkwqZVsyB+CNMyngHgkA= =C62T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig960ECA96789AE8D4FDA0A27B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:41:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2BE16A501 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B3143D6D for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:41:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:41:24 -0400 id 00056419.44FF1654.00001293 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 6 Sep 2006 14:39:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:41:23 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: g Message-Id: <20060906144123.5c6cad3a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <1DCB2E8B-7372-41F2-ADAF-9BC8697227B3@mac.com> References: <1DCB2E8B-7372-41F2-ADAF-9BC8697227B3@mac.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing ssh after freebsd has been installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:41:26 -0000 In response to g : > how do is install ssh once i've installed freebsd 6.1? > > i used sysinstall. check ssh in the networking section. ok'ed my > and exited my way back to the system prompt. > > as root i typed /usr/sbin/sshd > > i get from the system: > > Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host/dsa_key > Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key > sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. > > do i need to reinstall the os, 6.1, in-order for it to setup ssh and > create those files, ssh_host_ ...? Use the /etc/rc.d/sshd script to start/stop sshd. It will detect the above condition and take care of it. Assuming you've set up your config files properly, you could also reboot the system. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:50:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BFB16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 123E343D4C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:50:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 22168 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 18:50:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.146.217.210) by smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.227) with ESMTP; 06 Sep 2006 18:50:45 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:50:41 -0500 To: Shane Ambler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: justin@pcmedicsite.com, FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Gnome 2 - Fuzziness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:50:46 -0000 On 5 September 2006, at 10:22, Shane Ambler wrote: > > > One good thing I like is KDE will run the gnome apps but gnome > won't run KDE > apps. Does for me. > So you don't loose out on any choices with KDE. > > It is in ports at /usr/ports/x11/kde3, but you may want to get hold > of the > pre-built package and install from that. > > > -- > > Shane Ambler > Shane@007Marketing.com > > Get Sheeky @ http://Sheeky.Biz > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:52:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCE016A4DF for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys24.mail.msu.edu (sys24.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D9543D72 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:52:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys24.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GL2Vq-0002A7-BG; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:52:38 -0400 From: "Jerold McAllister" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:52:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Any burncd changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:52:39 -0000 Hi All, I have read through release notes, etc and not seen anything, but I am wondering if there have been any changes in recent FreeBSD releases - especially 6.xx, (but possibly 5.xx), that would affect burncd(8) and how it works - or if it works. I have a machine that was at about 4.11 and burned CDs on it with no problem using burncd. Nearly all of these were boot/install CDs - including the one to install FreeBSD 6.1. But immediately after installing 6.1, I can no longer successfully burn a CD. It seems to go through the motions but then nothing seems to get on the CD. I would just write this off as a CD burner gone bad except I have another box here that doesn't seem to want to burn a CD using burncd now that it has been upgraded to 6.0 and this machine has rarely been used for making CDs. Anyway, it is still probably a failing burner, but I want to make sure I am not overlooking something that would account for this happening just as I did the upgrades - actually fresh clean installs. Thanks for any information you might have, ////jerry Jerry McAllister jerrymc@msu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:54:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5C116A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: from web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C938643D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 41022 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2006 18:54:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SMqkiw9rJpEjXSs8sslLi//G+QTVvs9Z/3Y5u/WDilVcSs/tbdeSQps2gOor422+L2TvAA9d663wl03RmS5IeyCti/hZTdEuUrFmEKzZ9FusHlnnea7hoDtmeP5x+OPKE211h/IMN9T15YsOTCLZOzBCHH5YzOlNsOVpchY9r3M= ; Message-ID: <20060906185449.41020.qmail@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.189.184.224] by web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:54:49 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:54:49 -0700 (PDT) From: White Hat To: FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:54:50 -0000 --- Freminlins wrote: > On 06/09/06, White Hat > wrote: > > > > > > Immaterial. the singularly most important feature > is > > suitability to task. If it is free and it does not > > work, what good is it? > > It depends what you are using it for. You made a > comment about "occaisonal > word processing" (pasted below). For such use > OpenOffice is perfectly good > enough. That is a totally unqualified evaluation. While it may be totally suitable for one individual, that in no way infers that it meets the requirements of another. There is no way you can define an end users requirements based solely on your own usage. > > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. > > In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack. You are kidding right. I can find vastly more documentation available for a win32 machine than for FBSD. In fact, the lact of documentation is one of the reasons that support groups like this evolved. To my great dismay, I am forced to search for and then download documentation via the web. Even then, that is often dated. Not anyones fault, it is just the way it goes. > > The same lack of documentation > > plagues every facet of software today. > > No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented. It is above average, I will agree. However, if it were really perfect then this forum would not exist. > > However, you have made my point. > > No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You > said " A very large > majority of users simply want to use their PCs for > email, occasional word > processing and possible game playing." I am saying > that using XP as you > suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very > large number of people. If that were true, MS would not rule 90+ percent of the PCs in use today. Why do you think users in third rate countries pirate MS when they could get FBSD for free? I would not want to insult anyone; however, if you cannot install an MS operating system then perhaps you should consider another hobby. Even my wife's sister can handle that project, and that is a woman who considers a can opener a high tech device. > > If a user cannot > > decipher how to configure a simple thing like > Outlook > > Express, and there are programs available that > will do > > it for them, then how are they suppose to be > capable > > of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the > mind > > -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE > is > > handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user > > cannot configure something when it is simplified > down > > to that level. > > It's not so much the wizards, but third party > applications like virus > scanners which change those settings which is a part > of the problem. But you > are not quite comparing apples with apples. > Configuring Thunderbird on > FreeBSD is near enough identical to doing the same > on Windows. I wouldn't > however expect a complete computer novice to be able > to set up a FreeBSD box > without some help. You have users here with 10+ years experience who run int problems. It is just the nature of the beast. It comes with the territory. > How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run > > them and case closed. Neither one requires any > > significant configuration. The defaults work just > fine > > for most users. You could eliminate the Counter > Spy > > since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, > but > > I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. > > > Your statement is simply wrong. AV and anti-spyware > DO require > configuration. And they do require installing, and > maybe downloading, and > being kept up to date. The defaults certainly don't > work all the time in all > cases. Have a look here: " Obviously it required installation. Before you can install, it is again obvious that you must secure the item. One size definitely does not fit all. What is your point? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/06/faulty_ca_update/". > I have heard of > broken installations for Norton numerous times. And > trying to help these > customers is time-consuming for our techies. Norton is pathetic, that I will agree with you on that one. That is why I switched three years ago to ZA. It has never given me a moment of trouble, although the CA AV it uses by default is not RFC 2595 compliant which was causing my network problems. One I corrected it though, everything was back to normal. BTW, 'time consuming for your techies'? Ah gee, like what are they paid for? To stand around and kiss each others butt. I am sick of over paid techies who have no working knowledge of what they are doing. If they find their job to stressful, quit! Please do me one favor, do not CC me. I am continually getting two copies of these. I subscribe to the list. I don't send you duplicate copies and therefore would appreciate the same cutesy. Perhaps my address was already inserted by a previous poster. If so, please do remove it. Thank You! -- White Hat pigskin_referee@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 18:55:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24AD16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313D043D4C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:55:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86ItKpk014282; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86ItHJb001481; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:55:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C1@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> References: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C1@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <91AFEF09-05EE-41BE-846F-665FBE64EE06@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:55:17 -0700 To: "Hilt, Ian" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:55:21 -0000 On Sep 6, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Hilt, Ian wrote: > Basically, I want to know where the BIOS gets the hard drive > parameters > when the Drive Type is set to "AUTO" in the BIOS configuration. The > best > I've been able to come up with from the internet is an "IDENTIFY" > command that purportedly > () gets its > information from the "IDE controller". This does not answer my > question > completely. Are the parameters returned by the controller hard coded > into a chip on the board or are they on the platters of the hard > drive, > or neither? "Neither" is probably the best answer. The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA "IDENTIFY DEVICE" command with the hard drive parameters used by the BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. Note that the answer the drive controller gives will normally be a fabricated geometry which does not have anything to do with the actual geometry of the physical device, in part because drives nowadays keep a variable number of sectors per track rather than using a CAV layout. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 19:01:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB7016A4F0 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B7A43DE1 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:01:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86J0t9b000674 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (cpe-065-191-021-225.nc.res.rr.com [65.191.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86J0nmD022118 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20060906144123.5c6cad3a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> References: <1DCB2E8B-7372-41F2-ADAF-9BC8697227B3@mac.com> <20060906144123.5c6cad3a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Message-Id: <1ABF35EC-ABB8-4388-A67A-68614282174D@mac.com> From: g Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:00:49 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: installing ssh after freebsd has been installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:01:55 -0000 Thanks, Bill and Matthew, your suggestions did the trick. g. On Sep 6, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to g : > >> how do is install ssh once i've installed freebsd 6.1? >> >> i used sysinstall. check ssh in the networking section. ok'ed my >> and exited my way back to the system prompt. >> >> as root i typed /usr/sbin/sshd >> >> i get from the system: >> >> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host/dsa_key >> Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key >> sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. >> >> do i need to reinstall the os, 6.1, in-order for it to setup ssh and >> create those files, ssh_host_ ...? > > Use the /etc/rc.d/sshd script to start/stop sshd. It will detect the > above condition and take care of it. > > Assuming you've set up your config files properly, you could also > reboot the system. > > -- > Bill Moran > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 19:15:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E097916A4EB for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:15:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A7F43D6D for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:15:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2749853wxd for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:15:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hzx8AXnYxih4nxJZxvUYTBaanO7dLkE3wh5+pJRcYFwrq4ndNvP+dcRHmIzoHWpXprhG6Y3Gby+95ObfRUE/4iQoWHUuhTgULU4z566qq3nVEcVSvP99GAEEX4HG6QZsBKJUUvf5qLQxljBTDh3TYF1g275ZKidJqH3SHBXlAo0= Received: by 10.90.78.16 with SMTP id a16mr2425937agb; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609061214s2379914naf1af41b9d9b39ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:15:00 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "FreeBSD Users Questions" In-Reply-To: <20060906181707.77131.qmail@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260609060959jbaacd15rb1ac280563d1fbbe@mail.gmail.com> <20060906181707.77131.qmail@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:15:09 -0000 On 06/09/06, White Hat wrote: > > --- Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > wrote: > > > > > > --- Freminlins wrote: > > > > > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have > > > > > tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, > > it > > > > is > > > > > just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is > > not > > > > even > > > > > close. > > > > > > > > > > > > True, but also compare the cost. Not even > > close... > > > > > > Immaterial. the singularly most important feature > > is > > > suitability to task. If it is free and it does not > > > work, what good is it? > > > > > > In what way does it "not work"? It's enough for many > > people, so why should > > they pay more? > > I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply > said that it was not suitable for the tasks that both > I, and primarily my wife, use it for. No, you said "it does not work." It's up there in black and white. Again, the price > of an object is secondary to its usefulness. At the > very least it has to be compared against it. > > > > He/she does > > > > > not want to read tons of manuals and spend > > hours > > > > in a > > > > > frustrating attempt to get it to run. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is where you are completely wrong. I work > > for > > > > an ISP. I'm not > > > > responsible for tech support but I keep my "ear > > to > > > > the ground". A VERY large > > > > number of callers have problems configuring > > Outlook > > > > Express, for example. No > > > > matter what the polls say, the experience is > > often > > > > very different. They may > > > > not read the manuals (because they are no longer > > > > supplied), they just ring a > > > > call centre instead. > > > > > > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually > > it > > > can be obtained for an additonal cost which I > > suppose > > > is better than nothing. The same lack of > > documentation > > > plagues every facet of software today. Of course, > > it > > > has been a boon for the after market book manual > > > publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so > > called > > > help line assistants who are nothing more than > > company > > > mouth pieces who have at most a superficial > > knowledge > > > of the product that they are suppose to be > > assistant a > > > customer with. I had the experience of talking > > with a > > > customer support moron who tried to sell me a new > > > router while I attempted to explain the router was > > > fine, but the installation CD was defective. I > > > eventually just sent it back for a replacement. > > > Usually these individuals are barely equipped to > > > handle the job they are given. > > > > > > However, you have made my point. If a user cannot > > > decipher how to configure a simple thing like > > Outlook > > > Express, and there are programs available that > > will do > > > it for them, then how are they suppose to be > > capable > > > of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the > > mind > > > -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE > > is > > > handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user > > > cannot configure something when it is simplified > > down > > > to that level. > > > > > > So on the one hand you think that for the sake of > > the morons FreeBSD should > > made into something other than "a CLI OS" (which if > > you put KDE or GNOME on > > it it already is, btw), and on the other hand you > > despise the morons who > > can't even use a wizard? > > I never inferred that FBSD should evolve into > anything. It performs quite nicely as a CLI. It also performs quite nicely as a GUI, in the opinion of many. Printing > is not all that great, and the use of many devices > such as web cams can prove to be a chore to install, > but that has more to due with the creators of those > devices and lack thereof of proper drivers, etc. Even > devices that do work are not always fully supported. > Again, most likely the device creators are not > supporting the device under FreeBSD, or any other OS > except win32. Again, it is all about monetary return. > I cannot blame them, I like to eat too. > > Furthermore, I never said I despise anyone, except > perhaps pseudo technical help employees. However, even > they have to eat. I stated that it was a sad day when > someone could not ever configure OE, even when > assisted with a wizard. I think it is rather obvious > that these individuals would not be the target market > for FBSD. > > > > The average user > > > > > does not care about configuring firewall, AV > > or > > > > > Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with > > > > perhaps > > > > > Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's one statement contradicting the other. > > > > > > How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run > > > them and case closed. Neither one requires any > > > significant configuration. The defaults work just > > fine > > > for most users. You could eliminate the Counter > > Spy > > > since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, > > but > > > I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. > > > > > > A decent router does not "require any significant > > configuration" either, > > despite the fact that it should include a firewall. > > And if you use a > > router/firewall, you shouldn't need to configure a > > firewall on your > > desktop/server either. > > The key word here is 'significant'. That varies by > user to user. I believe that the use of an internal > firewall might very well be dictated by a users LAN > configuration. I only have four units networked > together, with only one avenue to the Internet, so > perhaps I don't need an extensive internal firewall. I would suggest that anyone with more than one computer definitely have a firewall-enabled router. In fact, that would be my preference in all cases because then you don't run into needless "only compatible with Windows and MacOS" issues. However, I am sure that many users do. In any case, a > router is not an AV/SpyWare detection and elimination > program. FreeBSD isn't known as a haven for viruses and spyware. > BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care' > > program > > > suite, that might even obsolete that entire > > process. I > > > don't think they will offer it with the OS though. > > Too > > > much of a chance the government will protest. > > > Personally I believe a company should be allowed > > to > > > market its product anyway it wants without > > government > > > intervention; however, that is entirely another > > story. > > > > > > > > > That's a good idea. And I should be able to procure > > products and settle > > scores anyway I want without government > > intervention, too. > > Way out of line. Not out of line. Thee are many, many examples of companies already getting away with breaking the few rules that are there: why should those rules be relaxed so that they get away with even MORE at the expense of the buyer? No where did I even suggest the idea > of retribution. Nor did I, as I noted, that was sarcasm. I assume that is what you are > referring to by "settle scores". I believe that within > a few carefully crafted guidelines perhaps, a > developer should be free to create and offer for sale, > distribution, give it away free for all I car > (FreeBSD) any item that they so desire. Let the market > decide whether or not the item if of any value. > Furthermore, I never mentioned 'procure' in my > statement. That is your own concoction. I am dead set > fascism, socialism or any other type of 'ism' you want > to infer when it comes to the freedom of creating and > marketing. Obviously, with a few carefully crafted > regulation; i.e., say of prescription drugs, > explosives -- things like that. I don't want to get > involved with basic economy 101 here however. > > -- Jeff Rollin -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 19:21:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD2D16A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3225743D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:21:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout12/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86JLqb3023894 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (cpe-065-191-021-225.nc.res.rr.com [65.191.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86JLmFQ024612 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: From: g Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:21:47 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAwAAA+kAAAPqAAAD7g== X-Language-Identified: TRUE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:21:53 -0000 i'm trying to install xorg. using chapter 5, i installed Xorg, but it seems to break something. with the default install of 6.1, x window system starts. when i follow the instructions, in chapter 5, i get this message when i tried to start it (startx). This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.99.903 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD beverly.Belkin 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0 : Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/ usr/src/sys/S MP i386 Build Date: 16 March 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Sep 6 01:56:19 2006 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf Undefined Monitor "Monitor0" referenced by Screen "Screen0". (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. ************************************************************************ ****************************************** my goal is to run to window maker, with gnustep as a development environment. ************************************************************************ ****************************************** below is the xorg.conf.new file Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "PrecisionColor" VendorName "Radius" ModelName "Sony" HorizSync 50-150 VertRefresh 30-85 EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "ColorKey" # #Option "CacheLines" # #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "DRI" # [] #Option "NoDDC" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # #Option "PageFlip" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Intel Corporation" BoardName "82865G Integrated Graphics Controller" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection ************************************************************************ ******************************************* thanks, g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 19:32:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186B616A4E2 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5080143D6E for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:31:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i21so979985wra for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:31:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gSwQR7Mh/Cis6PA7NfjvehQNYRioH359Tkr3H16ibf4WjuG/Qz+/A9Pqjn/sS6atpTBSiSHG/sAJsLXDDrijDK7u1ng+EIfN7wGlpCB0Va1/U/zySNYpmYuSMokFKx7bsqYtK8+HW554Mn3RlZgmREgMCNdEYIF820P7LEDuRQs= Received: by 10.90.25.9 with SMTP id 9mr2452024agy; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609061231n7a62aaeak827557131b53805d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:31:56 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "FreeBSD Users Questions" In-Reply-To: <20060906185449.41020.qmail@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060906185449.41020.qmail@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:32:15 -0000 On 06/09/06, White Hat wrote: > > --- Freminlins wrote: > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Immaterial. the singularly most important feature > > is > > > suitability to task. If it is free and it does not > > > work, what good is it? > > > > It depends what you are using it for. You made a > > comment about "occaisonal > > word processing" (pasted below). For such use > > OpenOffice is perfectly good > > enough. > > That is a totally unqualified evaluation. While it may > be totally suitable for one individual, that in no way > infers that it meets the requirements of another. > There is no way you can define an end users > requirements based solely on your own usage. It's not an unqualified evaluation. If OpenOffice were not good enough for even "occasional word processing," then certainly no-one would be using it on a regular basis. > > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. > > > > In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack. > > You are kidding right. I can find vastly more > documentation available for a win32 machine than for > FBSD. In fact, the lact of documentation is one of the > reasons that support groups like this evolved. To my > great dismay, I am forced to search for and then > download documentation via the web. Even then, that is > often dated. Not anyones fault, it is just the way it > goes. YOU are kidding, right? "More" does not mean better. If the FreeBSD documentation is fit for purpose, then there is little point in reiterating it all over the net. If the Windows documentation were fit for purpose, (and the only official documentation I can think of is the Windows Help Files, which are rightly derided all the net over as "The Windows NoHelp files" and suchlike - in other words, fit for purpose it definitely is not), there would be no need for support lines to PC companies and such - and yet the MS Knowledgebase is gigantic. Not only that, but those helplines are often clueless. > > The same lack of documentation > > > plagues every facet of software today. > > > > No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented. > > It is above average, I will agree. However, if it were > really perfect then this forum would not exist. > > > > > However, you have made my point. > > > > No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You > > said " A very large > > majority of users simply want to use their PCs for > > email, occasional word > > processing and possible game playing." I am saying > > that using XP as you > > suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very > > large number of people. > > If that were true, MS would not rule 90+ percent of > the PCs in use today. MS rules 90 percent of PCs in use today because (a) it is preloaded on 90% of PCs in use today, (b) PC companies are tied to Microsoft for many reasons, hardly any of which have to do with the quality of its OS products; (c) because of (a) and (b), more companies release software for Windows than any other OS. Why do you think users in third > rate countries pirate MS when they could get FBSD for > free? Because (a) they don't know about alternatives, and/or (b) the software they want (e.g. games) is not available for those other OSes. And if you really think that no-one in the West pirates Windows software, then you are not living on the same planet as the rest of us. I would not want to insult anyone; ...it may be a little late for that... however, if > you cannot install an MS operating system then perhaps > you should consider another hobby. Even my wife's > sister can handle that project, and that is a woman > who considers a can opener a high tech device. Installing an MS operating system on hardware for which the OS has inbuilt drivers is easy. Changing the configuration, even to the point of loading drivers and software which the OS does not include, can be considerably harder and in some cases (such as adding it to th disk after the other OS) is a job best suited to computer engineers, UNLIKE doing that with other OSes. > > > If a user cannot > > > decipher how to configure a simple thing like > > Outlook > > > Express, and there are programs available that > > will do > > > it for them, then how are they suppose to be > > capable > > > of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? Once again, FreeBSD is not "a CLI OS". It boggles the > > mind > > > -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE > > is > > > handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user > > > cannot configure something when it is simplified > > down > > > to that level. > > > > It's not so much the wizards, but third party > > applications like virus > > scanners which change those settings which is a part > > of the problem. But you > > are not quite comparing apples with apples. > > Configuring Thunderbird on > > FreeBSD is near enough identical to doing the same > > on Windows. I wouldn't > > however expect a complete computer novice to be able > > to set up a FreeBSD box > > without some help. I wouldn't expect a complete novice to be able to set up just any Windows box either. Even one that doesn't think a can opener is complicated. You have users here with 10+ years experience who run > int problems. It is just the nature of the beast. It > comes with the territory. And Windows is, of course, "problemlos" as the Germans would say. Except, not. > How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run > > > them and case closed. Neither one requires any > > > significant configuration. The defaults work just > > fine > > > for most users. You could eliminate the Counter > > Spy > > > since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, > > but > > > I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. > > > > > > Your statement is simply wrong. AV and anti-spyware > > DO require > > configuration. And they do require installing, and > > maybe downloading, and > > being kept up to date. The defaults certainly don't > > work all the time in all > > cases. Have a look here: " > > Obviously it required installation. Before you can > install, it is again obvious that you must secure the > item. One size definitely does not fit all. What is > your point? > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/06/faulty_ca_update/". > > I have heard of > > broken installations for Norton numerous times. And > > trying to help these > > customers is time-consuming for our techies. > > Norton is pathetic, that I will agree with you on that > one. That is why I switched three years ago to ZA. It > has never given me a moment of trouble, although the > CA AV it uses by default is not RFC 2595 compliant > which was causing my network problems. One I corrected > it though, everything was back to normal. > > BTW, 'time consuming for your techies'? Ah gee, like > what are they paid for? To stand around and kiss each > others butt. I am sick of over paid techies who have > no working knowledge of what they are doing. Perhaps you should encourage them to use an operating system which encourages one to know what one is doing. If they > find their job to stressful, quit! > > Please do me one favor, do not CC me. I am continually > getting two copies of these. I subscribe to the list. > I don't send you duplicate copies and therefore would > appreciate the same cutesy. Perhaps my address was > already inserted by a previous poster. If so, please > do remove it. > > Thank You! > > > -- > > White Hat > pigskin_referee@yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 19:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6040D16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53EC43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:47:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1GL3MW0SI9-0004W4; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:47:04 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:52:51 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: dick hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> Message-ID: <20060906215014.W1218@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: fbsdq Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:47:06 -0000 On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: > I have a 3-part disk: > (a) XP for games > (b) FreeBSD-6.1 (my main OS) > (c) FreeBSD-6.1 (a backup) > > I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for > studying this OS. I burned the DVD. Will it install solaris on this > third partition without trouble? Will I be able to continue to use the > FreeBSD bootloader or do I need to isntall sol's grub? > > The documentation on SUN and solaris is huge. Many many pdf files.. > Are there better ways then these pdf's? Good books on solaris 10? > Starting points on the net? I ask here because I know lot of you guys > here have also installed solaris 10 (at least I remember seeing it here) > > Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of experience > with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. Just out of interest: Did you install Solaris in the meantime? ;-) Regards, Uli. > > -- > dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE > ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 ++ The Power to Serve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 19:59:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9268916A4DD for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2967443D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from presario.homeunix.org (dyn-pupin-171-80.dyn.columbia.edu [128.59.171.80]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k86JxDdb000232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:59:18 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060906215014.W1218@www.pukruppa.net> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:58:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20060906215014.W1218@www.pukruppa.net> (P. U. Kruppa's message of "Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:52:51 +0200 (CEST)") Message-ID: <86u03kwyvd.fsf@presario.homeunix.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.8 Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:59:19 -0000 "P.U.Kruppa" writes: > On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: > >> I have a 3-part disk: >> (a) XP for games >> (b) FreeBSD-6.1 (my main OS) >> (c) FreeBSD-6.1 (a backup) >> >> I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for >> studying this OS. I burned the DVD. Will it install solaris on this >> third partition without trouble? Will I be able to continue to use the >> FreeBSD bootloader or do I need to isntall sol's grub? >> >> The documentation on SUN and solaris is huge. Many many pdf files.. >> Are there better ways then these pdf's? Good books on solaris 10? >> Starting points on the net? I ask here because I know lot of you guys >> here have also installed solaris 10 (at least I remember seeing it here) >> >> Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of experience >> with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. > Just out of interest: Did you install Solaris in the meantime? > ;-) To me, device drivers really troubled me a lot. Windows for games is okay. But Solaris doesn't work well either in my laptop or my desktop. FreeBSD is only happy with my laptop, which now I work on. So I install Linux in my desktop, which is my main OS. LVM2 on top of raid works perfectly. And I like the portage system in Gentoo, which resembles FreeBSD's ports system. Sorry for this OT, but I really think Solaris is not ready yet for my crapy hardware. Xiao-Yong -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 19:59:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E3216A4E1 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: from web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 332AF43D5C for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:59:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 69702 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2006 19:59:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=02fauYXxy9qQHxoWBWuall25yt/r1gfuiOFk7CtFC+yeff3TuY9pkhggHoD66iMYNCONpHJL2x82EOZ4Iz9F+fRrWEWkER984E5B/tYpVYguNkQMldTPLLTuGQqVND/xVwcZcumTDCJQithRhE6x7Y+8JggpZEglrmorC95sRnE= ; Message-ID: <20060906195937.69700.qmail@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.189.184.224] by web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:59:37 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: White Hat To: FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: <8a0028260609061214s2379914naf1af41b9d9b39ff@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:59:41 -0000 --- Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 06/09/06, White Hat > wrote: > > > > --- Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Freminlins wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > > > > > > > wrote: [...] > > > > Immaterial. the singularly most important > > > > feature is suitability to task. If it is free > > > > > and it does not work, what good is it? > > > > > > In what way does it "not work"? It's enough for > > > many people, so why should they pay more? > > > > I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply > > said that it was not suitable for the tasks that > > both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. > > > No, you said "it does not work." It's up there in > black and white. > > Again, the price The inference was if the object is not suitable for a designated task, then it is not a viable option. Hence, it doesn't work. I had thought that was obvious. The inference was certainly there. I did not spell it out since this is a forum and I had no inclination to turn this into a thesis. However, it is also obvious that price is your determining factor. Nothing wrong with that as long as it is declared up front. [...] > > > That's a good idea. And I should be able to > procure > > > products and settle > > > scores anyway I want without government > > > intervention, too. > > > > Way out of line. > > > Not out of line. Thee are many, many examples of > companies already getting away with breaking the few > rules that are there: why should those rules be > relaxed so that they get away with even MORE at the > expense of the buyer? > > No where did I even suggest the idea of retribution. > > > Nor did I, as I noted, that was sarcasm. Labeling it as sarcasm does not change the fact that it was exactly what you meant. If I wear a T-shirt that has emblazoned on it: "touch me an I will kill you", and someone actually touched me and I make good on the treat, I cannot claim that they were forewarned. By the way, what bothers you so much regarding free enterprise, with the possible exception that you are not experiencing any monetary rewards from it? I personally I detest what many corporations proceed to do. However, it is their money and they have that right. If you don't like their product, either ignore it or make a better one. Bitching is for losers. -- White Hat pigskin_referee@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 20:02:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4327916A4E0 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C8C43D70 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:02:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k86K2QeP036051 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:02:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k86K2PXX036050 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:02:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:02:25 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: How to fix init -> /etc/ttys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:02:30 -0000 Anybody know why getty is having such a bear of a time finding a tty? I Can't even get in. I'm at 6.1 and logged in single-usr and have /usr mounted on /dev. Because X expects to find /usr/lib/Y in /usr I csn't use anything very complex; can't poke around.... I very rarely touch /etc/ttys; so why is 6.1 having this tantrum?? I'm lost .... gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 20:06:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D887C16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihilt@mcgregor-surmount.com) Received: from mcgregor-surmount.com (mail.mcgregor-surmount.com [70.61.40.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE9B43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:06:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ihilt@mcgregor-surmount.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:06:39 -0400 Message-ID: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C2@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> In-Reply-To: <91AFEF09-05EE-41BE-846F-665FBE64EE06@mac.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Origin of hard drive parameters Thread-Index: AcbR5gIlRpdtWooPS820elxUZ4PaQAABQ2BQ From: "Hilt, Ian" To: "Chuck Swiger" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Origin of hard drive parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:06:44 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:55 PM > To: Hilt, Ian > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters >=20 > On Sep 6, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Hilt, Ian wrote: > > Basically, I want to know where the BIOS gets the hard drive =20 > > parameters > > when the Drive Type is set to "AUTO" in the BIOS=20 > configuration. The =20 > > best > > I've been able to come up with from the internet is an "IDENTIFY" > > command that purportedly > > () gets its > > information from the "IDE controller". This does not answer my =20 > > question > > completely. Are the parameters returned by the controller hard coded > > into a chip on the board or are they on the platters of the hard =20 > > drive, > > or neither? >=20 > "Neither" is probably the best answer. >=20 > The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA =20 > "IDENTIFY DEVICE" command with the hard drive parameters used by the =20 > BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode =20 > rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, where are these parameters stored? =20 > Note that the answer the drive controller gives will normally be a =20 > fabricated geometry which does not have anything to do with the =20 > actual geometry of the physical device, in part because drives =20 > nowadays keep a variable number of sectors per track rather than =20 > using a CAV layout. >=20 If CAV =3D=3D Constant Angular Velocity, I thought this layout stored a variable number of sectors per track, as opposed to CLV which stores data at a constant density over the platters. Ian Graeme Hilt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 20:09:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F75A16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F319643D45 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:09:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2765063wxd for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZGpO3gTbZZQCEORU52+TtEEfRjBinulaBlyWjoeNvf+EXQxqGyBW5Q9gyg/DJ3ao99Df38D7iSY0Qnsl1+JvgX95nARVnf5BkvsgmJusWfWPT4Bx4TS70OD7JgoJ5cZYJimUFnrMC4Eyvzm4DKsQ8kDN/AL8UIiHGCFC843E5bs= Received: by 10.90.54.4 with SMTP id c4mr2473952aga; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609061309i57066782g74ca063e17b27ca2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:09:43 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "White Hat" In-Reply-To: <20060906195937.69700.qmail@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260609061214s2379914naf1af41b9d9b39ff@mail.gmail.com> <20060906195937.69700.qmail@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:09:44 -0000 On 06/09/06, White Hat wrote: > > --- Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > wrote: > > > > > > --- Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > > > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- Freminlins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > Immaterial. the singularly most important > > > > > feature is suitability to task. If it is free > > > > > > and it does not work, what good is it? > > > > > > > > In what way does it "not work"? It's enough for > > > > many people, so why should they pay more? > > > > > > I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply > > > said that it was not suitable for the tasks that > > > both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. > > > > > > No, you said "it does not work." It's up there in > > black and white. > > > > Again, the price > > The inference was if the object is not suitable for a > designated task, then it is not a viable option. > Hence, it doesn't work. I had thought that was > obvious. The inference was certainly there. I did not > spell it out since this is a forum and I had no > inclination to turn this into a thesis. However, it is > also obvious that price is your determining factor. > Nothing wrong with that as long as it is declared up > front. There was no such inference. [...] > > > > > That's a good idea. And I should be able to > > procure > > > > products and settle > > > > scores anyway I want without government > > > > intervention, too. > > > > > > Way out of line. > > > > > > Not out of line. Thee are many, many examples of > > companies already getting away with breaking the few > > rules that are there: why should those rules be > > relaxed so that they get away with even MORE at the > > expense of the buyer? > > > > No where did I even suggest the idea of retribution. > > > > > > Nor did I, as I noted, that was sarcasm. > > Labeling it as sarcasm does not change the fact that > it was exactly what you meant. I think I'm much more qualified than you to decide what I meant. If I wear a T-shirt > that has emblazoned on it: "touch me an I will kill > you", and someone actually touched me and I make good > on the treat, I cannot claim that they were > forewarned. By the way, what bothers you so much > regarding free enterprise, with the possible exception > that you are not experiencing any monetary rewards > from it? Free enterprise does not bother me. Lies and illegal practices do. I > personally I detest what many corporations proceed to > do. However, it is their money and they have that > right. If you don't like their product, either ignore > it or make a better one. They do not have the right to break the law Bitching is for losers Funny you should say that, given your contributions to this thread. Jeff Rollin -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 20:20:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C784D16A4DE for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA8D43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:20:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout14/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86KKiQc021861; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k86KKePF013234; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:20:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C2@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> References: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C2@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <945DB39F-ECC9-4872-9F5D-EC45BCD439CE@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 13:20:39 -0700 To: "Hilt, Ian" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:20:44 -0000 On Sep 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Hilt, Ian wrote: >> The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA >> "IDENTIFY DEVICE" command with the hard drive parameters used by the >> BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode >> rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. > > Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, > where are these parameters stored? At one time, probably on an EEPROM within the hard drive; nowadays, probably nowhere-- the drive controller computes some numbers dynamically depending on whether the C/H/S versus LBA mode jumper is set, or whether the BIOS makes the extended Int13H call to do LBA mode (or whatever the exact mechanism there is).... >> Note that the answer the drive controller gives will normally be a >> fabricated geometry which does not have anything to do with the >> actual geometry of the physical device, in part because drives >> nowadays keep a variable number of sectors per track rather than >> using a CAV layout. > > If CAV == Constant Angular Velocity, I thought this layout stored a > variable number of sectors per track, as opposed to CLV which stores > data at a constant density over the platters. CAV == Constant Angular Velocity. It's the format used by data CD's which gives less storage space but better random access-- tracks near the center have the same # of sectors as tracks on the outside, which means the outer tracks are spread out more; versus CLV, which stores more data on the outer tracks by slowing down the rotational speed to keep a constant density under the heads. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 20:35:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0826B16A4E2 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihilt@mcgregor-surmount.com) Received: from mcgregor-surmount.com (mail.mcgregor-surmount.com [70.61.40.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0660843D67 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:35:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ihilt@mcgregor-surmount.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:35:33 -0400 Message-ID: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C3@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> In-Reply-To: <945DB39F-ECC9-4872-9F5D-EC45BCD439CE@mac.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Origin of hard drive parameters Thread-Index: AcbR8e/rhoMIk2lHSOyUYAAgvyC6nQAAVjvg From: "Hilt, Ian" To: "Chuck Swiger" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Origin of hard drive parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:35:35 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:21 PM > To: Hilt, Ian > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters >=20 > On Sep 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Hilt, Ian wrote: > >> The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA > >> "IDENTIFY DEVICE" command with the hard drive parameters=20 > used by the > >> BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode > >> rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. > > > > Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, > > where are these parameters stored? >=20 > At one time, probably on an EEPROM within the hard drive; nowadays, =20 > probably nowhere-- the drive controller computes some numbers =20 > dynamically depending on whether the C/H/S versus LBA mode jumper is =20 > set, or whether the BIOS makes the extended Int13H call to do LBA =20 > mode (or whatever the exact mechanism there is).... >=20 > >> Note that the answer the drive controller gives will normally be a > >> fabricated geometry which does not have anything to do with the > >> actual geometry of the physical device, in part because drives > >> nowadays keep a variable number of sectors per track rather than > >> using a CAV layout. > > > > If CAV =3D=3D Constant Angular Velocity, I thought this layout = stored a > > variable number of sectors per track, as opposed to CLV which stores > > data at a constant density over the platters. >=20 > CAV =3D=3D Constant Angular Velocity. It's the format used by data = CD's =20 > which gives less storage space but better random access--=20 > tracks near =20 > the center have the same # of sectors as tracks on the=20 > outside, which =20 > means the outer tracks are spread out more; versus CLV, which stores =20 > more data on the outer tracks by slowing down the rotational=20 > speed to =20 > keep a constant density under the heads. >=20 > --=20 > -Chuck >=20 >=20 Thanks for the information, Chuck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 20:48:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479FD16A4DA for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED3943D6D for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:48:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k86KmA7E065038; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:48:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k86KmA7E065038 Message-ID: <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:48:04 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3DD6E4C6522D70A35CE339C6" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:48:31 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1815/Wed Sep 6 16:42:27 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to fix init -> /etc/ttys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:48:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3DD6E4C6522D70A35CE339C6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Kline wrote: > Anybody know why getty is having such a bear of a time finding > a tty? I Can't even get in. I'm at 6.1 and logged in=20 > single-usr and have /usr mounted on /dev. Because X expects > to find /usr/lib/Y in /usr I csn't use anything very complex; > can't poke around.... >=20 > I very rarely touch /etc/ttys; so why is 6.1 having this=20 > tantrum?? I'm lost .... Because getty needs access to the /dev/tty* devices in order to function?= /dev is a truly bizarre choice of mountpoint. Why not use /mnt, which i= s there solely to provide a convenient place to mount stuff? Or -- and thi= s is a radical idea, I know -- why not mount the /usr filesystem on /usr? 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Any ideas on how to accomplish this? I have been looking at various shell lists in ports but nothing popped out as obvious to me Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 21:00:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9322016A4F8; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from shodan.nognu.de (shodan.nognu.de [85.14.216.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C09743D6E; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:00:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by shodan.nognu.de (Postfix, from userid 1002) id C2428B82C; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:00:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:00:21 +0200 From: Frank Steinborn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Message-Id: <20060906210021.C2428B82C@shodan.nognu.de> Cc: Subject: Getting GELI Keys from Floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:00:37 -0000 Hello, i want to encrypt my HDD's with GELI (not the root-fs, though). I want to do the encryption without password, just with a key. The key should be stored in a floppy disk, and the read should be read automatically on boot, from the floppy. There is a problem here, because GELI initializes _before_ mounting the disks from /etc/fstab (for obvious reasons, of course). So GELI is not able to get the keys from the floppy and fails. So, any hints how I could get the floppy mounted _before_ GELI tries to initialize? Thanks in advance, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 21:30:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B099816A4E6 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A6A43D69 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:30:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.nl with local; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:30:40 +0200 id 00039837.44FF3E00.0000622B Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:30:40 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060906213040.GA25010@lothlorien.nagual.nl> References: <20060903223518.f92a2112.dick@nagual.nl> <20060906215014.W1218@www.pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060906215014.W1218@www.pukruppa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:30:44 -0000 On 06 Sep P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: > >I want to replace the third partition with solaris 10, mainly for > >studying this OS. > >Hope to get some advice and reading points. I have years of experience > >with linux and FreeBSD and like to explore new (OS) challences. > Just out of interest: Did you install Solaris in the meantime? > ;-) I did. After a good deal of reading. I wanted it to install on the first disk. I had no spare one and as I understood it should be possible without harm. The solaris fdisk partition had to be taken seriously. It needed a "special treatement" to not interfere with existing partitions. The ranish PM took care of the solaris disk geometry problems ;-) The installation on the third fdisk partition went very well, I must say. The system reckognised almost every peace of hardware and configured it correctly. I had to get third party network card driver support, but that was easy too. First impressions are very good. But the learning curve starts now. For now I'm glad to be back in my fbsd OS. It feels so very known ;-) And that of course is always a good feeling. But that will not stop me from exploring the unknown solaris system ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 21:47:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFE616A4E2 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout07-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB8E743D62 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:47:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 15604 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2006 21:47:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.146.217.210) by smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.233) with ESMTP; 06 Sep 2006 21:47:35 -0000 In-Reply-To: <0B52EB48-687D-4330-8B5A-54DBAEA305D5@shire.net> References: <0B52EB48-687D-4330-8B5A-54DBAEA305D5@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <171B9B61-2D73-4697-84F4-9CAB4D1BA43A@hackmiester.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:47:27 -0500 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: need a restricted shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:47:42 -0000 On 6 September 2006, at 15:55, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > I am looking for a shell that will allow Subversion to be run over > ssh but not allow interactive login or if it allows interactive > login, will only allow Subversion commands to be run... Any ideas > on how to accomplish this? I don't know about FBSD, but check if rssh is in the ports (I can't atm): [hackmiester@rxvt ~]$ pacman -Ss scp current/rssh 2.3.2-1 A restricted shell for use with OpenSSH, allowing only scp and/ or sftp I bet this would do what you're saying. > > I have been looking at various shell lists in ports but nothing > popped out as obvious to me > > Thanks > Chad > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 22:34:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FCB16A4E1 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C66343D5A for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:32:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.137] (helo=anti-virus01-08) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GL5wt-0005sO-02 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:32:47 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GL5ws-0004Ks-7t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:32:46 +0100 Message-ID: <44FF4C89.6070704@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:32:41 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060905035751.16474.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com> <44FDE33E.10906@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <20060905174924.60F5.GERARD@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20060905174924.60F5.GERARD@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Various package/ports problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:34:34 -0000 Gerard Seibert wrote: > Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >> Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: >> >>> So now i can find out what version each port is, but that doesnt >>> help me know whether these are outdated, or to update them. >>> For that im still stuck on the Ruby core dump problem. I did >>> reinstall portupgrade, ruby18, and the ruby-bdb thing, but sadly >>> i still get the same abort trap/core dump thing ive reported all >>> along. Is there any other way i can attack this last issue? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Jen >> Have you tried portmanager (sysutils/portmanager)? The -s option just >> reports on what's required to upgrade. > > Assuming you have a freshly updated ports tree, you could also just run > this little command: > > /usr/sbin/pkg_version -vIL= > > It will display what needs to be updated very quickly. I think that > 'portmanager' would be the best way to update the ports however. > > Very useful and quick, but man pkg_version says the -I interrogates the INDEX file which in this case (I've lost previous posts) was corrupted or out of sync with the ports tree? In this case portmanager -s might give more accurate results even if it is a bit slow. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 22:46:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BAA16A4F1 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8362F43DB3 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.10] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k86MjuP0016852 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:45:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <44FF4F7F.6030800@enabled.com> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:45:19 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: rc.firewall rule for passive FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:46:13 -0000 what is a good rule to allow passive FTP to work. the following rules still blocks passive FTP. #/** Allow setup of FTP PASSIVE **/ ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from any to ${ip} 49152-65534 setup From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 6 23:54:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A7116A516 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CF543D55 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:54:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=a3fiFur8oeQcBD/dJMbZ6BMqMsiCVQpZszhVocJsULUsQXGDpHfBiW2XlFoOjJEo; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.130.69] (helo=Wednesday) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GL7E6-0007HM-KP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:54:39 -0400 Message-ID: <034201c6d20f$d044a5a0$0225a8c0@Wednesday> From: "jdow" To: References: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C2@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> <945DB39F-ECC9-4872-9F5D-EC45BCD439CE@mac.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:54:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120ae6b07d9759971b3c04c3dfc0ef35fe8c8c3b81bc17e679e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.130.69 Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:54:46 -0000 From: "Chuck Swiger" > On Sep 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Hilt, Ian wrote: >>> The hard disk has an on-board controller which answers the ATA >>> "IDENTIFY DEVICE" command with the hard drive parameters used by the >>> BIOS, assuming that the BIOS is operating in the legacy C/H/S mode >>> rather than the newer LBA mode which uses absolute block numbers. >> >> Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, >> where are these parameters stored? > > At one time, probably on an EEPROM within the hard drive; nowadays, > probably nowhere-- the drive controller computes some numbers > dynamically depending on whether the C/H/S versus LBA mode jumper is > set, or whether the BIOS makes the extended Int13H call to do LBA > mode (or whatever the exact mechanism there is).... They flat out are not stored anywhere. There is a standard algorithm published by the VESA people, I believe, that provides the data for all SCSI drives and modern IDE/ATA/SATA drives. Inside the drives only one number is normally of interest to the computer operating system, the total number of available blocks on the drive per its current formatting. Spare blocks and cylinders, variable numbers of blocks per track, and various oddball formattings that at LEAST go back as far as the old 20 meg Miniscribe SCSI drives make any CHS that a drive could deliver meaningless. (That old Miniscribe had spares at the end of a cylinder that were to be applied anywhere within the cylinder. Thus there was no constant blocks per track within a cylinder. It had spare tracks scattered around the drive so that you could recover if a whole track was scratched. And so forth. I struggled for some (wasted) time trying to find an optimal CHS geometry I could feed the operating system (Amiga at the time) to speed up disk accesses. That old thing was impervious to optimization. Ever since I've strongly advised people to ignore CHS entirely unless they have a real live ESDI or ST-506 drive in their possession. I suppose it might matter for IDE drives nearly that old. But anything likely to be alive today has CHS as a pure fiction that is not all that particularly useful even at the filesystem optimization levels.) {^_^} Joanne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 00:01:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC0216A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAF443D46 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:01:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k8701gVb036882; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k8701fhX036881; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:01:41 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20060907000141.GA36761@thought.org> References: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to fix init -> /etc/ttys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:01:47 -0000 On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:48:04PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > Anybody know why getty is having such a bear of a time finding > > a tty? I Can't even get in. I'm at 6.1 and logged in > > single-usr and have /usr mounted on /dev. Because X expects > > to find /usr/lib/Y in /usr I csn't use anything very complex; > > can't poke around.... > > > > I very rarely touch /etc/ttys; so why is 6.1 having this > > tantrum?? I'm lost .... > > Because getty needs access to the /dev/tty* devices in order to function? > > /dev is a truly bizarre choice of mountpoint. Why not use /mnt, which is > there solely to provide a convenient place to mount stuff? Or -- and this > is a radical idea, I know -- why not mount the /usr filesystem on /usr? > WEll, it turns out that my old /etc/fstab was overwritten by my backup, and I had added a /var slice this time. (The drive is only a couple years old (200G), the box is 61 months old (was homebrew) and I cheaped out with a 40G). Yes, I did wind up fsck'ing everything and mounting /usr on /usr:: then major progress, thank you. Remaining mystery is those "acpi: write failure on 0x70" or whatever. I googled around, and now that I have *grep-powers* I've grep'd in /boot and have some clues. If you have spot-on advise, Matthew, please do share. Anyway, this is to the entire list: A week or so ago I loaned my 5.3 set to a non-geek friend who had occasionally been using RH. He brought the box of discs back and said it was too hard to install; that RH had a much easier installation process. True. So I gave him my old Ubuntu boot disk. He's happy with it. ---I realize how much smaller the FBSD hacker base is.... Still, having a GUI-ish intro makes sense in gaining new converts. I'm still here because this Berkeley distro really *is* solid. One fatal trap in 11 years I can handle. < SOAPBOX> gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 00:05:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6E816A4E5 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C6143D46 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:05:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k87053XD024667 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:05:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:05:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609061905.02930.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:05:04 -0000 On Wednesday 06 September 2006 13:16, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 9/6/06, Jonathan Horne wrote: > > is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build server? > > or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built from the same > > machine? > > buildworld and buildkernel targets are > fairly sophisticated. > > The /usr/obj tree corresponds to the source > directory, so if you have your 5.5 sources in > /src/5.5 > and your 6.1 sources in > /src/6.1 (or /usr/src/6.1 for that matter) > > the world(s) would be built in > /usr/obj/src/5.5/ and /usr/obj/src/6.1/ > repsectively. (Or /usr/obj/usr/src/6.1) > > If the purpose is to buildworld on one > fast machine and then export it to slower > machines on th' network, this works > admirably well. thank you!! this was the exact hint i was hoping for! cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 00:13:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D995C16A585 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FBB43D5E for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:13:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so33321pye for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:13:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R4dQpKshtx7JFSihqnzOHHTcLapdVA81AqdoNfj3TAF0aofvzvKyK65s8XFHQy0q698SJaRrwJrhVpJ1a1A2+fJyfYMcGwOlWCUJYD4aedH7H1pe5d0Zm7fWVuTtyxYXKyTXVY5lq578LugtevvqcWLttNQ55kKBYWoaH9E8Ma0= Received: by 10.35.63.2 with SMTP id q2mr110650pyk; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.44.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <340a29540609061713m78f85d8bu549e84c6fecb37a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:13:36 -0600 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "=?KOI8-R?B?88XSx8XKIPPPwsvP?=" , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <200609042233.24740.bug2bug@bug2bug.tk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200609042233.24740.bug2bug@bug2bug.tk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: A question about programming RS-232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:13:47 -0000 I am by no means the worlds best serial programmer, but recently I have done some work on this subject and I noticed one thing in the code sample above that should be avoided. However, I'll give you what I saw in-line: #include > #include > #include > #include > > int main(void) { > int t = 0, num = 10, fd, iOut; char *ch; > struct termios my_termios; > ch = (char *)malloc(6); > memset(ch, 250, 6); > fd = open("/dev/cuad0", O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK); Ok, great, we've opened our serial device. Unless you need this to be a controlling terminal, you should open with open( "/dev/cuad0", O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK | O_NOCTTY ); Check with the open man page to make sure I've given you the correct constant for opening as a non-controlling terminal. printf("Opened com port\n"); > if(fd < 0) return 0; > // tcflush(fd, TCIFLUSH); > my_termios.c_cflag = CS8 | CLOCAL; > if(cfsetspeed(&my_termios, B9600) < 0) return 0; > if(tcsetattr(fd, TCSANOW, &my_termios) < 0) return 0; You've set the attributes you want to use in the structure you defined, my_termios. However, you should call tcgetattr() before changing what you want to change (and make sure you always turn things on as you have done above with bitwise or). So, your code should look something like, // assume an open file descriptor named fd struct termios my_termios; if( tcgetattr( fd, &my_termios ) < 0 ) { fprintf( stderr, "error in getting termios properties\n" ); return AN_ERROR; } // turn on what you want my_termios.c_cflag = CS8 | CLOCAL; if( tcsetattr( fd, &my_termios ) < 0 } { fprintf( stderr, "error in setting new properties to serial port\n" ); return AN_ERROR; } I don't know if this will solve your problems but I do know I read that you should always get the current settings because the serial driver may use certain bits and you don't want to turn them off. Also, if you're going to return the port settings to the state before you took hold of it, make two termios structures and stuff the original settings away to be restored upon exit or close of the port. Lastly, here is a link to a serial programming guide that I found quite helpful. The info is probably dated to some degree, but it is non the less useful. http://www.easysw.com/~mike/serial/serial.html Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 00:55:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1496416A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E59A43D7F for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:55:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (25@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k870t4NJ088893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k870oZEp087432 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA29499; Wed, 6 Sep 06 17:37:36 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Sep 06 17:37:36 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OpenOffice port vs Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:55:28 -0000 Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' aborting... Abort trap (core dumped) Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort of problem. Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single system? How is it accomplished? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 01:08:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314D616A50A for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476D843DA1 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:08:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (monrovll-cuda1-24-53-251-44.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.53.251.44]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:08:33 -0400 id 0005641E.44FF7111.00005249 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:08:31 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <20060906210831.f86ce289.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> References: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice port vs Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:08:42 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) wrote: > Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now > several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered > that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: > > GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' > aborting... > Abort trap (core dumped) > > Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About > to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is > firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 > > I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT > the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point > of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort > of problem. > > Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single > system? How is it accomplished? Yes. I have three computers (home, work, laptop). All three of them have both Firefox and OOo installed. I would suspect that you've hit some obscure version issue. I make it a point to try to keep all three of these machines updated, so I'm portupgrading them on a regular basis. I seem to remember one point at which I rebuilt OOo and had to rebuild firefox to get it working, but I don't remember for sure. -- Bill Moran Someting happened or something. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 01:22:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B9716A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh7@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EED343D70 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:22:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mdh7@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-4.245.79.87.dial1.stlouis1.level3.net ([4.245.79.87] helo=logcabin.hem.com) by pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GL8ay-0007Ws-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:22:21 -0400 Received: from logcabin.hem.com (logcabin.hem.com [192.168.36.1]) by logcabin.hem.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k871MIc1054826 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:22:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mdh7@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:22:18 -0500 From: Michael Hughes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060906202218.08989e7a@logcabin.hem.com> In-Reply-To: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> References: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.0; i386-unknown-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-26.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) Subject: Re: OpenOffice port vs Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:22:25 -0000 On Wed, 6 Sep 06 17:37:36 PDT perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) wrote: > Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now > several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered > that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: > > GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid > argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' aborting... > Abort trap (core dumped) > > Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About > to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is > firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 > > I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT > the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point > of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort > of problem. > > Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single > system? How is it accomplished? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Perry, It isn't easy is it. I am not sure why FireFox quit working like that. When I created the new glib for my box I was still running mozilla 5.0 and didn't have any trouble with it. I wonder if it has something to do with gtk+. I am running FireFox 1.5.0.6 that I downloaded the tarball and compiled. Let me know if you figure this out. -- Michael Hughes Log Home living is the best mdh7@earthlink.net Temperatures: Outside: 65.4 House: 72.1 Computer room: 71.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 02:22:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA9D16A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 02:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4584E43D6A for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 02:22:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bidjan@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so382403nfc for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:22:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GFY/wlpb0AkV3NM4DIqPL7Vl98pYv5mh1fyQkQNUqWsUbDrQWD8Gw0EYwz5vC85soirssFGDG2UEpnFxvQP94R1epPu0B9fovMyiey6IdFn4/wt2WTN1m+QgycYiIZv4YJJkJMcOyKfUEUyzu+n0meP1tdg6vx+UcGiH8+1rZdQ= Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr1902192nfv; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.9 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:22:16 -0400 From: "Pablo Mora" To: g In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:22:25 -0000 On 9/6/06, g wrote: > i'm trying to install xorg. using chapter 5, i installed Xorg, but it > seems to break something. with the default install of 6.1, x window > system starts. when i follow the instructions, in chapter 5, i get > this message when i tried to start it (startx). > > This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. > It is not supported in any way. > Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. > Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release. > Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the > latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. > See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. > > X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) > Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.99.903 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] > Current Operating System: FreeBSD beverly.Belkin 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD > 6.1-RELEASE #0 > : Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/ > usr/src/sys/S > MP i386 > Build Date: 16 March 2006 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Sep 6 01:56:19 2006 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf > Undefined Monitor "Monitor0" referenced by Screen "Screen0". > (EE) Problem parsing the config file > (EE) Error parsing the config file > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > at http://wiki.X.Org > for help. > Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for > additional information. > > ************************************************************************ > ****************************************** > my goal is to run to window maker, with gnustep as a development > environment. > ************************************************************************ > ****************************************** > > below is the xorg.conf.new file > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "dri" > Load "extmod" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "xtrap" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "PrecisionColor" > VendorName "Radius" > ModelName "Sony" > HorizSync 50-150 > VertRefresh 30-85 > EndSection > > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > #Option "SWcursor" # [] > #Option "ColorKey" # > #Option "CacheLines" # > #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] > #Option "DRI" # [] > #Option "NoDDC" # [] > #Option "ShowCache" # [] > #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # > #Option "PageFlip" # [] > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "i810" > VendorName "Intel Corporation" > BoardName "82865G Integrated Graphics Controller" > BusID "PCI:0:2:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 1 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > ************************************************************************ > ******************************************* > > thanks, > > g. Update your ports tree. Current version of xorg is 6.9.0 -- Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 02:30:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E06A16A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 02:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6656543D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 02:30:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k872U616037438; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k872U6u5037437; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:30:05 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20060907023005.GA37358@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: acpi: bad read from port 0x71:: FreeBSD 6.1 /boot fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:30:16 -0000 Does anybody know what to tweak in /boot/* to stop "bad read/write" messages from/to the BIOS? [At least so fare as I can tell? I've triied everything suggested on Google; rebooted, no-joy. The BIOS is reset (AFAICT) to their fail-safe defaults, but every 10 sec these errs get printed to stderr. I'd like to know what ... and *why* with 6.1, just out of the blue! thanks for any insights, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 01:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561BA16A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alsports1@aol.com) Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C864043D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:55:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alsports1@aol.com) Received: from Alsports1@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id n.c09.37ac32c (58677) for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Alsports1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:55:03 EDT To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5027 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:45:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Hey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:55:12 -0000 Hi! I have a question. I have no idea what an operating system is. I know that FreeBSD is one. And do you know what kind of program or thing you need to watch TV on the computer? I know that they have screens that you can plug your TV into, and they might even have screens that you can just watch TV on. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 03:53:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB3F16A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 03:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995A043D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 03:53:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k873ra98068367; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:53:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id k873ra6p068364; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:53:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:53:36 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: Michael Hughes In-Reply-To: <20060906202218.08989e7a@logcabin.hem.com> Message-ID: <20060906234309.V67517@fledge.watson.org> References: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> <20060906202218.08989e7a@logcabin.hem.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice port vs Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 03:53:38 -0000 On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Michael Hughes wrote: > On Wed, 6 Sep 06 17:37:36 PDT > perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) wrote: > >> Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now >> several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered >> that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: >> >> GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid >> argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' aborting... >> Abort trap (core dumped) >> >> Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About >> to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is >> firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 >> >> I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT >> the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point >> of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort >> of problem. >> >> Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single >> system? How is it accomplished? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > Perry, > It isn't easy is it. I am not sure why FireFox quit working like > that. When I created the new glib for my box I was still running > mozilla 5.0 and didn't have any trouble with it. I wonder if it has > something to do with gtk+. I am running FireFox 1.5.0.6 that I > downloaded the tarball and compiled. > > Let me know if you figure this out. > > -- > Michael Hughes Log Home living is the best > mdh7@earthlink.net > > Temperatures: > Outside: 65.4 House: 72.1 Computer room: 71.1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I am also running FireFox and OpenOffice. I tend to install packages for workstations. With OpenOffice the version on FreeBSD works okay, you just have to manually install the prereqs. The other thing I do is start fresh with a new version. I.e., I do not cvsup 4.x --> 5.0. Maybe if you did pkg_info -rRx for both packages something in common (conflict) would suggest itself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 03:56:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E9516A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 03:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@efnetshells.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC2D43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 03:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@efnetshells.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so83259wxd for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.125.2 with SMTP id x2mr398144wxc; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from danxp ( [24.242.205.160]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 38sm389462wrl.2006.09.06.20.56.18; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dan Corrigan" To: , Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:56:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AcbSJ9EURKmDv6b0T5S8ueY3vOwn2AACODng Message-ID: <44ff9863.08ccf86f.62df.6b34@mx.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: RE: Hey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 03:56:20 -0000 An operating system (OS) is a software program that manages the hardware and software resources of a computer. A key component of system software, the OS performs basic tasks, such as controlling and allocating memory, prioritizing the processing of instructions, controlling input and output devices, facilitating networking, and managing files. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system You would need a capture card to view an external video source on your PC. You would need a TV Tuner built into the card to tune channels using standard cable television as your video source. To be honest with you, if you need to ask either of these questions, FreeBSD might be a bit too advanced for you. Although I hate to discourage the use of this great operating system, you may want to stick to Windows until you are more experienced in the wonderful world of computers. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alsports1@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:55 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Hey Hi! I have a question. I have no idea what an operating system is. I know that FreeBSD is one. And do you know what kind of program or thing you need to watch TV on the computer? I know that they have screens that you can plug your TV into, and they might even have screens that you can just watch TV on. Alex _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 04:36:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2BE16A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 04:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4A843D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 04:36:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k874aYx62381; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002e01c6d237$2dcb24c0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikolas Britton" , "Perry Hutchison" References: <10609040708.AA17675@pluto.rain.com> <10609042341.AA20281@pluto.rain.com> <004401c6d09d$05f17170$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <10609050654.AA21414@pluto.rain.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:36:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:36:42 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Perry Hutchison" Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:18 AM Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 > On 9/5/06, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > > > FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really > > > > want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on > > > > this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily > > > > basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and > > > > NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: > > > > > > > > PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. > > > > Built-in FireWire. > > > > 384 MB of memory. > > > > 5 GB of disk space. > > > > It is less a matter of "want to introduce to Unix" than "want to > > avoid Windoze" :) and yes, a Mac with OS X would be fine. (My > > college sophomore is doing just fine with a one-year-old iBook.) > > > > > Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS > > > normally on DVD ... > > > If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more > > > lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require > > > FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. > > > > Is Panther an earlier MacOS X (thus still marginally on-topic > > here :) or it MacOS 9? I have actually got an old PowerMAC > > (603-based) which AFAIK won't run anything newer than 9. > > > > Yes Panther is OS X: > Mac OS X v10.0 (Cheetah) > Mac OS X v10.1 (Puma) > Mac OS X v10.2 (Jaguar) > Mac OS X v10.3 (Panther) > Mac OS X v10.4 (Tiger) > Mac OS X v10.5 (Leopard) (Yet to be released) > > NeoOffice2 (NeoOffice is OpenOffice 2.x with a native mac front-end) > requires Panther or better. Personally I would not buy anything less > then Sawtooth G4 PowerMac. You should be able to buy a fully equipped > sawtooth model on eBay for less then $250. I disagree. You can buy a Power Mac G3 for under $80 and buy a new IDE hard disk for it and run Panther on it and it will run all the stuff you want. And the seller will probably include a pirated version of Panther if you ask or even the actual install disks. Why line the pockets of some Macophile on Ebay who thinks his old junk is worth more than $100. > The best bang for your buck > would be a new refurbished Intel Mac mini for $519. Baloney. You can get a -brand new- mini mac for $30 more: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=942793 why mess around with some refurbished mac? > > A used G4 Mac mini in the $300~$400 range would also be good bed > because all mini's have USB 2.0, it's very easy to expand them using > external drives. > No it would not because the hard disk is going to be used and if it does not crap out in a year it's going to be dog-slow. If your going to go cheap - get the absolute minimum you can find for the cheapest price. Otherwise, get brand new. Trying to mess around with a price-point somewhere between new and dog-cheap is just going to waste your money. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 05:10:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6F716A503 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 05:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C2743D6A for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 05:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout12/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k875A5R3029637; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (cpe-065-191-021-225.nc.res.rr.com [65.191.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k875A0Z0017613; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:10:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> From: g Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:09:58 -0400 To: Pablo Mora X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:10:34 -0000 how do i do that? i'm a newbie. g. On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Pablo Mora wrote: > On 9/6/06, g wrote: >> i'm trying to install xorg. using chapter 5, i installed Xorg, but it >> seems to break something. with the default install of 6.1, x window >> system starts. when i follow the instructions, in chapter 5, i get >> this message when i tried to start it (startx). >> >> This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org >> Foundation. >> It is not supported in any way. >> Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. >> Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release. >> Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the >> latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. >> See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. >> >> X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) >> Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs >> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.99.903 >> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] >> Current Operating System: FreeBSD beverly.Belkin 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD >> 6.1-RELEASE #0 >> : Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/ >> obj/ >> usr/src/sys/S >> MP i386 >> Build Date: 16 March 2006 >> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org >> to make sure that you have the latest version. >> Module Loader present >> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) >> unknown. >> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Sep 6 01:56:19 2006 >> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" >> Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> Undefined Monitor "Monitor0" referenced by Screen "Screen0". >> (EE) Problem parsing the config file >> (EE) Error parsing the config file >> >> Fatal server error: >> no screens found >> >> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support >> at http://wiki.X.Org >> for help. >> Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for >> additional information. >> >> ********************************************************************* >> *** >> ****************************************** >> my goal is to run to window maker, with gnustep as a development >> environment. >> ********************************************************************* >> *** >> ****************************************** >> >> below is the xorg.conf.new file >> >> Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "X.org Configured" >> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Files" >> RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" >> ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Module" >> Load "dbe" >> Load "dri" >> Load "extmod" >> Load "glx" >> Load "record" >> Load "xtrap" >> Load "freetype" >> Load "type1" >> EndSection >> >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Keyboard0" >> Driver "kbd" >> EndSection >> >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Mouse0" >> Driver "mouse" >> Option "Protocol" "auto" >> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Monitor" >> Identifier "PrecisionColor" >> VendorName "Radius" >> ModelName "Sony" >> HorizSync 50-150 >> VertRefresh 30-85 >> EndSection >> >> Section "Device" >> ### Available Driver options are:- >> ### Values: : integer, : float, : >> "True"/"False", >> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" >> ### [arg]: arg optional >> #Option "NoAccel" # [] >> #Option "SWcursor" # [] >> #Option "ColorKey" # >> #Option "CacheLines" # >> #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] >> #Option "DRI" # [] >> #Option "NoDDC" # [] >> #Option "ShowCache" # [] >> #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # >> #Option "PageFlip" # [] >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "i810" >> VendorName "Intel Corporation" >> BoardName "82865G Integrated Graphics Controller" >> BusID "PCI:0:2:0" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Screen" >> Identifier "Screen0" >> Device "Card0" >> Monitor "Monitor0" >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 1 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 4 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 8 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 15 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 16 >> EndSubSection >> SubSection "Display" >> Viewport 0 0 >> Depth 24 >> EndSubSection >> EndSection >> >> >> ********************************************************************* >> *** >> ******************************************* >> >> thanks, >> >> g. > > Update your ports tree. Current version of xorg is 6.9.0 > > -- > Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love > Unix ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 06:07:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3907F16A4E2 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE4943D45 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k8767gx62877; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:07:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <004501c6d243$e8ec4d40$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Lee Shackelford" References: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:07:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:07:44 -0000 This isn't unusual, it happens with certain array cards. If the disk drivers of each different operating system don't agree in how the "disk" is laid out that the intelligent driver array controller presents to them, then your screwed - you cannot use the array card for a multi-boot system. Sometimes you can get away with it by installing FreeBSD on part of the disk, and a subsequent disk driver will see the FreeBSD partition and understand not to overwrite it. But, sometimes not. It strikes me that Win 2003 Server is going to run dogpile slow, I simply cannot fathom why you want to multiboot this system in the first place. The only OS's that are going to run worth a damn on it are Linux and FreeBSD, and you just need to pick one or the other. Ted PS: You do understand the difference between FreeBSD slices, FreeBSD partitions, and IBM/BIOS partitions don't you? That is your not doing something incorrect like trying to install another OS within a FreeBSD "logical slice" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Shackelford" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000 > > Initial message posted on 8/24/2006: > Good morning dear FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install FreeBSD > 6.1 on a Compaq Proliant 5000. The computer is equipped with four Pentium > Pro processors clocked at 200 mhz and with a Smart 2/P hardware-RAID array. > The BIOS indicates that the first two processors have failed. They are > actually okay, but there is something wrong with their socket on the > motherboard... > > Current message: > Thank you to the two people who responded to my original message. With > their help, I have progressed to the point of specifying the slice into > which I want the system installed. There are three primary slices on this > computer, plus one extended slice. The three primary slices all end within > the 1024 cylinder limit. The two primary slices that do not contain > FreeBSD are reserved for the installation of other operating systems. I > wish to place the swap slice/partition in the extended slice. The fdisk > program supplied with FreeBSD sees all of the extended slice as one slice, > and does not seem to be able to see the logical slices within it. Most of > my 15 gb. drive is in the extended slice. Does anyone know how to solve > this problem? All suggestions are appreciated. Yours truly, Lee > Shackelford > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 07:21:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA1D16A503; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from matrix.teledomenet.gr (dns1.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C96343D5C; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:21:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris ([192.168.1.71]) by matrix.teledomenet.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k877LREY025029; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:21:27 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:19:46 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060906210021.C2428B82C@shodan.nognu.de> In-Reply-To: <20060906210021.C2428B82C@shodan.nognu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609071019.46529.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Frank Steinborn Subject: Re: Getting GELI Keys from Floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:21:32 -0000 On Thursday 07 September 2006 00:00, Frank Steinborn wrote: > Hello, > > i want to encrypt my HDD's with GELI (not the root-fs, though). I want > to do the encryption without password, just with a key. The key should > be stored in a floppy disk, and the read should be read automatically > on boot, from the floppy. Are you sure you want to trust a floppy disk for your keys?? It's not the most safe medium these days... > > There is a problem here, because GELI initializes _before_ mounting > the disks from /etc/fstab (for obvious reasons, of course). So GELI is > not able to get the keys from the floppy and fails. > > So, any hints how I could get the floppy mounted _before_ GELI tries > to initialize? Why don't you use the plain device(/dev/fd0) instead of using a file on a filesystem on the floppy? I think there are examples in the manual page. Anyway, I find this a very very bad idea. If the floppy break in some way you're gonna be in big trouble... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 08:24:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1456B16A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91F343D45 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:24:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k878O5W7065071 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:24:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k878O50a065070; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00953; Thu, 7 Sep 06 01:20:34 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 06 01:20:34 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609070820.AA00953@pluto.rain.com> To: wmoran@collaborativefusion.com In-Reply-To: <20060906210831.f86ce289.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> References: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> <20060906210831.f86ce289.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Do I not understand shared-lib versions? (Re: OpenOffice port vs Firefox) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:24:24 -0000 > > Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now > > several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered > > that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: > > > > GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' > > aborting... > > Abort trap (core dumped) > > > > Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About > > to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it > > is firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 > > > > I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT > > the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point > > of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort > > of problem. > > ... > > I would suspect that you've hit some obscure version issue ... > I seem to remember one point at which I rebuilt OOo and had to > rebuild firefox to get it working, but I don't remember for sure. The Firefox is the package from the 6.1 CD set, and the OpenOffice is a current Ports build (in process). I figure to try rebuilding Firefox from its port once the OpenOffice build finishes -- it's been running for something over 16 hours now, and is currently in svx/source/svdraw. What I don't get is why a shared-lib change would manifest this way. If I understand shared-lib versioning correctly, any incompatible change to any exported API should have occasioned a change to at least the minor version number, precisely to avoid this sort of hit on an existing binary that was built to the old API. Such binaries "should" continue to use the old version of the shared library, no? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 10:10:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C36E16A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gtsy@mail.ru) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45AB43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:10:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gtsy@mail.ru) Received: from [87.240.6.158] (port=57408 helo=savs.home) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1GLGqE-000CUP-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:10:40 +0400 From: "Stroganov A. V." To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:10:20 +0400 Message-Id: <1157623820.31642.5.camel@savs.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Can't run openoffice on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gtsy@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:10:43 -0000 Hi. I've downloaded latest package of OOo for FreeBSD 6.1 for amd64 from good-day, installed it, but it doesn't run, saying 3 times: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: unsupported file layout any advice? uname -a: FreeBSD savs.home 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #1: Tue Jul 25 10:34:37 MSD 2006 sav@savs.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM amd64 Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 10:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAC816A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0806443D6B for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so186836wxd for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 03:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.92.12 with SMTP id p12mr387276wxb; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 03:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i40sm880730wxd.2006.09.07.03.31.44; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 03:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6EABF82; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC2DB87E; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:31:57 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060907062810.88CE.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: g Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:31:48 -0000 g wrote: > how do i do that? i'm a newbie. Well, for starters, try not top posting. Are you familiar with the process of updating the ports system either with cvsup or portsnap? If not, read the man pages. If yu still have questions, then check back here. I am assuming that you have never updated the ports on your system. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 11:08:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD2916A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E9D43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:08:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from broadpark.no ([217.13.4.96]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J57003LYYXIWAB0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:08:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.202.4.61] (Forwarded-For: [80.203.212.30]) by bgo1mstore1.broadpark.no (mshttpd); Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:08:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:08:06 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd?= To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Cc: Subject: Firefox: anti-alias issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:08:08 -0000 Hello, Has anybody else noticed that not all fonts in Firefox get anti-aliased? Only like half? I'm using Ifirefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 and I think it's rather unfortunate that Firefox acts like this by default. Poor guy at http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43683 never found a solution either. Can anybody out there help us? Thank you indeed, Kyrre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 11:09:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF3516A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681DF43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:09:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so197335wxd for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=rpA6t7lFL09S/rQ0fRkhjC3Vu9nRfD5A7vB/b+YsxHzMK6Ln6LW1NdmhbVU+Xld4n4j49sSsp5Blcppzjpn0FD0ZBqWVDpTjgHc+fRp5oCGL4msNSu7ij7OdtnhqX2IvO8v6GlX6gu9ID9abX7SMfOWWsa1DGmj8j7/tC7bMkKY= Received: by 10.90.113.20 with SMTP id l20mr95546agc; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.5? ( [67.191.189.255]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 9sm561018wrl.2006.09.07.04.07.52; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:07:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Anthony Agelastos Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:07:50 -0400 To: g X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:09:27 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:09 AM, g wrote: > how do i do that? i'm a newbie. > In being new to FreeBSD, you should read the Handbook (or at least peruse it so you have some idea what is contained within it). If you go to the FreeBSD home page and click on Documentation, you will be taken to a site that has a lot of options for documentation, with one of them being "For Newbies". I recommend reading through that link as well; it will help you immensely with FreeBSD. The FreeBSD project has _very_ good documentation. For your CVSup/Portsnap questions: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports- using.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 11:09:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D4816A4ED for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D2443D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so186766uge for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:09:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WxW/4Zhks6GLi5AYhsHRFNMKrRT8zmZf4iAt8NQ3u0UpnRaOLke4VBQ9V2IIO/zSbMK+qQ1UUBscWnow5DGxz0UzT2lLd0Def+2dEtjRsONlqjskWos8vSORakFokk8+7GEXtoD/IFp51N24LHtb9Ic5Ayl92rDbknUyv0xQbhU= Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr311612ugm; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.14 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 04:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19861fba0609070409p6123418ej4b00665c16b9dff4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:09:33 +0200 From: J65nko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:09:36 -0000 You can download the latest ports tree from http://www.freebsd.org/ports/installing.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 11:34:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC4B16A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2162243D46 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:34:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:34:08 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k87BYIWq005386; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:34:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:34:18 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: J65nko Message-ID: <20060907113418.GA5193@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> <19861fba0609070409p6123418ej4b00665c16b9dff4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <19861fba0609070409p6123418ej4b00665c16b9dff4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2006 11:34:08.0662 (UTC) FILETIME=[884E7B60:01C6D271] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:34:22 -0000 El día Thursday, September 07, 2006 a las 01:09:33PM +0200, J65nko escribió: > You can download the latest ports tree from > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/installing.html Hello, One question concerning this: Can this be used regardless of the underlaying FreeBSD system 6.0-REL versus 6.1-REL or are there dependencies, for example newer sys calls or driver software in the ports like iwi firmware, etc.? Thx. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 11:51:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9427516A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37CE43D4C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:51:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k87Bp6xK030706 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:51:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:51:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> <200609061905.02930.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200609061905.02930.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609070651.05738.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:51:14 -0000 On Wednesday 06 September 2006 19:05, Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Wednesday 06 September 2006 13:16, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > On 9/6/06, Jonathan Horne wrote: > > > is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build > > > server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built > > > from the same machine? > > > > buildworld and buildkernel targets are > > fairly sophisticated. > > > > The /usr/obj tree corresponds to the source > > directory, so if you have your 5.5 sources in > > /src/5.5 > > and your 6.1 sources in > > /src/6.1 (or /usr/src/6.1 for that matter) > > > > the world(s) would be built in > > /usr/obj/src/5.5/ and /usr/obj/src/6.1/ > > repsectively. (Or /usr/obj/usr/src/6.1) > > > > If the purpose is to buildworld on one > > fast machine and then export it to slower > > machines on th' network, this works > > admirably well. > > thank you!! this was the exact hint i was hoping for! > > cheers, > jonathan well, so far, kinda so good. i was able to cvsup 5.5-RELENG, 6.1-STABLE, and 6.1-RELENG to my build box. i did a test kernel on the 6.1-RELENG, and that went fine, pretty much as expected. but the 5.5 will not build. i get this error: [root@hephastus /usr/5.5-RELENG/src]# make buildkernel KERNCONF=TYCHE -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for TYCHE started on Thu Sep 7 06:48:26 CDT 2006 -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> TYCHE mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/i386/conf; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin config -d /usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/TYCHE /usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/i386/conf/TYCHE ../../conf/files: coda/coda_fbsd.c must be optional, mandatory or standard *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/5.5-RELENG/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/5.5-RELENG/src. should building parts of 5.5 from a 6.1-buildserver be possible? or should i install 5.5 on my buildserver, and compile 5.5 from there as well as the higher versions? thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 12:11:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA3116A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AD743D67 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so214857wxd for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:11:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b9GCVVoIvVuRZwTqTIxla+R7ZucgFX4lkvYn6S36LjWoe6lumwjk077BPTz65VoM62E/3DDnmbsTHgFO0IyPrRVbwUC8GUKe1T81agtHHYeP0TaZJEA5f7W+a3++BaWNrbHlmBG+u1IzQZ3xuA5r7jpRE53s+BLg/7DSMJ2G6Es= Received: by 10.90.78.16 with SMTP id a16mr132870agb; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 05:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609070511t3c18a9c7xf70388821bd6415d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:11:27 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8a0028260609051250m45931c68y59b377eb66b22716@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260609051250m45931c68y59b377eb66b22716@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: LVM support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:11:37 -0000 On 05/09/06, Jeff Rollin wrote: > > Hi list, > > I'm wondering whether FreeBSD is able to support reading (at least, but > preferably also writing) Linux LVM volumes? I have an itch to try FreeBSD on > a desktop but all my data is in a Linux LVM. > > Is it possible? > > TIA, > > Jeff Rollin > > -- > No answers for two days; I can take that as a "no," then, can I? Oh well, there's always VMPlayer Proud Linux user since 1998 > -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 12:19:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F9416A585 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rance@frontiernet.net) Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A286443D46 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:19:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rance@frontiernet.net) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.4.1 at filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Received: from localhost (webmail05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.104]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43E33704A0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:18:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: from 67-137-161-18.bras01.kea.ne.frontiernet.net (67-137-161-18.bras01.kea.ne.frontiernet.net [67.137.161.18]) by webmail.frontiernet.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:19:06 +0000 Message-ID: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:19:06 +0000 From: "rance@frontiernet.net" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.5-cvs) Subject: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:19:08 -0000 After cvsupping my ports tree to fix a couple of security problems I decided to install cups for printing. Yea I know it isnt the freebsd default -- thats for another day. Anyway This new version of cups 1.2.2 is really cool, I like the interface and the web admin portal has really undergone lots of work. My problem is that when you add a printer via the web interface the devices pull-down does not show a parallel port even if the system has detected that there is a printer there. (ie dmesg shows the printer discovery) so where is the parallel port? I asked on the cups list, and got nowhere. I googled for it, but didn't get anything helpful here is what I know: An older version of cups on THIS same machine DID find the SAME printer. there is a parallel option in the back-ends directory. I cant find a log entry anywhere that suggests that a parallel port printer is even being searched for and not found, so I can't be for sure where exactly the problem lies. anybody seen this behavior before? or have a clue? Thanks Rance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 12:31:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5621716A52D; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from shodan.nognu.de (shodan.nognu.de [85.14.216.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FBA43E1B; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:29:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by shodan.nognu.de (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6205EB82C; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:29:01 +0200 From: Frank Steinborn To: Nikos Vassiliadis Mail-Followup-To: Nikos Vassiliadis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org References: <20060906210021.C2428B82C@shodan.nognu.de> <200609071019.46529.nvass@teledomenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609071019.46529.nvass@teledomenet.gr> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Message-Id: <20060907122901.6205EB82C@shodan.nognu.de> Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting GELI Keys from Floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:31:09 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Are you sure you want to trust a floppy disk for your keys?? > It's not the most safe medium these days... I'll backup the keys on CD. It's just that I don't want to waste a CD-ROM drive in this server. > > > > There is a problem here, because GELI initializes _before_ mounting > > the disks from /etc/fstab (for obvious reasons, of course). So GELI is > > not able to get the keys from the floppy and fails. > > > > So, any hints how I could get the floppy mounted _before_ GELI tries > > to initialize? > > Why don't you use the plain device(/dev/fd0) instead of using a file on a > filesystem on the floppy? I think there are examples in the manual page. I could use /dev/fd0 directly but then I had to use the same key for all 6 HDD's in the server. I got a solution by hacking /etc/rc.d/geli - I'm just mounting the floppy there before it tries to read the key. Thanks for all the people giving suggestions! Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 12:34:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3340316A504 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lopisaur@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC0543D82 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:33:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lopisaur@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so287469pye for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:33:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:reply-to:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=YJM2PKxfSfnnhHwvvZoIToiLU9xUNH82eZQqlItnz+lH4O8SCu+pX7rNX3dbWqan0zrhYgVl9mfvxIQKYNozmwHSCWFHpcgMUV31NiQAIEJ0CQGVUdiqVib2+MAKyBupAwxZSNGdXWQkpMxmR2XAZdHLceqVXnheXGI1Yz5Z/4M= Received: by 10.35.18.4 with SMTP id v4mr596351pyi; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hellion.clcw ( [200.105.142.6]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id b52sm215780pyb.2006.09.07.05.33.03; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:33:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Lopez de Castilla Wagner To: freebsd-stable , freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:38:16 -0400 Message-Id: <1157632696.92392.14.camel@hellion.clcw> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: hp or Toshiba laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lopisaur@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:34:01 -0000 Hi guys, I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week, due to budget, time and the fact that I'm near the end of civilization right now, I have the following choices: Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g), Intel PRO/1000 VE 10/100/1000 Base-TX, FastIR, Intel GMA950, Realtek ALC861 Audio, 5-in-1 cardreader, FireWire) or hp nx6320 (Same specs, except Broadcom NetLink Gig-Ethernet (BCM5788M) and ADI1981HD audio, no cardreader). I'll be running 6-Stable on this, with X, Gnome, et al. Has anyone had any experience (positive or negative) with either of these machines? Which wired Ethernet works better with FreeBSD? Is the wireless reliable/unreliable, does it work at all? Audio? Graphics under X? What about IR/FireWire, cardreader? And most importantly, what about power management? -- Christian Lopez de Castilla Wagner lopisaur@gmail.com PGP ID: 483EA9B6 (+591-705)98290 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 12:38:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661FF16A51B for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B664143D45 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:38:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k87CcKuH018162 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:38:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <450012AF.9080100@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:38:07 +0100 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060811) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> <19861fba0609070409p6123418ej4b00665c16b9dff4@mail.gmail.com> <20060907113418.GA5193@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20060907113418.GA5193@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: J65nko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:38:20 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Thursday, September 07, 2006 a las 01:09:33PM +0200, J65nko escribió: > >> You can download the latest ports tree from >> http://www.freebsd.org/ports/installing.html > > Hello, > > One question concerning this: Can this be used regardless of the > underlaying FreeBSD system 6.0-REL versus 6.1-REL or are there > dependencies, for example newer sys calls or driver software in > the ports like iwi firmware, etc.? > It should be usable regardless of underlying version, as the port maintainer should put in version checks to stop it being built on systems that cant run it. (I say should as i'm sure some don't although I've yet to find one that doesn't.) Vince > Thx. > > matthias > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 12:42:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1B216A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4098643D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:42:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2006 08:42:47 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id MFB01799; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2006 08:42:46 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,224,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="272522390:sNHT29082788" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17664.5027.243777.190581@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:42:11 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> References: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090202.4500123F.007A,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.113/2006-07-26 Subject: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:42:49 -0000 rance@frontiernet.net writes: > anybody seen this behavior before? or have a clue? I don't know if this is your problem, but I have seen similar issues. _In my case_, CUPS as ported does not like the permissions on /dev/lpt0*. They default to "crw-------"; setting them to "crw-rw-rw-" makes the parallel printer appear. There should be a way to tall devfs to change those permissions automatically, but I haven't been able to figure it out. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 12:52:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CC316A4E5 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2551C43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:52:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k87CqN3u018323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:52:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <450015FA.7040406@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:52:10 +0100 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060811) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Rollin References: <8a0028260609051250m45931c68y59b377eb66b22716@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260609070511t3c18a9c7xf70388821bd6415d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8a0028260609070511t3c18a9c7xf70388821bd6415d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LVM support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:52:22 -0000 Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 05/09/06, Jeff Rollin wrote: >> >> Hi list, >> >> I'm wondering whether FreeBSD is able to support reading (at least, but >> preferably also writing) Linux LVM volumes? I have an itch to try >> FreeBSD on >> a desktop but all my data is in a Linux LVM. >> >> Is it possible? >> >> TIA, >> >> Jeff Rollin >> >> -- >> > > No answers for two days; I can take that as a "no," then, can I? > > Oh well, there's always VMPlayer > > Proud Linux user since 1998 >> > As far as i'm aware FreeBSD doesnt support Linux LVM (it uses vinum and/or gvinum, dont know much about it as never used it) Freebsd Runs fine as a guest OS in Xen apparently which might be better for you as VMWare player needs a vmware image (easy to find on google I expect but still..) and you dont get to play with the installer that way ;) Vince > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 13:10:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B40216A4E2 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@voidcaptain.com) Received: from mx4.x15.net (mx4.x15.net [69.55.237.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4C943D45 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:10:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@voidcaptain.com) Received: from j1.x15.net [63.196.213.76] by mx4.x15.net with ESMTP id 608060222X1GLJec000LBV21; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:10:50 +0000 Message-ID: <45001A3B.70800@voidcaptain.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:10:19 -0700 From: Pete Slagle MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060907000141.GA36761@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20060907000141.GA36761@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Efficacy vs. "friendliness" [Was: How to fix init -> /etc/ttys?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:10:51 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > Anyway, this is to the entire list: A week or so ago > I loaned my 5.3 set to a non-geek friend who had occasionally > been using RH. He brought the box of discs back and said it > was too hard to install; that RH had a much easier installation > process. True. So I gave him my old Ubuntu boot disk. He's > happy with it. ---I realize how much smaller the FBSD hacker > base is.... Still, having a GUI-ish intro makes sense in > gaining new converts. I'm still here because this Berkeley > distro really *is* solid. One fatal trap in 11 years I > can handle. > < SOAPBOX> It's a test. If your friend thinks FreeBSD is difficult to install, then he is probably better served by something else. There are many choices. All is well. The idea that FreeBSD should be altered to better compete in a popularity contest for new users comes up regularly on this list, but that idea is suspect. Many FreeBSD users see it as a feature, an advantage, that no "GUI-ish"-ness impedes access to the O/S. Which is not to say that the GUI-ish stuff isn't available, but the beauty is that it isn't in the way when you don't need or want it. Changing FreeBSD to be more "friendly" to new users would inevitably make it less appealing to the experienced users who value concision, efficiency, and direct control (who comprise it primary user base) and thus is to be resisted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 13:18:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3A016A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB86A43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:17:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so304934pye for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:17:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MP03ZiW84glq4s4/Q7U0ffR+wFZKgcrkL/70w8JnoUhb3My2ULUUSHc/tiZdojfyJQsn7PE+zOsgo/zYtY3gmwhGnBelv+dGON6lMYz85vCEkgi1ZM2zgKFKbfwITMMV3iF64VGQ8w+ub/+8BC0/3nSjxBBVoUTOJA4iW8f9rlg= Received: by 10.35.80.20 with SMTP id h20mr687731pyl; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.123.1 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0609070617u6416ebc1l711ec6e163c89a44@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:17:56 +0200 From: VeeJay To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, maanjee@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Please Help AMD, mysql, FreeBSD 64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:18:07 -0000 Hello Just wondering if I can get an advice from this forum? What kind of hardware i.e.(Processor, RAM) I need to accomplish following jobs on a FreeBSD plateform: I have some mysql dumps around 2 GB each....with each record is 100 KB... 1. What is the best method to import them into a mysql database without getting any "Out of Memory" Error? or freezing MySQL? 2. If I run a little Perl script and read a mysql record per iteration, how can I avoid "illigle memory address" access errors? Somebody talked about AMD 64 processor with FreeBSD 64 version, etc? I will be really grateful for your kind advices/suggestions.... Regards VeeJay -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 13:20:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DEF16A4E1 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A050343D4C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:20:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621FC1C178D3; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:20:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.99.26.81] (helo=[10.0.0.11]) by smtp06.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1GLJnX-000488-00; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:20:03 +0200 Message-ID: <45001C82.30200@web.de> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:20:02 +0200 From: Jona Joachim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> <17664.5027.243777.190581@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17664.5027.243777.190581@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: jaj13@web.de X-Sender: jaj13@web.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:20:05 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > rance@frontiernet.net writes: > >> anybody seen this behavior before? or have a clue? > > I don't know if this is your problem, but I have seen similar > issues. > _In my case_, CUPS as ported does not like the permissions on > /dev/lpt0*. They default to "crw-------"; setting them to > "crw-rw-rw-" makes the parallel printer appear. > There should be a way to tall devfs to change those permissions > automatically, but I haven't been able to figure it out. You have to specify perm lpt0 0666 in /etc/devfs.conf --jona From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 13:31:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6207E16A4E2 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA5643DC0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:30:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so237100wxd for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cMv7jqLBdRTUz0c9QigPQ35rsUPtdnZ1SOf6v9bCRl4jNkcw7g85VuV8tiDtC/AQJWkzJHzSx7aSDionOiYa1uOEGRv1b73naAPyM5zypTMFCBVtAP20Euaivq/HawYrbuAxWjrpHjrEg17vsaKOQhZAVrLrq8Z/b4jWtDxb0DQ= Received: by 10.90.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr175585agc; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.93.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:30:17 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "FreeBSD Users Questions" In-Reply-To: <20060906185449.41020.qmail@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060906185449.41020.qmail@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:31:41 -0000 On 06/09/06, White Hat wrote: > > > That is a totally unqualified evaluation. No it's not. It's in response to YOUR comment that "A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing". And OpenOffice fits that bill. > While it may > be totally suitable for one individual, that in no way > infers that it meets the requirements of another. > There is no way you can define an end users > requirements based solely on your own usage. It's based on YOUR assertion, not mine. You are kidding right. I can find vastly more > documentation available for a win32 machine than for > FBSD. Where? In fact, the lact of documentation is one of the > reasons that support groups like this evolved. And they exist for Windows users too. And they exist for the same reasons. > It is above average, I will agree. However, if it were > really perfect then this forum would not exist. I didn't say it was perfect. But even if it was that doesn't wollow that this group wouldn't exist. If that were true, MS would not rule 90+ percent of > the PCs in use today. Why do you think users in third > rate countries pirate MS when they could get FBSD for > free? Because Windows is pre-installed for one. > I would not want to insult anyone; however, if > you cannot install an MS operating system then perhaps > you should consider another hobby. Even my wife's > sister can handle that project, and that is a woman > who considers a can opener a high tech device. I didn't say anything about installing - you keep going off topic - I said using. And plenty of people do have problems using Windows. If they didn't, there wouldn't be a need for all the call centre armies whose job is basically helping Windows users. > You have users here with 10+ years experience who run > int problems. It is just the nature of the beast. It > comes with the territory. That's right - it's because Windows is not as easy to use (or rather fix when broken) as you are making out. Obviously it required installation. Before you can > install, it is again obvious that you must secure the > item. One size definitely does not fit all. What is > your point? I am contradicting your point. That is my point. Norton is pathetic, that I will agree with you on that > one. I didn't say it was pathetic, so please don't suggest that I did. I said it had problems. It is one of the most popular products in its field. That is why I switched three years ago to ZA. It > has never given me a moment of trouble, although the > CA AV it uses by default is not RFC 2595 compliant > which was causing my network problems. One I corrected > it though, everything was back to normal. > > BTW, 'time consuming for your techies'? Ah gee, like > what are they paid for? To stand around and kiss each > others butt. I am sick of over paid techies who have > no working knowledge of what they are doing. If they > find their job to stressful, quit! You clearly are way out of your depth and have no understanding of what techies do. They should be spending time helping customers use our services, NOT doing free tech support for Microsoft. And that is basically what they spend a lot of time doing. Please do me one favor, do not CC me. I am continually > getting two copies of these. I subscribe to the list. > I don't send you duplicate copies and therefore would > appreciate the same cutesy. Perhaps my address was > already inserted by a previous poster. If so, please > do remove it. Removed. Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 13:37:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2254616A500 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D5643D97 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:35:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so471043nfc for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:35:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Z72/FeBP3pBv/HCvvH9TVRVG0ywH6PgjePIdXBf0WFiSP847T7QN29K31tCkNy6N+trvvOUDD6ytNJ0yRZ+3fYN6+r2ZqqzXK4bVPu7VdPuRlA1ecAfRQwhCxPnrNWrx7osc6jjeYUimz9za7A9Rr8agY5iQL+/DctWFazkAbBU= Received: by 10.66.252.4 with SMTP id z4mr391056ugh; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.106.17 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <226ae0c60609070635n7e901beewa21f0757d2ab99ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:35:08 -0400 From: "David Robillard" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: need a restricted shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:37:05 -0000 > I am looking for a shell that will allow Subversion to be run over > ssh but not allow interactive login or if it allows interactive > login, will only allow Subversion commands to be run... Any ideas > on how to accomplish this? Hi Chad, You could install the shells/scponly port and build it with it's chroot option. (i.e. sudo make -DWITH_SCPONLY_CHROOT install) Don't run the `make clean` just yet, because you will need the "setup_chroot.sh" script which is inside the work/scponly- directory. Use the script to create a chroot directory. Then populate this new chroot directory with the files required by the commands and libraries which you want to give to your users (such as Subversion). Next, use vipw(8) to assign /usr/local/sbin/scponlyc as the shell and the chroot directory for the user(s) which you want to limit only to your Subversion commands. Assign a password to those users then test if you can connect and use the Subversion commands. Basically, this is Hack number 63 on page 269 in the book "BSD Hacks, 100 Industrial-Strength Tips & Tools" by Dru Lavigne published by O'Reilly. (ISBN: 0-596-00679-9). Also, to further restrict access to your machine, configure sshd(8) to allow only a limited subset of users. See AllowUsers and AllowGroups in sshd_config(5) for this. Finally, if you happen to know the origin of the connections, then configure TCP_WRAPPERS via /etc/hosts.allow to limit ssh connections. See hosts_access(5) and section 14.6 of the FreeBSD Handbook for info on how to set this up. Alright, if you have any questions, please be my guest and send them up to me. Cheers! David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:09:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC15316A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8638743D5A for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:09:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2006 10:09:07 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,226,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="294593119:sNHT25062756" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id GWZ93521; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2006 10:08:33 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,226,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="272583438:sNHT25696520" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17664.10172.939032.620287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:07:56 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45001C82.30200@web.de> References: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> <17664.5027.243777.190581@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45001C82.30200@web.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090205.4500267C.0097,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:09:10 -0000 Jona Joachim writes: > > _In my case_, CUPS as ported does not like the permissions on > > /dev/lpt0*. They default to "crw-------"; setting them to > > "crw-rw-rw-" makes the parallel printer appear. > > There should be a way to tall devfs to change those permissions > > automatically, but I haven't been able to figure it out. > > You have to specify > perm lpt0 0666 > in /etc/devfs.conf huff@jerusalem>> dir /dev/lpt* crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 79 Sep 5 20:45 /dev/lpt0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 80 Sep 5 20:45 /dev/lpt0.ctl huff@jerusalem>> grep lpt /etc/devfs.conf # make lpt0 available to CUPS perm /dev/lpt0 0666 Doesn't seem to work. :-( Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:21:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0729516A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2250743D69 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:21:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GLKlD-0003uj-Q4; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:21:43 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GLKlD-0003KK-8s; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:21:43 +0100 Message-ID: <45002AF6.4040804@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:21:42 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pete Slagle References: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060907000141.GA36761@thought.org> <45001A3B.70800@voidcaptain.com> In-Reply-To: <45001A3B.70800@voidcaptain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Efficacy vs. "friendliness" [Was: How to fix init -> /etc/ttys?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:21:56 -0000 Pete Slagle wrote: >Gary Kline wrote: > > >> >> Anyway, this is to the entire list: A week or so ago >> I loaned my 5.3 set to a non-geek friend who had occasionally >> been using RH. He brought the box of discs back and said it >> was too hard to install; that RH had a much easier installation >> process. True. So I gave him my old Ubuntu boot disk. He's >> happy with it. ---I realize how much smaller the FBSD hacker >> base is.... Still, having a GUI-ish intro makes sense in >> gaining new converts. I'm still here because this Berkeley >> distro really *is* solid. One fatal trap in 11 years I >> can handle. >> < SOAPBOX> >> >> > >Many FreeBSD users see it as a feature, an advantage, that no >"GUI-ish"-ness impedes access to the O/S. Which is not to say that the >GUI-ish stuff isn't available, but the beauty is that it isn't in the >way when you don't need or want it. > > > You are confusing two things, to my mind. 1) The GUI-ness of th OS 2) The GUI-ness of the installer. I would strongly object to a FreeBSD that forced some kind of "desktop environment" on me or that mandated only controlling what software runs through "smart wizards", but I think there is little danger of that. But the FreeBSD installer is somewhat long in the tooth. I don't think anyone would object to an installer that was a bit more straightforward and, say, easier to configure. Of course, it would have to keep the flexibility which sysinstall gives, but there's no reason why it couldn't give a more straightforward install path for first-time users of FreeBSD who have experience with other Unix-like OSes, or even moderately competent windows users. Once you get the hang of it, sysinstall is mostly fine, but really, making it better is not somehow pandering to the great unwashed. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:37:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14A916A4E5 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B954543D79 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:37:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so50303wri for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:37:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ugKaXBTg9IqYPpuBajOl6t9mSckQFJYTP6+jF6SecIkUqYErXutPUimQ/1+VWtEbPfm+9s8EcaQp/4vASpBLOeqglBk1G9CZebivXLNylTsjRsB2f+vgWP0vBSm+4NL8psA7fGEDZzWV27/4uQAheo5C1fF89Z+B7Ecqw5qLXlk= Received: by 10.90.28.12 with SMTP id b12mr219529agb; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609070737l75b929f6m88ec117e6b7b041@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:37:28 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: Vince In-Reply-To: <450015FA.7040406@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260609051250m45931c68y59b377eb66b22716@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260609070511t3c18a9c7xf70388821bd6415d@mail.gmail.com> <450015FA.7040406@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LVM support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:37:40 -0000 On 07/09/06, Vince wrote: > > Jeff Rollin wrote: > > On 05/09/06, Jeff Rollin wrote: > >> > >> Hi list, > >> > >> I'm wondering whether FreeBSD is able to support reading (at least, but > >> preferably also writing) Linux LVM volumes? I have an itch to try > >> FreeBSD on > >> a desktop but all my data is in a Linux LVM. > >> > >> Is it possible? > >> > >> TIA, > >> > >> Jeff Rollin > >> > >> -- > >> > > > > No answers for two days; I can take that as a "no," then, can I? > > > > Oh well, there's always VMPlayer > > > > Proud Linux user since 1998 > >> > > > As far as i'm aware FreeBSD doesnt support Linux LVM (it uses vinum > and/or gvinum, dont know much about it as never used it) > Freebsd Runs fine as a guest OS in Xen apparently which might be better > for you as VMWare player needs a vmware image (easy to find on google I > expect but still..) and you dont get to play with the installer that way > ;) Thanks for the pointers. As an aside, are you worried about the legality of VMWare images in VMPlayer? I don't think they're an issue (at least with FOSS OS's such as *BSD), since iirc VMware provide links to OS images on their websites (including, I believe, PC- and Free-BSD). Jeff Rollin -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:40:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E3616A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6613E43D69 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:40:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GLL30-0007y8-8q; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:40:06 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GLL2z-000359-JW; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:40:05 +0100 Message-ID: <45002F44.5040508@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:40:04 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> <17664.5027.243777.190581@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45001C82.30200@web.de> <17664.10172.939032.620287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17664.10172.939032.620287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:40:15 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: >Jona Joachim writes: > > > >> > _In my case_, CUPS as ported does not like the permissions on >> > /dev/lpt0*. They default to "crw-------"; setting them to >> > "crw-rw-rw-" makes the parallel printer appear. >> > There should be a way to tall devfs to change those permissions >> > automatically, but I haven't been able to figure it out. >> >> You have to specify >> perm lpt0 0666 >> in /etc/devfs.conf >> >> > >huff@jerusalem>> dir /dev/lpt* >crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 79 Sep 5 20:45 /dev/lpt0 >crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 80 Sep 5 20:45 /dev/lpt0.ctl >huff@jerusalem>> grep lpt /etc/devfs.conf ># make lpt0 available to CUPS >perm /dev/lpt0 0666 > > Did you as root do sh /etc/rc.d/devfs start AFAIK rules are only applied when the node is created, which it already would have been when you added/changed your rule. Also not /dev/lpt0 but just lpt0. Devfs rules only apply to /dev! --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:41:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AA516A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys15.mail.msu.edu (sys15.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0E243D8B for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:41:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys15.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GLL3t-0004Ra-MF; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:41:01 -0400 References: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609070037.AA29499@pluto.rain.com> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:40:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice port vs Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:41:22 -0000 Perry Hutchison writes: > Having gotten a sufficiently-recent version of glib, I am now > several hours into the build of OpenOffice, and I've discovered > that Firefox has quit working. When I try to start it: > > GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 187 (): error 'Invalid argument' during 'pthread_mutex_trylock' > aborting... > Abort trap (core dumped) > > Of course, since it won't start up, I can't consult Help/About > to find out the version :( but based on /var/db/pkg I think it is > firefox-1.5.0.1_1,1 > > I suppose Firefox and OpenOffice are tripping over each other WRT > the version of some shared library, but I thought the whole point > of having version numbers on shared libs was to prevent that sort > of problem. > > Does anyone have Firefox and OpenOffice coexisting on a single > system? How is it accomplished? Yes, I have both on FreeBSD 6.1. I didn't do anything special. I just built them both from ports. I had to get the jdk thing from Sun for OpenOffice first due to the license restrictions from Sun which is annoying. But it is easy and straightforward. Then I just make make install on each of Firefox, Thunderbird and openoffice and after a long time they were all there and worked. I made OpenOffice be the WP for Firefox to bring up to handle .doc and maybe a couple of other file types and that works fine too. I did cvsup everything (system and ports tree) to the latest before getting started with doing ports installations. That might make a difference. ////jerry ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:42:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D2216A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B6D43D91 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:42:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 10173 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2006 14:42:01 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Sep 2006 14:42:01 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id DF9F82842B; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:42:00 -0400 (EDT) To: Noah References: <44FF4F7F.6030800@enabled.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:42:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <44FF4F7F.6030800@enabled.com> (Noah's message of "Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:45:19 -0700") Message-ID: <44venzu4av.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.firewall rule for passive FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:42:05 -0000 Noah writes: > what is a good rule to allow passive FTP to work. > > the following rules still blocks passive FTP. > > #/** Allow setup of FTP PASSIVE **/ > ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from any to ${ip} 49152-65534 setup If the passive FTP client is on ${ip}, then that's the wrong direction; it needs to be able to *send* the SYN. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:47:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30DB16A4E1 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3AE43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:47:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2006 10:47:44 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,226,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="294630133:sNHT36079388" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id GXA18615; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2006 10:46:42 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,226,1154923200"; d="scan'208"; a="272613918:sNHT31222480" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17664.12461.511170.575677@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:46:05 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45002F44.5040508@dial.pipex.com> References: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> <17664.5027.243777.190581@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45001C82.30200@web.de> <17664.10172.939032.620287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45002F44.5040508@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090205.45002F8A.0030,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:47:55 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw writes: > Did you as root do > > sh /etc/rc.d/devfs start > > AFAIK rules are only applied when the node is created, which it > already would have been when you added/changed your rule. > > Also not /dev/lpt0 but just lpt0. Devfs rules only apply to /dev! That /seems/ to have done it. (We'll see it it survives the next reboot. :-) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:52:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E3B16A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys14.mail.msu.edu (sys14.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04D243D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys14.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GLLEV-0003FO-IT; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:51:59 -0400 References: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060907000141.GA36761@thought.org> <45001A3B.70800@voidcaptain.com> <45002AF6.4040804@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <45002AF6.4040804@dial.pipex.com> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: Alex Zbyslaw Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:51:59 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pete Slagle Subject: Re: Efficacy vs. "friendliness" [Was: How to fix init -> /etc/ttys?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:52:52 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw writes: > Pete Slagle wrote: > >> Gary Kline wrote: >> >>> >>> Anyway, this is to the entire list: A week or so ago >>> I loaned my 5.3 set to a non-geek friend who had occasionally >>> been using RH. He brought the box of discs back and said it >>> was too hard to install; that RH had a much easier installation >>> process. True. So I gave him my old Ubuntu boot disk. He's >>> happy with it. ---I realize how much smaller the FBSD hacker >>> base is.... Still, having a GUI-ish intro makes sense in gaining new >>> converts. I'm still here because this Berkeley >>> distro really *is* solid. One fatal trap in 11 years I >>> can handle. >>> < SOAPBOX> >> >> Many FreeBSD users see it as a feature, an advantage, that no >> "GUI-ish"-ness impedes access to the O/S. Which is not to say that the >> GUI-ish stuff isn't available, but the beauty is that it isn't in the >> way when you don't need or want it. >> > You are confusing two things, to my mind. 1) The GUI-ness of th OS 2) The > GUI-ness of the installer. I would strongly object to a FreeBSD that > forced some kind of "desktop environment" on me or that mandated only > controlling what software runs through "smart wizards", but I think there > is little danger of that. > > But the FreeBSD installer is somewhat long in the tooth. I don't think > anyone would object to an installer that was a bit more straightforward > and, say, easier to configure. Of course, it would have to keep the > flexibility which sysinstall gives, but there's no reason why it couldn't > give a more straightforward install path for first-time users of FreeBSD > who have experience with other Unix-like OSes, or even moderately > competent windows users. > > Once you get the hang of it, sysinstall is mostly fine, but really, making > it better is not somehow pandering to the great unwashed. OK. Good perspective. Seems like you have your work cut out for you then. I will be interested in seeing the result. ////jerry > > --Alex > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 14:56:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC1D16A4E1 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys12.mail.msu.edu (sys12.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDC243D66 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:56:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys12.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GLLIw-0007OR-Kj; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:56:34 -0400 References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: g Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:56:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pablo Mora Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:56:40 -0000 g writes: > how do i do that? i'm a newbie. Avoid top posting. Then, check out cvsup and keeping your source and ports up to date in the handbook. It is all there in pretty plain descriptions. Even I was able to do it, so anybody can. ////jerry > > g. > On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Pablo Mora wrote: > >> On 9/6/06, g wrote: >>> i'm trying to install xorg. using chapter 5, i installed Xorg, but it >>> seems to break something. with the default install of 6.1, x window >>> system starts. when i follow the instructions, in chapter 5, i get >>> this message when i tried to start it (startx). >>> >>> This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org >>> Foundation. >>> It is not supported in any way. >>> Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. >>> Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release. >>> Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the >>> latest version in the X.Org Foundation CVS repository. >>> See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CvsPage for CVS access instructions. >>> >>> X Window System Version 6.8.99.903 (6.9.0 RC 3) >>> Release Date: 03 December 2005 + cvs >>> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.99.903 >>> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] >>> Current Operating System: FreeBSD beverly.Belkin 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD >>> 6.1-RELEASE #0 >>> : Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/ obj/ >>> usr/src/sys/S >>> MP i386 >>> Build Date: 16 March 2006 >>> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org >>> to make sure that you have the latest version. >>> Module Loader present >>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >>> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >>> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Sep 6 01:56:19 2006 >>> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" >>> Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf >>> Undefined Monitor "Monitor0" referenced by Screen "Screen0". >>> (EE) Problem parsing the config file >>> (EE) Error parsing the config file >>> >>> Fatal server error: >>> no screens found >>> >>> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support >>> at http://wiki.X.Org >>> for help. >>> Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for >>> additional information. >>> >>> ********************************************************************* >>> *** >>> ****************************************** >>> my goal is to run to window maker, with gnustep as a development >>> environment. >>> ********************************************************************* >>> *** >>> ****************************************** >>> >>> below is the xorg.conf.new file >>> >>> Section "ServerLayout" >>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Files" >>> RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" >>> ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" >>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" >>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Module" >>> Load "dbe" >>> Load "dri" >>> Load "extmod" >>> Load "glx" >>> Load "record" >>> Load "xtrap" >>> Load "freetype" >>> Load "type1" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "InputDevice" >>> Identifier "Keyboard0" >>> Driver "kbd" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "InputDevice" >>> Identifier "Mouse0" >>> Driver "mouse" >>> Option "Protocol" "auto" >>> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >>> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Monitor" >>> Identifier "PrecisionColor" >>> VendorName "Radius" >>> ModelName "Sony" >>> HorizSync 50-150 >>> VertRefresh 30-85 >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Device" >>> ### Available Driver options are:- >>> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", >>> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" >>> ### [arg]: arg optional >>> #Option "NoAccel" # [] >>> #Option "SWcursor" # [] >>> #Option "ColorKey" # >>> #Option "CacheLines" # >>> #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] >>> #Option "DRI" # [] >>> #Option "NoDDC" # [] >>> #Option "ShowCache" # [] >>> #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # >>> #Option "PageFlip" # [] >>> Identifier "Card0" >>> Driver "i810" >>> VendorName "Intel Corporation" >>> BoardName "82865G Integrated Graphics Controller" >>> BusID "PCI:0:2:0" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Screen" >>> Identifier "Screen0" >>> Device "Card0" >>> Monitor "Monitor0" >>> SubSection "Display" >>> Viewport 0 0 >>> Depth 1 >>> EndSubSection >>> SubSection "Display" >>> Viewport 0 0 >>> Depth 4 >>> EndSubSection >>> SubSection "Display" >>> Viewport 0 0 >>> Depth 8 >>> EndSubSection >>> SubSection "Display" >>> Viewport 0 0 >>> Depth 15 >>> EndSubSection >>> SubSection "Display" >>> Viewport 0 0 >>> Depth 16 >>> EndSubSection >>> SubSection "Display" >>> Viewport 0 0 >>> Depth 24 >>> EndSubSection >>> EndSection >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************************* >>> *** >>> ******************************************* >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> g. >> >> Update your ports tree. Current version of xorg is 6.9.0 >> >> -- >> Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love Unix >> ... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 15:39:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D882F16A580; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30A643D7B; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:38:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id C762D37EBC; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:38:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85B937E78; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:38:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dude.automatvapen.se (81-235-164-56-no21.tbcn.telia.com [81.235.164.56]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EC137E49; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:38:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: lopisaur@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1157632696.92392.14.camel@hellion.clcw> References: <1157632696.92392.14.camel@hellion.clcw> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:38:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1157643522.667.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: hp or Toshiba laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:39:05 -0000 On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 08:38 -0400, Christian Lopez de Castilla Wagner wrote: > Hi guys, > I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week, > due to budget, time and the fact that I'm near the end of civilization > right now, > I have the following choices: > Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG > (802.11a/b/g), Intel PRO/1000 VE 10/100/1000 Base-TX, FastIR, Intel > GMA950, Realtek ALC861 Audio, 5-in-1 cardreader, FireWire) > or > hp nx6320 (Same specs, except Broadcom NetLink Gig-Ethernet (BCM5788M) > and ADI1981HD audio, no cardreader). I'd go for the HP. I bought a HP nx7400 2 weeks ago (which has similar specs) and everything except sound and the wireless stuff seems to work. A Beta driver for the sound exists and it works well on my laptop, but it hasn't been committed to current yet. Dunno about the status of wireless support, but I heard rumors about a port of the wpi(4) driver from OpenBSD. -- Joel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 15:39:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51C116A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-142-072.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.142.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEA643D67 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:39:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-150.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.6/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k87FdLD6034727; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:39:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20060907103744.02674d30@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:40:02 -0500 To: VeeJay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, maanjee@gmail.com From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0609070617u6416ebc1l711ec6e163c89a44@mail.gmail.co m> References: <2cd0a0da0609070617u6416ebc1l711ec6e163c89a44@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Please Help AMD, mysql, FreeBSD 64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:39:57 -0000 You would do better posting to the mysql lists, as this isn't really related to the OS. I would suggest you use the command line utilities to load the records. I would first slice them into chunks not too big, then iterate through them. If the records are in some order, if you get an error, you can pickup where you left off. -Derek At 08:17 AM 9/7/2006, VeeJay wrote: >Hello > >Just wondering if I can get an advice from this forum? > >What kind of hardware i.e.(Processor, RAM) I need to accomplish following >jobs on a FreeBSD plateform: > >I have some mysql dumps around 2 GB each....with each record is 100 KB... > > >1. What is the best method to import them into a mysql database without >getting any "Out of Memory" Error? or freezing MySQL? > > >2. If I run a little Perl script and read a mysql record per iteration, how >can I avoid "illigle memory address" access errors? > > >Somebody talked about AMD 64 processor with FreeBSD 64 version, etc? > > >I will be really grateful for your kind advices/suggestions.... > >Regards > >VeeJay > > >-- >Thanks! > >BR / vj >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 15:46:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AAE16A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [63.240.77.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6493843D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:46:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from fuggle.veldy.net (c-69-180-171-46.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[69.180.171.46]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006090715461001100c9l12e>; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:46:10 +0000 Received: from fuggle.veldy.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuggle.veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007512DDCE; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:46:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuggle.veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5432DDB9; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:46:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <45003EC0.1020608@veldy.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:46:08 -0500 From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> <17664.5027.243777.190581@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45001C82.30200@web.de> <17664.10172.939032.620287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17664.10172.939032.620287@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:46:20 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > # make lpt0 available to CUPS > perm /dev/lpt0 0666 > > Doesn't seem to work. :-( > You need devfs_system_ruleset="system" in /etc/rc.conf Tom Veldhouse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 15:55:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C7B16A4E2 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc3-cmbg1-0-0-cust506.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [82.21.101.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65A643D5C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:55:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from danielby by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.63 #0) id 1GLMDg-000Arh-DQ by authid for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:55:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:55:12 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: FreeBSD Users Questions Message-ID: <20060907155512.GA33555@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Users Questions References: <0B52EB48-687D-4330-8B5A-54DBAEA305D5@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0B52EB48-687D-4330-8B5A-54DBAEA305D5@shire.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: danielby@slightlystrange.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on catflap.slightlystrange.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: need a restricted shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:55:28 -0000 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 02:55:25PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > I am looking for a shell that will allow Subversion to be run over =20 > ssh but not allow interactive login or if it allows interactive =20 > login, will only allow Subversion commands to be run... Any ideas on =20 > how to accomplish this? >=20 > I have been looking at various shell lists in ports but nothing =20 > popped out as obvious to me I have done this in the following way: Create a dedicated user, for example, svn. This user will own the repository. If you intend to allow "normal" users to access the repository from accounts on the server box, you'll need an svn group, as well. From your question, though, I get the impression this isn't what you intend, so I'll ignore that possibility. For each user, copy their public key to the svn user's =2Essh/authorized_keys file, prepending each one with: command=3D"/usr/local/bin/svnserve -t --tunnel-user=3Dusername -r /path/to/= your/repository/root",no-port-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,no-X11-forward= ing,no-pty Obviously, you'll need to put the appropriate user's name in place of username, above. It is used by the server to record who does what, so that there is no real need for each of your developers to have an account on the server. By specifying the command to be run with each key, you tell sshd not to allow any other type of activity, so there is no real need for a restricted shell. However, other suggestions about limiting which IP's can connect and which users (in this case, make sure svn is included in the list of username!), are valid. Each client will need to set up a new scheme for connecting to the svn account at the server box. Something like this in each developer's ~/.subversion/config should do the trick: [tunnels] mysvn =3D $MYSVN_SSH ssh -l svn If set, $MYSVN_SSH will be evaluated instead of running the ssh command. See the documentation for how this might be useful (I can't remember...) Now, in order to connect, your clients will need to specify the path to the repository like this: svn+mysvn://host.name/path/to/project If you have any clients who use TortoiseSVN, they will need to specify the scheme differently: svn+ssh://svn@host.name/path/to/project (Unless, of course, you can find some way for them to also use custom tunnels). It takes a little work to set up, but when it is running, it works well. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye PGP Key: http://www.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey-dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFAEDfixf5fBYiFmoRAo2tAJ9kpl+izDgQe0IdUgSzHBH7lniv0QCgng1d iKFmB87G9w5T3lM+1lds4PU= =noQg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 15:56:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F44A16A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1202B43D78 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:56:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k87FuaAx041904; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k87FuYk3041903; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:56:33 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20060907155633.GA41597@thought.org> References: <20060907023005.GA37358@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060907023005.GA37358@thought.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: acpi: bad read from port 0x71:: FreeBSD 6.1 /boot fault (solution) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:56:42 -0000 On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 07:30:05PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Does anybody know what to tweak in /boot/* to stop > "bad read/write" messages from/to the BIOS? [At least > so fare as I can tell? > > I've triied everything suggested on Google; rebooted, no-joy. > The BIOS is reset (AFAICT) to their fail-safe defaults, but > every 10 sec these errs get printed to stderr. > > I'd like to know what ... and *why* with 6.1, just out of the > blue! > I'm replying to my own post for anyone who runs into this problem and finds this in an archive. The solution is to take a clue from /boot/loader.help and drop hint.acpi.0.disable="1" into /boot/device.hints. reboot, and errors should disappear. Why this began with FBSD 6.1? No idea. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 16:05:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AED16A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poklib.org) Received: from c.mx.poklib.org (c.mx.poklib.org [64.72.87.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C8F43DC6 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:05:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bcook@poklib.org) Received: from [192.168.1.249] (helo=mail.poklib.org) by c.mx.poklib.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62; FreeBSD) (envelope-from ) id 1GLMNk-0001Sy-Kg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:05:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.218] by mail.poklib.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60; FreeBSD) (envelope-from ) id 1GLMNk-0004Rd-BK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:05:36 -0400 X-Virus-Check: ClamAV 0.88.3/1816 on c.mx.poklib.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:05:36 -0400 Message-ID: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:05:36 -0400 From: "B. Cook" Organization: Network Administrator - Adriance Memorial Library User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RcvHost: [192.168.1.218] X-RcvFor: X-Auth-Id: X-AntiVirus: No Virus Found X-MIME-Character-set: ISO-8859-1 Subject: ports/java/jdk15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:05:40 -0000 Hello All, Trying to build java 1.5.0 and it looks like it's needs linux java 1.4.2? is this right? ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.12 You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK self-extracting file for the Linux platform (j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin) from http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_12-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg, place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 16:20:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED4716A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralphellis@netscape.ca) Received: from smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com (smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE37943D79 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ralphellis@netscape.ca) Received: from [192.168.123.100] ([172.130.97.202]) by smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:20:23 -0700 From: Ralph Ellis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:19:45 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <2cd0a0da0609070617u6416ebc1l711ec6e163c89a44@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0609070617u6416ebc1l711ec6e163c89a44@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609071219.46086.ralphellis@netscape.ca> X-Rcpt-To: X-Country: US Subject: Re: Please Help AMD, mysql, FreeBSD 64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:20:28 -0000 On Thursday 07 September 2006 6:17 am, VeeJay wrote: > Hello > > Just wondering if I can get an advice from this forum? > > What kind of hardware i.e.(Processor, RAM) I need to accomplish following > jobs on a FreeBSD plateform: > > I have some mysql dumps around 2 GB each....with each record is 100 KB... > > > 1. What is the best method to import them into a mysql database without > getting any "Out of Memory" Error? or freezing MySQL? > > > 2. If I run a little Perl script and read a mysql record per iteration, how > can I avoid "illigle memory address" access errors? > > > Somebody talked about AMD 64 processor with FreeBSD 64 version, etc? > > > I will be really grateful for your kind advices/suggestions.... > > Regards > > VeeJay The big advantage to AMD64 is that you can address memory above 4gigs. Below that and performance is not dramatically different between AMD64 and i386. If you are going to have a server with 5gigs or more of memory, then you should benefit from AMD64. How much more memory you might want I don't know. You might get more help on that from MySQL users. Ralph Ellis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 16:25:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D7D16A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFE943D5C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:25:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D9A1CD7417; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:25:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.99.26.81] (helo=[10.0.0.11]) by smtp05.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1GLMhH-0002lZ-00; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:25:47 +0200 Message-ID: <4500480B.7010800@web.de> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:25:47 +0200 From: Jona Joachim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "B. Cook" References: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> In-Reply-To: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: jaj13@web.de X-Sender: jaj13@web.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/java/jdk15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:25:51 -0000 B. Cook wrote: > Hello All, > > Trying to build java 1.5.0 and it looks like it's needs linux java > 1.4.2? is this right? > > ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.12 You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK > self-extracting file for the Linux platform > (j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin) from > http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_12-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg, > place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15. Yes, that's right. jdk14 is needed to compile jdk15, welcome to the world of Java ;) Because of license issues you have to fetch the linux jdk14 binary as well as some distfiles required by jdk15 manually as indicated above. However you don't have to build jdk15 as there is an official FreeBSD binary available! See: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?44343C8E.2050707 Just install java/diablo-jdk15 and it will install the binary --jona From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 16:28:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1934116A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (auc31.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.10.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9AC43D4C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:28:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k87GSVKK064668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:28:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <450048A5.8050106@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:28:21 +0200 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060731) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "B. Cook" References: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> In-Reply-To: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1EA89DA98E7F884EF633B752" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1816/Thu Sep 7 04:29:36 2006 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/java/jdk15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:28:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1EA89DA98E7F884EF633B752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/09/2006 18:05, B. Cook wrote: > Hello All, >=20 > Trying to build java 1.5.0 and it looks like it's needs linux java > 1.4.2? is this right? Yes, jdk port needs java tools to build itself, it uses precompiled linux binary (linux-sun-jdk14) for the first time. Note you can use diablo-jdk15 or diablo-jre15 to get precompiled FreeBSD binaries. Regards, Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP: http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc --------------enig1EA89DA98E7F884EF633B752 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFAEivezeoPAwGIYsRCPYhAJ4+bJXRoSDJMqahxrf6jLcezTxsMwCfasI2 q7m3heajdH4xEx/IAd98jCM= =U72o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1EA89DA98E7F884EF633B752-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 16:30:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F1216A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poklib.org) Received: from c.mx.poklib.org (c.mx.poklib.org [64.72.87.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B5143D45 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bcook@poklib.org) Received: from [192.168.1.249] (helo=mail.poklib.org) by c.mx.poklib.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62; FreeBSD) (envelope-from ) id 1GLMlj-0004Nz-2k ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:30:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.218] by mail.poklib.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60; FreeBSD) (envelope-from ) id 1GLMli-000DJH-LF ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:30:22 -0400 X-Virus-Check: ClamAV 0.88.3/1816 on c.mx.poklib.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:30:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4500491E.4@poklib.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:30:22 -0400 From: "B. Cook" Organization: Network Administrator - Adriance Memorial Library User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jona Joachim References: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> <4500480B.7010800@web.de> In-Reply-To: <4500480B.7010800@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RcvHost: [192.168.1.218] X-RcvFor: X-Auth-Id: X-AntiVirus: No Virus Found X-MIME-Character-set: UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/java/jdk15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:30:24 -0000 Jona Joachim wrote: > B. Cook wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> Trying to build java 1.5.0 and it looks like it's needs linux java >> 1.4.2? is this right? >> >> ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.12 You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK >> self-extracting file for the Linux platform >> (j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin) from >> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_12-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg, >> place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15. > > Yes, that's right. jdk14 is needed to compile jdk15, welcome to the > world of Java ;) > Because of license issues you have to fetch the linux jdk14 binary as > well as some distfiles required by jdk15 manually as indicated above. > > However you don't have to build jdk15 as there is an official FreeBSD > binary available! > See: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?44343C8E.2050707 > > Just install java/diablo-jdk15 and it will install the binary > > --jona So if I just wanted a java binary.. I could also just install the java/diablo-jre15 :) (I'm trying that route.. ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 16:30:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD5716A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353E643D5D for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:30:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D42299C90E; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:30:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id d+EmIIWOUv8e; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:30:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-50635cb6.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.92.182]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2AF99C8B2; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:30:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4500491C.8090001@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:30:20 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_K=F6vesd=E1n?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "B. Cook" References: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> In-Reply-To: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/java/jdk15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:30:39 -0000 B. Cook wrote: > Hello All, > > Trying to build java 1.5.0 and it looks like it's needs linux java > 1.4.2? is this right? > > ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.12 You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK > self-extracting file for the Linux platform > (j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin) from > http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_12-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg, > place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15. Yes, it uses linux-jdk to build a native one from the sources. -- Cheers, Gabor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 16:58:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE66F16A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F97043D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:58:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Sep 2006 16:58:37 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (EHLO [192.168.2.5]) [62.59.173.176] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 07 Sep 2006 18:58:37 +0200 X-Authenticated: #25365336 Message-ID: <45004FC9.1060403@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:58:49 +0200 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060706) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Xfce 4.3.90.2 + Xorg 6.9.0 with Compositor == SUPER buggy ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:58:41 -0000 I recently decided to have some fun with the latest Xfce release ( or well; when I installed it it was, at the moment there is an RC1 ) and composite stuff. Allthough what I found out was that xfwm4 crashed when I enabled transparency for inactive windows and moved some aterms around. So my question was if someone else is running Xfce 4.4 beta and has the same problems ? And if someone has a solusion for it. I guess that the xorg port is the weakest link ATM. I can't imagine people actually using such composite settings when the wm crashes every 15 minutes ... so I asume it runs better with xorg7. So a sort of second question would be: is there an easy way of installing, but as important deinstalling, Xorg7 ? Thanks in advance, -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 17:06:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FAA16A4DE; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from piechota@argolis.org) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.192.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E5943D49; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:06:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from piechota@argolis.org) Received: from acropolis.argolis.org ([71.230.48.23]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20060907170616m1100q331be>; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:06:16 +0000 Received: from acropolis.argolis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acropolis.argolis.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k87H6EvW099714; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:06:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from piechota@argolis.org) Received: from localhost (piechota@localhost) by acropolis.argolis.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id k87H6Dcp099711; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:06:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from piechota@argolis.org) X-Authentication-Warning: acropolis.argolis.org: piechota owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:06:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Piechota To: Frank Steinborn In-Reply-To: <20060907122901.6205EB82C@shodan.nognu.de> Message-ID: <20060907125622.G3820@acropolis.argolis.org> References: <20060906210021.C2428B82C@shodan.nognu.de> <200609071019.46529.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <20060907122901.6205EB82C@shodan.nognu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: Re: Getting GELI Keys from Floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:06:18 -0000 On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Frank Steinborn wrote: > I could use /dev/fd0 directly but then I had to use the same key for > all 6 HDD's in the server. I got a solution by hacking /etc/rc.d/geli > - I'm just mounting the floppy there before it tries to read the key. You could read different parts of the floppy for different keys. Speaking of which, do the keys have any identifiable strings in them? If not, you could fill the floppy with random garbage and 'hide' the key. I'm assuming since you don't want a password you don't want the boot to require interaction so it's not that useful, but if nothing else it would help if someone got access to the floppy (remotely or by physical access). -- Matt Piechota From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 17:09:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA17E16A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mail.digitalfreaks.org (arbitor.digitalfreaks.org [216.151.95.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D532343D45 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:09:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix, from userid 1022) id 6AB7317DDC; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FA817DD9; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:49:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian A. Seklecki" X-X-Sender: lavalamp@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1150043830.3540.116.camel@compulsion> Message-ID: <20060907124923.J88388@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org> References: <1150043830.3540.116.camel@compulsion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: wmoran@collaborativefusion.com Subject: Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:09:14 -0000 On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > All: > > Does anyone have details about the new PERC 5/E SAS RAID controller Dell > is (or will soon be) shipping in the 1950/2950? > For the record, this is mfi(4). Yay! ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 17:17:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5702E16A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D2C43D4C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:17:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 31so205590huc for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:17:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ot8Jxb/lDvyfw3dr/Jk51EOTByBwodcVthAG2mFHf5Zvak7F4y9LJwRi4+J5TTxeNP9fm9q3SZ+wC+fwQqRXJCe57cJZ6T3ZpO5plx93wAZaI+llbS10lR4eFcPusc2fZ1uVoF+Zx2+VQrqpaYeGFs2z5Gc+jehH0IjEE7/dqtU= Received: by 10.66.221.6 with SMTP id t6mr569178ugg; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.106.17 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <226ae0c60609071017w1695f499p4d580aefc0a5b29b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:17:55 -0400 From: "David Robillard" To: "Jeff Rollin" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: LVM support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:17:58 -0000 > Hi list, > > I'm wondering whether FreeBSD is able to support reading (at least, but > preferably also writing) Linux LVM volumes? I have an itch to try FreeBSD on > a desktop but all my data is in a Linux LVM. > > Is it possible? I really have no idea if it works, but have you tried to export your LVM volume via NFS and then mount it on your FreeBSD machine? All what FreeBSD will see is an NFS volume which we all know work very well. Just an idea, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 17:34:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EFB16A4E1 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: from mail.shockergroup.com (mail.shockergroup.com [66.129.102.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9E143D80 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:33:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: (qmail 91445 invoked by uid 89); 7 Sep 2006 13:33:54 -0400 Received: from 196-29.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com (HELO ?192.168.2.6?) (tom@ierna.com@65.35.29.196) by mail.shockergroup.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2006 13:33:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> From: Tom Ierna Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:34:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:34:03 -0000 Hello, list. For the purposes of ease of software and hardware management, I'm attempting to run a set of PXE-booted Client machines as web/db or mail servers. The NFS/DHCP/YP servers are running on a 5.4-STABLE Server. I mostly followed the PXE guide when building these systems. All of the disk (except for swap) sits on the master Server (which has a bunch of external drive sleds), and all of the Client machines boot via Gig-E. Client machines are running 5.4-STABLE as well, but it is not compiled with the same kernel configuration as the master Server, as the hardware is slightly different. Client machines share userland with the Server. At the moment I have one Client machine running about 40 domains of web and db, with reasonably low traffic (less than 3Mbit/sec total) and one Client machine booted from the master Server, but not doing anything. Resource utilization on the master Server seems pretty low. Sporadically, there appear to be stalls on some locks with rpc.lockd. These lock stalls exhibit "interesting" behavior on the Client machines: Slots will fill up on Apache in the "W" state. SSH login attempts to the client machine (passwd files get some user data via YP) will hang and timeout. when I find a file (via Apache's extended status) which appears to be one of the stalled locks, and I attempt to do anything with the file via a shell on the client machine, such as "cat" it, that shell will become unresponsive. Any process which is stalled on one of these files cannot be killled. On the server, the only symptom I've witnessed is that rpc.lockd starts using a bit more proc than it usually does. Normal utilization is 0.0, and when the problem is happening, proc might go up to 3.0 or so. "cat"ing a file on the Server which appears stalled on the Client, works fine. A stop and start of nfslocking on the server seems to clear things up. Apache on the client will recover on its own, I'm guessing after each stalled lock reaches a timeout. I usually gracefully restart Apache, which forces the recovery to happen faster. As far as timing, it doesn't appear to be consistently periodic. It doesn't appear to be load related - I suffered through a Digg of one of the sites, and while the client machine served more bandwidth that couple of days than it had in a month, this particular problem did not occur. Over the past three months or so, this issue has probably cropped up three or four times. What can I do to troubleshoot this? I would like to add more client machines, but I can't until this problem is resolved. Changing OS builds at this point, unless absolutely necessary, is not something I want to do. Thanks for any insight! -- Tom Ierna President Shockergroup, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 17:40:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C4E16A534 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1D143D5D for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:40:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBBC1A4D87; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 994C951281; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:40:46 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Tom Ierna Message-ID: <20060907174045.GA29041@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:40:49 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:34:08PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote: > Hello, list. >=20 > For the purposes of ease of software and hardware management, I'm =20 > attempting to run a set of PXE-booted Client machines as web/db or =20 > mail servers. >=20 > The NFS/DHCP/YP servers are running on a 5.4-STABLE Server. I mostly =20 > followed the PXE guide when building these systems. >=20 > All of the disk (except for swap) sits on the master Server (which =20 > has a bunch of external drive sleds), and all of the Client machines =20 > boot via Gig-E. >=20 > Client machines are running 5.4-STABLE as well, but it is not =20 > compiled with the same kernel configuration as the master Server, as =20 > the hardware is slightly different. Client machines share userland =20 > with the Server. >=20 > At the moment I have one Client machine running about 40 domains of =20 > web and db, with reasonably low traffic (less than 3Mbit/sec total) =20 > and one Client machine booted from the master Server, but not doing =20 > anything. >=20 > Resource utilization on the master Server seems pretty low. >=20 > Sporadically, there appear to be stalls on some locks with rpc.lockd. =20 rpc.lockd is unreliable in all versions of FreeBSD (although it may be worse in 5.x), see the mailing list archives for extensive discussion of this. Try turning it off and using mount_nfs -L instead to fake the lock traffic (See the manpage). Kris --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFAFmdWry0BWjoQKURAi9IAJ47cF/wX6EBzdR0GFmjyhjv6eT9HQCfbbhF 0hugUtVKe0F7/JBrVE+EJuE= =5OZz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 17:44:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BB216A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF6C43D62 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout13/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k87HiIBx029121; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k87Hi7hP009965; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:44:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> References: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4A750B77-97BD-4433-BEC1-AA0B5377CCE6@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:44:05 -0700 To: Tom Ierna X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:44:22 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Tom Ierna wrote: > For the purposes of ease of software and hardware management, I'm > attempting to run a set of PXE-booted Client machines as web/db or > mail servers. It is perhaps reasonable to run a diskless webserver, especially if it is serving mainly dynamically generated content. Trying to run a database server or mail server without a disk strikes me as a very bad idea. I am surprised that rpc.lockd is holding up well enough to only go down about once a month; simply running the locking tests which come with sendmail used to be enough to cause rpc.lockd to crash... Best of luck, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 17:51:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E6516A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE81343D55 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:51:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so311647wxd for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FhmUVCUxy1bU32EBwgi8NweRxdG0ZZW1jRSPfq3KUb2Ilrj9J0CpdbkXSAtSj0xKPPVo0k80E8ngKCOYSCulKrYy6pqBrrWtsz0ZEhRA6KEP8+c2SXCDRbPrNX35QJZQN37ZzL7w1tZr19XSBpbpP4rH9ayjHlDxNOH5rlPJIes= Received: by 10.90.66.9 with SMTP id o9mr393360aga; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609071051j288526dav49d4b36ba16c12ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:51:17 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <226ae0c60609071017w1695f499p4d580aefc0a5b29b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <226ae0c60609071017w1695f499p4d580aefc0a5b29b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: LVM support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:51:19 -0000 On 07/09/06, David Robillard wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > I'm wondering whether FreeBSD is able to support reading (at least, but > > preferably also writing) Linux LVM volumes? I have an itch to try > FreeBSD on > > a desktop but all my data is in a Linux LVM. > > > > Is it possible? > > I really have no idea if it works, but have you tried to export your > LVM volume via NFS and then mount it on your FreeBSD machine? All what > FreeBSD will see is an NFS volume which we all know work very well. > > Just an idea, > > David > -- Yeah, I'm sure that would work - I already export most of my data via NFS anyway - except that the machine I was going to try it on is the one with the LVM data, thus I can't export it as NFS from Linux whilst FreeBSD is running on the bare hardware (or can I?). Thanks anyway. (FYI, the other machine I *could* try it on is a laptop; I actually did intend to use FreeBSD as the primary OS on it at one point, but had zero luck with either of the wifi cards (one internal, one cardbus - the cardbus one is there because the internal one also refuses to work in Linux) in it. A laptop with no network access isn't much good to me! :-( ) Jeff Rollin -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:01:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31B316A4E6 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93BA343D82 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:01:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 86666 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2006 18:01:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VN5MGo/rEAWXAroFnYkZuMCrKurKpEoaUPAI4qrBs0NyuL2WpitVqhx2nxQHU8qtl9IvAFSE6zmtYKdYvQ9TJtgqCCrb1wLAr9u4n66jmvvFkelY1fd25jxpwgh68djBPQf0hPf1VkdKU3Zjz5exagsIRViW2q+O25g8z9C0kXk= ; Message-ID: <20060907180105.86664.qmail@web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:01:05 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:01:05 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: White Hat , FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: <20060906155419.95441.qmail@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Freminlins Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:01:12 -0000 --- White Hat wrote: > --- Freminlins wrote: > > > On 06/09/06, White Hat > > wrote: > > > > > > I have > > > tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, > it > > is > > > just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is > not > > even > > > close. yeah cause most users want to use an MDI instead of a PDF (inside joke, anyone in the telecomm industry who does work for cell carriers or one in particular might get) > > > > > > True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... > > Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is > suitability to task. If it is free and it does not > work, what good is it? > "...but most users" only care about writing letters and resumes; openoffice does this fine. Even spits out a PDF for me to email away with a coversheet. And then there is always SunOffice... Since spending money seems to be the solution for all of the problems I have with windows and the lack of integrated features it contains. Maybe I should go out and get a Quad AMDx2 motherboard and fill it with FX series chips to handle XP being slower then Warp, but alas windows still has no real support for 64-bit chips. Oh and it sure would be a pain to have to reinstall EVERYTHING because the PNP windows machine won't let me switch a motherboard on it. > > He/she does > > > not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours > > in a > > > frustrating attempt to get it to run. > > if I buy a chain saw I take the time to read the manufacturers suggested method to adjust the chain tension. Maybe I'm not the normal person, but stuff never works out of the box, and not taking the time to read the manual is the users fault. and unlike windows products the online help for FreeBSD and GNU in general is incredible. Windows expects the use is an idiot and makes no attempt to explain how the command line switches work, or what registry keys do, or what the blue-screen-o-death errors refer to. > > > > This is where you are completely wrong. I work for > > an ISP. I'm not > > responsible for tech support but I keep my "ear to > > the ground". A VERY large > > number of callers have problems configuring > Outlook > > Express, for example. No > > matter what the polls say, the experience is often > > very different. They may > > not read the manuals (because they are no longer > > supplied), they just ring a > > call centre instead. > > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually > it > can be obtained for an additonal cost which I > suppose > is better than nothing. The same lack of > documentation > plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it > has been a boon for the after market book manual > publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so > called > help line assistants who are nothing more than > company > mouth pieces who have at most a superficial > knowledge > of the product that they are suppose to be assistant > a > customer with. I had the experience of talking with > a > customer support moron who tried to sell me a new > router while I attempted to explain the router was > fine, but the installation CD was defective. I > eventually just sent it back for a replacement. > Usually these individuals are barely equipped to > handle the job they are given. which is why If i spend 300 on a license for windows and 600 for a license for office I should get the manual. Online help is useless in the windows world. Nothing is more frustrating then having an error code thrown in windows and the help system not having any clue on what the error code is, but plenty of information about how simple setting this thing up is. Even more frustrating is the 15 chapters on how you click the mouse and use the start menu. > > However, you have made my point. If a user cannot > decipher how to configure a simple thing like > Outlook > Express, and there are programs available that will > do > it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable > of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the > mind > -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is > handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user > cannot configure something when it is simplified > down > to that level. I never thought the average user should have to set it all up. I'm working towards deploying the system amongst friends already configured becuase once it is it don't break, is easy to use, and lightyears faster. Make a PKzip of your windows install and try to copy it to another machine. It doesn't happen, but if someone took the time to setup FreeBSD they could copy it on a million machines, and the users would never be the wiser. Why can't I just zip up my windows machine and keep a tape ready to go? why should it be an ordeal to get it configured again. This is basically what Apple did with Mac, and if they would just release OS X on PC I wonder how fast the windows market would shrink. As projects like PCBSD and DesktopBSD advance it will be easier and easier to convince folks windows is NOT the only kid on the block. > > > The average user > > > does not care about configuring firewall, AV or > > > Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with > > perhaps > > > Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. > > > > > > That's one statement contradicting the other. > > How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run > them and case closed. Neither one requires any > significant configuration. The defaults work just > fine > for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy > since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, > but > I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. > > BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care' > program > suite, that might even obsolete that entire process. > I > don't think they will offer it with the OS though. > Too > much of a chance the government will protest. > Personally I believe a company should be allowed to > market its product anyway it wants without > government > intervention; however, that is entirely another > story. and I think a company should be stopped by the government for stealing code from a competitor or potential licensor, hence: alpha chipset support in NT4 and 3.5, and no SP5 for Windows 2000 and no real replacement for the aging NT beast. XP is a joke, slower, and annoying if you work in an environment constantly mapping network drives to the same letters... Not to mention security should be part of the OS. Why should a person spend 300 on a license to spend another 100 on the software that makes it secure. A recent article by "Information Week" Sept 4, 2006 edition; article "Windows After Vista": Microsoft itself admits it maybe should use a virtutal machine to support the old software and hardware so they can remove the old and slow capatability code from the protected system enviroment. hmm, it took em 10 years and thousands of exploits to figure out they should use a "jail" system to make the kernel faster and more secure by not allowing the old and flawed programs with exploits due to the hacks they used to make em work in the first place to talk to the system directly, nor be part of the kernel directly; What a concept. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:16:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE0716A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: from mail.shockergroup.com (mail.shockergroup.com [66.129.102.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58E543D6E for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:16:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: (qmail 97735 invoked by uid 89); 7 Sep 2006 14:16:22 -0400 Received: from 196-29.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com (HELO ?192.168.2.6?) (tom@ierna.com@65.35.29.196) by mail.shockergroup.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2006 14:16:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4A750B77-97BD-4433-BEC1-AA0B5377CCE6@mac.com> References: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> <4A750B77-97BD-4433-BEC1-AA0B5377CCE6@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: From: Tom Ierna Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:16:36 -0400 To: Chuck Swiger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:16:20 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Trying to run a database server or mail server without a disk > strikes me as a very bad idea. This is unfortunate - the "client" machines I have chosen have no front-panel disk sleds. Hardware administration will be a bear if they each have to have their own disks. Software-wise, I was hoping to have them all share a common Kernel and userland too, so I only have to update software in one place. > I am surprised that rpc.lockd is holding up well enough to only go > down about once a month; simply running the locking tests which > come with sendmail used to be enough to cause rpc.lockd to crash... I will be using qmail, when I get to that stage. qmail is supposed to be rather safe, even over NFS. > Best of luck, > -- > -Chuck Thanks, it sounds like you think I need it :) I'm open to suggestions on a better method of accomplishing my goals. Best, -Tom -- Tom Ierna President Shockergroup, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:17:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D8B16A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from gromit.dlib.vt.edu (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.49.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A90B43D62 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:17:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (pool-72-66-200-233.ronkva.east.verizon.net [72.66.200.233]) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k87IHVlF051255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:17:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k87IHUAM042302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:17:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: (from paul@localhost) by zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k87IHUGA042301; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:17:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) From: Paul Mather To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060907170628.8E30116A537@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20060907170628.8E30116A537@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:17:28 -0400 Message-Id: <1157653048.36687.8.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Greylist: Sender succeeded STARTTLS authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.49.29]); Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Robert Huff Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:17:39 -0000 On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:42:11 -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > rance@frontiernet.net writes: > > > anybody seen this behavior before? or have a clue? > > I don't know if this is your problem, but I have seen similar > issues. > _In my case_, CUPS as ported does not like the permissions on > /dev/lpt0*. They default to "crw-------"; setting them to > "crw-rw-rw-" makes the parallel printer appear. > There should be a way to tall devfs to change those > permissions > automatically, but I haven't been able to figure it out. > > > > Robert Huff I have this in my /etc/devfs.rules file on a system successfully using CUPS with a parallel port printer: [localrules=10] add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups (I also have 'devfs_system_ruleset="localrules"' in my /etc/rc.conf file.) That makes sure that CUPS can access the lpt* devices (including the lpt*.ctl devices). Mode 0660 also ensures that not everyone can access lpt*, just root and members of the cups group (i.e., CUPS). Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:20:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600B016A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF5C43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.5] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k87IKA2J044128 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <450062B4.7060001@enabled.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:19:32 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44FF4F7F.6030800@enabled.com> <44venzu4av.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44venzu4av.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: rc.firewall rule for passive FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:20:11 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Noah writes: > > >> what is a good rule to allow passive FTP to work. >> >> the following rules still blocks passive FTP. >> >> #/** Allow setup of FTP PASSIVE **/ >> ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from any to ${ip} 49152-65534 setup >> > > If the passive FTP client is on ${ip}, then that's the wrong > direction; it needs to be able to *send* the SYN. > the {$ip} refers to the IP address of rthe server. might you please help me rewrite this rule? Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:20:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6964916A4E2 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50A743D6E for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:20:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4871CE221E; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:20:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.99.26.81] (helo=[10.0.0.11]) by smtp06.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1GLOTp-0008B3-00; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:20:02 +0200 Message-ID: <450062D1.4040205@web.de> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:20:01 +0200 From: Jona Joachim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: White Hat References: <20060906155419.95441.qmail@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060906155419.95441.qmail@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: jaj13@web.de X-Sender: jaj13@web.de Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:20:30 -0000 White Hat wrote: > --- Freminlins wrote: > >> On 06/09/06, White Hat >> wrote: >>> I have >>> tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it >> is >>> just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not >> even >>> close. >> >> True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... > > Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is > suitability to task. If it is free and it does not > work, what good is it? What feature(s) exactly do you need that OpenOffice doesn't have? In what way is MS Office better concerning this (these) feature(s)? --jona From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:34:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9572916A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3733843D62 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:34:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 71779 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2006 18:34:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pUd4annlrjh8MW+kZ5jwFSH5F6ylYiqID9JwiZsiVpkmw8XHyC5F3cl+5COAmNhoXxETuviu7UR5FUX9LJtCvwR0GA6VUd81y6TWcgkIXa6nEjdPjbSfYiSR3kz3dJiDb+waYFBh9MQNNZ4RoEfKlk9VxQ+LNNQbBs0a2LFa4CM= ; Message-ID: <20060907183412.71777.qmail@web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:34:12 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:34:12 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: <20060906185449.41020.qmail@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: solaris X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:34:23 -0000 --- White Hat wrote: > > > > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. > > > > In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack. > > You are kidding right. I can find vastly more > documentation available for a win32 machine than for > FBSD. In fact, the lact of documentation is one of > the > reasons that support groups like this evolved. To my > great dismay, I am forced to search for and then > download documentation via the web. Even then, that > is > often dated. Not anyones fault, it is just the way > it > goes. > > > > The same lack of documentation > > > plagues every facet of software today. > > > > No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented. > > It is above average, I will agree. However, if it > were > really perfect then this forum would not exist. > No, it is forums like this that help improve the documentation in general. And hopefully give the basic outline when things are solved to allow documentation to be written. Just like Microsofts Forum for their MCSE people. > > > > However, you have made my point. > > > > No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You > > said " A very large > > majority of users simply want to use their PCs for > > email, occasional word > > processing and possible game playing." I am saying > > that using XP as you > > suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very > > large number of people. > > If that were true, MS would not rule 90+ percent of > the PCs in use today. if they didn't make OEM pc manufacturers sign contracts REQUIRING they distribute MS-DOS/Windows or loose their OEM status to deal microsoft products this number would likey be a lot smaller. Probably with Warp or Linux as its major competitor. >Why do you think users in > third > rate countries pirate MS when they could get FBSD > for > free? Doom3? Maybe just because they can make money doing it, that is the usual motivation for theifs. That and a license in a country like Argentina (per our Argentinian friends in the forum) costs on the order of $1000 US dollars. >I would not want to insult anyone; however, if > you cannot install an MS operating system then > perhaps > you should consider another hobby. Even my wife's > sister can handle that project, and that is a woman > who considers a can opener a high tech device. Installing is simple, making a restorable backup with included utilities of the whole system is next to impossible. Even with Sysinstall... Nothing more fun then having a Microsoft unintended installation fail, only to reboot and restart and having it magically work fine. > Please do me one favor, do not CC me. I am > continually > getting two copies of these. I subscribe to the > list. > I don't send you duplicate copies and therefore > would > appreciate the same cutesy. Perhaps my address was > already inserted by a previous poster. If so, please > do remove it. > > Thank You! your welcome I think, I did delete the CC... > > > -- > > White Hat > pigskin_referee@yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:40:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A20E16A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: from mail.shockergroup.com (mail.shockergroup.com [66.129.102.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F350343E0E for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:38:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: (qmail 97417 invoked by uid 89); 7 Sep 2006 14:12:13 -0400 Received: from 196-29.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com (HELO ?192.168.2.6?) (tom@ierna.com@65.35.29.196) by mail.shockergroup.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2006 14:12:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20060907174045.GA29041@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> <20060907174045.GA29041@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: <10AE94A7-D3F5-44C5-9ACE-B269168CFAD4@shockergroup.com> From: Tom Ierna Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:12:26 -0400 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:40:06 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:34:08PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote: >> >> Sporadically, there appear to be stalls on some locks with rpc.lockd. > > rpc.lockd is unreliable in all versions of FreeBSD (although it may be > worse in 5.x), see the mailing list archives for extensive discussion > of this. Try turning it off and using mount_nfs -L instead to fake > the lock traffic (See the manpage). Kris, Is there a way to note -L via fstab? Since these machines are PXE booted, unmounting and re-mounting with -L will be problematic, and I'd like them to inherit this property at reboot. Thanks, -Tom -- Tom Ierna President Shockergroup, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:42:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D1816A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22E343E94 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:39:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6891A4D88; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 233E9514AF; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:39:41 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Tom Ierna Message-ID: <20060907183941.GA29858@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> <20060907174045.GA29041@xor.obsecurity.org> <10AE94A7-D3F5-44C5-9ACE-B269168CFAD4@shockergroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10AE94A7-D3F5-44C5-9ACE-B269168CFAD4@shockergroup.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:42:12 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:12:26PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote: >=20 > On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:34:08PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote: > >> > >>Sporadically, there appear to be stalls on some locks with rpc.lockd. > > > >rpc.lockd is unreliable in all versions of FreeBSD (although it may be > >worse in 5.x), see the mailing list archives for extensive discussion > >of this. Try turning it off and using mount_nfs -L instead to fake > >the lock traffic (See the manpage). >=20 > Kris, >=20 > Is there a way to note -L via fstab? Since these machines are PXE =20 > booted, unmounting and re-mounting with -L will be problematic, and =20 > I'd like them to inherit this property at reboot. Yes, use the -o format, see the manpage. Kris --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFAGdtWry0BWjoQKURAuTXAKC95EhO6+QCXbNHWPGxVqvhlplIAwCdGIfb W4crbvfAg4w0UTVfIdw5UF0= =aR2T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 18:57:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4469716A4E5 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8D943D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:57:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k87Ivktu018613; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k87IvfLP015245; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> <4A750B77-97BD-4433-BEC1-AA0B5377CCE6@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0AB0F504-19DB-40D9-9525-8FB4BFABB788@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:57:40 -0700 To: Tom Ierna X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:57:48 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Tom Ierna wrote: > On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Trying to run a database server or mail server without a disk >> strikes me as a very bad idea. > > This is unfortunate - the "client" machines I have chosen have no > front-panel disk sleds. Hardware administration will be a bear if > they each have to have their own disks. Software-wise, I was hoping > to have them all share a common Kernel and userland too, so I only > have to update software in one place. I can see your reasoning, however, it's not especially difficult to keep many FreeBSD systems updated against a single machine configured to build out new versions of the kernel, userland, and installed ports when needed. [1] The thing is, software like mail servers and the database are usually I/O bound, not CPU-bound; when you get under enough load to matter, usually what you need to do is add more disk spindles and spread DB tables or logfiles or mailspool/queuedir locations amongst the extra disks. >> I am surprised that rpc.lockd is holding up well enough to only go >> down about once a month; simply running the locking tests which >> come with sendmail used to be enough to cause rpc.lockd to crash... > > I will be using qmail, when I get to that stage. qmail is supposed > to be rather safe, even over NFS. Yes, agreed-- qmail + maildir rather than mbox format is probably your best bet for doing operations over NFS. >> Best of luck, >> -- >> -Chuck > > Thanks, it sounds like you think I need it :) Well, yes. But I wouldn't be unhappy if you found something that works for your needs, even if it isn't what I would recommend myself. At least some of the time, I even learn things from people who configure things "strangely" from my perspective... > I'm open to suggestions on a better method of accomplishing my goals. [1]: Mount /usr/src & /usr/obj from the buildserver on each machine, do the update process, and then rsync over or mount /usr/ports/ packages, and use portupgrade or whatever to update or install from the precompiled packages. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 19:01:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B0616A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7664D43D69 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:01:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [172.24.241.5] (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k87J182R047611 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45006C4E.4060001@enabled.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:00:30 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: rc.firewall rule for passive FTP from FTP server side X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:01:11 -0000 It appears that FTP clients using FTP are not able to interact passively with my FTP server. I am wondering if there is a rule somebody could point me to that works rather well. ${ip} is the IP address fo the server (not the client). this does not work. ---- snip ---- #/** Allow setup of FTP PASSIVE **/ ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from ${ip} to any 1024-65534 keep-state ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from ${ip} to any 21 keep-state --- snip ---- cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 19:08:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B47E16A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hair@ctc.net) Received: from smtp2.mail.ctc.net (smtp2.mail.ctc.net [166.82.29.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9716543D6B for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hair@ctc.net) Received: from katie.ctc.net (katie.vnet.net [166.82.1.7]) by smtp2.mail.ctc.net (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k87J7rfP016088 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:07:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Hair To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Migrating from postfix to postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:08:02 -0000 Hello, the company I work for has decided to host web and mail internally instead of paying a hosting company. I have gotten freebsd set up and postfix and squirrelmail up and running. Is there a way to migrate saved messages from the old server to the new one? I tried simply stopping postfix on both servers, copy /var/mail/username and restart postfix, but the copied mail does not show up. Thanks. --Tommy Vielkanowitz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 19:23:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BDB16A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD0343D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E051A4D86; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C6D9A5135C; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:23:37 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Tom Ierna Message-ID: <20060907192337.GA30446@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> <20060907174045.GA29041@xor.obsecurity.org> <10AE94A7-D3F5-44C5-9ACE-B269168CFAD4@shockergroup.com> <20060907183941.GA29858@xor.obsecurity.org> <6AF68C1F-4366-4A52-882D-195AA137A5BC@shockergroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6AF68C1F-4366-4A52-882D-195AA137A5BC@shockergroup.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:23:40 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 03:19:51PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote: >=20 > On Sep 7, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:12:26PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote: > >>Is there a way to note -L via fstab? Since these machines are PXE > >>booted, unmounting and re-mounting with -L will be problematic, and > >>I'd like them to inherit this property at reboot. > > > >Yes, use the -o format, see the manpage. >=20 > Under the man page for mount_nfs, I have the following: >=20 > -o Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a =20 > comma sepa- > rated string of options. See the mount(8) man page for =20 > possible > options and their meanings. The following NFS specific =20 > options > are also available: > ... > Historic -o Options > ... > lockd Same as not specifying -L. > ... >=20 > It doesn't have any other reference to -L. Are mounts specified in =20 > fstab automatically non-locking, or is the man page incorrect? Prefixing with 'no' negates an option. Kris --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFAHG5Wry0BWjoQKURAnueAKCuzaiA6vivNCO8ikWhxaa5ed3wpQCg0n1Z /RlBiZVRuSVH03ZkCQKrqBw= =sjXa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 19:26:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A81616A4DE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: from mail.shockergroup.com (mail.shockergroup.com [66.129.102.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A11B43D80 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:26:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: (qmail 10849 invoked by uid 89); 7 Sep 2006 15:19:38 -0400 Received: from 196-29.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com (HELO ?192.168.2.6?) (tom@ierna.com@65.35.29.196) by mail.shockergroup.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 2006 15:19:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20060907183941.GA29858@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575-8A2F-9BD523AF117F@shockergroup.com> <20060907174045.GA29041@xor.obsecurity.org> <10AE94A7-D3F5-44C5-9ACE-B269168CFAD4@shockergroup.com> <20060907183941.GA29858@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: <6AF68C1F-4366-4A52-882D-195AA137A5BC@shockergroup.com> From: Tom Ierna Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:19:51 -0400 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:26:13 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:12:26PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote: >> Is there a way to note -L via fstab? Since these machines are PXE >> booted, unmounting and re-mounting with -L will be problematic, and >> I'd like them to inherit this property at reboot. > > Yes, use the -o format, see the manpage. Under the man page for mount_nfs, I have the following: -o Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a comma sepa- rated string of options. See the mount(8) man page for possible options and their meanings. The following NFS specific options are also available: ... Historic -o Options ... lockd Same as not specifying -L. ... It doesn't have any other reference to -L. Are mounts specified in fstab automatically non-locking, or is the man page incorrect? Thanks, -Tom -- Tom Ierna President Shockergroup, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 19:27:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA7C16A4E0 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D674A43D72 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:26:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:26:59 -0400 id 00056419.45007283.00010827 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Sep 2006 15:24:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:26:58 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Hair Message-Id: <20060907152658.cb60ecb9.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:27:00 -0000 In response to Hair : > > Hello, the company I work for has decided to host web and mail internally > instead of paying a hosting company. I have gotten freebsd set up and > postfix and squirrelmail up and running. Is there a way to migrate saved > messages from the old server to the new one? I tried simply stopping > postfix on both servers, copy /var/mail/username and restart postfix, but > the copied mail does not show up. Thanks. I assume from this that you're using mbox storage. Messages in the "inbox" are indeed in /var/mail/username, but messages in other folders (outbox, trash, etc) will usually be somewhere in the user's home directory, although this is dependent on what kind of IMAP server you use (which you didn't mention). -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. **************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. 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The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. **************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 19:37:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4044916A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFFB43D58 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:37:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k87JbG2E029372; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k87JbD8N003863; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:37:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:37:13 -0700 To: Hair X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:37:44 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Hair wrote: > Hello, the company I work for has decided to host web and mail > internally > instead of paying a hosting company. I have gotten freebsd set up and > postfix and squirrelmail up and running. Is there a way to migrate > saved > messages from the old server to the new one? I tried simply stopping > postfix on both servers, copy /var/mail/username and restart > postfix, but > the copied mail does not show up. Thanks. Of course, you realize that Postfix is only an MTA; you probably need something like an IMAP or POP3 server for most MUA's to access the stored email...? And if you have been using POP3 in the past, normally the email is kept on the local user machines and not on the mail server; in that case, you will have to upload the saved email from their local user machines back to the mailhost you are setting up. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 19:48:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E487216A4DA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.aeternal.net [212.232.17.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8C243D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:48:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A126B9CE; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:48:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JN8DEIf21+zE; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:48:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (chello089173023220.chello.sk [89.173.23.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA9DB98B; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:48:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <45007787.5070902@aeternal.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:48:23 +0200 From: Martin Hudec User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hair References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: corwin@aeternal.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:48:34 -0000 Hello, Hair wrote: > Hello, the company I work for has decided to host web and mail internally > instead of paying a hosting company. I have gotten freebsd set up and > postfix and squirrelmail up and running. Is there a way to migrate saved > messages from the old server to the new one? I tried simply stopping > postfix on both servers, copy /var/mail/username and restart postfix, but > the copied mail does not show up. Thanks. Check for mbox support in your pop3/imap service as it seems to me that you use mbox as mailformat. Also check access rights, check configuration of pop3/imap service (whatever software you use for this, like Courier, Dovecot etc.). Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 20:50:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7700116A4DA; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@juniper.net) Received: from borg.juniper.net (borg.juniper.net [207.17.137.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171E143D53; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:50:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@juniper.net) Received: from unknown (HELO alpha.jnpr.net) ([172.24.18.126]) by borg.juniper.net with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2006 13:48:50 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.08,226,1154934000"; d="scan'208"; a="586160668:sNHT28188292" Received: from [172.24.115.16] ([172.24.115.16]) by alpha.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:50:48 -0700 Message-ID: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:50:48 -0700 From: Josef Grosch Organization: Juniper Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060613) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2006 20:50:48.0566 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C336160:01C6D2BF] Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:50:49 -0000 Hello, I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share your kernel config file and/or advice. Thanks Josef -- FreeBSD 6.1 | Josef Grosch | You can't expect to wield supreme executive power jgrosch@juniper.net | just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 21:06:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17AE16A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC9B43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:06:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5ED1C5645B; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:44:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.99.26.81] (helo=[10.0.0.11]) by smtp07.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1GLMz3-0006v7-00; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:44:09 +0200 Message-ID: <45004C58.6060803@web.de> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:44:08 +0200 From: Jona Joachim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "B. Cook" References: <45004350.4050405@poklib.org> <4500480B.7010800@web.de> <4500491E.4@poklib.org> In-Reply-To: <4500491E.4@poklib.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: jaj13@web.de X-Sender: jaj13@web.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/java/jdk15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:06:38 -0000 B. Cook wrote: > Jona Joachim wrote: >> B. Cook wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>> Trying to build java 1.5.0 and it looks like it's needs linux java >>> 1.4.2? is this right? >>> >>> ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.12 You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK >>> self-extracting file for the Linux platform >>> (j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin) from >>> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_12-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg, >>> >>> place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15. >> >> Yes, that's right. jdk14 is needed to compile jdk15, welcome to the >> world of Java ;) >> Because of license issues you have to fetch the linux jdk14 binary as >> well as some distfiles required by jdk15 manually as indicated above. >> >> However you don't have to build jdk15 as there is an official FreeBSD >> binary available! >> See: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?44343C8E.2050707 >> >> Just install java/diablo-jdk15 and it will install the binary >> >> --jona > > So if I just wanted a java binary.. I could also just install the > java/diablo-jre15 That depends on what you need. The JRE (Java Runtime Environment) comes with the Java Virtual Machine and standard libraries: everything you need to run Java binaries. However, if you want to want to compile Java applications from source you will need the JDK (Java Development Kit) which comes with the JRE + the javac compiler and everything else you need to create Java bytecode. --jona From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 21:26:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D866016A4E0; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480BD43D79; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:26:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16205290C98; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:25:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06031-08; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62481290C6D; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:25:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D91505DC5E; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81785D75B; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Josef Grosch In-Reply-To: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> Message-ID: <20060907182533.D64655@ganymede.hub.org> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:26:03 -0000 On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Josef Grosch wrote: > > Hello, > > I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled > a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes > during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have > experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share your > kernel config file and/or advice. Have you tried a non-PAE kernel? If its a new unit, I imagine its 64bit, which, as far as I'm aware, doesn't require PAE ... ? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 21:34:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D2F16A4DF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6266D43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5A5DA559E; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:34:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web2.internal ([10.202.2.211]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:34:29 -0400 Received: by web2.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1A36256D3; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1157664869.20711.270398866@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: Kl9///L1QCn3eFaiacZEI5O0ibKmgKzG9btL1zx7hbFy 1157664869 From: "Jud" To: "Frank Staals" , questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <45004FC9.1060403@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <45004FC9.1060403@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:34:29 -0400 Cc: Subject: Re: Xfce 4.3.90.2 + Xorg 6.9.0 with Compositor == SUPER buggy ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:34:31 -0000 On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:58:49 +0200, "Frank Staals" said: > I recently decided to have some fun with the latest Xfce release ( or > well; when I installed it it was, at the moment there is an RC1 ) and > composite stuff. Allthough what I found out was that xfwm4 crashed when > I enabled transparency for inactive windows and moved some aterms > around. So my question was if someone else is running Xfce 4.4 beta and > has the same problems ? And if someone has a solusion for it. I guess > that the xorg port is the weakest link ATM. I can't imagine people > actually using such composite settings when the wm crashes every 15 > minutes ... so I asume it runs better with xorg7. So a sort of second > question would be: is there an easy way of installing, but as important > deinstalling, Xorg7 ? IIANM, Xorg 6.9 is exactly the same as 7.0, just packaged all together (6.9) rather than in separate modules (7.0). Thus I believe the assumption that installing 7.0 would improve matters is incorrect. FYI, RC1 without compositing enabled works flawlessly so far for me on -CURRENT. I'm running Xorg 6.9, portupgraded less than a week ago. Jud -- "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 21:45:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A814F16A4E5; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmiele@ipnstock.com) Received: from shanty.ipnstock.com (static-71-241-222-63.port.east.verizon.net [71.241.222.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A3C43D7D; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:45:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmiele@ipnstock.com) Received: from shanty.ipnstock.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shanty.ipnstock.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k87LixZq079351; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmiele@ipnstock.com) Received: from localhost (brad@localhost) by shanty.ipnstock.com (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k87LiusX079348; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmiele@ipnstock.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shanty.ipnstock.com: brad owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Miele X-X-Sender: brad@shanty.ipnstock.com To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <20060907182533.D64655@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <20060907173812.E2717@shanty.ipnstock.com> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> <20060907182533.D64655@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Josef Grosch Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:45:14 -0000 I have 2 new dl380/G5s which threw the Memory above 4G ignored errors unless i used a PAE kernel. my kernel config is below, the machine has been up and has had no trouble with portupgrade/buildworld, etc. but it is not in production yet either and i have not put a ton of stress on it. I have 6G ram, so not nearly as much. fwiw, here is my conf. I pretty much rolled the PAE config into my custom conf. The custom conf has as much as I possible could lose stripped out. machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident MYBOXYO # To make an SMP kernel, the next line is needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel # To make a PAE kernel, the next option is needed options PAE # Physical Address Extensions Kernel # for apache2 options ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP # Compile acpi in statically since the module isn't built properly. Most # machines which support large amounts of memory require acpi. device acpi # Don't build modules with this kernel config, since they are not built with # the correct options headers. makeoptions NO_MODULES=yes # What follows is a list of drivers that are normally in GENERIC, but either # don't work or are untested with PAE. Be very careful before enabling any # of these drivers. Drivers which use DMA and don't handle 64 bit physical # address properly may cause data corruption when used in a machine with more # than 4 gigabytes of memory. nodevice ahb nodevice amd nodevice sym nodevice trm nodevice adv nodevice adw nodevice aha nodevice aic nodevice bt nodevice ncv nodevice nsp nodevice stg nodevice asr nodevice dpt nodevice mly nodevice hptmv nodevice ida nodevice mlx nodevice pst nodevice agp nodevice de nodevice txp nodevice vx nodevice nve nodevice pcn nodevice sf nodevice sis nodevice ste nodevice tl nodevice tx nodevice vr nodevice wb nodevice cs nodevice ed nodevice ex nodevice ep nodevice fe nodevice ie nodevice lnc nodevice sn nodevice xe nodevice wlan nodevice wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support nodevice wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support nodevice wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support nodevice an nodevice ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's nodevice ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) nodevice ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath nodevice awi nodevice ral nodevice wi nodevice uhci nodevice ohci nodevice ehci nodevice usb nodevice ugen nodevice uhid nodevice ukbd nodevice ulpt nodevice umass nodevice ums nodevice ural nodevice urio nodevice uscanner nodevice aue nodevice axe nodevice cdce nodevice cue nodevice kue nodevice rue ##### makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking #options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters #device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* # RAID controllers # device ida # Compaq Smart RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device usb # USB Bus (required) Brad --------------------- Brad Miele VP Technology IPNStock.com 866 476 7862 x902 bmiele@ipnstock.com On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Josef Grosch wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> >> I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled a >> PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes during >> heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have experience with >> this sort of machine and would you care to share your kernel config file >> and/or advice. > > Have you tried a non-PAE kernel? If its a new unit, I imagine its 64bit, > which, as far as I'm aware, doesn't require PAE ... ? > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-proliant > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-proliant-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 7 23:58:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9020C16A4DD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 23:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4249343D49 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 23:58:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from g.one@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin04-en2 [10.13.10.149]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k87NwNv1017018 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.3] (cpe-065-191-021-225.nc.res.rr.com [65.191.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k87NwKew004250 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20060907062810.88CE.GERARD@seibercom.net> References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> <20060907062810.88CE.GERARD@seibercom.net> Message-Id: <15BD1FC1-101A-4965-8F2B-147BE2C944EE@mac.com> From: g Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:58:18 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:58:24 -0000 i'm sorry what is top posting? if it is offensive, i certainly don't mean to do it. thanks for the advise. g. On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote: > g wrote: > >> how do i do that? i'm a newbie. > > Well, for starters, try not top posting. > > Are you familiar with the process of updating the ports system either > with cvsup or portsnap? If not, read the man pages. If yu still have > questions, then check back here. I am assuming that you have never > updated the ports on your system. > > > -- > Gerard Seibert > gerard@seibercom.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 00:07:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DFB16A4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: from smtp105.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp105.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.52.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20D4C43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:07:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ke.han@redstarling.com) Received: (qmail 80580 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 00:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (ke.han@redstarling.com@218.79.215.253 with plain) by smtp105.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 00:07:16 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20060907124923.J88388@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org> References: <1150043830.3540.116.camel@compulsion> <20060907124923.J88388@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <09335E9A-54BA-4D94-A1F4-AB05D51C37DA@redstarling.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: ke han Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:07:06 +0800 To: "Brian A. Seklecki" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wmoran@collaborativefusion.com Subject: Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:07:17 -0000 On Sep 8, 2006, at 12:49 AM, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > >> All: >> >> Does anyone have details about the new PERC 5/E SAS RAID >> controller Dell >> is (or will soon be) shipping in the 1950/2950? >> > > For the record, this is mfi(4). Have you done an install of FreeBSD 6.1 on a 1950/2950? Does the install kernel automatically recognize RAID arrays you have setup with the PERC 5 bios? IOW, do I have to manually load some updated module outside of the default 6.1 install and config? thanks, ke han > > Yay! > > ~BAS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 00:07:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EE816A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:07:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDAB43D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:07:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k8808In1019453 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.214.13.96] (a17-214-13-96.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k8807tsP004085; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:07:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <15BD1FC1-101A-4965-8F2B-147BE2C944EE@mac.com> References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> <20060907062810.88CE.GERARD@seibercom.net> <15BD1FC1-101A-4965-8F2B-147BE2C944EE@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <571C4CB6-B571-41A8-93CD-91218B81D02E@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:07:54 -0700 To: g X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:07:58 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 4:58 PM, g wrote: > i'm sorry what is top posting? Compare: A: Putting the reply above the question. Q: What is top posting? ...to: Q: What is the preferred way to exchange email on the FreeBSD lists? A: Quote what you reply to [1], then put your response or answer afterwards. :-) > if it is offensive, i certainly don't mean to do it. No harm done. It's just much easier to follow conversations on the mailing list when people do not top-post. -- -Chuck [1]: And if there is a lot of content, trim all but a relevant paragraph or two, rather than quoting hundreds of lines in order to add a one-line statement. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 00:12:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE7D16A4E2 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@elaw.org) Received: from hermes.elaw.org (hermes.elaw.org [64.112.226.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8884743D49 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:12:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@elaw.org) Received: (qmail 14864 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 00:12:08 -0000 Received: from gw.elaw.org (HELO [192.168.0.12]) ([64.112.226.130]) (envelope-sender ) by hermes.elaw.org (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Sep 2006 00:12:08 -0000 Message-ID: <4500B557.8070501@elaw.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:12:07 -0700 From: Glenn Gillis Organization: E-LAW U.S. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070208020305090207030507" Subject: Strange processes left over from periodic daily X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:12:36 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070208020305090207030507 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040603080902020402010009" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040603080902020402010009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In attempting to track down some odd new sluggishness in my FreeBSD 4.11 mail server, I have run across some odd processes that seem to be hanging on from the daily periodic cron jobs. Attached are the output from "top" and "ps" showing these lingering processes. I learned from this list's archives that the angle brackets mean the process has been completely swapped out to disk, but I don't understand *why* there are so many daily periodic jobs hanging around. My other production FreeBSD box shows no such periodic jobs handing around (although it does have similar "" processes listed in top's output, belonging to Apache's rotatelogs utility.) Would anyone in the know be kind enough to explain why those cron processes might still hanging around, and if they are anything to be concerned about performance-wise? Thanks! Glenn Gillis glenn@elaw.org E-LAW U.S. Information Technology Manager Environmental Law Alliance Worldwide http://www.elaw.org --------------040603080902020402010009 Content-Type: text/plain; name="top.output.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="top.output.txt" last pid: 6673; load averages: 43.01, 40.96, 40.99 up 35+04:57:29 15:39:14 364 processes: 43 running, 315 sleeping, 6 zombie Mem: 275M Active, 70M Inact, 104M Wired, 18M Cache, 61M Buf, 32M Free Swap: 1008M Total, 356M Used, 652M Free, 35% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 70200 root 60 0 224K 100K RUN 31.0H 2.20% 2.20% mailwrapper 41000 root 61 0 912K 252K RUN 993:01 2.20% 2.20% mailwrapper 61495 root 60 0 228K 104K RUN 24.4H 2.10% 2.10% mailwrapper 17252 root 60 0 224K 100K RUN 708:43 2.10% 2.10% mailwrapper 53404 root 61 0 920K 452K RUN 67.2H 2.05% 2.05% mailwrapper 93538 root 60 0 940K 516K RUN 420:20 2.05% 2.05% mailwrapper 78591 root 60 0 924K 256K RUN 274:55 2.00% 2.00% mailwrapper 44775 root 60 0 924K 284K RUN 19:29 2.00% 2.00% mailwrapper 18812 root 60 0 224K 100K RUN 49.5H 1.95% 1.95% mailwrapper 65080 root 59 0 924K 248K RUN 33.6H 1.90% 1.90% mailwrapper 48579 root 60 0 924K 284K RUN 26.3H 1.90% 1.90% mailwrapper 82352 root 60 0 908K 268K RUN 321:58 1.90% 1.90% mailwrapper 79422 root 59 0 908K 324K RUN 44.3H 1.86% 1.86% mailwrapper 86807 root 60 0 912K 216K RUN 369:52 1.86% 1.86% mailwrapper 90057 root 60 0 908K 320K RUN 140:28 1.86% 1.86% mailwrapper 60282 root 60 0 256K 132K RUN 58:23 1.86% 1.86% mailwrapper 85543 root 59 0 924K 264K RUN 56.6H 1.76% 1.76% mailwrapper 63522 root 59 0 224K 100K RUN 28.5H 1.76% 1.76% mailwrapper 21402 root 59 0 908K 272K RUN 842:38 1.76% 1.76% mailwrapper 4006 root 59 0 924K 264K RUN 473:11 1.76% 1.76% mailwrapper 8553 root 58 0 924K 248K RUN 88.1H 1.66% 1.66% mailwrapper 67058 root 59 0 908K 372K RUN 98:30 1.66% 1.66% mailwrapper 26674 root 59 0 224K 100K RUN 914:54 1.61% 1.61% mailwrapper 14292 root 59 0 228K 104K RUN 773:21 1.61% 1.61% mailwrapper 58346 root 58 0 224K 100K RUN 586:45 1.61% 1.61% mailwrapper 28793 root 58 0 924K 264K RUN 528:57 1.61% 1.61% mailwrapper 61887 root 58 0 224K 100K RUN 17.9H 1.51% 1.51% mailwrapper 58426 root 58 0 256K 120K RUN 229:08 1.51% 1.51% mailwrapper 12092 root 58 0 908K 268K RUN 40.1H 1.46% 1.46% mailwrapper 39316 root 58 0 256K 128K RUN 36.7H 1.46% 1.46% mailwrapper 60949 root 59 0 224K 100K RUN 22.6H 1.46% 1.46% mailwrapper 70089 root 58 0 256K 112K RUN 20.9H 1.46% 1.46% mailwrapper 35020 root 58 0 924K 284K RUN 646:25 1.37% 1.37% mailwrapper 25457 root 58 0 920K 480K RUN 184:04 1.27% 1.27% mailwrapper 5107 sympa 10 0 384M 110M nanslp 66:27 1.22% 1.22% perl 72422 root 58 0 924K 284K RUN 19.4H 1.07% 1.07% mailwrapper 6639 jabber 59 0 2824K 2264K RUN 0:00 0.20% 0.10% perl 386 nut 2 0 1004K 516K select 64:35 0.00% 0.00% apcsmart 4672 mysql 2 0 30004K 3700K poll 49:17 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 5177 sympa 10 0 20328K 10344K nanslp 37:48 0.00% 0.00% perl 419 root 2 0 74572K 3796K poll 29:05 0.00% 0.00% slapd 28242 qmails 60 0 984K 536K RUN 24:34 0.00% 0.00% qmail-send 51440 bind 2 0 21720K 19756K select 13:33 0.00% 0.00% named 161 root 2 0 884K 200K poll 10:12 0.00% 0.00% supervise 189 httpd 2 0 29824K 19892K accept 8:36 0.00% 0.00% perl 229 jabber 2 0 5284K 1712K select 6:52 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 237 jabber 2 0 5076K 1072K select 5:23 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 239 jabber 2 0 5080K 1072K select 5:19 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 231 jabber 2 0 4536K 788K select 5:19 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 235 jabber 2 0 4252K 728K select 5:17 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 233 jabber 2 0 4252K 728K select 5:16 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 5130 sympa 10 0 29100K 15112K nanslp 5:00 0.00% 0.00% perl 23370 root 2 0 16620K 10832K select 4:29 0.00% 0.00% perl 396 nut 2 0 968K 328K select 4:19 0.00% 0.00% upsd 169 qmaill -6 0 904K 356K piperd 4:16 0.00% 0.00% multilog 5111 sympa 10 0 14048K 3844K nanslp 2:57 0.00% 0.00% perl 113 root 2 0 1336K 612K select 2:42 0.00% 0.00% ntpd 163 jabber -6 0 904K 356K piperd 2:41 0.00% 0.00% multilog 400 nut 28 0 956K 312K RUN 2:12 0.00% 0.00% upsmon 184 root 2 0 8944K 1832K select 2:03 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 3419 httpd 2 0 14612K 9004K select 1:44 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 10873 httpd 18 0 15120K 9344K lockf 1:41 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 151 root 10 0 924K 260K nanslp 1:39 0.00% 0.00% svscan 199 httpd 18 0 14984K 9520K lockf 1:28 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 200 httpd 18 0 15436K 9724K lockf 1:26 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 110 root 2 0 1020K 560K select 1:21 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 202 httpd 18 0 14956K 9424K lockf 1:21 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 28375 httpd 18 0 14500K 9296K lockf 0:50 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 59125 httpd 18 0 15156K 9348K lockf 0:38 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 173 qmaill -6 0 904K 356K piperd 0:37 0.00% 0.00% multilog 99362 httpd 18 0 14452K 8944K lockf 0:33 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 4664 httpd 18 0 13904K 8876K lockf 0:20 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 5474 httpd 18 0 13916K 8888K lockf 0:18 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 96806 vmail 2 0 2040K 1696K select 0:17 0.00% 0.00% imapd 76244 vmail 2 0 2104K 1760K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% imapd 28244 root 62 0 2064K 968K RUN 0:11 0.00% 0.00% qmail-lspawn 122 root 10 0 1036K 260K nanslp 0:11 0.00% 0.00% cron 98813 vmail 2 0 4064K 3720K select 0:10 0.00% 0.00% imapd 74855 vmail 2 0 1860K 1516K select 0:10 0.00% 0.00% imapd 28245 qmailr 2 0 960K 544K select 0:08 0.00% 0.00% qmail-rspawn 166 qmaill -6 0 904K 356K piperd 0:06 0.00% 0.00% multilog 402 nut 10 0 948K 308K nanslp 0:06 0.00% 0.00% upslog 127 root 2 0 2604K 348K select 0:05 0.00% 0.00% sshd 28246 qmailq -6 0 892K 436K piperd 0:05 0.00% 0.00% qmail-clean 87186 vmail 2 0 1548K 1204K select 0:04 0.00% 0.00% imapd 99573 vmail 2 0 2200K 1836K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% imapd 27722 qmaild 63 0 904K 412K RUN 0:03 0.00% 0.00% tcpserver 206 root 2 0 936K 240K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% couriertcpd 208 root -6 0 900K 408K piperd 0:02 0.00% 0.00% logger 165 qmaill -6 0 904K 356K piperd 0:01 0.00% 0.00% multilog 220 root 2 0 936K 240K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% couriertcpd 224 root -6 0 900K 408K piperd 0:01 0.00% 0.00% logger 27731 root 2 0 904K 416K accept 0:01 0.00% 0.00% tcpserver 6300 vmail 2 0 2580K 2232K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% imapd 194 root -6 0 4588K 556K piperd 0:01 0.00% 0.00% rotatelogs 188 httpd 2 0 8760K 252K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 5280 glenn 2 0 5300K 1716K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 6115 vmail 2 0 1628K 1284K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% imapd 87185 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 99572 root 2 0 2012K 1348K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 74852 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 96804 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 76243 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 6636 qscand 10 0 4852K 4324K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% perl 162 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 6634 qscand -6 0 4804K 4248K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% perl 153 root 2 0 884K 300K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 159 root 2 0 884K 300K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 160 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 155 root 2 0 884K 300K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 157 root 2 0 884K 300K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 98812 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 154 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 156 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 158 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 5281 glenn 10 0 1056K 756K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bash 2226 root 10 0 1056K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 6299 root 2 0 2012K 1380K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 27736 root 2 0 904K 416K accept 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcpserver 6114 root 2 0 2012K 1380K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 120 root 2 0 1088K 336K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% inetd 5089 root 2 0 2012K 1384K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 6470 root 2 0 2012K 1380K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 6671 root 29 0 2312K 1400K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top 5261 root 2 0 5300K 1596K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 5095 vmail 2 0 1092K 728K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% imapd 141 root 2 0 924K 0K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 6472 vmail 2 0 1092K 704K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% imapd 6633 qmaild 10 0 1876K 948K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5219 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5929 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5736 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 6016 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5536 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 6206 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5831 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 4651 root 10 0 656K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 6628 qmaild 10 0 1876K 948K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 58370 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 26589 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 61440 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 78443 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 125 root 2 0 980K 0K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 25181 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 60131 root 10 0 648K 264K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 66599 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 86668 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 3894 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 44679 root 10 0 648K 268K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 25175 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 58207 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 34929 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 72327 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 3888 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 58201 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 44686 root 10 0 672K 276K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 63472 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 72321 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 39262 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 5538 root -6 0 920K 452K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-inject 14235 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 61446 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 34923 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 93400 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 61789 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 93394 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 86674 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 5550 root -6 0 920K 452K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-inject 28744 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 69982 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 17170 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 65030 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 39268 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 21354 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 12044 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 26583 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 17164 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 60137 root 10 0 672K 272K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 40950 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 61795 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 90010 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 63466 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 48532 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 12050 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 60907 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 6500 qmaild 2 0 1876K 888K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 82273 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 58376 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 90016 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 28750 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 69988 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 14241 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 78451 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 65036 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 40956 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 21360 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 48538 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 5511 root -6 0 920K 452K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-inject 67556 root 3 0 960K 0K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 28163 root 3 0 960K 0K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% --------------040603080902020402010009 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ps.periodic.output.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ps.periodic.output.txt" [glenn@hermes:glenn]$ ps -waux | grep periodic > ps.periodic.output root 44738 0.0 0.1 640 260 ?? I 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 44687 0.0 0.1 648 268 ?? I 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 44686 0.0 0.1 672 276 ?? I 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 44679 0.0 0.1 648 268 ?? I 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 44678 0.0 0.0 628 248 ?? Is 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 60224 0.0 0.1 640 256 ?? I Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 60138 0.0 0.1 648 264 ?? I Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 60137 0.0 0.1 672 272 ?? I Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 60131 0.0 0.1 648 264 ?? I Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 60129 0.0 0.0 628 244 ?? Is Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 66943 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 66600 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 66599 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 90041 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 90017 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 90016 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 90010 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 90008 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 25334 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 25182 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 25181 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 25175 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 25173 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 58401 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 58377 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? 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Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rance@frontiernet.net) Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9044D43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:12:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rance@frontiernet.net) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.4.1 at filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Received: from localhost (webmail02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.101]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A4F3706D4 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:12:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Received: from 67-137-161-18.bras01.kea.ne.frontiernet.net (67-137-161-18.bras01.kea.ne.frontiernet.net [67.137.161.18]) by webmail.frontiernet.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:12:40 +0000 Message-ID: <20060908001240.4a2n88ezy6m8k8gg@webmail.frontiernet.net> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:12:40 +0000 From: "rance@frontiernet.net" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.5-cvs) Subject: "make config" display problem while installing samba3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:12:42 -0000 I've finally gotten around to adding samba3 to my home router box I cd'd into /usr/ports/net/samba3 and issued a make install clean and figured that would be the end of it. the options selection screen that comes up when you "make config" or try to install the port for the first time is broken for me. when the options configuration screen comes up the left hand column (where the option selection actually takes place) is not visible. the right hand column where the option descriptions is visible. moving down the list with the down arrow key I see each option visible one option at a time, and one line down from its description. when I arrow down the list to the next entry the entry above disappears. after arrowing all the way down the list, I arrowed back UP the list, and this time all options values stayed visible, and I could see the whole list, but I could not select (or deselect) any option. They were still one line down from the description. I tried to pkg_add samba3 but that wont work because ive already upgraded some of the packages samba depends on, so the pkg_add failed. I tried this on the ports tree of TWO different freebsd boxes. the ports tree version I'm using is samba 3.0.23c,1 Could someone give me a hand? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 00:16:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40A916A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CEE43D79 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:16:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so420155wxd for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:16:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EVrcZJX/8aTJ+1HsnKfz6pNkYN3iiWcPBD8pgN3a6fhwaAVo5fBAn964DkG6TukHZB0s1FZONHdkSeM4jd5s2S3zQWKvGK0la5nWyj76+PqWjNC9KWNNkjbBPYhxKw//CU3qhG6FCLFjam97/bbtwo3UFCsYvY2YT5rJ73Wfxqk= Received: by 10.90.51.17 with SMTP id y17mr498786agy; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.98.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260609071716r6506e7fcpaccb5dca0cd0dddf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:16:48 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Chuck Swiger" In-Reply-To: <571C4CB6-B571-41A8-93CD-91218B81D02E@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8E33A9EC-0BC3-4F51-9481-A1388B24583B@mac.com> <20060907062810.88CE.GERARD@seibercom.net> <15BD1FC1-101A-4965-8F2B-147BE2C944EE@mac.com> <571C4CB6-B571-41A8-93CD-91218B81D02E@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: g , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:16:53 -0000 On 08/09/06, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > On Sep 7, 2006, at 4:58 PM, g wrote: > > i'm sorry what is top posting? > > Compare: > > A: Putting the reply above the question. > Q: What is top posting? > > ...to: > > Q: What is the preferred way to exchange email on the FreeBSD lists? > A: Quote what you reply to [1], then put your response or answer > afterwards. > > :-) > > > if it is offensive, i certainly don't mean to do it. > > No harm done. > It's just much easier to follow conversations on the mailing list > when people do not top-post. > > -- > -Chuck > > [1]: And if there is a lot of content, trim all but a relevant > paragraph or two, > rather than quoting hundreds of lines in order to add a one-line > statement. Perhaps attempts should also be made to point out to new users that the people who answer FreeBSD lists (not that I'm singling out FreeBSD) answer questions and make suggestions without ceremony; and that though this practice may come off as "rudeness", it's often (hopefully never) meant that way. Jeff Rollin. -- Proud Linux user since 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 00:18:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AE716A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@elaw.org) Received: from hermes.elaw.org (hermes.elaw.org [64.112.226.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA8843D49 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@elaw.org) Received: (qmail 15465 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 00:18:16 -0000 Received: from gw.elaw.org (HELO [192.168.0.12]) ([64.112.226.130]) (envelope-sender ) by hermes.elaw.org (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Sep 2006 00:18:16 -0000 Message-ID: <4500B6C0.5010208@elaw.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:18:08 -0700 From: Glenn Gillis Organization: E-LAW U.S. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030609060704090302060504" Subject: Strange processes left over from periodic daily X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:18:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030609060704090302060504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Not sure what happened to the last copy of this message, but it looks like crap in the archive! G.] In attempting to track down some odd new sluggishness in my FreeBSD 4.11 mail server, I have run across some odd processes that seem to be hanging on from the daily periodic cron jobs. Attached are the output from "top" and "ps" showing these lingering processes. I learned from this list's archives that the angle brackets mean the process has been completely swapped out to disk, but I don't understand *why* there are so many daily periodic jobs hanging around. My other production FreeBSD box shows no such periodic jobs handing around (although it does have similar "" processes listed in top's output, belonging to Apache's rotatelogs utility.) Would anyone in the know be kind enough to explain why those cron processes might still hanging around, and if they are anything to be concerned about performance-wise? Thanks! Glenn Gillis glenn@elaw.org E-LAW U.S. Information Technology Manager Environmental Law Alliance Worldwide http://www.elaw.org --------------030609060704090302060504 Content-Type: text/plain; name="top.output.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="top.output.txt" last pid: 6673; load averages: 43.01, 40.96, 40.99 up 35+04:57:29 15:39:14 364 processes: 43 running, 315 sleeping, 6 zombie Mem: 275M Active, 70M Inact, 104M Wired, 18M Cache, 61M Buf, 32M Free Swap: 1008M Total, 356M Used, 652M Free, 35% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 70200 root 60 0 224K 100K RUN 31.0H 2.20% 2.20% mailwrapper 41000 root 61 0 912K 252K RUN 993:01 2.20% 2.20% mailwrapper 61495 root 60 0 228K 104K RUN 24.4H 2.10% 2.10% mailwrapper 17252 root 60 0 224K 100K RUN 708:43 2.10% 2.10% mailwrapper 53404 root 61 0 920K 452K RUN 67.2H 2.05% 2.05% mailwrapper 93538 root 60 0 940K 516K RUN 420:20 2.05% 2.05% mailwrapper 78591 root 60 0 924K 256K RUN 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root 59 0 228K 104K RUN 773:21 1.61% 1.61% mailwrapper 58346 root 58 0 224K 100K RUN 586:45 1.61% 1.61% mailwrapper 28793 root 58 0 924K 264K RUN 528:57 1.61% 1.61% mailwrapper 61887 root 58 0 224K 100K RUN 17.9H 1.51% 1.51% mailwrapper 58426 root 58 0 256K 120K RUN 229:08 1.51% 1.51% mailwrapper 12092 root 58 0 908K 268K RUN 40.1H 1.46% 1.46% mailwrapper 39316 root 58 0 256K 128K RUN 36.7H 1.46% 1.46% mailwrapper 60949 root 59 0 224K 100K RUN 22.6H 1.46% 1.46% mailwrapper 70089 root 58 0 256K 112K RUN 20.9H 1.46% 1.46% mailwrapper 35020 root 58 0 924K 284K RUN 646:25 1.37% 1.37% mailwrapper 25457 root 58 0 920K 480K RUN 184:04 1.27% 1.27% mailwrapper 5107 sympa 10 0 384M 110M nanslp 66:27 1.22% 1.22% perl 72422 root 58 0 924K 284K RUN 19.4H 1.07% 1.07% mailwrapper 6639 jabber 59 0 2824K 2264K RUN 0:00 0.20% 0.10% perl 386 nut 2 0 1004K 516K select 64:35 0.00% 0.00% apcsmart 4672 mysql 2 0 30004K 3700K poll 49:17 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 5177 sympa 10 0 20328K 10344K nanslp 37:48 0.00% 0.00% perl 419 root 2 0 74572K 3796K poll 29:05 0.00% 0.00% slapd 28242 qmails 60 0 984K 536K RUN 24:34 0.00% 0.00% qmail-send 51440 bind 2 0 21720K 19756K select 13:33 0.00% 0.00% named 161 root 2 0 884K 200K poll 10:12 0.00% 0.00% supervise 189 httpd 2 0 29824K 19892K accept 8:36 0.00% 0.00% perl 229 jabber 2 0 5284K 1712K select 6:52 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 237 jabber 2 0 5076K 1072K select 5:23 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 239 jabber 2 0 5080K 1072K select 5:19 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 231 jabber 2 0 4536K 788K select 5:19 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 235 jabber 2 0 4252K 728K select 5:17 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 233 jabber 2 0 4252K 728K select 5:16 0.00% 0.00% jabberd 5130 sympa 10 0 29100K 15112K nanslp 5:00 0.00% 0.00% perl 23370 root 2 0 16620K 10832K select 4:29 0.00% 0.00% perl 396 nut 2 0 968K 328K select 4:19 0.00% 0.00% upsd 169 qmaill -6 0 904K 356K piperd 4:16 0.00% 0.00% multilog 5111 sympa 10 0 14048K 3844K nanslp 2:57 0.00% 0.00% perl 113 root 2 0 1336K 612K select 2:42 0.00% 0.00% ntpd 163 jabber -6 0 904K 356K piperd 2:41 0.00% 0.00% multilog 400 nut 28 0 956K 312K RUN 2:12 0.00% 0.00% upsmon 184 root 2 0 8944K 1832K select 2:03 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 3419 httpd 2 0 14612K 9004K select 1:44 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 10873 httpd 18 0 15120K 9344K lockf 1:41 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 151 root 10 0 924K 260K nanslp 1:39 0.00% 0.00% svscan 199 httpd 18 0 14984K 9520K lockf 1:28 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 200 httpd 18 0 15436K 9724K lockf 1:26 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 110 root 2 0 1020K 560K select 1:21 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 202 httpd 18 0 14956K 9424K lockf 1:21 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 28375 httpd 18 0 14500K 9296K lockf 0:50 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 59125 httpd 18 0 15156K 9348K lockf 0:38 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 173 qmaill -6 0 904K 356K piperd 0:37 0.00% 0.00% multilog 99362 httpd 18 0 14452K 8944K lockf 0:33 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 4664 httpd 18 0 13904K 8876K lockf 0:20 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 5474 httpd 18 0 13916K 8888K lockf 0:18 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 96806 vmail 2 0 2040K 1696K select 0:17 0.00% 0.00% imapd 76244 vmail 2 0 2104K 1760K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% imapd 28244 root 62 0 2064K 968K RUN 0:11 0.00% 0.00% qmail-lspawn 122 root 10 0 1036K 260K nanslp 0:11 0.00% 0.00% cron 98813 vmail 2 0 4064K 3720K select 0:10 0.00% 0.00% imapd 74855 vmail 2 0 1860K 1516K select 0:10 0.00% 0.00% imapd 28245 qmailr 2 0 960K 544K select 0:08 0.00% 0.00% qmail-rspawn 166 qmaill -6 0 904K 356K piperd 0:06 0.00% 0.00% multilog 402 nut 10 0 948K 308K nanslp 0:06 0.00% 0.00% upslog 127 root 2 0 2604K 348K select 0:05 0.00% 0.00% sshd 28246 qmailq -6 0 892K 436K piperd 0:05 0.00% 0.00% qmail-clean 87186 vmail 2 0 1548K 1204K select 0:04 0.00% 0.00% imapd 99573 vmail 2 0 2200K 1836K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% imapd 27722 qmaild 63 0 904K 412K RUN 0:03 0.00% 0.00% tcpserver 206 root 2 0 936K 240K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% couriertcpd 208 root -6 0 900K 408K piperd 0:02 0.00% 0.00% logger 165 qmaill -6 0 904K 356K piperd 0:01 0.00% 0.00% multilog 220 root 2 0 936K 240K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% couriertcpd 224 root -6 0 900K 408K piperd 0:01 0.00% 0.00% logger 27731 root 2 0 904K 416K accept 0:01 0.00% 0.00% tcpserver 6300 vmail 2 0 2580K 2232K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% imapd 194 root -6 0 4588K 556K piperd 0:01 0.00% 0.00% rotatelogs 188 httpd 2 0 8760K 252K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% libhttpd.ep 5280 glenn 2 0 5300K 1716K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 6115 vmail 2 0 1628K 1284K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% imapd 87185 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 99572 root 2 0 2012K 1348K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 74852 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 96804 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 76243 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 6636 qscand 10 0 4852K 4324K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% perl 162 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 6634 qscand -6 0 4804K 4248K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% perl 153 root 2 0 884K 300K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 159 root 2 0 884K 300K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 160 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 155 root 2 0 884K 300K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 157 root 2 0 884K 300K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 98812 root 2 0 2012K 1332K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 154 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 156 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 158 root 2 0 884K 164K poll 0:00 0.00% 0.00% supervise 5281 glenn 10 0 1056K 756K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% bash 2226 root 10 0 1056K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 6299 root 2 0 2012K 1380K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 27736 root 2 0 904K 416K accept 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcpserver 6114 root 2 0 2012K 1380K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 120 root 2 0 1088K 336K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% inetd 5089 root 2 0 2012K 1384K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 6470 root 2 0 2012K 1380K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% couriertls 6671 root 29 0 2312K 1400K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top 5261 root 2 0 5300K 1596K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 5095 vmail 2 0 1092K 728K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% imapd 141 root 2 0 924K 0K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 6472 vmail 2 0 1092K 704K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% imapd 6633 qmaild 10 0 1876K 948K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5219 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5929 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5736 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 6016 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5536 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 6206 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 5831 qmaild 2 0 1876K 948K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 4651 root 10 0 656K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 6628 qmaild 10 0 1876K 948K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 58370 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 26589 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 61440 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 78443 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 125 root 2 0 980K 0K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 25181 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 60131 root 10 0 648K 264K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 66599 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 86668 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 3894 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 44679 root 10 0 648K 268K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 25175 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 58207 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 34929 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 72327 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 3888 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 58201 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 44686 root 10 0 672K 276K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 63472 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 72321 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 39262 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 5538 root -6 0 920K 452K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-inject 14235 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 61446 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 34923 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 93400 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 61789 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 93394 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 86674 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 5550 root -6 0 920K 452K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-inject 28744 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 69982 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 17170 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 65030 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 39268 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 21354 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 12044 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 26583 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 17164 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 60137 root 10 0 672K 272K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 40950 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 61795 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 90010 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 63466 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 48532 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 12050 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 60907 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 6500 qmaild 2 0 1876K 888K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-smtpd 82273 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 58376 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 90016 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 28750 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 69988 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 14241 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 78451 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 65036 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 40956 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 21360 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 48538 root 10 0 672K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 5511 root -6 0 920K 452K piperd 0:00 0.00% 0.00% qmail-inject 67556 root 3 0 960K 0K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 28163 root 3 0 960K 0K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% --------------030609060704090302060504 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ps.periodic.output.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ps.periodic.output.txt" [glenn@hermes:glenn]$ ps -waux | grep periodic > ps.periodic.output root 44738 0.0 0.1 640 260 ?? I 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 44687 0.0 0.1 648 268 ?? I 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 44686 0.0 0.1 672 276 ?? I 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 44679 0.0 0.1 648 268 ?? I 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 44678 0.0 0.0 628 248 ?? Is 3:01AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 60224 0.0 0.1 640 256 ?? I Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 60138 0.0 0.1 648 264 ?? I Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 60137 0.0 0.1 672 272 ?? I Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 60131 0.0 0.1 648 264 ?? I Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 60129 0.0 0.0 628 244 ?? Is Wed03AM 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 66943 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 66600 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 66599 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 90041 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 90017 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 90016 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 90010 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 90008 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 25334 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 25182 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 25181 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 25175 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 25173 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 58401 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 58377 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 58376 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 58370 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 58368 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 78480 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 78452 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 78451 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 78443 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 78441 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 82301 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 82274 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 82273 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 86760 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 86675 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 86674 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 86668 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 86665 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 93477 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 93401 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 93400 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 93394 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 93392 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 3942 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 3895 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 3894 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 3888 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 3886 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 28775 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 28751 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 28750 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 28744 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 28742 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 58285 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 58208 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 58207 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 58201 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 58199 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 34993 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 34930 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 34929 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 34923 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 34921 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 17217 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 17171 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 17170 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 17164 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 17162 0.0 0.0 628 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily root 14266 0.0 0.0 640 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat root 14242 0.0 0.0 648 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh - /usr/sbin/periodic daily root 14241 0.0 0.0 672 0 ?? 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IWs - 0:00.00 /bin/sh -c periodic daily --------------030609060704090302060504-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 00:33:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6E516A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097CE43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:33:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=a/vomifgXWWlWUkwIXOKws5eCL0tRYx9cwzFBo4wk75MrK5x/ZoWUJ/ABUkMgP3K; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.130.69] (helo=Wednesday) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GLUIh-0000mF-3N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:32:55 -0400 Message-ID: <04f301c6d2de$537ab080$0225a8c0@Wednesday> From: "jdow" To: References: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk><20060907000141.GA36761@thought.org> <45001A3B.70800@voidcaptain.com> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:32:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120a5f586f02752d8e0464e5e92f0296466d10a8cb42d4530e6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.130.69 Subject: Re: Efficacy vs. "friendliness" [Was: How to fix init -> /etc/ttys?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:33:04 -0000 From: "Pete Slagle" > Gary Kline wrote: > >> >> Anyway, this is to the entire list: A week or so ago >> I loaned my 5.3 set to a non-geek friend who had occasionally >> been using RH. He brought the box of discs back and said it >> was too hard to install; that RH had a much easier installation >> process. True. So I gave him my old Ubuntu boot disk. He's >> happy with it. ---I realize how much smaller the FBSD hacker >> base is.... Still, having a GUI-ish intro makes sense in >> gaining new converts. I'm still here because this Berkeley >> distro really *is* solid. One fatal trap in 11 years I >> can handle. >> < SOAPBOX> > > It's a test. If your friend thinks FreeBSD is difficult to install, then > he is probably better served by something else. There are many choices. > All is well. > > The idea that FreeBSD should be altered to better compete in a > popularity contest for new users comes up regularly on this list, but > that idea is suspect. > > Many FreeBSD users see it as a feature, an advantage, that no > "GUI-ish"-ness impedes access to the O/S. Which is not to say that the > GUI-ish stuff isn't available, but the beauty is that it isn't in the > way when you don't need or want it. > > Changing FreeBSD to be more "friendly" to new users would inevitably > make it less appealing to the experienced users who value concision, > efficiency, and direct control (who comprise it primary user base) and > thus is to be resisted. FedoraCore 5 certainly is easier to install. However, (due to a need for some sleep and food in there somewhere), the install and initial update is still churning along almost 20 hours after it started. Even on a DSL line a gigabyte of update takes quite awhile to install. And this is before I install any of the custom configuration needed to make it perform its particularly needed job. I noticed that FreeBSD 5.x was somewhat quicker than that to get up, running, and up to date. But it does require some intelligence to use it and bend your mind around the slight differences. It looks so similar at first glance there's little clue that you're learning a different "language". Of course there are the desktop BSD forks from FreeBSD that the fellow could consider. {^_^} Joanne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:10:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6455616A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFE143D68 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:10:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20B313A8A7 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-68-58-232-106.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.58.232.106]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1C11083BC5 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GLUsj-0007WA-00 for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:10:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:10:09 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20060908011009.GA28675@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 21:05:03 up 143 days, 22:08, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.12, 0.40 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: whowatch port not working on AMD64 machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:10:59 -0000 I'm having probelms with the whowatch port on my AMD64 6.1 machines. Does anyone know how I can make this work? I really use this tool a lot. -- Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:19:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E48F16A4DA; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B91643D77; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:19:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AAC1A3C1C; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C921A5135C; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:19:01 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Josef Grosch Message-ID: <20060908011901.GA37850@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:19:05 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:50:48PM -0700, Josef Grosch wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled= =20 > a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes=20 > during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have=20 > experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share your=20 > kernel config file and/or advice. A good place to start looking would be at the disk driver; is it listed in the "PAE" kernel config? If not, it's probably known not to work. kris --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFAMUFWry0BWjoQKURAtomAJ44vIMdJBycswbdasHSToNAjgIfnQCgiVtC H9HfBNDc0fI+TlP0JYIp2R4= =losI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:20:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AC416A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AAD43D80 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:20:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D731A3C1C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A9D68514F6; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:20:27 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20060908012027.GB37850@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060908011009.GA28675@teddy.fas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060908011009.GA28675@teddy.fas.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: whowatch port not working on AMD64 machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:20:41 -0000 --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 09:10:09PM -0400, stan wrote: > I'm having probelms with the whowatch port on my AMD64 6.1 machines. > Does anyone know how I can make this work? I really use this tool > a lot. Try talking to the developers of the software. Kris --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFAMVaWry0BWjoQKURAmU5AKDMfe/H4HI8nVT93mHbw8IAD/W1sQCgzcZf LrTWuyPmuxSesMkXu8nyU8w= =yLLO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:22:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4843B16A4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@voidcaptain.com) Received: from mx4.x15.net (mx4.x15.net [69.55.237.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93D643D86 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@voidcaptain.com) Received: from j1.x15.net [63.196.213.76] by mx4.x15.net with ESMTP id 608060222X1GLV4b000GSANm; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:22:25 +0000 Message-ID: <4500C5B3.2020801@voidcaptain.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:21:55 -0700 From: Pete Slagle MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jdow References: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk><20060907000141.GA36761@thought.org> <45001A3B.70800@voidcaptain.com> <04f301c6d2de$537ab080$0225a8c0@Wednesday> In-Reply-To: <04f301c6d2de$537ab080$0225a8c0@Wednesday> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 6.1 recommended instead of 5.x for new installations [was: Efficacy vs. "friendliness"] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:22:32 -0000 jdow wrote: > I noticed that FreeBSD 5.x was somewhat quicker than that to get up, > running, and up to date. I can't think of a good reason to use FreeBSD 5.x for a new installation; 6.1 contains so many reliability and performance improvements that it is the clear choice over 5.5. (Upgrades are of course a more complicated question.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:33:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6A116A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE65943D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:33:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GLVFN-000Fhx-CZ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:33:33 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20060907182533.D64655@ganymede.hub.org> References: <45008628.2000007@juniper.net> <20060907182533.D64655@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <80CFE0A1-37FE-4119-A9FA-783C230B04B0@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:33:17 -0600 To: Josef Grosch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:33:35 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Josef Grosch wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> >> I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I =20 >> compiled a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. =20 >> It crashes during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does =20 >> anyone have experience with this sort of machine and would you =20 >> care to share your kernel config file and/or advice. > > Have you tried a non-PAE kernel? If its a new unit, I imagine its =20 > 64bit, which, as far as I'm aware, doesn't require PAE ... ? I would second this. Try the amd64 version of FreeBSD (which also =20 supports the EMT64, or whatever it is called, Intel 64bit =20 processors). Based on HPs website, this is the possible processor list: Intel Xeon Processor 5160 =96 Dual core / 3.00 GHz / 1333MHz FSB Intel Xeon Processor 5150 =96 Dual core / 2.67 GHz / 1333MHz FSB Intel Xeon Processor 5140 =96 Dual core / 2.33 GHz / 1333MHz FSB Intel Xeon Processor 5130 =96 Dual core / 2.00 GHz / 1333MHz FSB Intel Xeon Processor 5120 =96 Dual core / 1.87 GHz / 1066MHz FSB Intel Xeon Processor 5110 =96 Dual core / 1.60 GHz / 1066MHz FSB Intel Xeon Processor 5080 =96 Dual core / 3.73 GHz / 1066MHz FSB Intel Xeon Processor 5060 =96 Dual core / 3.20 GHz / 1066MHz FSB Intel Xeon Processor 5050 =96 Dual core / 3.00 GHz / 667MHz FSB They all seem recent enough to have the 64bit extensions. Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:41:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9CD16A4E0 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE4943D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:41:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (pool-72-66-18-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.18.56]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k881fbbY023774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions From: Doug Hardie Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:41:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/1820/Thu Sep 7 17:42:26 2006 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: portconf port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:41:40 -0000 I have been trying to figure out how to configure portconf. The 3 examples given are not much help with complex ports. I am starting with the dspam port (mail/dspam) as if I can figure that one out the rest should be easy. I first tried to use the arguments from the configure command: mail/dspam: CONFIGURE_ARGS=--with-logdir=/var/log/dspam \ --with-dspam-home=/var/db/dspam \ --with-dspam-home-owner=root \ --with-dspam-home-group=mail \ --with-dspam-home-mode=0770 \ --with-dspam-owner=root \ --with-dspam-group=mail \ --enable-homedir \ --with-storage-driver=hash_drv \ --with-delivery-agent=/usr/sbin/sendmail \ --with-dspam-mode=4511 \ --prefix=/usr/local That still brought up the options selection menu. Hitting cancel on that caused the port to start to build, but it still tried to download mysql 5.0 which I don't want. The above configure command is how I normall build dspam - in the dspam directory. Then I tried to select the options from Makefile entering the options I wanted (haven't figured out how to sent the drectories though): mail/dspam: WITH SYSLOG | DEBUG | HASH USER_HOMEDIR | SENDMAIL | SENDMAIL_LDA That skips the options selection menu fine, but still tries to download mysql 5.0 which I don't want. I then tried to add the WITHOUT options: mail/dspam: WITH SYSLOG | DEBUG | HASH USER_HOMEDIR | SENDMAIL | SENDMAIL_LDA WITHOUT DAEMON | MYSQL50 | POSTGRESQL | SQLITE3 Same results. What am I doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:56:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49B216A4DF for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: from smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AB2643D4C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:56:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: (qmail 24397 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 01:56:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.57.168.66) by smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.17) with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2006 01:56:14 -0000 From: Joshua Lewis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:56:14 -0400 Message-Id: <1157680574.3025.2.camel@freebsd.ffnz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Thunderbird isntall error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:56:16 -0000 Can anyone tell me how Bind can cause a problem with my Thunderbird install? Should I remove the option that is causing the problem and reinstall Thunderbird? %make install clean ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for thunderbird-1.5.0.5 ===> Extracting for thunderbird-1.5.0.5 => MD5 Checksum OK for thunderbird-1.5.0.5-source.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for thunderbird-1.5.0.5-source.tar.bz2. ===> thunderbird-1.5.0.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found ===> Patching for thunderbird-1.5.0.5 ===> thunderbird-1.5.0.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for thunderbird-1.5.0.5 thunderbird-1.5.0.5: bind installed with PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND causes build problems. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 01:59:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112E916A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: from smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96FCD43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 01:59:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: (qmail 10524 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 01:59:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.57.168.66) by smtpout05-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.221) with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2006 01:59:43 -0000 From: Joshua Lewis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:59:44 -0400 Message-Id: <1157680784.3025.7.camel@freebsd.ffnz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD Shells X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:59:44 -0000 My shell mysteriously changed. I don't know what port changed the shell but how do I put it back to normal. I liked how when I was logged in or su'ed to root I had a prompt with the computer name and a hash sign. Now I have a percent sign and when I try to change the shell with chsh I can not get it to work anymore. I am doing chsh -s /bin/sh is that correct? Is that the default BSD shell? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 02:58:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F5816A4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 02:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5844143D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 02:58:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k882wRoA044992 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:58:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:58:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609072158.27673.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: trouble with a pair of bind9 servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 02:58:31 -0000 i have 2 servers im working with for a test im doing with bind9. a 6.1-p4, and a 5.5-p3. both have bind9-9.3.2.1 from ports, without "replace base version" checked. both are responding correctly for general lookups of hosts out on the internet, even based on the querying clients ip vs the acl on the zones. the trouble im having is, that my slave (5.5-p3) will not transfer the zone from the master (6.1-p4). my /var/log/messages is filled with these: Sep 7 21:50:24 fbsd55-2 named[1847]: exiting Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: starting BIND 9.3.2 -t /var/named -u bind Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:40: option 'allow-update' is not allowed in 'slave' zone 'dlptest.com' Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: command channel listening on ::1#953 Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: zone dlptest.com/IN/internal: has 0 SOA records Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: zone dlptest.com/IN/internal: has no NS records Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: running Sep 7 21:50:27 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: dumping master file: /etc/namedb/tmp-UZF5mCCxZP: open: permission denied Sep 7 21:50:27 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: transfer of 'dlptest.com/IN' from 192.168.125.91#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied Sep 7 21:51:20 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: dumping master file: /etc/namedb/tmp-SaWWYxV06u: open: permission denied Sep 7 21:51:20 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: transfer of 'dlptest.com/IN' from 192.168.125.91#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied this was giving me the impression that the bind user was not able to write to /var/named/etc/namedb, but every time i make a chmod or chown adjustment, it just gets changed back: fbsd55-2# /etc/rc.d/named restart Stopping named. etc/namedb changed user expected 0 found 53 modified Starting named. fbsd55-2# here are my 2 config files (first the master, then the slave) acl "dlpnets" { 192.168.125.64/26; 127.0.0.1; }; options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; listen-on { 192.168.125.91; 127.0.0.1; }; }; view "internal" { match-clients { dlpnets; }; recursion yes; zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "master/localhost.rev"; }; zone "dlptest.com" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/dlptest.com.i.hosts"; allow-transfer { any; }; also-notify { 192.168.125.91; }; notify yes; }; }; view "external" { match-clients { any; }; recursion no; zone "dlptest.com" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/dlptest.com.e.hosts"; }; }; (begin the slave named.conf) acl "dlpnets" { 192.168.125.0/26; 192.168.125.91; 127.0.0.1; }; options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; listen-on { 127.0.0.1; 192.168.125.93; }; }; view "internal" { match-clients { dlpnets; }; recursion yes; zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "master/localhost.rev"; }; zone "dlptest.com" { type slave; masters { 192.168.125.91; }; file "/etc/namedb/dlptest.com.i-slave.hosts"; transfer-source 192.168.125.93; allow-transfer { any; }; allow-update { 192.168.125.91; }; }; }; ive been dinking around with this for a few hours now, and im about to pull what little hair i have left out. can someone shed light on this for me please? any help at all would be much appreciated! cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 03:19:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857CC16A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 03:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228D543D53 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 03:19:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k883JQ3w065398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:19:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k883JP2h065394 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA04044; Thu, 7 Sep 06 20:09:45 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 06 20:09:45 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609080309.AA04044@pluto.rain.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OpenOffice build crashes the compiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:19:46 -0000 Anyone seen this and know how to get past it? Configuring out the failing component would be fine, if possible, since I really only need the word processor. Making: ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj g++-ooo -fmessage-length=0 -c -Os -fno-strict-aliasing -fvisibility=hidden -I. -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc/slsview -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/offuh -I../inc -I../../inc -I../../../../inc/pch -I../../../../inc -I../../../../unx/inc -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc -I. -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/external -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/unxfbsdi/inc -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/res -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc/Xp31 -I/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include -I/u! sr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include/ In file included from /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view/SlideSorterView.cxx:54: ../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx: In member function `void sd::DrawDocShell::SetSpecialProgress(SfxProgress*, Link*)': ../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx:189: warning: declaration of 'pProgress' shadows a member of 'this' g++-ooo: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report. See for instructions. dmake: Error code 1, while making '../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj' '---* tg_merge.mk *---' ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_instsetoo_native' '---* *---' *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 03:45:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8801016A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 03:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F9543D4C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 03:45:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so551721pye for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:45:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ecVUYKkMmRtDS2BQRd7nbpy+BWTVFmDq3b5whawXByEXRAps3aM7uka5z86RNrcaCHXThQxCH/lml1zGvW6RDPRyoolUHYrGfjlMfDryAZQI2zYmidhkDV246NyIjCFywsVxoPiD9o7Fifsf9zda/I92zi4vHLEEx19GYnppVUM= Received: by 10.65.38.7 with SMTP id q7mr1317777qbj; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.84.5 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 22:45:20 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Joshua Lewis" In-Reply-To: <1157680784.3025.7.camel@freebsd.ffnz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1157680784.3025.7.camel@freebsd.ffnz.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Shells X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:45:22 -0000 On 9/7/06, Joshua Lewis wrote: > My shell mysteriously changed. I don't know what port changed the shell > but how do I put it back to normal. I liked how when I was logged in or > su'ed to root I had a prompt with the computer name and a hash sign. Now > I have a percent sign and when I try to change the shell with chsh I can > not get it to work anymore. > > I am doing chsh -s /bin/sh is that correct? Is that the default BSD > shell? Percent sign would mean that you are still using csh, which is actually tcsh, if I am not mistaken. You can set your prompt with set prompt = '%m%# ' I do not know about the su situation. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 03:45:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E8A16A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 03:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED9643D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 03:45:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GLXJR-000Lbp-Na; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:45:53 -0600 In-Reply-To: <226ae0c60609070635n7e901beewa21f0757d2ab99ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <226ae0c60609070635n7e901beewa21f0757d2ab99ec@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 21:45:51 -0600 To: David Robillard X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: need a restricted shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:45:54 -0000 On Sep 7, 2006, at 7:35 AM, David Robillard wrote: >> I am looking for a shell that will allow Subversion to be run over >> ssh but not allow interactive login or if it allows interactive >> login, will only allow Subversion commands to be run... Any ideas >> on how to accomplish this? > > Hi Chad, > > You could install the shells/scponly port and build it with it's > chroot option. > (i.e. sudo make -DWITH_SCPONLY_CHROOT install) Don't run the `make > clean` just yet, because you will need the "setup_chroot.sh" script > which is inside the work/scponly- directory. Thanks to David and all who responded. I will give this a shot. Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 06:14:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E88E16A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1797C43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:14:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.66.115]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060908061420.GDFA22989.mta10.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net> for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 02:14:20 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 28684B6B5; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 02:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 02:14:26 -0400 From: Parv To: f-q Message-ID: <20060908061426.GB87811@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: hp or Toshiba laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:14:21 -0000 Sorry for using somebody else's reply to reply to OP as I had deleted the OP. in message <1157643522.667.6.camel@localhost>, wrote Joel Dahl thusly... > > On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 08:38 -0400, Christian Lopez de Castilla > Wagner wrote: > > > I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week ... > > Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless > > 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g) ... I happen to be currently using Toshiba Satellite A105-40xx (work computer), which cost around $800-900 from Circuit City or Best Buy (US chain stores). After few weeks of usage, the keyboard turns out to be rather crappy. When i type -- my typing speed is around 25 wpm & not much of a touch typist -- the keys (more likely the spring) whine as if they need lubrication & have become rather loose. On another Toshiba Satellite, about a year old (as overheard from a coworker; I used it for 2-3 months), Fn key has become so ridiculously loose it behaves like a loose leaf paper covering a sauce pan. So, be mindful of Tecra's keyboard. OTOH, two year old IBM Thinkpad T42's ($1600) keyboard is working wonderfully; five old Dell Inspiron 5000e's (a thousand some dollars at the time) keyboard is still better than above mentioned new Toshiba Satellite. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 07:57:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEEB16A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from rescomp.berkeley.edu (keyserver.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7C443D58 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:57:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ccowart@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 8BB565B786; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:57:17 -0700 From: Christopher Cowart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060908075717.GC4139@rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: isc-dhcpd.sh rc script and jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:57:18 -0000 --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, The port for isc-dhcp3-server has config options for enabling FreeBSD process jails. Basically, through a series of command line arguments that are generated by the isc-dhcpd.sh script, the chroot is auto-generated when you start the service and dhcpd makes the syscall to jail itself. This is actually really nifty and makes the process of running dhcpd in a thin jail brainless. The problem happens when I run "isc-dhcpd.sh stop":=20 dhcpd not running? (check /var/jails/dhcpd/var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid). Well, I know better. dhcpd is clearly running with the pid indicated in the pid file. After investigating /etc/rc.subr, I've determined the cause (where $JID is the jid of the running rc script and $_jid is the jid of the process, determined by ps output): if [ "$JID" -eq "$_jid" ]; Therefore, I cannot run isc-dhcpd.sh stop on the host system. However, given that I'm using a thin jail, I can't just log in to the jail to call the rc script. Further, the rc script was written to be called from the host machine. My question is how do I get around this? I'd prefer not to hack rc.subr unless it's a community-useable patch that can be incorporated back into the official sources. One option would be to allow rc scripts to set some sort of "CHECK_JAILS" variable and to implement the necessary logic to handle it in rc.subr. Is there a better solution? --=20 Chris Cowart Unix Systems Administrator Residential Computing, UC Berkeley "May all your pushes be popped" --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFASJdV3SOqjnqPh0RArWXAJ9Dt6bw1I/ozxZYNBUovkDcpQ8CPQCeMOUr 9J6BUuZ7/z+gnA5FmhStz24= =d2Is -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 08:27:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8B916A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from riemer@palstra.com) Received: from palstra.com (palstra.com [82.201.5.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAB943D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:27:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from riemer@palstra.com) Received: from riemer by palstra.com with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GLbiE-000CzX-3o; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:27:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:27:45 +0200 From: Riemer Palstra To: ke han Message-ID: <20060908082745.GC71602@rb1.palstra.com> References: <1150043830.3540.116.camel@compulsion> <20060907124923.J88388@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org> <09335E9A-54BA-4D94-A1F4-AB05D51C37DA@redstarling.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <09335E9A-54BA-4D94-A1F4-AB05D51C37DA@redstarling.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "Brian A. Seklecki" , wmoran@collaborativefusion.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:27:50 -0000 On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:07:06AM +0800, ke han wrote: > Have you done an install of FreeBSD 6.1 on a 1950/2950? Yes, 1950. > Does the install kernel automatically recognize RAID arrays you have > setup with the PERC 5 bios? Yes. mfi0: mem 0xd80f0000-0xd80fffff,0xfc4e0000-0xfc4fffff irq 78 at device 14.0 on pci2 [ ... ] mfid0: on mfi0 mfid0: 69375MB (142082047 sectors) RAID -- Riemer Palstra Amsterdam, The Netherlands riemer@palstra.com http://www.palstra.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 08:36:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6896316A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from mail.callooh.com (chello062178170039.13.14.vie.surfer.at [62.178.170.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B472043D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:36:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from jadzia.intern.creative.co.at (fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by lyekka.home.callooh.com (8.13.8/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k87ETeSa066484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:29:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:29:40 +0200 From: tequnix@frogmi.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060907162940.7aa65884@jadzia.intern.creative.co.at> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1816/Thu Sep 7 04:29:36 2006 on lyekka.home.callooh.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on lyekka.home.callooh.com X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (lyekka.home.callooh.com [62.178.170.39]); Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:29:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: what means: sockstat: sysctl(): No such process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:36:34 -0000 hallo list while running [ $(sockstat | grep -c saslauthd) -gt 90 ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/saslauthd restart via cron (/etc/crontab, as root) (why i do this is of no importance for this question), i get from time to time - about 3-4 times a day, cronjob runs every 11 minutes - the message: sockstat: sysctl(): No such process i do not understand why i get this only sometimes, and what this exactly means. i hope someone can help me and explain this behaviour thanks, reinhard -- What sane person could live in this world and not be crazy? -- Ursula K. LeGuin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 09:38:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1F516A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fedya@zenon.net) Received: from mp.zenon.net (mp.zenon.net [195.2.72.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEED43D70 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:38:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fedya@zenon.net) Received: from [192.168.13.67] (HELO [192.168.13.67]) by mp.zenon.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with ESMTP id 10757400; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:38:15 +0400 Message-ID: <45013A07.20609@zenon.net> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:38:15 +0400 From: Feodor Trubetskoy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060731) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Long References: <20060728213154.GA63725@ns.museum.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <20060728213154.GA63725@ns.museum.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsnmpd: send: Connection refused X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 09:38:21 -0000 On 29.07.2006 01:31, James Long wrote: > traphost := localhost > trapport := 162 > When I start bsnmpd, I get > > # /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd start > Starting bsnmpd. > snmpd[5474]: send: Connection refused > ^C# > > What is causing the "Connection refused" message? Probably the reason of the message is that bsnmpd fails to send a trap to localhost port 162 when it starts. -- Feodor Trubetskoy. Zenon N.S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 12:04:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7C916A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whatawonderfulworldweliveintoo@yahoo.com) Received: from web58403.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58403.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6294543D78 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:04:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from whatawonderfulworldweliveintoo@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 726 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2006 12:04:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cUalrnTg/an0qdWj2IB0Qa4NsobDVBIacibn4sjHyuH5JdiTmQn7m1lLAQo8Yh0BVqgGF7pRP4KMH2nndHyShBxgITHr8hGLlmUSCBhzfmXeStwSyr5YZxTmfiBRuLJgLWVqmxmKvVcCBK6fmH3jbSfRIocJ5nDY2F7m41zah/U= ; Message-ID: <20060908120438.724.qmail@web58403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.19.14.21] by web58403.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 05:04:38 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:04:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Hell Installing OpenLDAP/Berkeley-DB/Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:04:50 -0000 Hi; I tried to install OpenLDAP, but it needs Berkeley-DB and complained that the version installed was incompatible. I tried compiling it without Berkeley (using GNU instead) but it wouldn't. I tried installing Berkeley DB without Java (for simplicity's sake), but that didn't work. I tried moving that installation to where the ports would be but still no go. So I tried a make of the berkeley-db port but that complained it needed a Java plug-in that had to be loaded manually because of licensing restrictions. So I went to the page it stated, agreed to the license, downloaded it and tried to install: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/cgi-bin/download?download=diablo-caffe-freebsd6-i386-1.5.0_07-b00.tar.bz2 I un-bzip2'd it, then untarred it, then entered it and unzipped the sun.zip file, and now I'm lost. There are no instructions! There's a README.html file which told me to go to this page: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/install.html but there's nothing of substance there. It only tells one how to install Linux binaries or RPMs, but I'm having to install from source. Good grief! Has anyone been through this crap before? What do I do? TIA, beno2 --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 13:10:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E96816A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lassee@kth.se) Received: from swip.net (mailfe07.swip.net [212.247.154.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644D043D62 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:10:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lassee@kth.se) X-T2-Posting-ID: mXCZg4px3MfsRJ0lniN8dw== X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Received: from [213.100.59.183] ([213.100.59.183] verified) by mailfe07.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 276250105 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:10:22 +0200 Message-ID: <45016BBC.8080803@kth.se> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:10:20 +0200 From: Lasse Edlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lassee@kth.se List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:10:27 -0000 If I have two files "foo" and "bar" and try to run diff on them I write: $diff foo bar I can also write $cat foo | diff - bar But how do I give a program two (2) commands? not only to diff but to any program that wants double input... I wanna do $cat foo | cat bar | diff - - especially with echo commands that would be handy so I dont have to create files! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 13:16:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E7B16A4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from gabby.gsicomp.on.ca (CPE00062566c7bb-CM0011e6ede298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.28.254.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C5E43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabby.gsicomp.on.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B96960FA; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown by localhost (amavisd-new, unix socket) id client-bOf1VhcU; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by gabby.gsicomp.on.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FECC60F6; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005401c6d349$3897bea0$0000fea9@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: , References: <45016BBC.8080803@kth.se> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:18:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gsicomp.on.ca Cc: Subject: Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:16:35 -0000 > If I have two files "foo" and "bar" and try to run diff on them I write: > $diff foo bar > I can also write > $cat foo | diff - bar > But how do I give a program two (2) commands? not only to diff > but to any program that wants double input... > I wanna do > $cat foo | cat bar | diff - - > especially with echo commands that would be handy so I dont have to > create files! You don't. Recall that | is the "pipe" operator, and like in real life, there's one input and one output. Pipes used on the command line are for all intents and purposes "unnamed", and you can only build up one "pipeline". That's why named pipes were invented, so that you could have multiple pipes and refer to them by name (instead of implicitly). But in your case, using named pipes is really no different than using files. -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:07:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7D116A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F224243D49 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:07:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 88749 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2006 14:07:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=usJ8dUZ6xD5lbsXY2MrIxJ2GQMkzPQPqPw+aqsjz/ZRJKnoX+/l7XRdh4R6DOLIRv4DZSnxJgGcCMs4j9dCvpuCFBiL31OKuaTPOP3idzi+oqym7b58rRjPiSmLMbWdb3G/vKg+B+fQ6IonsEitZjFv0zNztklB81L3nDCDQY9s= ; Message-ID: <20060908140709.88747.qmail@web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:07:09 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:07:09 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: Perry Hutchison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <10609080309.AA04044@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: OpenOffice build crashes the compiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:07:10 -0000 --- Perry Hutchison wrote: > Anyone seen this and know how to get past it? > Configuring out the failing component would be fine, > if possible, since I really only need the word > processor. > > Making: > ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj > g++-ooo -fmessage-length=0 -c -Os > -fno-strict-aliasing -fvisibility=hidden -I. > -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc/slsview > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/offuh > -I../inc -I../../inc -I../../../../inc/pch > -I../../../../inc -I../../../../unx/inc > -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc -I. > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/external > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/unxfbsdi/inc > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/res > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl > -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc/Xp31 > -I/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include -I/u! > sr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include/ > In file included from > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view/SlideSorterView.cxx:54: > ../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx: In member function `void > sd::DrawDocShell::SetSpecialProgress(SfxProgress*, > Link*)': > ../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx:189: warning: declaration > of 'pProgress' shadows a member of 'this' > g++-ooo: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) > Please submit a full bug report. > See for > instructions. > dmake: Error code 1, while making > '../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj' > '---* tg_merge.mk *---' > > ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view > dmake: Error code 1, while making > 'build_instsetoo_native' > '---* *---' > *** Error code 255 > > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2005-March/021822.html is an old link but has a patch. http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2003-10/msg02538.php sugests some missing symlinks might be the culprit. Please let me know is either of these resolve the isses, I'm looking to get OpenOffice built this weekend after I update my basic system... Both of these reference that Error 65280 some answers also suggest you might be running out of space in the build directory. You'll need at least 1.8G to build Openoffice (/usr/ports); I say at least because when I built it for Gentoo on my P4 it used up more like 5G and took 8-10 hours to build. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:18:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868CF16A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83106.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83106.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D5BD43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:18:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8316 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2006 14:18:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dQomKZ2gOAJpxWVPAsA62a48GTPpuj7a4mHheWKfBhzgrRT0HTW+nbip+mVpHYinlJrfRrlSy1GlO3w6ugLlrPHABVUUbIld1NqPCP1zssqc6kbr05tiS85YOSujzDJO4tQmpLy3+c97G2vttSIUAYodmoDdFStUweujmUjWHTw= ; Message-ID: <20060908141810.8314.qmail@web83106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83106.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:18:10 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:18:10 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: lassee@kth.se, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45016BBC.8080803@kth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:18:11 -0000 --- Lasse Edlund wrote: > If I have two files "foo" and "bar" and try to run > diff on them I write: > $diff foo bar > I can also write > $cat foo | diff - bar > But how do I give a program two (2) commands? not > only to diff > but to any program that wants double input... > I wanna do > $cat foo | cat bar | diff - - > especially with echo commands that would be handy so > I dont have to > create files! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > diff foo bar is the the way a contruct like (cat foo; cat bar| diff - -) may work but I doubt it because they both are writing to the same STDOUT and so "- -" is more then likely invalid. (echo "random junkola" > foo) && (cat foo > bar) or (echo "random junkola" > foo) && (cp foo bar) would be just as good. would echo the same thing to two files. I think what you want might be diff `cat foo` `cat bar` which is the the quote on the tilde key. check man eval if I'm using the right quote this will evaluate the command in the ` ` and pass its STDOUT as a parameter. For large files this might fail because of the limitation to the command line length, I'm not certain. the best thing might be look in /etc/rc for the last line which will be something like: echo `date` those are the quotes you want and this is the only way to do what I think you're asking. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:18:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95A416A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCA643D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:18:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) id k88EIXFn061909; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:18:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:18:32 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: tequnix@frogmi.net Message-ID: <20060908141832.GA30620@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20060907162940.7aa65884@jadzia.intern.creative.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060907162940.7aa65884@jadzia.intern.creative.co.at> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what means: sockstat: sysctl(): No such process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:18:34 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 07), tequnix@frogmi.net said: > hallo list > > while running > > [ $(sockstat | grep -c saslauthd) -gt 90 ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/saslauthd restart > > via cron (/etc/crontab, as root) (why i do this is of no importance > for this question), i get from time to time - about 3-4 times a day, > cronjob runs every 11 minutes - the message: > > sockstat: sysctl(): No such process > > i do not understand why i get this only sometimes, and what this > exactly means. Sockstat first gets a list of all open sockets, then looks up the command name for each one. If the process has exited before the name is looked up, you get the warning, and sockstat prints "??" as the process name. You can quiet it by redirecting stderr to /dev/null: sockstat 2>/dev/null -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:23:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDAF16A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A27A43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:23:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [10.0.1.239] (ayla.wifi.int.ketralnis.com [10.0.1.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k88ENPBk057851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:23:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) In-Reply-To: <45016BBC.8080803@kth.se> References: <45016BBC.8080803@kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:23:19 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: lassee@kth.se Subject: Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:23:26 -0000 Here's an example using zsh (I assume it's the same using bash, but different using tcsh or sh): diff <(find /usr/local -type f | sort) <(for each in /var/db/pkg/*/ +CONTENTS; do grep -v '^@' $each; done | sort) This does a diff(1) of what /var/db/pkg says that /usr/local should look like, and what it *really* looks like (note that it would need some tuning in order to actually be useful, but you get the idea) This uses the <() operator. What the <() operator does is create a named pipe in /tmp, execute the commands contained in the parenthesis in a subshell, and connect the stdout of the subshell into that named pipe. So it's sort of like using temp files, but you don't have to clean up after yourself. There's another, similar operator that does force it to use temp files, but I can never remember what it is :) Check the manpages for your shell Note that not all programs support using named pipes instead of files, since they expect to be able to do things like rewind the current position in the file descriptor. diff(1) looks to support it okay, though. A simplified version of your example would look like this: diff <(cat foo) <(cat bar) On 08 Sep 2006, at 06:10, Lasse Edlund wrote: > If I have two files "foo" and "bar" and try to run diff on them I > write: > $diff foo bar > I can also write > $cat foo | diff - bar > But how do I give a program two (2) commands? not only to diff > but to any program that wants double input... > I wanna do > $cat foo | cat bar | diff - - > especially with echo commands that would be handy so I dont have to > create files! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:28:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816EA16A4F0 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7D943D66 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:28:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) id k88ESjNO092591; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:28:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:28:45 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: David King Message-ID: <20060908142842.GB30620@dan.emsphone.com> References: <45016BBC.8080803@kth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: lassee@kth.se, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:28:51 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 08), David King said: > Here's an example using zsh (I assume it's the same using bash, but > different using tcsh or sh): > > diff <(find /usr/local -type f | sort) <(for each in /var/db/pkg/*/ > +CONTENTS; do grep -v '^@' $each; done | sort) > > This does a diff(1) of what /var/db/pkg says that /usr/local should > look like, and what it *really* looks like (note that it would need > some tuning in order to actually be useful, but you get the idea) > > This uses the <() operator. What the <() operator does is create a > named pipe in /tmp, execute the commands contained in the parenthesis > in a subshell, and connect the stdout of the subshell into that named > pipe. So it's sort of like using temp files, but you don't have to > clean up after yourself. There's another, similar operator that does > force it to use temp files, but I can never remember what it is :) > Check the manpages for your shell Just for the archives, The =() operator puts the output to a temp file and returns the filename to the main command. It has to wait for the subshell to finish before running the main command, though. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:31:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2F616A4DF for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmiranda@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB60943D4C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:31:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mmiranda@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 53987 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 14:47:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.124?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 14:47:02 -0000 Message-ID: <45017F1A.2050207@123.com.sv> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:32:58 -0600 From: Miguel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mailgraph doesnt start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:31:16 -0000 Hi, i just installed mailgraph from ports, the install process finished without any error, i added mailgraph_enable="YES" to rc.conf, but mailgraph doesnt start: mailfilter# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailgraph start Starting mailgraph. mailfilter# echo $? 0 mailfilter# ps aux | grep mail root 6570 0.0 0.2 4892 1188 p0 RV 8:47AM 0:00.00 grep mail (csh) mailfilter# I dont get any error in /var/log/messages, if i run manually (from a root console), it starts ok, what can i check? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:43:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA8816A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mich@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.itxmarket.com (fw.itxmarket.com [84.14.136.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B453543D49 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:43:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mich@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icommerce.fr (mich2.itxmarket.com [192.168.2.26]) by mail2.itxmarket.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BDF1C0A5E; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:43:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by icommerce.fr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2E99722827; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:43:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:43:11 +0200 From: Michael Landin Hostbaek To: Miguel Message-ID: <20060908144311.GJ39984@mich2.itxmarket.com> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Landin Hostbaek , Miguel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45017F1A.2050207@123.com.sv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45017F1A.2050207@123.com.sv> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.freebsdcluster.org/~mich/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailgraph doesnt start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:43:10 -0000 Miguel (mmiranda) writes: > Hi, i just installed mailgraph from ports, the install process finished > without any error, i added > > mailgraph_enable="YES" > > to rc.conf, but mailgraph doesnt start: > > mailfilter# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailgraph start > Starting mailgraph. Just to check that you did not mispell something in /etc/rc.conf - try starting it, like so: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailgraph forcestart /mich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:49:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1962816A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from huyslogic@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693AA43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:49:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from huyslogic@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so735181nfc for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:49:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SUnNnksPs6X5rnlW8frhwmRlNSrYpPVOchcdBS91h6I/7/P7Zd1s0YOs4BBbiczqjgB+KzrIq2TJJjkOLG9EX5YX/+LnVGZZNMQaA7KWHdPS7CxCwToXGtOEVheM/K99Jjxx2RhKOV7szoHFFAlJQAcRQ6iDBlJecLUx6goJ+Eo= Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr4256870nfl; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.12 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:49:30 -0400 From: "Huy Ton That" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Changing Default Editor in profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:49:33 -0000 under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line: EDITOR=pico; export EDITOR where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors is now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily. However, when I ssh in and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into 'vi' by default. Any ideas how I can get this loaded? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:58:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856B816A4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3AA343D67 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36580 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2006 14:58:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tlGGdD/m6nWEZjHwTLeXeHvzmt3+t7Ks6FOzqoZNqnFSN+EASC6qo3kYmDUo+nq5nGZpInIg8t0QobDpkavaDcMyQOeyN0H1b5uxAksN8aPqYcsSPv4NbMmzLirEKXy1LG4lW43mGiRIaK/hJr50ocExXyGzHgWjyNvJDqhWxf4= ; Message-ID: <20060908145843.36578.qmail@web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:58:43 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: Huy Ton That , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Changing Default Editor in profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:58:47 -0000 --- Huy Ton That wrote: > under my home directory for root under .profile I > added the line: > > EDITOR=pico; export EDITOR > > where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this > line exists in my > personal account that I use and my default for > external launched editors is > now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily. > However, when I ssh in > and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is > still booting into 'vi' > by default. Any ideas how I can get this loaded? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > yeah, I'm not sure what the switch is for su I think its -w check man, but you have to load your profile for root which is a switch to su. by default it uses the profile of the user running su. the switch loads the profile for the user your su'ing to. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 14:59:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8631B16A4DF for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134C843D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:59:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so179315wri for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:59:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h1m+us/Ps+hCMp3w0CEA9KHUylgWsJX/7DxFUv3ipPuWSIEZUXrwuPZ5At3VNkLrcAiYJtnML+NLHIXlxrbbe5QjBjtV15j+M2lwcFYgpiaDYxAH5F5Q7Hn+tzazb83OCeEgY1+d5x4UIockSZ9hhS4a54HzhqMW5FZP+MG8vYk= Received: by 10.90.50.6 with SMTP id x6mr780646agx; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.31.3 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7daacbbe0609080759m21433582q5518912d23c8cd22@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:59:50 +0200 From: "Dominique Goncalves" To: "Huy Ton That" In-Reply-To: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing Default Editor in profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:59:52 -0000 Hi, On 9/8/06, Huy Ton That wrote: > under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line: > > EDITOR=pico; export EDITOR > > where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my > personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors is > now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily. However, when I ssh in > and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into 'vi' > by default. Any ideas how I can get this loaded? You have to use "su -", if you want load your root's environnement. su(1) for more explications. HTH > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Regards. -- There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 15:04:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B07816A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from huyslogic@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2D143D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from huyslogic@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so738845nfc for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:04:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bgqsKnRXWFeP1SEX+1YqnJ59uKA4pKPzOvHjuaIqo9K7AuVCy/JSJEkQGghiyyyPkT2M+oYZtXNB8ip5ttjE9MP46vFo88SfhnZu73Hq0FNeSPjfd07YzwZGbaKb5KrTgPR21DfFcB6w5iIJxUZCMW9xHuT4W0mPsoiELFP5S1E= Received: by 10.49.8.4 with SMTP id l4mr4256117nfi; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.12 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1cac28080609080804r3f258233ldbf6b4a91b7fc600@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:04:25 -0400 From: "Huy Ton That" To: "Dominique Goncalves" In-Reply-To: <7daacbbe0609080759m21433582q5518912d23c8cd22@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> <7daacbbe0609080759m21433582q5518912d23c8cd22@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing Default Editor in profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:04:30 -0000 Thank you sirs!!! That did the trick! On 9/8/06, Dominique Goncalves wrote: > > Hi, > > On 9/8/06, Huy Ton That wrote: > > under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line: > > > > EDITOR=pico; export EDITOR > > > > where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my > > personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors > is > > now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily. However, when I ssh > in > > and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into > 'vi' > > by default. Any ideas how I can get this loaded? > > You have to use "su -", if you want load your root's environnement. > su(1) for more explications. > > HTH > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Regards. > > -- > There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach > a man to fish, feed him for life." > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 15:11:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B3616A4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5256A43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:10:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Sep 2006 15:10:57 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (EHLO [192.168.2.5]) [62.59.173.176] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 08 Sep 2006 17:10:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #25365336 Message-ID: <4501880D.7020609@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:11:09 +0200 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060706) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jud References: <45004FC9.1060403@gmx.net> <1157664869.20711.270398866@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1157664869.20711.270398866@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Xfce 4.3.90.2 + Xorg 6.9.0 with Compositor == SUPER buggy ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:11:06 -0000 Jud wrote: > On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:58:49 +0200, "Frank Staals" > said: > >> I recently decided to have some fun with the latest Xfce release ( or >> well; when I installed it it was, at the moment there is an RC1 ) and >> composite stuff. Allthough what I found out was that xfwm4 crashed when >> I enabled transparency for inactive windows and moved some aterms >> around. So my question was if someone else is running Xfce 4.4 beta and >> has the same problems ? And if someone has a solusion for it. I guess >> that the xorg port is the weakest link ATM. I can't imagine people >> actually using such composite settings when the wm crashes every 15 >> minutes ... so I asume it runs better with xorg7. So a sort of second >> question would be: is there an easy way of installing, but as important >> deinstalling, Xorg7 ? >> > > IIANM, Xorg 6.9 is exactly the same as 7.0, just packaged all together > (6.9) rather than in separate modules (7.0). Thus I believe the > assumption that installing 7.0 would improve matters is incorrect. > > FYI, RC1 without compositing enabled works flawlessly so far for me on > -CURRENT. I'm running Xorg 6.9, portupgraded less than a week ago. > > Jud > Hmm then I realy think the compositor needs a lot of work. When I enable the fancy effects xfce slows down to about 50% of it's speed. And indeed ; without compositor it runs flawlessly here too. -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 15:19:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE2016A519 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD1C43D6D for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:18:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so662234wxd for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.44.5 with SMTP id r5mr337906wxr; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i37sm3299545wxd.2006.09.08.08.18.51; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541F3C036 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss.seibercom.net [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CA5BC44 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:19:07 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060908111738.2EBC.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Changing Default Editor in profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:19:00 -0000 Huy Ton That wrote: > under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line: > > EDITOR=pico; export EDITOR > > where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my > personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors is > now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily. However, when I ssh in > and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into 'vi' > by default. Any ideas how I can get this loaded? Try using: su -m instead. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net Give a man a fire, he is warm for a night. Set a man on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 15:20:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE0616A4E8 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (aty189.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.6.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7652C43D6B for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:20:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k88FJtK3014984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:20:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <45018A13.1060305@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:19:47 +0200 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060731) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> <7daacbbe0609080759m21433582q5518912d23c8cd22@mail.gmail.com> <1cac28080609080804r3f258233ldbf6b4a91b7fc600@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1cac28080609080804r3f258233ldbf6b4a91b7fc600@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig295921E4463237575F91FF4F" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1826/Fri Sep 8 13:38:39 2006 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: ~/.profile and tcsh (was: Changing Default Editor in profile) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:20:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig295921E4463237575F91FF4F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> > under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line: >> > >> > EDITOR=3Dpico; export EDITOR >> You have to use "su -", if you want load your root's environnement. >> su(1) for more explications. > Thank you sirs!!! That did the trick! Hmmm, interesting. I was under the impression that ~/.profile file is used by sh and not by tcsh. Indeed, I can't find it being mentioned in tcsh(1) manpage. Am I missing something? Pointers to TFM welcomed, of course :) Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP: http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc --------------enig295921E4463237575F91FF4F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFAYoaezeoPAwGIYsRCMv2AKCvR8wXWa0BZOl2DQaPQWAlbwi0oQCffXBb 3xXvP5HCO8XcVqeypzoDRvg= =jvtr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig295921E4463237575F91FF4F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 15:37:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ACC16A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys22.mail.msu.edu (sys22.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0BA43DCF for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:36:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys22.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GLiPL-0002Za-PF; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:36:43 -0400 References: <1cac28080609080749q4fe4d31agc51d5206b0340f5c@mail.gmail.com> <7daacbbe0609080759m21433582q5518912d23c8cd22@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7daacbbe0609080759m21433582q5518912d23c8cd22@mail.gmail.com> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: "Dominique Goncalves" Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:36:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Huy Ton That Subject: Re: Changing Default Editor in profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:37:03 -0000 Dominique Goncalves writes: > Hi, > > On 9/8/06, Huy Ton That wrote: >> under my home directory for root under .profile I added the line: >> >> EDITOR=pico; export EDITOR >> >> where no such line existed for EDITOR before; this line exists in my >> personal account that I use and my default for external launched editors >> is >> now pico such that I can edit crontab stuff easily. However, when I ssh >> in >> and then su, I try to run crontab only to find it is still booting into >> 'vi' >> by default. Any ideas how I can get this loaded? > > You have to use "su -", if you want load your root's environnement. > su(1) for more explications. > That is the specific answer to your question, but here is an additional caution. You do not want to have the main root account set up with anything but the minimal stuff that will be available in single user mode with only the / partition mounted just in case you have trouble and need it. For it to be root it needs to have UID = 0 and best to have GID = 0. It doesn't need to be named root. So, I would suggest making your own separate root account - maybe named something like domr or domR or something else convenient and then give that account all the nice things like your favorite shell and editor, etc so you can use that as root when all the system is up and happy and leave the main root with /bin/sh as shell and /usr/bin/vi as editor, etc. I usually even put a copy of vi in /bin just for those occasions. Just a suggestion, ////jerry > HTH >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Regards. > > -- > There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach > a man to fish, feed him for life." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 16:14:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478C416A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys20.mail.msu.edu (sys20.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B9C43D67 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:14:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys20.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GLj00-0002Dv-NN; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:14:36 -0400 References: <1157680784.3025.7.camel@freebsd.ffnz.net> In-Reply-To: <1157680784.3025.7.camel@freebsd.ffnz.net> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: Joshua Lewis Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:14:35 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Shells X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:14:44 -0000 Joshua Lewis writes: > My shell mysteriously changed. I don't know what port changed the shell > but how do I put it back to normal. I liked how when I was logged in or > su'ed to root I had a prompt with the computer name and a hash sign. Now > I have a percent sign and when I try to change the shell with chsh I can > not get it to work anymore. > > I am doing chsh -s /bin/sh is that correct? Is that the default BSD > shell? It sounds like either your .profile (for sh) or your .cshrc (for tcsh) is what got changed. That is where the prompt will be determined by the setting of the 'prompt' variable. But, to your specific question, you should be able to set your shell using chsh. I think you only need the -s if you call it by 'chpass' instead of chsh, but I am not sure. If you have root access, then you can also change your shell in the passwd file directly using vipw(8). Just use vipw to edit the shell field in the passwd file entry and write and exit out of vipw. If you do not have root access, then you cannot modify it with vipw. If there was no shell specified in the shell field, the system would have given you /bin/sh by default. If the shell you are trying to change to or from is not listed in //etc/shells, then it will not allow you to make the change with the chsh command. If you have root access, you can modify the content of /etc/shells to add any that you need to use. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 16:22:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBAD16A4DF for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys19.mail.msu.edu (sys19.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117A343D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:22:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys19.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GLj7O-0004cj-Kv; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:22:14 -0400 References: <20060906200225.GA35990@thought.org> <44FF3404.2040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060907000141.GA36761@thought.org> <45001A3B.70800@voidcaptain.com> <04f301c6d2de$537ab080$0225a8c0@Wednesday> <4500C5B3.2020801@voidcaptain.com> In-Reply-To: <4500C5B3.2020801@voidcaptain.com> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: Pete Slagle Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:22:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: jdow , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.1 recommended instead of 5.x for new installations [was: Efficacy vs. "friendliness"] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:22:23 -0000 Pete Slagle writes: > jdow wrote: > >> I noticed that FreeBSD 5.x was somewhat quicker than that to get up, >> running, and up to date. > > I can't think of a good reason to use FreeBSD 5.x for a new > installation; 6.1 contains so many reliability and performance > improvements that it is the clear choice over 5.5. > > (Upgrades are of course a more complicated question.) > The reason I have is that none of the AFS clients will run on 6.1, but they are supposed to run under 5.x. I am about to embark on a test of it under 5.5 this afternoon. I know OpenAFS fails under 6.1. Although it seems to build OK - and even starts up, as soon as I try to go to a directory, it crashes the whole system with a partial error message from lock manager. Something similar is true of the ARLA AFS client port. So, there can be a reason, though it is not overall system quality. ////jerry ps. If anyone knows enough about the new locks (or locks in general), it would be nice to have someone make the changes for the FreeBSD 6.xx versions of OpenAFS and Arla. It is really beyond my knowledge. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 16:25:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF9716A61C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:25:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C4443D6B for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:25:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (pix.xythos.com [64.154.218.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k88GPDfY068031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:25:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20060908142842.GB30620@dan.emsphone.com> References: <45016BBC.8080803@kth.se> <20060908142842.GB30620@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:24:57 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: How do I give 2 parameters to programs in an unix enviroment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:25:22 -0000 >> Here's an example using zsh (I assume it's the same using bash, but >> different using tcsh or sh): [...] >> This uses the <() operator. [...] >> There's another, similar operator that does force it to use temp >> files, >> but I can never remember what it is :) [...] > Just for the archives, The =() operator puts the output to a temp file > and returns the filename to the main command. It has to wait for the > subshell to finish before running the main command, though. Ah, thanks, I'll try to remember that this time :) Note that the =() operator, because it uses regular files, doesn't have the issue that some programs won't know how to deal with it (that is, because they are regular files, they support things like fseek() etc). The downside, as Dan said, is that the entire command line isn't executed until all of the subshells within =() operators complete (so the example I gave could take a long time to have any output). Also note that the =() operator will put its temp files in / tmp by default (unless you set your shell to put them elsewhere), so if you have a command with a lot of output, make sure that your /tmp can take all of it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 16:32:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256C816A5C9 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38C7043D60 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:32:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 13411 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 16:32:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (67.32.30.214) by smtpout04-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.199) with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2006 16:32:06 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <368C080E-1BDA-4588-A9AB-D310C48C8C8B@hackmiester.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Users Questions From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:32:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Network mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:32:22 -0000 I'm old school. Back in my day, we didn't have the Internet we have today, and our UNIX boxes could mail over the network we had strung. I don't care what mail app I use. I just want to be able to have two boxes, boxbox and snowy, for example, and be able to 'mail boxbox' from snowy and vice versa. This has to be on a system-wide basis, so people on my shell server can do it easily. Any ideas? A quick tutorial? -- hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) yknow when you go to a party, and everyones hooked up except one guy and one girl and so they look at each other like.. do we have to? intel & nvidia must be lookin at each other like that right now Phone Voice: +1 251 589 6348 Fax: Call the voice number and ask. Email General chat: hackmiester@hackmiester.com Large attachments: hackmiester@gmail.com SPS-related stuff: hfuller@stpaulsmobile.net IM AIM: hackmiester1337 Skype: hackmiester31337 YIM: hackm1ester Gtalk: hackmiester MSN: hackmiester@hackmiester.com Xfire: hackmiester From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 16:45:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3083A16A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys15.mail.msu.edu (sys15.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D3C43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:45:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys15.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GLjTf-00042c-56; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:45:15 -0400 References: <368C080E-1BDA-4588-A9AB-D310C48C8C8B@hackmiester.com> In-Reply-To: <368C080E-1BDA-4588-A9AB-D310C48C8C8B@hackmiester.com> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:45:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: Network mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:45:16 -0000 hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) writes: > I'm old school. Back in my day, we didn't have the Internet we have > today, and our UNIX boxes could mail over the network we had strung. I > don't care what mail app I use. I just want to be able to have two boxes, > boxbox and snowy, for example, and be able to 'mail boxbox' from snowy > and vice versa. This has to be on a system-wide basis, so people on my > shell server can do it easily. Any ideas? A quick tutorial? > -- > hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) > If you have some network connection between the two boxes (and any others) Just follow the handbook and set up sendmail on each. If you do not want Email from anywhere else, then set it up to accept mail connections only from those two boxen. You don't need any of the other fancy stuff out there unless you see some feature that you just gotta have. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 16:46:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35E316A4DA for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5E443D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:46:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k88GjnNi049098 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k88GjnYb049096 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:45:43 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060908164543.GA49031@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix for 20 years. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: trouble building portupgrade. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:46:02 -0000 I'd like to install mostly Pacakges, not build from src. pkg_add -r fails with 6.1, so I'm trying to install portupgrade. Can anybody explain this:: ===> Running ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg ldconfig: warning: /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg: No such file or directory ===> Installing ldconfig configuration file cannot create /usr/local/libdata/ldconfig/portupgrade: No such file or directory *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade. *** Error code 1 -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 16:54:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7C416A4DE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from sys31.mail.msu.edu (sys31.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077FC43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:54:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@msu.edu) Received: from jerrymc by sys31.mail.msu.edu with local (Exim 4.52 #1) id 1GLjc8-0007WW-4H; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:54:00 -0400 References: <10609080309.AA04044@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <10609080309.AA04044@pluto.rain.com> From: "Jerold McAllister" To: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:53:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice build crashes the compiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:54:01 -0000 Perry Hutchison writes: > Anyone seen this and know how to get past it? > Configuring out the failing component would be fine, > if possible, since I really only need the word processor. > > Making: ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj > g++-ooo -fmessage-length=0 -c -Os -fno-strict-aliasing -fvisibility=hidden -I. -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc/slsview -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/offuh -I../inc -I../../inc -I../../../../inc/pch -I../../../../inc -I../../../../unx/inc -I../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/inc -I. -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/external -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/unxfbsdi/inc -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/res -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solver/680/unxfbsdi.pro/inc/stl -I/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/solenv/inc/Xp31 -I/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include -I/ u! > sr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/include/ > In file included from /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view/SlideSorterView.cxx:54: > ../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx: In member function `void sd::DrawDocShell::SetSpecialProgress(SfxProgress*, Link*)': > ../../inc/DrawDocShell.hxx:189: warning: declaration of 'pProgress' shadows a member of 'this' > g++-ooo: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) > Please submit a full bug report. > See for instructions. > dmake: Error code 1, while making '../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj' > '---* tg_merge.mk *---' > > ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view > dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_instsetoo_native' > '---* *---' > *** Error code 255 > > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0. I did once see something that looked a little like this when a build ran out of disk space. But, I seem to remember there was a disk full or some such message mixed in with the others and I don't see it here. So, check your disk space and after that, good luck finding someone who knows more about it. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 17:01:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF6E16A4DF for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reinhard.weismann@callooh.com) Received: from mail.callooh.com (chello062178170039.13.14.vie.surfer.at [62.178.170.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8E543D5A for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:01:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reinhard.weismann@callooh.com) Received: from zev.home.callooh.com (zev.home.callooh.com [192.168.1.2]) by mail.callooh.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k88H11aP082788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:01:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from reinhard.weismann@callooh.com) Received: from zev.home.callooh.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zev.home.callooh.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k88H11bn007138; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:01:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from reinhard.weismann@callooh.com) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:01:01 +0200 From: Reinhard Weismann To: Dan Nelson Message-Id: <20060908190101.82a49418.reinhard.weismann@callooh.com> In-Reply-To: <20060908141832.GA30620@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20060907162940.7aa65884@jadzia.intern.creative.co.at> <20060908141832.GA30620@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1826/Fri Sep 8 13:38:39 2006 on lyekka.home.callooh.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mail.callooh.com [192.168.1.1]); Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:01:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what means: sockstat: sysctl(): No such process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:01:09 -0000 On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:18:32 -0500 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Sep 07), tequnix@frogmi.net said: > > hallo list > >=20 > > while running=20 > >=20 > > [ $(sockstat | grep -c saslauthd) -gt 90 ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sasla= uthd restart > >=20 > > via cron (/etc/crontab, as root) (why i do this is of no importance > > for this question), i get from time to time - about 3-4 times a day, > > cronjob runs every 11 minutes - the message: > >=20 > > sockstat: sysctl(): No such process > >=20 > > i do not understand why i get this only sometimes, and what this > > exactly means.=20 >=20 > Sockstat first gets a list of all open sockets, then looks up the > command name for each one. If the process has exited before the name > is looked up, you get the warning, and sockstat prints "??" as the > process name. You can quiet it by redirecting stderr to /dev/null: > sockstat 2>/dev/null thank you for explanation. i will quieten it by redirecting stderr as you suggested. =A8reinhard --=20 Algol-60 surely must be regarded as the most important programming language yet developed. -- T. Cheatham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 17:02:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 86A9916A4E2; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20060908170200.86A9916A4E2@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 17:02:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 8B6C516A4E9; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20060908170200.8B6C516A4E9@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 17:03:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3847616A4DD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.101.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5A7443D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16166 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2006 17:03:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Dw01IRffQ+l26qrGQCol7fk6Oma3Vwh6nxvokgZdQcGLVbyB6BWoNRreNdf/8TvB+615ymT+YtxwpPNsXL48Ykuzm+DqyGD1g40meBVIvkB+zcl+zir/8lka74+4sr4b5vtVPk6Cl8dxk8BoYgRJopW6RnRKY5F5FHZqLk45NGs= ; Message-ID: <20060908170321.16164.qmail@web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:03:21 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Clevo D900K and 64 bit FreeBSD support??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:03:22 -0000 I've been looking into replacing my current laptop/desktop with a Clevo D900K, AMD-64 machine. I'm just curious if anyone out there has any experience getting FreeBSD up and running on this machine and at what capacity (card reader, 8.1 sound card, WLAN+Bluetooth, Hardware RAID, etc.) I was going to go with the Nvidia Quadro graphics card and am curious on the status of 64bit native nvidia drivers. I know it wasn't/isn't supported as of yet. Also I was hoping to take an existing i386 system and move it to the 64bit system. Can I by properly specifying the environment rebuild an i386 system to 64bit? Or am I better off/ have too install a fresh 64bit system? I would imagine this could tick off a few ports like portupgrade that would make rebuilding tricky at best. I've linked to and included the machine spec for those savy enough to look at the general hardware and know it's level of support. thanks, -brian http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/D900K.asp link might make the following look a little nicer D900K Specification CPU 。 AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 Processor 3800+/4200+/4600+   (2.00~2.40GHz, 1MB L2 cache, socket 939) 。 AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 Processor 4400+/4800+   (2.20~2.40GHz, 2MB L2 cache, socket 939) 。 AMD AthlonTM 64 Processor FX-53/FX-55/FX-57   (2.40~2.80GHz, 1MB L2 cache, socket 939) 。 AMD AthlonTM 64 Processor 3000+/3200+/3400+/3500+/3800+   (1.80~2.40GHz, 512KB L2 cache, socket 939) 。 AMD AthlonTM 64 Processor 3700+/4000+   (2.20~2.40GHz, 1MB L2 cache, socket 939) Core Logic 。VIA K8T890CE + VT8237R Display 。17.1" WXGA (1440x900) TFT / 17.1" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) / 17.1" WUXGA (1920x1200) TFT Memory 。Two 64-bit wide DDR data channels 。Two 200-pin SODIMM sockets, supporting DDR 400 。Expandable Memory up to 2GB, based on 256/512/1024MB SODIMM Module Video Controller 。(Option) nVIDIA QuadroTM Fx 2500  High performance graphic chip 。512MB DDRIII Video RAM on board 。256-bit video memroy interface 。PCI-Express x16 。Fully DirectX 9.0 support 。Modular Design 。OpenGL support 。(Option) nVIDIA GeForceTM Go  7900 GTX High performance  graphic chip 。256MB DDRIII Video RAM on board 。256-bit video memroy interface 。PCI-Express x16 。Fully DirectX 9.0 support 。Modular Design 。H.264 encode support   (HD-DVD/BD-DVD playback) 。(Option) nVIDIA GeForceTM Go 7900  GTX High performance graphic chip 。512MB DDRIII Video RAM on board 。256-bit video memroy interface 。PCI-Express x16 。Fully DirectX 9.0 support 。Modular Design 。H.264 encode support   (HD-DVD / BD-DVD playback) Storage 。One changeable Primary 2.5" HDD 9.5mm(H) 。Serial ATA HDD support 。Supporting Master mode IDE ATA-100/133 (Ultra DMA) 。One changeable Primary Bay for 12.7mm(H) DVD-ROM / Combo / DVD-Dual Driver 。(Option) One external USB 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive 。(Option) One changeable Secondary 2.5" HDD 9.5mm(H) 。(Option) One changeable Secondary Bay for 12.7mm(H) DVD-ROM / Combo / DVD-Dual Driver Keyboard 。Full size keyboard, with Numeric Pad, Multi-Language support 。Built-in Touchpad with scrolling function Sound System 。AC'97 2.2 Compliant Interface 。3D stereo enhanced sound system 。Virtual 8-channel audio output 。Sound-Blaster PROTM compatible 。S/PDIF Digital output 。SRS (Sound Retrieval System® ) / WOW 3D sound technology 。1x Built-in Microphone 。4x Built-in Speakers 。1x Built-in Sub woofer 。1x Built-in Audio DJ Console for music CD (MP3 format compatible) I/O Ports 。4x USB 2.0 ports 。2x Mini IEEE1394a ports 。1x S-Video jack for TV output (HDTV support) 。1x Serial port 。1x Parallel port (LPT1), supporting ECP/EPP 。1x Infrared Transfer port 。1x DVI port 。1x PS/2 port 。1x Headphone jack 。1x Microphone jack 。1x S/PDIF output jack 。1x Line-in jack for Audio input 。1x RJ-45 port for LAN 。1x RJ-11 port for Modem 。1x DC-In jack 。1x CATV input jack (optional function with TV-Tuner module) 。1x S-Video jack for Video input (optional function with TV-Tuner module) Slot 。Built-in 10-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/SD/MMC/CF/SM/MicroDrive/MS DUO/Mini SD/RSMMC) 。1x Type II PCMCIA socket Communication 。Infrared Transfer : 115.2Kbps SIR/4Mbps FIR, IrDA 1.1 compliant 。10/100/1000BASE-T Fast Ethernet onboard 。Integrated V.90/56K Azalia Modem (V.92 compliant) 。(Option) 802.11b/g MiniPCI Wireless LAN Module 。(Option) BluetoothTM Class II V2.0 Module, combo with 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Module 。(Factory option) 1.3M-pixel Video Camera module Power 。Full Range 220W AC adapter - AC input 100~240V, 47~63Hz, DC output 20V, 11A 。Changeable 12-cell Smart Li-Iion battery pack, 6600mAh Security 。Kensington® Lock Dimension 。397(W) x 298(D) x 49.5(H)mm, 15.6"(W) x 11.7"(D) x 1.9"(H) 。5.8Kg with 12 cells Lithium-lion battery Options 。One changeable Second 2.5" HDD 9.5mm(H) 。One changeable Second Combo / DVD-Dual Driver 12.7mm(H) 。One external USB 1.44MB Floppy Disk Driver 。MiniPCI Hybrid TV Tuner (analog or digital) 。802.11b/g MiniPCI Wireless LAN Module 。BluetoothTM Class II V2.0 Module, combo with 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Module 。One external USB 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive 。(Factory option) 1.3M-pixel Video Camera module From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 18:34:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073F716A500 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2958A43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:34:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so706429uge for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:34:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Uvw7HPm2QW1Qokg8fXUAPt6t5ugfxrU3Uumo1ez2rtqpvH2rxp6dcc2ubc4oKYg3xRLa/hRL23R8cgJ3/LU3DRL78C8GgD5KTaldW8hpE984qsRA5PWaIpDMwdHteKBme1J5V7NMYskef273qYB5hnQmEzoMqppAM89Ilu9HYZw= Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr1260938ugm; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.106.17 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <226ae0c60609081134na018cc4r9f3369e03626d018@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:34:50 -0400 From: "David Robillard" To: "Jonathan Horne" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: trouble with a pair of bind9 servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:34:53 -0000 > the trouble im having is, that my slave (5.5-p3) will not transfer the zone > from the master (6.1-p4). my /var/log/messages is filled with these: > > Sep 7 21:50:24 fbsd55-2 named[1847]: exiting > Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: starting BIND 9.3.2 -t /var/named -u bind > Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:40: option 'allow-update' is not allowed in 'slave' zone 'dlptest.com' Hi Jonathan, First, I would recommend you to send this question to the BIND mailing list at . See ISC's website for more subscribing at http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/bind-lists.php and the archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bind-users Now, this first error is self explanatory: you can't use 'allow-update' in a slave zone, only in the master. It makes sense, because if the slave had updates, then it would not be able to tell the master about those updates and the zones would become inconsistent between your machines (resulting in quite a mess). The other way around is better: update the master which will then send notifiiy messages to your slave who in turn will download the updates. So just remove 'allow-update' in the slave's named.conf(5). > Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: zone dlptest.com/IN/internal: has 0 SOA records > Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: zone dlptest.com/IN/internal: has no NS records These point to a bad zone file. You should double check your /etc/namedb/dlptest.com.i.hosts file. Make sure you have both SOA and NS records in them. Consider using the named-checkzone(8) command to check your zone files. See the man page for named-checkzone(8) for more info. Hummm, I know it's not my business, but may I suggest you another name for your zone files? I personally use "db.dlptest.com.internal" and "db.dlptest.com.external" for the master files. For the slave, I use "bak.dlptest.com.internal" and "bak.dlptest.com.external". IMHO it's a little more clear whether you're working on a internal slave file or an external master file :) > Sep 7 21:50:26 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: running > Sep 7 21:50:27 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: dumping master > file: /etc/namedb/tmp-UZF5mCCxZP: open: permission denied > Sep 7 21:50:27 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: transfer of 'dlptest.com/IN' from > 192.168.125.91#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied > Sep 7 21:51:20 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: dumping master > file: /etc/namedb/tmp-SaWWYxV06u: open: permission denied > Sep 7 21:51:20 fbsd55-2 named[1924]: transfer of 'dlptest.com/IN' from > 192.168.125.91#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied > > this was giving me the impression that the bind user was not able to write > to /var/named/etc/namedb, but every time i make a chmod or chown adjustment, > it just gets changed back: > > fbsd55-2# /etc/rc.d/named restart > Stopping named. > etc/namedb changed > user expected 0 found 53 modified > Starting named. > fbsd55-2# I'm afraid I'm not quite sure this problem is? Maybe check your fstab(5) for special options such as noexec or nosuid and friends. Check the mount(8) man page if you find anything. Also have you played with chflags(1) ? Finally, I would check the ISC's BIND mailing list archives to see if you can come up with something. Good luck, David > ive been dinking around with this for a few hours now, and im about to pull > what little hair i have left out. can someone shed light on this for me > please? any help at all would be much appreciated! > > cheers, > jonathan -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 18:54:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D5A16A407 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFDA43D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:54:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k88IsNYQ086185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:54:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id k88IsNwX086184; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06601; Fri, 8 Sep 06 11:44:37 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 06 11:44:37 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Message-Id: <10609081844.AA06601@pluto.rain.com> To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20060908140709.88747.qmail@web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <10609080309.AA04044@pluto.rain.com> <20060908140709.88747.qmail@web83115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice build crashes the compiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:54:46 -0000 > > Making: ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj ... > > g++-ooo: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) ... > > dmake: Error code 1, while making > > '../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/slo/SlideSorterView.obj' > > '---* tg_merge.mk *---' > > > > ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making > > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0/work/OOD680_m1/sd/source/ui/slidesorter/view ... > > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.0. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2005-March/021822.html > > is an old link but has a patch. That describes the inability to build gcc-ooo itself. The current problem arose while trying to *use* gcc-ooo to build slidesorter (which I don't even need -- can it be configured out?) > http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2003-10/msg02538.php > > sugests some missing symlinks might be the culprit. That was while trying to build readlicense_oo, in OOo 1.something, and looks as if it may have somehow involved Java. > Please let me know is either of these resolve the > isses, I'm looking to get OpenOffice built this > weekend after I update my basic system... Both of > these reference that Error 65280 but neither involves cc1plus dying with a signal 9. The only thing I know of that causes a reproducible "kill -9" is a missing shared library, but cc1plus uses only libc.so.6, which does exist: # ( cd /usr/local/gcc-ooo/i386-portbld-freebsd6.1/3.4.1/libexec/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd6.1/3.4.1 ; ldd cc1plus ) cc1plus: libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x283d5000) # ll /lib/libc.so.6 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 882116 May 6 20:56 /lib/libc.so.6 > some answers also suggest you might be running out of > space in the build directory. You'll need at least > 1.8G to build Openoffice (/usr/ports); I say at least > because when I built it for Gentoo on my P4 it used up > more like 5G and took 8-10 hours to build. There seems to be plenty of space: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s3a 507630 30144 436876 6% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad0s3e 507630 282 466738 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s3f 40083664 10225734 26651238 28% /usr /dev/ad0s3d 1148318 88404 968050 8% /var BTW this is a *long* way into the build. A rerun, which doesn't need to actually build anything prior to the point of failure, generates close to 500KB of logfile and takes almost 40 minutes. The initial attempt had taken over 24 hours to reach that point. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 19:25:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C604F16A4B3 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vdemart1@tin.it) Received: from vsmtp1.tin.it (vsmtp1.tin.it [212.216.176.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B56743D58 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdemart1@tin.it) Received: from [10.155.100.8] (87.3.227.111) by vsmtp1.tin.it (7.2.072.1) (authenticated as vdemart1@tin.it) id 4501709500047208 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:25:20 +0200 From: vittorio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:25:07 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609082125.08395.vdemart1@tin.it> Subject: Acroread doesn't find a lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:25:43 -0000 Under freebsd 6.1 I have just portupgraded the ports acroread-7.0.8 and libXfixes-2.0.1_2. BUT #acroread /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared libraries: libXfixes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory What should I do? Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 20:32:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E45216A407 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E68C43D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:32:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so752319wxd for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:32:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=F0q4c3RgOpmLgEItsA1hvtLrr1Bls0SvJfzFwR36FefqIp2G+t0xYjM/8DYucp7ouMiaCUBaDEZZpEZQRQfwkjJA7tDRdc9QxFDBF3XZgu9bQ1V8aRIeVauPydnRzY1ffrPV2VzqaYd/G301/tKqPqegbwizZGWkz8LwXRazyUw= Received: by 10.90.94.2 with SMTP id r2mr1134972agb; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.56.6 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0609081332x30422334w52811830c51e1016@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:32:16 -0700 From: "Josh Carroll" Sender: josh.carroll@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200609082125.08395.vdemart1@tin.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200609082125.08395.vdemart1@tin.it> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 971c70e8c92e0cc4 Subject: Re: Acroread doesn't find a lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:32:18 -0000 Does /usr/X11R6/lib/libXfixes.so.3 exist? It is in the xorg-libraries-6.9.0 package, so you might try re-installing it (via ports or pkg_add, depending which you originally used). If it does exist, try running ldconfig to see if the library shows up: ldconfig -r | grep libXfixes.so.3 If it doesn't, you can try: ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib Then see whether it's showing up with ldconfig -r. Josh On 9/8/06, vittorio wrote: > Under freebsd 6.1 I have just portupgraded the ports acroread-7.0.8 and > libXfixes-2.0.1_2. > > BUT > > #acroread > /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while > loading shared libraries: libXfixes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No > such file or directory > > > What should I do? > > Vittorio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 20:55:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2FF16A403 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b_bonev@mail.orbitel.bg) Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg (smtp.orbitel.bg [195.24.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A68E43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:55:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b_bonev@mail.orbitel.bg) Received: (qmail 25441 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2006 20:55:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (10.0.0.4) by smtp.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 8 Sep 2006 20:55:31 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.orbitel.bg Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg ([10.0.0.3]) by localhost (sof-rv2.orbitel.bg [10.0.0.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8QLYeFHjwuqE for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:50:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from home (unknown [87.126.108.8]) by smtp.orbitel.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D01BA5CAE0 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 23:55:31 +0300 (EEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Ivailo Bonev" Organization: Orac Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=windows-1251 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060908061426.GB87811@holestein.holy.cow> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:57:06 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.01 (Win32) Subject: Fwd: Re: hp or Toshiba laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:55:35 -0000 From: "Ivailo Bonev" To: Parv Cc: Subject: Re: hp or Toshiba laptop? Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:52:44 +0300 On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 09:14:26 +0300, Parv wrote: > Sorry for using somebody else's reply to reply to OP as I had > deleted the OP. > > in message <1157643522.667.6.camel@localhost>, wrote Joel Dahl > thusly... >> >> On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 08:38 -0400, Christian Lopez de Castilla >> Wagner wrote: >> >> > I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week > ... >> > Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless >> > 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g) > ... > > I happen to be currently using Toshiba Satellite A105-40xx (work > computer), which cost around $800-900 from Circuit City or Best Buy > (US chain stores). After few weeks of usage, the keyboard turns out > to be rather crappy. When i type -- my typing speed is around 25 > wpm & not much of a touch typist -- the keys (more likely the > spring) whine as if they need lubrication & have become rather > loose. > > On another Toshiba Satellite, about a year old (as overheard from a > coworker; I used it for 2-3 months), Fn key has become so > ridiculously loose it behaves like a loose leaf paper covering a > sauce pan. > > So, be mindful of Tecra's keyboard. > > OTOH, two year old IBM Thinkpad T42's ($1600) keyboard is working > wonderfully; five old Dell Inspiron 5000e's (a thousand some dollars > at the time) keyboard is still better than above mentioned new > Toshiba Satellite. > > > - Parv > And my 2-year Toshiba Portege burned. Sorry Toshiba, but thats the truth. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 21:17:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555B216A40F for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAAF43D58 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:17:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from presario.homeunix.org (dyn-pupin-171-149.dyn.columbia.edu [128.59.171.149]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k88LHI6r024084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:17:23 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:16:47 -0400 Message-ID: <86zmdacb40.fsf@presario.homeunix.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.8 Subject: panic: filesystem goof: vop_panic[vop_revoke] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:17:25 -0000 Hi, sadly, I encountered a kernel panic this afternoon. I was transferring a file from remote host, and it happened. Sep 8 13:06:13 presario kernel: info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs Sep 8 16:53:40 presario syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: panic: filesystem goof: vop_panic[vop_revoke] Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Uptime: 3h49m9s Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Rebooting... Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1 991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All ri ghts reserved. Sep 8 16:53:40 presario kernel: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Aug 25 14:57:54 EDT 2006 [...snip...] Sep 8 16:59:05 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: 295774 files, 3003152 used, 3080835 free (36267 frags, 380571 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation) Sep 8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=494617 (36704 sh ould be 17376) (CORRECTED) Sep 8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=494617 OWNER=jin MODE=1006 44 Sep 8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=18776064 MTIME=Sep 8 16:52 2006 ( CLEARED) Sep 8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: Reclaimed: 0 directories, 1 files, 4832 fragments Sep 8 16:59:49 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: 9664 files, 1858449 used, 4736342 free ( 5574 frags, 591346 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) Sep 8 17:00:05 presario fsck: /dev/ad0s1d: 18011 files, 65778 used, 687317 free (19 65 frags, 85669 blocks, 0.3% fragmentation) 1. What do I need to further investigate the reason for the panic? 2. How can I find the file referred in the fsck out put? 3. If someone wants to improve the quality of FreeBSD and wants me to give more information, I'm willing to. Just send me a message. Thank you, Xiao-Yong -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 22:22:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA72516A403 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A06A43D5A for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:22:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.175.13]) by bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:22:55 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:22:52 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.175.200 by by104fd.bay104.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:22:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.189.93.85] X-Originating-Email: [dead_line@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dead_line@hotmail.com From: "Marwan Sultan" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:22:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2006 22:22:52.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[52EB54A0:01C6D395] Subject: FreeBSD 6.1 shutting down. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:22:55 -0000 Hello everyone, I'm On FreeBSD 6.1R, the box is intel945 extra Dlink NIC P4.3 1G DDR2, 160GB sata. running Freeradius, chillispot, MySql 4.1, apache2. acting as NAT and hotspot login. there is two diffrent servers with the same specifications. Its was working fine starting from day 1 to day 5 uptime. and the other box from day 1 to 3, with almost 30 users as hotspot login. On day 5, it had a sudden shutdown, some users called me reported there is no internet when i checked the server i discovered the box is off power. The second box after 3 days had the same problem. when i started the power, for both...again it start to work in a goodway. I was shocked.. checked messages, dmesg, and almost everything I couldnot find any clue in logs.. so question 1, How would i check what happened for this power shutting down? 2) in my dmesg and since i was settingup the box, the following error was always coming and on single line atapci1: failed to enable memory mapping! any help on this please? Marwan Sultan. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 8 22:41:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0131E16A40F for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D34C43D46 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:41:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.10]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J5A0039XPQBL0C1@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:42:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.0.103]) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:41:25 -0300 Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:35:52 -0300 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: <200609070651.05738.freebsd@dfwlp.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <4501F048.60108@dwlabs.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <42858.167.246.36.14.1157552428.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> <200609061905.02930.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200609070651.05738.freebsd@dfwlp.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060617) Subject: Re: can i build more than one world on a buildserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:41:29 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Wednesday 06 September 2006 19:05, Jonathan Horne wrote: >> On Wednesday 06 September 2006 13:16, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >>> On 9/6/06, Jonathan Horne wrote: >>>> is it possible to have STABLE and RELENG built on a single build >>>> server? or further, is it possible to have 5.5 and 6.1 worlds built >>>> from the same machine? >>> buildworld and buildkernel targets are >>> fairly sophisticated. >>> >>> The /usr/obj tree corresponds to the source >>> directory, so if you have your 5.5 sources in >>> /src/5.5 >>> and your 6.1 sources in >>> /src/6.1 (or /usr/src/6.1 for that matter) >>> >>> the world(s) would be built in >>> /usr/obj/src/5.5/ and /usr/obj/src/6.1/ >>> repsectively. (Or /usr/obj/usr/src/6.1) >>> >>> If the purpose is to buildworld on one >>> fast machine and then export it to slower >>> machines on th' network, this works >>> admirably well. >> thank you!! this was the exact hint i was hoping for! >> >> cheers, >> jonathan > > well, so far, kinda so good. > > i was able to cvsup 5.5-RELENG, 6.1-STABLE, and 6.1-RELENG to my build box. i > did a test kernel on the 6.1-RELENG, and that went fine, pretty much as > expected. but the 5.5 will not build. i get this error: > > [root@hephastus /usr/5.5-RELENG/src]# make buildkernel KERNCONF=TYCHE > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Kernel build for TYCHE started on Thu Sep 7 06:48:26 CDT 2006 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ===> TYCHE > mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> stage 1: configuring the kernel > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/i386/conf; > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > config -d /usr/obj/usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/TYCHE /usr/5.5-RELENG/src/sys/i386/conf/TYCHE > ../../conf/files: coda/coda_fbsd.c must be optional, mandatory or standard > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/5.5-RELENG/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/5.5-RELENG/src. > > should building parts of 5.5 from a 6.1-buildserver be possible? or should i > install 5.5 on my buildserver, and compile 5.5 from there as well as the > higher versions? > Hi, If I were you I would cvsup the entire repository (for src-all). Then I would set up chroot-ed environments for each world you want to build. When you want to do a build checkout the version you want to your chroot-ed /usr/src directory. There are more details @ /usr/src/UPDATING. In your chroot environment you'll need everything for doing a build (libraries, headers, etc.). What worked well for me was duplicating the base system root directories. One nice thing about this, for instance, is that you can have customized /etc/make.conf files. With this setup you can even do a chroot-ed install world, make dist, etc. There are hints for this in UPDATING as well. Best Regards, Duane Whitty P.S. Your email server bounced my earlier reply which, admittedly, I forgot to CC to list > thanks, > jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 01:03:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C5416A403; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 01:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3150C43D49; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 01:03:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2421A291AFE; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:03:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48946-09; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:02:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FB9291B0E; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:02:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 464A75CFA9; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:02:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449BF357A1; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:02:45 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:02:45 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:03:15 -0000 Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 02:33:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D3F16A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yangwithinyin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7614F43D46 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:33:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yangwithinyin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so846466wxd for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:33:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=eBu6wlsPhVEeCjAzGEOANzqouwM2d/GTrW5ULcWixpmB0VunwV9HdE5Vn3F0o1qooctydZjhqWmkCYOJyCjTJn7JtulD4Zd9HBd2wbdGpIVGBt7JL/fhbtCP+GPanBntdYrSx2XkZX41v2uptAXZ03hjSRDaao+i66RL5RynC1A= Received: by 10.70.109.12 with SMTP id h12mr1804938wxc; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [24.62.166.207]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h14sm3716421wxd.2006.09.08.19.33.39; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4502287F.1010200@nullshells.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:35:43 -0400 From: "mark@nullshells.com" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: writhing within Subject: Jail won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:33:42 -0000 Hi, I'm new to working with jail's in FreeBSD, so I've created a jail using the following instructions: http://www.section6.net/wiki/index.php/Creating_a_FreeBSD_Jail#Jail_Creation_Techniques I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p9. I'm having trouble starting my jail, and I've included my attempt below: >jail /home/jail/hostname hostname.net 192.168.1.101 /bin/sh jail: execv: /bin/sh: Permission denied What do I do to get the jail started up? Thanks for your help, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 02:42:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167DD16A412 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from havoc.unixathome.org (havoc.unixathome.org [66.154.98.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBECD43D46 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:42:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F74564BF; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:42:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from havoc.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (havoc.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T+IgDg4VGytI; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [70.26.229.230]) by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D844356422; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.55.0.99] (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB84B820; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:18:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Marc G. Fournier" Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:18:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:42:04 -0000 On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push > the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting > from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... > > Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have signed up. I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular reason. -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 03:00:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B73F16A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC9343D49 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k89307E8006684; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:00:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k89307E8006684 Message-ID: <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 04:00:00 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Langille References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> In-Reply-To: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig011FE51D0B17CC11C923CAB5" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Sep 2006 04:00:27 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1829/Sat Sep 9 02:23:06 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:00:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig011FE51D0B17CC11C923CAB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan Langille wrote: > On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >=20 >> Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to pu= sh=20 >> the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reportin= g=20 >> from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... >> >> Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? >=20 > Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have=20 > signed up. >=20 > I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular=20 > reason. Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern. About= equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free. Either there's some fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those systems, or someone is playing games. It would be interesting to see the= reported devices for those machines, if any. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig011FE51D0B17CC11C923CAB5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFAi438Mjk52CukIwRCPzcAJ95NbJiE8ycO6MNox7/Yw7vC5Hx2QCdF2bS 8goCjW2HnpQUw+vxT0/ROCE= =vZDu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig011FE51D0B17CC11C923CAB5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 03:05:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22C416A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr2.networksolutionsemail.com (omr2.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410DF43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr2.mgt.netsol.com [10.49.6.65]) by omr2.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k8935Mlr004107 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 23:05:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 26951 invoked by uid 78); 9 Sep 2006 03:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.1.60?) (racerx@makeworld.com@71.113.144.239) by ns-omr2.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 03:05:22 -0000 Message-ID: <45022F6C.6080004@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:05:16 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=C01BC363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , Dan Langille , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:05:23 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Dan Langille wrote: >> On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >>> Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push >>> the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting >>> from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... >>> >>> Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? >> Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have >> signed up. >> >> I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular >> reason. > > Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern. About > equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free. Either there's some > fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those > systems, or someone is playing games. It would be interesting to see the > reported devices for those machines, if any. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Ahh - you seen the same thing I did. -- Best regards, Chris You can't fix it if it ain't broke. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 02:49:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCAE16A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashbird1240@yahoo.com) Received: from web50403.mail.yahoo.com (web50403.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 945D643D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:49:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trashbird1240@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92344 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Sep 2006 02:49:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KGAcLL9CMRv7qDNGmfeTtQMFU06L9301GiDzKD3YuwELI/hiwj6O2x7ShygaSW/YAVoNhSZkT14Rz5wwOGfACwFS3OSmpUTbYkWo+BXnMferJNWwHmgg2XFP/VAwehd/KLbJSimq2ijuWjsqBiQ+ZefiAPRhrXnfmdmFSffCkvk= ; Message-ID: <20060909024946.92342.qmail@web50403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [146.115.125.165] by web50403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:49:46 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:49:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Adamson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:11:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Window Manager Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:49:48 -0000 Hello List, I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a nice window manager. One of the more annoying things I want to get away from in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one place, then a webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep typing and execute a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, rather than by me, who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage when I'm good and ready). In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things (i.e., only does what I ask it to). Recommendations welcome. thanks, Joel Joel J. Adamson 154 Madison Ave Arlington, MA 02474 617-643-1432 (work) 303-880-3109 (cell) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 03:21:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3A416A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EB343D46 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:21:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA04291AFE; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:21:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23290-05; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E443291B06; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:20:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 6310A60947; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:20:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6217A6084D; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:20:53 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:20:53 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@ganymede.hub.org To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060909001340.G981@ganymede.hub.org> References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Dan Langille , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:21:15 -0000 On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Dan Langille wrote: >> On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >>> Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push >>> the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting >>> from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... >>> >>> Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? >> >> Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have >> signed up. >> >> I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular >> reason. > > Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern. About > equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free. Either there's some > fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those > systems, or someone is playing games. It would be interesting to see the > reported devices for those machines, if any. Reported devices right now doesn't work on the other BSDs, as apparently we are the only one that has a pciconf command :( But, here is a sampling of systems information for those coming in from KR (that is Korea, right?): operating_system | release | architecture | count ------------------+-------------------+--------------+------- DragonFly | 1.6.0-RELEASE | amd64 | 17 DragonFly | 1.0A-RELEASE | i386 | 16 DragonFly | 1.1-Stable | i386 | 16 DragonFly | 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 16 DragonFly | 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 16 DragonFly | 1.1-Stable | amd64 | 12 DragonFly | 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 12 DragonFly | 1.4.0-RELEASE | amd64 | 12 DragonFly | 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 12 DragonFly | 1.4.0-RELEASE | i386 | 12 DragonFly | 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 11 DragonFly | 1.0A-RELEASE | amd64 | 10 DragonFly | 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 9 DragonFly | 1.6.0-RELEASE | i386 | 9 OpenBSD | 3.8 | macppc | 4 OpenBSD | 3.3 | zaurus | 4 OpenBSD | 3.6 | luna88k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | mvme88k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.6 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 4.0 | macppc | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | vax | 3 OpenBSD | 3.9 | sparc | 3 OpenBSD | 3.4 | cats | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | i386 | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | i386 | 3 NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | mmeye | 2 OpenBSD | 3.5 | sparc64 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc64 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | hppa | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | armish | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | alpha | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | hppa | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | macppc | 2 OpenBSD | 3.7 | mac68k | 2 NetBSD | 3.1_RC2 | shark | 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | sgi | 2 NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | evbsh5 | 2 NetBSD | 3.99.18 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 3.99.20 | evbsh3 | 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 4.0_BETA | evbsh3 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | armish | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.7 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.4 | amd64 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.5 | mvme88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | amd64 | 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 | amd64 | 2 NetBSD | 2.0.3 | algor | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 | zaurus | 2 OpenBSD | 3.7 | vax | 2 NetBSD | 2.0.3 | prep | 2 NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | amd64 | 2 NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | algor | 2 OpenBSD | 3.4 | mvme88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | sparc64 | 2 NetBSD | 4.99.1 | next68k | 1 OpenBSD | 4.0 | sparc | 1 NetBSD | 3.99.13 | sbmips | 1 OpenBSD | 3.8 | amd64 | 1 OpenBSD | 3.9 | vax | 1 OpenBSD | 3.2 | amd64 | 1 NetBSD | 3.0_RC6 | sandpoint | 1 OpenBSD | 4.0 | vax | 1 NetBSD | 3.99.13 | playstation2 | 1 NetBSD | 3.99.22 | hpcarm | 1 OpenBSD | 3.5 | luna88k | 1 OpenBSD | 4.0 | alpha | 1 NetBSD | 2.0.3 | ews4800mips | 1 NetBSD | 3.1_RC2 | cats | 1 NetBSD | 2.1_STABLE | cats | 1 NetBSD | 3.99.13 | pmppc | 1 NetBSD | 3.0.1 | sgimips | 1 OpenBSD | 3.2 | mvme88k | 1 So if they are playing games, they are sure going to an awful lot of trouble to do it ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 03:22:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD88816A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB0443D58 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:22:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFF2291B0B; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:22:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72302-01; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:22:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC175291B09; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:22:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 1768860947; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:22:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117086084D; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:22:42 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:22:42 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@ganymede.hub.org To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060909002116.B981@ganymede.hub.org> References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Dan Langille , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:22:58 -0000 On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Dan Langille wrote: >> On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >>> Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push >>> the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting >>> from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... >>> >>> Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? >> >> Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have >> signed up. >> >> I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular >> reason. > > Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern. About > equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free. Either there's some > fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those > systems, or someone is playing games. It would be interesting to see the > reported devices for those machines, if any. Oh, and I did check CN (China, I hope?) and they show similar trends, but not the same releases / architectures / counts ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 03:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE8916A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from puffy.asicommunications.com (puffy.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E5243D46 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:47:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from zloy.stilyagin.com (71-35-25-152.phnx.qwest.net [71.35.25.152]) by puffy.asicommunications.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k893l4R4001586 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:47:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from dwc@localhost) by zloy.stilyagin.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k893krWl031233; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:46:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:46:53 -0700 From: Darrin Chandler To: Joel Adamson Message-ID: <20060909034653.GT27121@zloy.stilyagin.com> References: <20060909024946.92342.qmail@web50403.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060909024946.92342.qmail@web50403.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Window Manager Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:47:06 -0000 On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:49:46PM -0700, Joel Adamson wrote: > > I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a nice window manager. One of the more annoying things I want to get away from in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one place, then a webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep typing and execute a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, rather than by me, who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage when I'm good and ready). > > In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things (i.e., only does what I ask it to). If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy. (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows) -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 03:52:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BD316A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr2.networksolutionsemail.com (omr2.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD6D43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:52:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr2.mgt.netsol.com [10.49.6.65]) by omr2.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k893qkBp011278 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 23:52:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 3527 invoked by uid 78); 9 Sep 2006 03:52:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.1.60?) (racerx@makeworld.com@71.113.144.239) by ns-omr2.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 03:52:46 -0000 Message-ID: <45023A89.5040108@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:52:41 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darrin Chandler References: <20060909024946.92342.qmail@web50403.mail.yahoo.com> <20060909034653.GT27121@zloy.stilyagin.com> In-Reply-To: <20060909034653.GT27121@zloy.stilyagin.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=C01BC363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Joel Adamson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Window Manager Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:52:48 -0000 Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:49:46PM -0700, Joel Adamson wrote: >> I am switching over my desktop system to FreeBSD soon and want to choose a nice window manager. One of the more annoying things I want to get away from in Microsoft Windows is focus-shifting: I'll be typing along in one place, then a webpage will finish loading, the window focus shifts, I keep typing and execute a bunch of commands in the new window (chosen by Windows, rather than by me, who would be content to keep typing and go to the webpage when I'm good and ready). >> >> In general I'd prefer a window manager that avoids these sorts of things (i.e., only does what I ask it to). > > If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've > been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy. > > (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows) > I prefer XFCE4 Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots? -- Best regards, Chris Everyone has a scheme for getting rich that will not work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 04:03:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536A716A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from puffy.asicommunications.com (puffy.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEC343D5D for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:02:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from zloy.stilyagin.com (71-35-25-152.phnx.qwest.net [71.35.25.152]) by puffy.asicommunications.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k8942vUB023676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:02:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (from dwc@localhost) by zloy.stilyagin.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8942pHZ003327; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:02:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:02:51 -0700 From: Darrin Chandler To: Chris Message-ID: <20060909040251.GU27121@zloy.stilyagin.com> References: <20060909024946.92342.qmail@web50403.mail.yahoo.com> <20060909034653.GT27121@zloy.stilyagin.com> <45023A89.5040108@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45023A89.5040108@makeworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Window Manager Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 04:03:00 -0000 On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:52:41PM -0500, Chris wrote: > > > > If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've > > been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy. > > > > (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows) > > > > I prefer XFCE4 > > Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots? http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ is the ion3 home page, with some screenshots toward the bottom. It's somewhat spartan, but if you want something that stays out of your way then it's very nice. It's like an X version of screen, on steroids. :) -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 04:25:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86F516A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2989643D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:25:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 39832 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 04:25:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=YlL74eVSfCV/ptqouUBCsMkRjugCKsUt0m6dp5cdjbzfe+H0tWG/szoyAN2vyfrQGn71LH36mqd22dtJSn20/EBEqxKxdraxETO2j7tcxZJVuRNe1iRKcDnFzX9Pn6o4tTFKg/wxWfmWGT+7wIqPMoqbzEiNCgXSjIvBS0C3Rzg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net@70.255.169.95 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 04:25:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 23:27:29 -0500 From: ajm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060909042729.GA1160@powerfull.bsd> References: <20060909024946.92342.qmail@web50403.mail.yahoo.com> <20060909034653.GT27121@zloy.stilyagin.com> <45023A89.5040108@makeworld.com> <20060909040251.GU27121@zloy.stilyagin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060909040251.GU27121@zloy.stilyagin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: Window Manager Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 04:25:47 -0000 On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:02:51PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:52:41PM -0500, Chris wrote: > > > > > > If that's really a major goal then look into ion3 or ratpoison. I've > > > been using ion3 for quite a while now and I'm happy. > > > > > > (you probably won't like it, though, coming from Windows) > > > > > > > I prefer XFCE4 > > > > Darrin - if possible, could you provide screenshots? > > http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ is the ion3 home page, with some > screenshots toward the bottom. It's somewhat spartan, but if you want > something that stays out of your way then it's very nice. It's like an X > version of screen, on steroids. :) > Try this website: http://xwinman.org/ It will give an idea of what is out there. If you are looking for a lot of bells and whistles...try KDE or Gnome. I personally like Fluxbox. http://fluxbox.org/ You have to remember that window managers/desktops are like ice-cream... some people perfer one flavor over another. So give some a try... -- FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 GENERIC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 05:00:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B8516A403; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF77043D45; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:00:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GLuxW-0003Za-TC; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:00:51 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5ADF05F6-58F0-4273-B1C3-29C26F92DCF8@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 23:00:50 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 05:00:52 -0000 On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to > push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes > reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then > OpenBSD ... > > Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Or maybe the FreeBSD users in Korea use their systems for real work and don't read this list or play these sorts of games... The Open/ Net/DFly users are hobbyists who like to play these games. I am not knocking the bsdstats effort -- just that lots of serious users with machines in production won't report back (I know I am not). Your sample is probably statistically invalid. best regards Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 05:07:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5019116A412 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr6.networksolutionsemail.com (omr6.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087F343D46 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:07:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr6.mgt.netsol.com [10.49.6.69]) by omr6.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k8957HYg024004 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 01:07:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 572 invoked by uid 78); 9 Sep 2006 05:07:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.1.60?) (racerx@makeworld.com@71.113.144.239) by ns-omr6.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 05:07:17 -0000 Message-ID: <45024C00.5030405@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:07:12 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> <5ADF05F6-58F0-4273-B1C3-29C26F92DCF8@shire.net> In-Reply-To: <5ADF05F6-58F0-4273-B1C3-29C26F92DCF8@shire.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=C01BC363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 05:07:20 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> >> Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to >> push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes >> reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then >> OpenBSD ... >> >> Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? > > Or maybe the FreeBSD users in Korea use their systems for real work and > don't read this list or play these sorts of games... The Open/Net/DFly > users are hobbyists who like to play these games. > > I am not knocking the bsdstats effort -- just that lots of serious users > with machines in production won't report back (I know I am not). Your > sample is probably statistically invalid. > > best regards > Chad > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Not to mention how many are vmwared. Does that count? Could it count? Would it count? -- Best regards, Chris A bird in the hand is dead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 05:33:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FD916A412 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A489043D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:33:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so882146wxd for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:33:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=oF+MuO6uEylD0pdsng6Vxu4k7ws2np8FkXt6RwW0SD3YBEjB0NNit6KZrRNPS0Tz9VQr735ylRplHLlenVCGgm3FJ8xGWvzCROPUffsXj8AEkrSWV19R6j5GdU7aHT68+WBJcqHxTZtGKAepPb/LNabTteAc98jbceMjJw/Hoe0= Received: by 10.70.59.9 with SMTP id h9mr1552305wxa; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.9 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0609082231h6ca20db0if55da7026090c2e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:31:46 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Can you install diablo-jdk for 6.1 on 6.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 05:33:35 -0000 Hi -- Can you install diablo-jdk for 6.1 on 6.0? One can no longer find the original package for 6.0 on the FreeBSD foundation web site. TIA. Henry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 05:52:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7882D16A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groundedforlife@verizon.net) Received: from smtp103.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com (smtp103.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com [209.73.179.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC66843D49 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groundedforlife@verizon.net) Received: (qmail 63019 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 05:52:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.45?) (argentina97@verizon.net@71.116.116.168 with plain) by smtp103.vzn.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 05:52:31 -0000 From: Napoleon Dynamite To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:52:33 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <8b4c81f0609082231h6ca20db0if55da7026090c2e5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0609082231h6ca20db0if55da7026090c2e5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609082252.33687.groundedforlife@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Can you install diablo-jdk for 6.1 on 6.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 05:52:33 -0000 I think there was a vulnerability on it, so I installed the Sun version of JDK 15 from ports and blackdown-jdk-14 instead. I wanted the package to avoid the long compile time, but it wasn't too bad. HTH, Eric Buchanan On Friday 08 September 2006 22:31, Henry Lenzi wrote: > Hi -- > > Can you install diablo-jdk for 6.1 on 6.0? > One can no longer find the original package for 6.0 on the FreeBSD > foundation web site. > > TIA. > > Henry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 06:43:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AADC16A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 06:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C57443D49 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 06:43:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 14037 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 16:43:37 +1000 Received: from 203-206-247-160.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.206.247.160) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 16:43:37 +1000 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 16:43:33 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060909164333.16641ecc@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:43:39 -0000 On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:18:44 -0400 "Dan Langille" wrote: > > Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push > > the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting > > from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... > > > > Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? > > Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have > signed up. > > I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular > reason. somewhat similar... i've got boxes here in AU which, for a reason or other, haven't added. how does bsdstat count jails, btw? :) B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome FAST, CHEAP, SECURE: Pick Any TWO I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 06:45:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4400E16A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 06:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1D643D55 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 06:45:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 14116 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 16:45:52 +1000 Received: from 203-206-247-160.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.206.247.160) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 16:45:52 +1000 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 16:45:49 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: "mark@nullshells.com" Message-ID: <20060909164549.44b53398@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4502287F.1010200@nullshells.com> References: <4502287F.1010200@nullshells.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:45:53 -0000 On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:35:43 -0400 "mark@nullshells.com" wrote: > >jail /home/jail/hostname hostname.net 192.168.1.101 /bin/sh > jail: execv: /bin/sh: Permission denied does /home/jail/hostname/bin/sh exist, and is it executable? _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Software isn't released.... it escapes. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:03:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCBB16A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yangwithinyin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFB643D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yangwithinyin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so897817wxd for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:03:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=KFjk1yJD3P9re2ofcxbDqm2didvvwFS/UoPLk7NSBn173QAFTGpSHoccwpZmepgW0wKITMSTOj/mQeOL2gognZ1rMRGgx+B371zyjoZM4yjRXhwDLxJhxTrvXtsak0Gk0RFAfmj9CLN23tNstQ74kMhruNXWw2gdTQutBUx4Ayc= Received: by 10.70.78.8 with SMTP id a8mr1668897wxb; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [24.62.166.207]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h8sm4031740wxd.2006.09.09.00.03.44; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45026825.7040109@nullshells.com> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:07:17 -0400 From: "mark@nullshells.com" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Norberto Meijome References: <4502287F.1010200@nullshells.com> <20060909164549.44b53398@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060909164549.44b53398@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: writhing within Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:03:46 -0000 Norberto Meijome wrote: >On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 22:35:43 -0400 >"mark@nullshells.com" wrote: > > > >> >jail /home/jail/hostname hostname.net 192.168.1.101 /bin/sh >>jail: execv: /bin/sh: Permission denied >> >> > >does /home/jail/hostname/bin/sh exist, and is it executable? > > No, thats the problem thank you. -Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:06:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56FC16A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yangwithinyin@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C4343D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:06:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yangwithinyin@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so898292wxd for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:06:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=FYNvppPU7OvOu8PU3B3Pl6L/bPD5iKRCpvL47BjAyAly+zhgFrZaE5MW/KFJYearNBdqVX/0FYnUyyVngmRnrwKyu9mYOkFcZgwDa8DmwuqRQQg6kMIcrtiequ92oZKduiBMU2wt5UnrPgU9U97GX/wkIE8mxWjEziXbz6E4ZaM= Received: by 10.70.87.5 with SMTP id k5mr1695468wxb; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [24.62.166.207]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h11sm3639124wxd.2006.09.09.00.06.31; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <450268CC.70002@nullshells.com> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:10:04 -0400 From: "mark@nullshells.com" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: writhing within Subject: jail removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:06:34 -0000 Hi, How do you remove a jail? I can't seem to find information about this. I've partially removed a jail and I want to start over and recreate it differently, but I'm having trouble removing files. Getting permission denied on some files I am unable to chmod to +w. Thanks, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:11:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A78216A412; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F3A43D4C; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:11:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CB81A3C20; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 74C9451649; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 03:11:13 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20060909071112.GA35677@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:11:21 -0000 --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:02:45PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >=20 > Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push= =20 > the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting= =20 > from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... >=20 > Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? So which korean freebsd mailing lists did you advertise bsdstats on? Kris --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFAmkQWry0BWjoQKURAvBgAKC5LNO/7CfHXYJJ7rjqOhVVZYMsuwCfRAaE O6/M/DWPcR2dLk0uSUK+3tw= =TJAr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:22:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60F516A403; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from mail22.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail22.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3CB43D46; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:22:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c220-239-234-69.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.234.69]) by mail22.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k897MkpB031530; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:22:55 +1000 Message-ID: <45026BCB.8060209@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:22:51 -1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:22:59 -0000 On 8/09/2006 3:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push > the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting > from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... > > Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Are you sure they weren't just hit by the same timezone issue affecting us Aussies...? :-) After all, DFly/Open/Net didn't start coming on board until after the monthly rollover that affected us in .au ... (For those wondering what all that means: the BSDstats server counted .au and nearby timezones into August's results, rather than September, because the BSDStats server's time was still in August when our machines started doing our monthly periodic run for September...) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:24:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EABF16A412 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B3143D5A for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:24:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c220-239-234-69.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.234.69]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k897NuEl028419; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:24:01 +1000 Message-ID: <45026C12.3010505@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:24:02 -1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Norberto Meijome References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <20060909164333.16641ecc@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060909164333.16641ecc@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:24:04 -0000 On 8/09/2006 8:43 PM, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:18:44 -0400 > "Dan Langille" wrote: > >>> Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push >>> the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting >>> from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... >>> >>> Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? >> Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have >> signed up. >> >> I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular >> reason. > > somewhat similar... i've got boxes here in AU which, for a reason or other, > haven't added. That issue has been addressed... us Aussies should start showing up as of next month's results (or re-run the submission manually if you can't wait :-). It was a timezone difference issue. Cheers Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:46:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07716A49E; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8987D43D73; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:46:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k897jjDW017989; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:45:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k897jjDW017989 Message-ID: <45027123.8000004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:45:39 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060909001340.G981@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060909001340.G981@ganymede.hub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA9FDECF86268367DC98447CA" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:46:06 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1832/Sat Sep 9 05:51:09 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:46:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA9FDECF86268367DC98447CA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc G. Fournier wrote: =20 > Reported devices right now doesn't work on the other BSDs, as apparentl= y > we are the only one that has a pciconf command :( But, here is a > sampling of systems information for those coming in from KR (that is > Korea, right?): >=20 > operating_system | release | architecture | count > ------------------+-------------------+--------------+------- > DragonFly | 1.6.0-RELEASE | amd64 | 17 > DragonFly | 1.0A-RELEASE | i386 | 16 > DragonFly | 1.1-Stable | i386 | 16 > DragonFly | 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 16 > DragonFly | 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 16 > DragonFly | 1.1-Stable | amd64 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.4.0-RELEASE | amd64 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.4.0-RELEASE | i386 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 11 > DragonFly | 1.0A-RELEASE | amd64 | 10 > DragonFly | 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 9 > DragonFly | 1.6.0-RELEASE | i386 | 9 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | macppc | 4 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | zaurus | 4 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | luna88k | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | mac68k | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | mac68k | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | mvme88k | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | mac68k | 3 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | macppc | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | vax | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | sparc | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.4 | cats | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | i386 | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | i386 | 3 > NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | mmeye | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.5 | sparc64 | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | sgi | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | cats | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc64 | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | hppa | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | cats | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | armish | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | alpha | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | hppa | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | macppc | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.7 | mac68k | 2 > NetBSD | 3.1_RC2 | shark | 2 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | sgi | 2 > NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | evbsh5 | 2 > NetBSD | 3.99.18 | i386 | 2 > NetBSD | 3.99.20 | evbsh3 | 2 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | i386 | 2 > NetBSD | 4.0_BETA | evbsh3 | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | i386 | 2 > NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | cats | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | armish | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | sgi | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.7 | sgi | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | sgi | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.4 | amd64 | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | luna88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.5 | mvme88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | amd64 | 2 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | luna88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | amd64 | 2 > NetBSD | 2.0.3 | algor | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | luna88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | zaurus | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.7 | vax | 2 > NetBSD | 2.0.3 | prep | 2 > NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | amd64 | 2 > NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | algor | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.4 | mvme88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | sparc64 | 2 > NetBSD | 4.99.1 | next68k | 1 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | sparc | 1 > NetBSD | 3.99.13 | sbmips | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | amd64 | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | vax | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | amd64 | 1 > NetBSD | 3.0_RC6 | sandpoint | 1 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | vax | 1 > NetBSD | 3.99.13 | playstation2 | 1 > NetBSD | 3.99.22 | hpcarm | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.5 | luna88k | 1 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | alpha | 1 > NetBSD | 2.0.3 | ews4800mips | 1 > NetBSD | 3.1_RC2 | cats | 1 > NetBSD | 2.1_STABLE | cats | 1 > NetBSD | 3.99.13 | pmppc | 1 > NetBSD | 3.0.1 | sgimips | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | mvme88k | 1 >=20 > So if they are playing games, they are sure going to an awful lot of > trouble to do it ... Interesting. The 300.bsdstats script seems to except OpenBSD and NetBSD from the device reporting stuff, but not DFly. That does look extremely consistent with the known supported platforms and versions of the various BSDs. As you say, if it is someone playing games, then they have gone to a great deal of trouble to invent realistic= data. On the other hand, if it is real, and since it seems to come from a single IP so we can assume it's all from one project or corporate entit= y, then it sounds like a very interesting project I'd like to hear more abou= t, and I'm sure that the advocacy@ crowd would love to present as a 'BSD Success Story' Apropos nothing else though -- can you add 'operating_system' columns along side the 'release' columns on the 'Releases' page. Counting OpenBSD 4.0 along with FreeBSD 4.0 doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA9FDECF86268367DC98447CA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFAnEp8Mjk52CukIwRCEYoAJ4ge3iofFeLh2DHualX51pfWnoL4QCeJ0gt zvdIYeB4PCqsaYlVyFklx+w= =smfL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA9FDECF86268367DC98447CA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:54:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4DD16A412 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A8743D5A for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:54:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 17474 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 17:54:17 +1000 Received: from 203-206-247-160.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.206.247.160) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 17:54:17 +1000 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:54:14 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Antony Mawer Message-ID: <20060909175414.4e20e113@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45026C12.3010505@mawer.org> References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <20060909164333.16641ecc@localhost> <45026C12.3010505@mawer.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:54:19 -0000 On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:24:02 -1000 Antony Mawer wrote: > That issue has been addressed... us Aussies should start showing up as > of next month's results (or re-run the submission manually if you can't > wait :-). It was a timezone difference issue. cool... though the issue i was referring to is that I can't be ar**d to install this tool on production servers... maybe should allow us to enter 'i also have these many other boxes'.... though, as many others have said, it seems a bit of a pissing competition... all the best, B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome We've been wrong so many times before, why stop now? I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:57:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9C116A415; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8B243D45; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:57:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AE0291AFE; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:57:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86507-10; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:57:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE08290C20; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:57:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id DC2285E824; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:57:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB9C5D1BB; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:57:39 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 04:57:39 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@ganymede.hub.org To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060909071112.GA35677@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20060909045234.W981@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> <20060909071112.GA35677@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:57:40 -0000 On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:02:45PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push >> the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting >> from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... >> >> Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? > > So which korean freebsd mailing lists did you advertise bsdstats on? There are korean maillng lists? :) And, I've been talking to Matt @ DragonFlyBSD, and he believes that the reports from Korea/China are bogus ... there is no AMD64 port of DragonFly ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 08:00:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6E116A4A7; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7635743D46; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:00:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k897xlCC018119; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:59:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k897xlCC018119 Message-ID: <4502746D.8010909@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:59:41 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060909001340.G981@ganymede.hub.org> <45027123.8000004@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45027123.8000004@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3626FE5E715E49A3E0E56D02" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:00:07 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1833/Sat Sep 9 07:09:50 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:00:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3626FE5E715E49A3E0E56D02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew Seaman wrote: > if it is real, and since it seems to come fro= m > a single IP so we can assume it's all from one project or corporate ent= ity, > then it sounds like a very interesting project I'd like to hear more ab= out, The other explanation that suddenly springs to mind is an IPv6 to IPv4 gateway. How widely deployed is IPv6 in Korea and neighbouring regions? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig3626FE5E715E49A3E0E56D02 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFAnRz8Mjk52CukIwRCI7/AJ9EAGcb0Gf1c3RC2EJP4x3HoK4H3QCeOXaB RANEWeIaYA3WYXeCXlLHPBQ= =wxe9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3626FE5E715E49A3E0E56D02-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 08:01:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B61F16A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A84943D72 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:01:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03360291B10; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:01:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91125-03-2; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:01:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6735B291B03; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:01:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 77C1260516; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:01:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7064E5E824; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:01:26 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:01:26 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@ganymede.hub.org To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <45027123.8000004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060909045857.C981@ganymede.hub.org> References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060909001340.G981@ganymede.hub.org> <45027123.8000004@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:01:32 -0000 On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Interesting. The 300.bsdstats script seems to except OpenBSD and NetBSD > from the device reporting stuff, but not DFly. > > That does look extremely consistent with the known supported platforms > and versions of the various BSDs. As you say, if it is someone playing > games, then they have gone to a great deal of trouble to invent realistic > data. On the other hand, if it is real, and since it seems to come from > a single IP so we can assume it's all from one project or corporate entity, > then it sounds like a very interesting project I'd like to hear more about, > and I'm sure that the advocacy@ crowd would love to present as a 'BSD > Success Story' Granted, but, after talking to Matt @ DragonFly, based on the fact that DragonFly doesn't have a port to AMD64 (it was a fork of FreeBSD 4.x) I've removed China/India/Korea from the list as 'overly suspicious numbers' ... :( > Apropos nothing else though -- can you add 'operating_system' columns > along side the 'release' columns on the 'Releases' page. Counting > OpenBSD 4.0 along with FreeBSD 4.0 doesn't make a whole lot of sense. All ready being worked on :) Each OS will have their own set of 'detail pages' ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 08:07:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489AA16A403; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDFB43D4C; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k8986gjZ018229; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:06:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k8986gjZ018229 Message-ID: <4502760C.70102@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:06:36 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060909001340.G981@ganymede.hub.org> <45027123.8000004@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060909045857.C981@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060909045857.C981@ganymede.hub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE3E0C8203E0DC4066541D025" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:07:02 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1833/Sat Sep 9 07:09:50 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:07:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE3E0C8203E0DC4066541D025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Granted, but, after talking to Matt @ DragonFly, based on the fact that= > DragonFly doesn't have a port to AMD64 (it was a fork of FreeBSD 4.x) > I've removed China/India/Korea from the list as 'overly suspicious > numbers' ... :( Ah well. I guess there will be a slight delay in the inevitable onward march of *BSD World Domination... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE3E0C8203E0DC4066541D025 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFAnYS8Mjk52CukIwRCD5uAJ4p/2E2tVEUQPzgrtHQ7ofiRTG14QCfbc4b tkZar23s0JQG3vbtcnO4UqU= =F1BB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE3E0C8203E0DC4066541D025-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 08:34:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8243116A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F7343D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7E7291B06; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:34:44 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90541-04; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:34:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F63290C20; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:34:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id E32BA608B3; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:34:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCDC5FAF1; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:34:48 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:34:48 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@ganymede.hub.org To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4502760C.70102@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060909051603.S981@ganymede.hub.org> References: <4501DE34.25561.1AFD75D6@dan.langille.org> <45022E30.4020905@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060909001340.G981@ganymede.hub.org> <45027123.8000004@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060909045857.C981@ganymede.hub.org> <4502760C.70102@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:34:48 -0000 On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> Granted, but, after talking to Matt @ DragonFly, based on the fact that >> DragonFly doesn't have a port to AMD64 (it was a fork of FreeBSD 4.x) >> I've removed China/India/Korea from the list as 'overly suspicious >> numbers' ... :( > > Ah well. I guess there will be a slight delay in the inevitable onward > march of *BSD World Domination... Total hosts reporting in so far in September is ~3x what did in August ... the numbers are growing quite well ... eventually, the hope is that 'false numbers' like that won't be near as obvious, since they will be a small percentage of the overall ... Maybe they *were* legit, maybe someone in Korea did an AMD64 port of Dragonfly and hasn't submitted patches *shrug* For those that are accusing bsdstats of being a "pissing match" ... I'm personally tired of watching Linux get all the support when, IMHO, the *BSDs are the better system ... the point of bsdstats is to show ppl that do not support the *BSDs (native Flash plugin anyone?) that their is a market they are missing out on ... There are currently ~2800 hosts out there that agree with that, and growing ... If by adding the other *BSDs to the stats adds competition between us, so be it ... same with the Country stats ... so be it ... it is (or should be) a healthy competition ... I don't grimace when someone tells me they are running one of the other BSDs, but I do when someone tells me they are running Linux ... Will it result in fakers screwing around with the numbers? Definitely, but over time, the hope is that they will become a statistically insignificant number within the overall stats ... If someone out there has a suggestion on how to man 'faking it' even harder, I'm definitely all ears though ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 09:24:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDB916A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hyeshik@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC8343D49 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hyeshik@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so868195uge for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:24:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T/orIRDegDGzG268bcJ6YMvn5J+mPnUEFAJZSPYc+jXCYiaDNyVnnU3zUX3R+y27Zc9eo+/CG0+QSEK5fp9NHhup+on7jnjSQjXixRJKL1Nr6urcs0v0O+tJSI49vdjsFYVFnE7/47NPOZ7suTpnzrvB/LtoEswzGidFp95OqYQ= Received: by 10.67.29.12 with SMTP id g12mr1541352ugj; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.40.15 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4f0b69dc0609090224n1571cc3bwc9487682c43e519@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:24:35 +0900 From: "Hye-Shik Chang" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <5ADF05F6-58F0-4273-B1C3-29C26F92DCF8@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060908220122.E96260@ganymede.hub.org> <5ADF05F6-58F0-4273-B1C3-29C26F92DCF8@shire.net> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:24:37 -0000 On 9/9/06, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to > > push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes > > reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then > > OpenBSD ... > > > > Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? There are some portal enterprises using FreeBSD such Yahoo! Korea, Dreamwiz and Neowiz. They each have more than 1000 hosts at least. > Or maybe the FreeBSD users in Korea use their systems for real work > and don't read this list or play these sorts of games... The Open/ > Net/DFly users are hobbyists who like to play these games. Many of Korean BSDers doesn't read the mailing lists at all. Some of them don't read even manpages. So there's no need to be surprised at the no-show on stats. :-) I just advertised bsdstats to the local BSD community. So there will few responses soon. Hye-Shik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 09:37:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EF016A47E for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from rescomp.berkeley.edu (keyserver.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D6C43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:37:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ccowart@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 6693C5B773; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:37:35 -0700 From: Christopher Cowart To: "mark@nullshells.com" Message-ID: <20060909093735.GG4139@rescomp.berkeley.edu> References: <450268CC.70002@nullshells.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HKEL+t8MFpg/ASTE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <450268CC.70002@nullshells.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:37:47 -0000 --HKEL+t8MFpg/ASTE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I've partially removed a jail and I want to start over and recreate it=20 > differently, but I'm having trouble removing files. Getting permission=20 > denied on some files I am unable to chmod to +w. Try 'sudo chflags -R noschg /path/to/jail'. I'm thinking the immutable=20 flag got set on something like var/empty. --=20 Chris Cowart Unix Systems Administrator Residential Computing, UC Berkeley "May all your pushes be popped" --HKEL+t8MFpg/ASTE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFAotfV3SOqjnqPh0RAmRZAKCfXrXVq1jNxhhn4gENbbL2uAKR2QCeKPiZ HHuAfFO6Y/mIx5+0LJjw2FQ= =Afpp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HKEL+t8MFpg/ASTE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:29:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8FD16A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from ix.khmerserver.net (ygmsmtp.khmerserver.net [203.82.224.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE30843D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:29:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from TSHBCIOKSRKHPC ([192.168.1.112]) by ix.khmerserver.net (rithy4uMailServer) with SMTP id k897PJmr007393 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:25:26 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) YGLCResent-Message-Id: <200609090725.k897PJmr007393@ix.khmerserver.net> YGLCMessage-Id: <200609090725.k897PJmr007393@ix.khmerserver.net> Message-ID: <002001c6d3e1$9107fd00$7001a8c0@khmerserver.net> From: "rithy4u- CEO" To: Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:28:31 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-YGMC-MailScanner-Information: Please contact YGMC IT Dept X-YGMC-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YGMC-MailScanner-From: root@rithy4u.net X-YGMC-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:28:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ipfilter dedicate firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:29:07 -0000 Dear all, I have tried to read some documents online and build my own firewall using = ipfilter enabled in my kernel. but now I want some idea regarding a coperat= e, dedicate firewall for company upto 250 users something. what should we d= o to get those type of firewall system? how to scale for it? what options a= nd things we should consider and config with this firewall server? Best regards, Richard Ben, CIO --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:47:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086DC16A47B for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from irc.maniac@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9127743D46 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from irc.maniac@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so1092942pye for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:47:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ZJae4KNhAzZWL33X5UZXyhejK3LyPsRmVqAzrNkWhbx/Pl+KlHG0Lq01L0w/ngSnXoUsvKTd6BvUz7emrse3iKsbWGY8f2Lthd1mxWCwANRRiWokLXSLz0qH9m5NFPKZs09KEGb+aOBfKToZYsb5e9hpOe6Yv1SA557VKIkcj3w= Received: by 10.35.88.17 with SMTP id q17mr4483955pyl; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.67.3 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 00:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a714a760609090047k3e83159fr9ea63f2220edb2eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 02:47:05 -0500 From: "Irc Maniac ." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:28:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Can I Get An Email Account? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:47:07 -0000 Can you hook me up with @freebsd.org? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 11:38:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B0F16A415 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200FE43D67 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:38:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1GM1A23AZl-0003Ru; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:38:11 +0200 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:40:19 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060909133138.Y1108@www.pukruppa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Subject: Simple Mailing List with Sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:38:16 -0000 Hi, I am experimenting with a simple mailing list setup for some (15 - 20) of my students, i.e. I put a line like this maths: user1, user2, user3, ..., /var/mail_archive/maths into my /etc/mail/aliases . The last entry produces a kind of archive file. Does anyone know an - equally simple - method to exclude/block everyone else from using this list? Of course, Sendmail users different from maths shouldn't be affected. Thanks and regards, Uli. ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 12:23:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1F116A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris.branch@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77D3143D4C for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:23:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris.branch@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Sep 2006 12:23:46 -0000 Received: from ip-117.net-82-216-243.rev.numericable.fr (EHLO kraft.network23.homeunix.org) [82.216.243.117] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 09 Sep 2006 14:23:46 +0200 X-Authenticated: #24323161 Received: from kraft.network23.homeunix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kraft.network23.homeunix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A60AB847 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:23:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 192.168.0.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user christophe) by kraft.network23.homeunix.org with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:23:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49770.192.168.0.2.1157804624.squirrel@kraft.network23.homeunix.org> In-Reply-To: <002001c6d3e1$9107fd00$7001a8c0@khmerserver.net> References: <002001c6d3e1$9107fd00$7001a8c0@khmerserver.net> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:23:44 +0200 (CEST) From: "Christophe Branchereau" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Importance: High X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: ipfilter dedicate firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:23:48 -0000 > Dear all, > > I have tried to read some documents online and build my own firewall using > ipfilter enabled in my kernel. but now I want some idea regarding a > coperate, dedicate firewall for company upto 250 users something. what > should we do to get those type of firewall system? how to scale for it? > what options and things we should consider and config with this firewall > server? > > Best regards, > > Richard Ben, CIO > -- Hint: you should consider running a VPN for those who travel and need to access the (secure) internal network from the (insecure) outside world. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html Regards -- Christophe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 12:31:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C8516A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EF343D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1GM1zC-000PnS-Mt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:31:02 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20060909093735.GG4139@rescomp.berkeley.edu> References: <450268CC.70002@nullshells.com> <20060909093735.GG4139@rescomp.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 06:31:02 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: jail removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:31:03 -0000 On Sep 9, 2006, at 3:37 AM, Christopher Cowart wrote: >> I've partially removed a jail and I want to start over and >> recreate it >> differently, but I'm having trouble removing files. Getting >> permission >> denied on some files I am unable to chmod to +w. > Try 'sudo chflags -R noschg /path/to/jail'. I'm thinking the immutable > flag got set on something like var/empty. And if that doesn't work you may be at a secure level that doesn't allow the changes to immutable flags. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 12:34:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A59016A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from data2@cablespeed.com) Received: from admin2.cablespeed.com (mail.cablespeed.com [216.15.205.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EC643D6D for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:34:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from data2@cablespeed.com) Received: from dummy.name; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:35:04 -0500 Message-ID: <007801c6d40c$806226d0$05dc3818@mdm246a3e4f6fc> From: "Jon Krause" To: "P.U.Kruppa" , References: <20060909133138.Y1108@www.pukruppa.net> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:35:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: Simple Mailing List with Sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:34:11 -0000 From: "P.U.Kruppa" Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:40 AM Subject: Simple Mailing List with Sendmail > Hi, > > I am experimenting with a simple mailing list setup for some (15 > - 20) of my students, i.e. I put a line like this > > maths: user1, user2, user3, ..., /var/mail_archive/maths > > into my /etc/mail/aliases . The last entry produces a kind of > archive file. > > Does anyone know an - equally simple - method to exclude/block > everyone else from using this list? Of course, Sendmail users > different from maths shouldn't be affected. > > Thanks and regards, > > Uli. > > ********************************************* > * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * > ********************************************* You may want to look at Mailman: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/mail/mailman/pkg-descr It sets up rather easily, is well documented, has a good mailing list/support. And it is very grainular in it's possible setups, allowing you to do just about anything you wish. Best, Jon > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 12:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D901C16A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E61843D4C for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:39:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from doc.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=srv.sem.ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GM27H-0000Aj-TF; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:39:23 +0400 Received: from bsam by srv.sem.ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GM29j-000Dlg-Az; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:41:55 +0400 To: vittorio References: <200609082125.08395.vdemart1@tin.it> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 16:41:55 +0400 In-Reply-To: <200609082125.08395.vdemart1@tin.it> (vittorio's message of "Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:25:07 +0000") Message-ID: <37574684@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread doesn't find a lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:39:28 -0000 On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:25:07 +0000 vittorio wrote: > Under freebsd 6.1 I have just portupgraded the ports acroread-7.0.8 and > libXfixes-2.0.1_2. > BUT > #acroread > /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while > loading shared libraries: libXfixes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No > such file or directory > What should I do? Which one of linux_base ports do you use? Have you read /usr/ports/UPDATING and follow all recommendations? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 13:35:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F1E16A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lisa@jellico.com) Received: from mail.jellico.com (mail.jellico.com [208.44.26.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EB144426 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:35:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lisa@jellico.com) Received: from lisac (lisa.jellico.com [208.44.26.213]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.jellico.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k89DfUmx029609 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:41:30 -0400 Message-ID: <002401c6d414$c7fb56d0$d51a2cd0@lisac> From: "Lisa Casey" To: References: <20060909133138.Y1108@www.pukruppa.net> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:35:14 -0400 Organization: Netlink 2000, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 127.0.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Simple Mailing List with Sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:35:37 -0000 Hi, Unless you can find a way to keep anyone else from sending mail to this = list, I don't reccomend doing this. We tried this several years ago as a way to send an email to all of our = ISP customers at once and quickly discovered that if one (or more) = computer on the list had a virus then everyone on the list started = receiving virus containing email. Now, of course, we stop viruses at the = server level before they reach the mail boxes but even so, you can see = how problems can crop up doing a mailing list this way. There are better ways. Someone mentioned Mailman. Also, do your students = pop their mail? If so, do you use Qpopper as your POP3 server? If you = do, you might look at Qpopper's bulletins feature. That is how we solved = this problem.=20 Lisa Casey =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: P.U.Kruppa=20 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 7:40 AM Subject: Simple Mailing List with Sendmail Hi, I am experimenting with a simple mailing list setup for some (15=20 - 20) of my students, i.e. I put a line like this maths: user1, user2, user3, ..., /var/mail_archive/maths into my /etc/mail/aliases . The last entry produces a kind of=20 archive file. Does anyone know an - equally simple - method to exclude/block=20 everyone else from using this list? Of course, Sendmail users=20 different from maths shouldn't be affected. Thanks and regards, Uli. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 13:37:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2018A16A412 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambrosehua@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6409A44445 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:37:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ambrosehua@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so379803nzn for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:37:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cESriBOq1V6PFZ1cZaUH3+oivqoI+HxR7/vIlYbXm2Jmk+oK0cP+BMolh1eU0gXysQQrcPmbRc813MXbYF7IPWDDnsjDmFP/bzNz66tfCDuKhQWb4O7qMO0qM1WikbNG3ESI4b9ekmLMRauczwnFIvIX4f0lRt/utPnBt4H7P0M= Received: by 10.65.251.1 with SMTP id d1mr126808qbs; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.231.19 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 06:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <56f562000609090637t4f87d82i117db620ccc13010@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:37:32 +0000 From: "ambrosehuang ambrose" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: #6.1 install problem#: can't find other linux partitions at the Partition Stage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:37:46 -0000 I had install Gentoo Linux on the /dev/hda (40G) , the partition table is as following: hda1 Primary Linux ext3 98.71 M hda5 Logical Linux swap / Solaris 1019.94 M hda6 Logical Linux ext3 8891.53M hda7 Logical Linux ReiserFS 3076.26M hda8 Logical Linux ext3 6925.69M Pri/Log Free Space 20003.89M I want to use the remaining 20G space to install FreeBSD 6.0-release . When I was installing freebsd 6.1-release at the Partition stage , the Partition Program can't find any linux partition or the free 20G space, but just displayed the whole disk. I used the same freebsd install disk on other machine , everythin goes well .Can't you tell me how to deal with this problem ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 14:01:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F9E16A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from talk.nabble.com (www.nabble.com [72.21.53.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AC843D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:01:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from [72.21.53.38] (helo=jubjub.nabble.com) by talk.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GM3P4-0001bp-KS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:01:50 -0700 Message-ID: <6224133.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:01:50 -0700 (PDT) From: mdeamonic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: ktheroot@gmail.com Subject: Problems after buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:01:52 -0000 Hi. CVSupped yesterday and rebuilt/installed world and kernel. Now my RELENG6 doesnt seem to read its configuration. I followed the procedure: make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel reboot mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster (installed all new files, stupid?) reboot Selected goodies from startup (sorry I had to 'handwrite' this) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- **HARDWARE STUFF LOOKS OK** Loading configuration files. source_rc_confs: not found Entropy harvesting:/etc/rc: WARNING: $harvest_interrupt is not set properly - see rc.conf(5) /etc/rc: WARNING: $harvest_ethernet is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). /etc/rc: WARNING: $harvest_p_to_p is not set properly -see rc.conf(5). swapon: adding /dev/ad13s1b as swap device swapon: adding /dev/ad6s1b as swap device Starting file system checks: /etc/rc: WARNING: $background_fsck is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). /dev/ad13/s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad13s1a: clean, 3949377 free (809 frags, 493571 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) **CHECKING THE OTHER FILESYSTEMS** /etc/rc: WARNING: $cleanvar_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). /etc/rc: WARNING: $atm_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). Setting hostname: . /etc/rc: WARNING: $ipfilter_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). /etc/rc: WARNING: $ipnat_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). /etc/rc: WARNING: $ipfs_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). source_rc_confs: not found /etc/rc.d/ipfilter: WARNING: $ipfilter_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). Starting devd source_rc_confs: not found source_rc_confs: not found source_rc_confs: not found /etc/rc.d/ipfilter: WARNING: $ipfilter_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). source_rc_confs: not found . . ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout Initial i386 initialization:/etc/rc:WARNING: $sysvipc_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This continues but afaik its just variations upon the same. "/etc/rc: WARNING: " + $something + " is not set properly - see rc.conf" and a frequent "source_rc_confs: not found" My rc.conf: --------------------------------------------------------------- hostname=troll.nomain ifconfig_myk0="DHCP" keymap="norwegian.iso" linux_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" rpcbind_enable="YES" mountd_flags="-r" usbd_enable="YES" keyrate="fast" lpd_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="YES" ------------------------------------------------------- I get no hostname, no networkand and no local keymap (unless I change it in sysinstall, works until I reboot), and I probably dont get a lot more. Also I cant start gnome, error: "libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object 'libSM.so6' not found, required by "libstartup-notification-1.so.0". %hostname returns a blank line When I move to a new console it display "FreeBSD/i386 (Amnesiac) (ttyvX) I never named my computer Amnesiac. I did a fsck in single user, nothing interesting. Hopefully you guys will do as usual and put me to shame by telling me how easy it is to fix :) Let me know if theres more info that could be usefull. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problems-after-buildworld-tf2244103.html#a6224133 Sent from the freebsd-questions forum at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 14:48:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D423716A412 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F9843D46 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:48:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o67so1224796pye for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:48:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=o/vaY7R33JVlgu+JBQEi9cfMuATFBwW3gsBVNHzUXkIHLhVpXlmCfxC9SJn67BWr6xz6/j7XHVMw7fvFllQjT8fkaDqqOPHrxAsgmaORp9JNgzq2/rqRQ2dz5dUJihNld+Lp5tjzU768YXTRSb/N9yVpjME1/WWMiDGlCYU1Uzs= Received: by 10.65.114.11 with SMTP id r11mr168939qbm; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.15 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:48:52 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "rithy4u- CEO" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <002001c6d3e1$9107fd00$7001a8c0@khmerserver.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <002001c6d3e1$9107fd00$7001a8c0@khmerserver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: ipfilter dedicate firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:48:53 -0000 On 9/9/06, rithy4u- CEO wrote: > > Dear all, > > I have tried to read some documents online and build my own firewall using > ipfilter enabled in my kernel. but now I want some idea regarding a > coperate, dedicate firewall for company upto 250 users something. what > should we do to get those type of firewall system? how to scale for it? what > options and things we should consider and config with this firewall server? > > you may want to try a dedicated firewall system like pfsense and monowall, they're based on FreeBSD, i for one use monowall. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 14:53:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D9416A412 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihilt@bluebottle.com) Received: from ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EEE43D5A for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:52:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ihilt@bluebottle.com) Received: from cpe-71-72-171-167.woh.res.rr.com (cpe-71-72-171-167.woh.res.rr.com [71.72.171.167]) by ms-smtp-02.ohiordc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k89EqqMx025937; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:52:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Graeme Hilt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:50:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <890E919AB0857D4A8A52A4AD5E0F0F6221A1C2@msc-server.msc.mcgregor-surmount.com> <945DB39F-ECC9-4872-9F5D-EC45BCD439CE@mac.com> <034201c6d20f$d044a5a0$0225a8c0@Wednesday> In-Reply-To: <034201c6d20f$d044a5a0$0225a8c0@Wednesday> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609091050.50141.ihilt@bluebottle.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: jdow Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:53:00 -0000 On Wednesday 06 September 2006 7:54 pm, jdow wrote: > >> Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, > >> where are these parameters stored? > They flat out are not stored anywhere. There is a standard algorithm > published by the VESA people, I believe, that provides the data for > all SCSI drives and modern IDE/ATA/SATA drives. Do you know the name of this standard or where I can get it? Ian Graeme Hilt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 14:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F09F16A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from ylpvm12.prodigy.net (ylpvm12-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1048243D5F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [75.28.100.62] Received: from [192.168.4.2] (adsl-75-28-100-62.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [75.28.100.62]) by ylpvm12.prodigy.net (8.13.7 out spool5000 dk/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k89EsQUF010563 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:54:27 -0400 Message-ID: <4502D5C0.2070902@chrismaness.com> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:54:56 -0700 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Automatic Script for /usr/src security updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:55:12 -0000 Is there an application that can be triggered by security advisory e-mails, or the like, to automatically do cvsup and rebuild the system? I know that would probably be a little difficult with the mergemaster command. Thanks Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 15:36:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332F116A49E for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from talk.nabble.com (www.nabble.com [72.21.53.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F168D43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:36:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from [72.21.53.38] (helo=jubjub.nabble.com) by talk.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GM4sT-000400-Ig for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:36:17 -0700 Message-ID: <6224955.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: mdaemonic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6224133.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: ktheroot@gmail.com References: <6224133.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Problems after buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:36:18 -0000 mdaemonic wrote: > > Hi. > > CVSupped yesterday and rebuilt/installed world and kernel. > > Now my RELENG6 doesnt seem to read its configuration. > ... > > Dont mind, running mergemaster again fixed it, sorry for the noise. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problems-after-buildworld-tf2244103.html#a6224955 Sent from the freebsd-questions forum at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 17:56:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0349F16A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.bikle@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA8943D67 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:55:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan.bikle@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1038565wxd for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 10:55:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FWO5wGBR6qrHGVu7xEjE+bxA40eCDJXnl5Ouc2/u9TkFsOXJ5NfCiSSNngcxUaEeqCa85S0jqlwvznsKxdxMhahPNUsSGSq3C8TEl5vbEf0O5sXZrczyRFenG45stmrWTdaYBAQnZ/SKx0tfXqcHud3gdoLby3DdwactjMs9ox0= Received: by 10.90.113.18 with SMTP id l18mr1266439agc; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 10:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.86.4 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <74252ed10609091048q40bdb8ble20c7e65130fef7b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:48:43 -0700 From: "Dan Bikle" To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org, rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <89e058bd07bdb796dde816832ab7f08c@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <89e058bd07bdb796dde816832ab7f08c@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: [Rails] SaltedHashLoginGenerator no such file to load -- iconv X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 17:56:04 -0000 Yep, I too have just bumped into this issue. I see it on a freebsd box: bash jake oracle /usr/local 12 $ uname -a FreeBSD jake.host.com 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 1 05:56:17 CST 2005 northtron@jake.host.com:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/JAKE i386 bash jake oracle /usr/local 13 $ I compared my bsd box to my Mac: bash jake oracle ~/o 24 $ find . -print|grep iconv ./lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/iconvcharset.rb bash jake oracle ~/o 25 $ which ruby /home/oracle/o/bin/ruby bash jake oracle ~/o 26 $ ruby -v ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-freebsd5.3] bash jake oracle ~/o 27 $ bash jake oracle ~/o 27 $ bash jake oracle ~/o 27 $ irb irb(main):001:0> require 'iconv' LoadError: no such file to load -- iconv from (irb):1:in `require' from (irb):1 irb(main):002:0> irb(main):003:0* quit bash jake oracle ~/o 28 $ bash maco-mois-powerbook-g4-17 maco /r 1 $ find . -print|grep iconv ./lib/ruby/1.8/doc/files/xsd/iconvcharset_rb.html ./lib/ruby/1.8/powerpc-darwin8.7.0/iconv.bundle ./lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/iconvcharset.rb ./share/ri/1.8/system/Iconv/iconv-c.yaml ./share/ri/1.8/system/Iconv/iconv-i.yaml bash maco-mois-powerbook-g4-17 maco /r 2 $ which ruby /r/bin/ruby bash maco-mois-powerbook-g4-17 maco /r 3 $ ruby -v ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [powerpc-darwin8.7.0] bash maco-mois-powerbook-g4-17 maco /r 4 $ bash maco-mois-powerbook-g4-17 maco /r 4 $ bash maco-mois-powerbook-g4-17 maco /r 4 $ irb irb(main):001:0> require 'iconv' require 'iconv' => true irb(main):002:0> quit bash maco-mois-powerbook-g4-17 maco /r 5 $ It looks like my Mac has some kind of iconv special sauce on it. I assume it was put there when I installed ruby. I'd like to find the said sauce for my freebsd beastie. -Dan On 8/16/06, Elliott Blatt wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to use the SaltedHashLoginGenerator as documented on > http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/SaltedHashLoginGenerator > > Ruby version: ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-openbsd3.9] > > I've the following commands: > > gem install salted_login_generator > gem install localization_generator > rails myapp > cd myapp > ruby script/generate salted_login User Localization > > All ran successfully. > I then created the databases and schema, without incident. > In theory, I should be able to hit my server: > > http://my.host.com:3000/user ..... > > Doing so, throws an error page in my face: > +----------------------------------- > + MissingSourceFile > + > + no such file to load -- iconv > +------------------------------------ > > There are many posts out there conerning this missing dependency for > windows, but none for *NIX. > > What is iconv and where is it missing from? ruby? rails? > > In either case, where do I get said file? > > > > > > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 18:33:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC08816A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9905543D62 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:33:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1047464wxd for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:33:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Zb8DdwizIZyMeJszXO/0a3/rSg7D3rqzAuIDujYj09cWC5mSr+WFxvMmmD166/k0cIN8La7iiqDe6JnQTD5spJ6LoZTS/Vvnj3PFPgMbvHa7LhbL6xuyPnf5mi+jfVKXH1Ve71FAPZfvmM4J4WB87TXNaW1DgACWP6zVwOM+8PE= Received: by 10.70.113.16 with SMTP id l16mr2709070wxc; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.9 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0609091133y1adb69c2p2fde4a46870b349d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:33:31 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: "rance@frontiernet.net" In-Reply-To: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060907121906.71wgo7l4zegws08o@webmail.frontiernet.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:33:36 -0000 > My problem is that when you add a printer via the web interface the > devices pull-down does not show a parallel port even if the system has > detected that there is a printer there. (ie dmesg shows the printer > discovery) > > so where is the parallel port? > Hi -- What I think you want to know is the "Device URI". If your printer is in lpt0, that would be: parallel://dev/lpt0 *However*, there's a bug report worth reading (I fixed this on my 6.0 - this is fixed in 6.1). Bug num. 99745 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2006-July/094331.html If you used 6.0, follow the instructions and your printer will be detected. I still remains with some other problems regarding CUPS...regarding ffomatic-rip. Hope this helped. Cheers, Henry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 18:38:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C4A16A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE7B43D5F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:38:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1048632wxd for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:38:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qi5rVJDHqwR/3u+XzXgEy4gQAdKwKK0OxSXucMADZNunoaOW5CB8AbepuMYUCQJXosB3I23RCbrbzfy/NkvFpRlzDCWvmirmuSbPR6UsNPFB61cT0SHF7xObpcvZxYxXvvTBh7Y0DWJ+MBBVZ22Eb+KYL3yRIFc1dphVfj5J67Q= Received: by 10.70.18.11 with SMTP id 11mr3116164wxr; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.9 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0609091138l7db0a418p5e1f281b72d27e47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:38:35 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0609082230q6d6fce01yf87ada022488f202@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8b4c81f0609082230q6d6fce01yf87ada022488f202@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Can't find foomatic-rip on FreeBSD 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:38:40 -0000 I sent this to cups-bug too... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Henry Lenzi Date: Sep 9, 2006 2:30 AM Subject: Can't find foomatic-rip on FreeBSD 6.0 To: cups-bugs@easysw.com Hello -- I am trying to get CUPS rolling on a FreeBSD 6.0 with a HP Deskjet 840C printer. I have installed cups and all "foomatics" from ports, as well as some other filters. I think there might be a bug. At first CUPS did not work because of the bug reported in: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2006-July/094331.html Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lpt0": Permission denied The bug fix in that report corrected this problem, and I guess FreeBSD 6.1 won't have that prblem anymore. The problem that remains now, however, relates to foomatic-rip. The printer is detected (Device URI is "parallel://dev/lpt0"), but when I try to print the test page, I get the following message: hp (Default Printer) "/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed" I have no idea as to what this means, since it seems the path is correct. Furthermore: machine# ls -l foomatic-rip lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27 9 Set 04:29 foomatic-rip -> /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip Any help is greatly appreciated. TIA Henry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 18:39:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5D116A47E for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0130E43D7B for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:38:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1048632wxd for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:38:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nzRAe0wv1oWXPmsYR7EVxgV69Z2pDOs3g8+vFmBoGitFue62tTpdTfjSHwKoi/7v72tLt3L1KtHMAqHVWBK5y8wkQ8Pr7moroLIgA+bHH+5MnwpwHHifxtUzDtnKevjhspMDHib4U9W8sDfGdrZipnozS9V9qQWbcKtT61MOEUE= Received: by 10.70.52.1 with SMTP id z1mr2679170wxz; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.9 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0609091137x6577f708ma9d893f7c9c34a3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:37:20 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: "Paul Mather" In-Reply-To: <1157653048.36687.8.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060907170628.8E30116A537@hub.freebsd.org> <1157653048.36687.8.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:39:10 -0000 > > I have this in my /etc/devfs.rules file on a system successfully using > CUPS with a parallel port printer: > > > [localrules=10] > add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups > > > (I also have 'devfs_system_ruleset="localrules"' in my /etc/rc.conf > file.) > > That makes sure that CUPS can access the lpt* devices (including the > lpt*.ctl devices). Mode 0660 also ensures that not everyone can access > lpt*, just root and members of the cups group (i.e., CUPS). > > Cheers, > > Paul. You solution in the same of the bug report I mentioned in another post in this thread. It refers to the bug report and fix in: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2006-July/094331.html I still have problems with CUPS. It borks complaining about foomatic-rip not being found, although it installed. Did you get a problem like that too? I have a HP Deskjet 840C on /dev/lpt0 Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Henry Lenzi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 19:10:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B5716A407 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1076443D55 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:10:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1056143wxd for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:10:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=D3xMKG/qj7x2yiNIUAD0djjInbZ/lQwtirJTXYqbrG0I++V7Qqj500q0cCqjZC8RrrCauDpvobv0jMcHx+jDdMMkxNudSMZrnmzEqXYGRi+FNhHE91LmE00I32CZB5CuEUk3gDA7rWA4016xU2++yVjv+sGqK/4iVeX0nJxJB2M= Received: by 10.70.11.5 with SMTP id 5mr2607236wxk; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.9 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0609091210s160742e6jb947428d541e2b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 16:10:57 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: CUPS borked, but apsfilter just works. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:10:58 -0000 Hi -- We has some CUPS questions this week (doesn't every Unix list? ;-) Anyways, CUPS keeps borking. Buggy, bugyy, buggy on FreeBSD 6.0 with a HP Deskjet 840C. And this in 2006. Apsfilter, OTOH, "just works". I just had to install the ghostscript-afpl (there are also ghoscript-gnu and ghostscrip-gpl). Just wanted to share my experience with other newbies. Cheers. Henry Lenzi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 19:18:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C54A16A416 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D04C43D67 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:18:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.84]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J5C00LCAAWHIT20@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml8so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.152]) by pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J5C00MM5AWHRZD0@pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J5C00LRNAWH9Y52@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 10092 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:16:57 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 21:33:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9D316A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26B143D49 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:33:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681AF291B04 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:33:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23695-03 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-137-86-60.eastlink.ca [24.137.86.60]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEA4291AFE for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:32:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id BF4F65C17D; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:32:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9C35C177 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:32:41 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:32:41 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060909183200.H10669@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: RSSreader: Recommendations Sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:33:10 -0000 Anyone suggest a good one that runs under FreeBSD? Thx in advance ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 22:22:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74D316A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847D343D69 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k89MMDGB022226 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:22:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:22:12 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060909183200.H10669@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060909183200.H10669@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609091722.13035.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: RSSreader: Recommendations Sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:22:20 -0000 On Saturday 09 September 2006 16:32, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Anyone suggest a good one that runs under FreeBSD? > > Thx in advance ... > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > _______________________________________________ im a kde user, so kaggregator works for me (which it also integrates into kontact). when i happen to anywhere else, i just use the "customized" google page, and just insert all the feeds i want to keep up with. hth, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 22:50:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E45E16A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B06043D4C for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so987735nfc for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:50:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sN6J2k7ngVggK90jSpgKE4/ieHzj0/EaDThbPU2lfcC90y0nJAAnYi1ZDTVsLRf2elX27QvE8upgvRtrccYQ6LS30AM7Jt3gOlwJ8HxfI4YIyDOTvw1/H8iT6BQ9ZpB3xRRYEPm9VpoPHCYO4aqsJPNC9CiiR0uYbEmRvXcRRCw= Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr6045953nfl; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.67.14 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:50:44 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "Ted Johnson" In-Reply-To: <20060908120438.724.qmail@web58403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060908120438.724.qmail@web58403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hell Installing OpenLDAP/Berkeley-DB/Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:50:47 -0000 On 9/8/06, Ted Johnson wrote: > Hi; > I tried to install OpenLDAP, but it needs Berkeley-DB and complained that the version installed was incompatible. I tried compiling it without Berkeley (using GNU instead) but it wouldn't. I tried installing Berkeley DB without Java (for simplicity's sake), but that didn't work. I tried moving that installation to where the ports would be but still no go. So I tried a make of the berkeley-db port but that complained it needed a Java plug-in that had to be loaded manually because of licensing restrictions. I don't know why BDB would want Java (check make.conf?). I've done several OpenLDAP/BDB installs recently and I never installed any kind of Java. -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 22:51:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3023916A40F for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3571D43D46 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k89MpYBI061775 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k89MpWbi061774 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:51:32 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060909225132.GA61712@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: what's the best way to re-install ports as packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:51:49 -0000 People, In trying to restore my original main box, since I'm running 6.1, packages are now available. A few days ago I began portupgradingg stuff. kde-lite and gnome2-lite among them. Turns out that several packages were 'not available' and my build-state was/is askew. I've gone back to compiling everything from src. I tried building only just the missing packages, but got errs and the portupgrade -fkPP was not happy. rsync capabilities and auto tar'ing of major config files is undergoing. (In fact, if 6.1 has a fatal trap, I'm prepared for it.) But having a strategy of upgrading ports on my other [5.x] servers, and on my new 6.1 would be *beyond* nice. Is there any consensus? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 20:11:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B5016A403 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: from web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F0AB43D53 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 30357 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Sep 2006 20:11:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HkxtunpgbFOHEpUzTM3AgIHOoWi+God18vRBxEdP0CIm+pXuQkK2UYLDKT3Q/IqI2ZZwB2V8RNRNRjQfDdgf6+t41Nx99vXicnMcyqiAIzSY/pftPS8723Rbr+NspFmvLcAVyfiNCvN8RmpJSMesEOT9d8GcweZbR6LzemkioSk= ; Message-ID: <20060909201151.30355.qmail@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.154.177.19] by web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 13:11:51 PDT Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:11:51 -0700 (PDT) From: stheg olloydson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:22:57 +0000 Cc: ihilt@bluebottle.com, jdow@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Origin of hard drive parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:11:53 -0000 On 9 Sep 2006 14:54:09 -0000 ihilt wrote: >On Wednesday 06 September 2006 7:54 pm, jdow wrote: > >> >> Ok. Maybe the better question is: in either case, C/H/S or LBA mode, >> >> where are these parameters stored? > >> They flat out are not stored anywhere. There is a standard algorithm >> published by the VESA people, I believe, that provides the data for >> all SCSI drives and modern IDE/ATA/SATA drives. > >Do you know the name of this standard or where I can get it? > >Ian Graeme Hilt Actually, the stardard is created by the T13 Technical Committee of the InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS), formerly the Accredited Standards Committee X3, Information Technology. Its standards are published by ANSI. The one you are looking for is ANSI INCITS 397-2005 AT Attachment - 7 with Packet Interface. You can download a pdf from techstreet.com for $30.00US. Just search for 397-2005. You can also get a free copy of a working draft of a standard withdrawn in 2002, X3.298-1996, from t13.org. While the information you are looking is unlikely to have changed between 1996 and 2005, you are in a better position to weigh the benefit to your project of saving $30.00US versus using possibly horribly wrong information. (It is a _working draft_ from 1996, after all.) HTH, stheg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com