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Date:      Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:50:21 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Dave <mudman@metafocus.net>
To:        Igor Roshchin <str@komkon.org>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ttyv for local only?
Message-ID:  <20040629174641.N47396@metafocus.net>
In-Reply-To: <200406282221.i5SMLMA06797@giganda.komkon.org>
References:  <200406282221.i5SMLMA06797@giganda.komkon.org>

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console none                            unknown off secure
ttyv0   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
# Virtual terminals
ttyv1   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
ttyv2   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
ttyv3   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
ttyv4   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
ttyv5   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
ttyv6   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
ttyv7   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"  xterm   off secure
---

I don't really see a problem here.  My mystery logins are actually still
continuing.  I'm going to see if I can code a mousetrap to find out who is
doing it.  I did a fresh source compile of world from the latest cvsup for
5.2.1 REL, and ran mergemaster to look for differing startup scripts...

No luck yet.  I wrote down the byte-sizes of sockstat, ps, and getty on a
piece of paper.  I'm going to watch them over the next couple of days.

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> You might want to check your /etc/ttys file,
> if it still shows ttyv* as for the console logins or for network logins.
>
> Igor
>
>
> Igor Roshchin
> System Administrator
> KomKon Sites
>
>
> > From igor@giganda.komkon.org Mon Jun 28 18:19:49 2004
> > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Dave <mudman@metafocus.net>
> > To: Neo-Vortex <root@Neo-Vortex.Ath.Cx>
> > Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: ttyv for local only?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmm, I think I am in some kind of trouble.  I have been getting login
> > errors on ttyv that definitely couldn't be me.  The only other person who
> > lives with me is my wife, and it isn't her either.
> >
> > qmail, popa3d, etc..   I am even getting them on my ftp too.
> >
> > If someone had root access, they should be able to know what I am running
> > on my system rather than trying these idiotic logins.  In fact, they could
> > telnet to my mail port and look for the Sendmail greeting to know that I
> > don't run qmail, or portping 125 to see if I am running any kind of POP3
> > server.  A piece of me feels it is just some internet sweeper that
> > mindlessly tries logging in or ftping to certain things, and moves to the
> > next IP address.  I am also wondering if it is just a syslogd thing that
> > the login failures were simply reported on ttyv2 rather than actually
> > happening there, but then why not ttyv0, which is the 'main' thing it
> > prints to?
> >
> > I recently just backed up my system so I'm not feeling that bad but....
> > but...  how?  There is no sense in making the same mistake twice.  I could
> > run cvsup, compile a fresh binary of sockstat and ps to see if anything is
> > running...
> >
> > I'll consider turning snp off and recompiling my kernel.  But that would
> > just get rid of the messages, not help me get to the heart of it.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Neo-Vortex wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmm, ttyv* is for local console's only (normally anyway) and ttyp* is for
> > > remote (ssh, screen, telnet, etc), are you sure some idiot didnt try to
> > > logon as qmaild in the third console when you wernt looking?
> > >
> > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Dave wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I get this in my security postings.
> > > >
> > > > Jun [undisclosed time] [undiscl.] login: 2 LOGIN FAILURES ON ttyv2
> > > > Jun [undisclosed time] [undiscl.] login: 2 LOGIN FAILURES ON ttyv2, qmaild
> > > >
> > > > As it turns out, I'm not running qmail :)  And if I did, it would
> > > > definitely have a nologin shell.  But that's beside the point-
> > > >
> > > > I have had a perception that ttyv was for local/console logins, and that
> > > > just "tty" was for remote logins.
> > > >
> > > > Is my understanding wrong here?
> > > >
> > > >
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