From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Apr 21 02:39:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01605 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 02:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01596 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:39:21 GMT (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from papillon.lemis.com ([192.122.138.250]) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA18652; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:09:12 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (grog@localhost) by papillon.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id OAA00858; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:35:12 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <19980421143511.22454@papillon.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:35:11 +0800 From: Greg Lehey To: dwilde1@ibm.net, Malartre Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A lot of idea --- Coordination References: <35397809.7D796AF1@aei.ca> <35397ED0.57BF7C0C@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <35397ED0.57BF7C0C@ibm.net>; from Don Wilde on Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 09:34:24PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 April 1998 at 21:34:24 -0700, Don Wilde wrote: > Other than the FreeBSD web site or something that needs official > permission from Jordan, or a 'port' that needs to be committed by an > official 'committer', guess what? We're it! Pick something you want to > work on, and go to it. Nobody official asked Mark Mayo to build his > database of articles and academia, he just took it on himself. Ditto the > tireless Greg Lehey and Doug White, who take so much of their time to > make -questions work for all of us. Frank Pawlak Started to take on the > task of coordination for -advocacy, but I haven't heard from him in a > few days. You'll have to get used to the idea that in a democracy > (almost anarchy?) like this is, some ideas get done and some don't. I've been wondering how to describe the social interactions in this project, and I'll probably wonder for a while longer, but here are a couple of observations: The FreeBSD movement is not a democracy. In a democracy, the majority wins. I think the FreeBSD movement is a good example where a democracy would be a Bad Thing. The FreeBSD movement is an anarchy. People go and do their thing, and many benefit from it. The classical problems of anarchies (people making their own laws and terrorizing their neighbours) is eliminated by the communication medium. Linux and FreeBSD have different structures, but they're much more similar than you might think. I wonder what the FreeBSD movement would look like if it were the size of the Linux movement. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message