From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Oct 7 19:20:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52D3E3FF20; Sat, 7 Oct 2017 19:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 580F7183A; Sat, 7 Oct 2017 19:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F053738; Sat, 7 Oct 2017 14:20:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 14:20:24 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: "K. Macy" Cc: "A. Wilcox" , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: future of sparc64 (was: Making C++11 a hard requirement for FreeBSD) Message-ID: <20171007192024.GA21581@lonesome.com> References: <20171005234149.GE8557@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <59D6CA6C.1040502@Wilcox-Tech.com> <20171007174124.GA20810@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2017 19:20:28 -0000 On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 07:06:29PM +0000, K. Macy wrote: > I think that FreeBSD needs to always have one big-endian arch IMHO it keeps things honest. fwiw, if you fix a port on sparc64 it will usually fix it on powerpc64 and vice versa (~80% correlation). But powerpc64 has a (hardware) future and sparc64 doesn't. I run both at home, but not the powerpc64 continuously. (Actually first typed "4U" it as "$U". Same idea.) So, I'm willing to help keep it going (and even loan a machine to the effort), but I am overcommitted in other areas already. mcl