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Date:      Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:08:49 -0800
From:      Ulf Zimmermann <ulf@Alameda.net>
To:        David O'Brien <obrien@NUXI.com>
Cc:        Bill Vermillion <bv@wjv.com>, "Julian Stacey Jhs@jhs.muc.de" <jhs@jhs.muc.de>, alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com>, dave bartels <dkbart@nwrain.com>, freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Word .doc format Not wanted.
Message-ID:  <20011108140849.F76838@seven.alameda.net>
In-Reply-To: <20011108083013.M76565@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@NUXI.com on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 08:30:13AM -0800
References:  <ml@db.nexgen.com> <200111081136.fA8BaJ001848@jhs.muc.de> <20011108103913.A59220@wjv.com> <20011108083013.M76565@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 08:30:13AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 10:39:13AM -0500, Bill Vermillion wrote:
> > > FreeBSD.Org list mandate & many FreeBSD readers, EG publicly
> > > defined formats: Ascii (or HTML if you must).
> > 
> > Even html is a pain for us who live in a text environment.
> 
> How?!?!?  Come on guys, this is the year 2001!  Geez, HTML is everything
> we demand -- an open format and a pure text one.  Stop using that 1975
> mail client and modernize.  Mutt + urlview + links(or lynx) works
> beautifully and lets you handle any type of ASCII-based format.  

I use mutt, but from a ssh connection. Mostly it will display HTML ok
as plain text, but often enough stuff is encoded wrong for mutt to
recognize and change it.
> 
> Shoot add antiword + xv + xv + xpdf to the mix and there is little I
> cannot read.  (I may loose .doc formatting, but at least I can read the
> text content)

Anything which causes to call an external program to be called and 
needs X or svga, no thank you.

> 
> I am not advocating HTML formatted messages in all cases, just those
> where the formatting is important.
> 
> > If I get a .doc format file that feel I must read, I must move it
> > to a Windows machine - which is used about 2% of the time - if I
> > need to see more than the plain text - which I can get through
> > 'catdoc' in the ports tree.  All formatting gets lost in that.
> 
> Try 'antiword', it actually maintains the formatting well (at say the
> memo complication level).
> 
> -- 
> -- David    (obrien@NUXI.com)
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-- 
Regards, Ulf.

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