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Date:      Wed, 16 May 2007 22:55:04 +0200
From:      Roland Smith <>
To:        Paul Schmehl <>, FreeBSD Questions <>
Subject:   Re: Best remote backup method?
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On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 10:27:35PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 01:38:13PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> >  I'm presently backing up two servers in a remote location to a usb dri=
> >  located elsewhere by using rsync over ssh (all three are FreeBSD boxes=
> >  After the recent discussion about dump, I'm wondering if I would gain=
> >  anything by using dump rather than rsync.  Has anyone used both?  Any=
> >  thoughts as to which is "better" and why?
> >=20
> >  The rsync command I use is:
> >  rsync -avz ${LOCALDIR} -e "ssh -i ${KEY}" ${REMOTEHOST}:${REMOTEDIR}
> With dumps it is easier to keep different ones around. If you rsync a
> directory, all previous changes are lost. If you rsync to a different
> directory every time to keep different versions, you might as well use
> tar, because rsync won't save a lot of space/time in that case. And dump
> will backup all ufs2 features such as flags and acls. I'm not sure if
> rsync can manage that. It's also easy to compress dumps, which can save
> a lot of space.
> But if you need to lift a single file from a backup, it might be easier
> with rsync, although dump has an interactive mode to select stuff to
> restore as well.
> A compelling reason to use rsync would be if the file system that is to
> be backed up is so large that more than one backup won't fit on your
> backup disk anyway. In that case rsync can save you a lot of time.

And, if you _really_ screw things up, like 'rm -rf foo *'
instead of 'rm -rf foo*' from /usr/bin, bunzip2 and restore are right there
in /rescue, while rsync isn't. And getting rsync to work when /usr/bin is
hosed is quite a lot of work (no compiler etc).

And yes, these things happen (speaking from personal experience). :-(

So making backups with something that is available in /rescue or on the
boot CD is definitely a huge plus. Because if you need those backups,
chances are you need them badly.

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