Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:13:02 -0800 From: jekillen <jekillen@prodigy.net> To: Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Install with modified kernel? Message-ID: <808cec7836b73571a7222ba8e8509bd3@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <4609F4C1.1070101@u.washington.edu> References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0703271735110.8636@hymn07.u.washington.edu> <79227522eb86a480d8cd74302d4b9213@prodigy.net> <4609F4C1.1070101@u.washington.edu>
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On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > jekillen wrote: >> >> On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:35 PM, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, jekillen wrote: >>> >>>> Hello: >>>> Is it possible to install FreeBSD ( in this case v6.2 GENERIC >>>> RELEASE) with a modified kernel? >>>> I am having some network problems with an installation on ASUS N2M32 >>>> WS pro (AMD64) mb. >>>> I want to try installing without fire wire emulation support, which >>>> means I have to modify the >>>> kernel to eliminate it. But if I install and then modify the Kernel, >>>> it will have made its mark. >>>> Please forgive me it this seems like a stupid question. It probably >>>> is but I just want to be >>>> certain. >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> Jeff K >>> >>> Jeff, >>> Of course you can! Please read this chapter in the handbook, >>> which >>> describes the process in great detail: >>> <http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ >>> kernelconfig.html>. >>> >>> As for the "network problems", what exactly are you experiencing? >>> -Garrett >>> > > Hehe.. fun... it appears that I probably got myself into a real mess > with the hardware I just purchased (ATI card, Soundblaster X-Fi card, > Asus motherboard full of nForce stuff :(..). Oh well, I've learned my > lesson I suppose *sign*. > > You should probably tell what you told me to the questions@ list > though. I'm not the only one in the freebsd community, ya know ;)? > -Garrett There's more, as a matter of fact, I should write an FYI. It involves much more than just the interface problem. Here goes: I made the mistake of thinking I could use a 64 bit PCIx SCSI adapter in PCIe slots. Now I have one MSI motherboard, AMD64 socket 939 processor and 1Gb of DDR ram I can't use the SCSI card with. So I found this ASUS ($309+) board, It has PCIx slots, two of them. I also had to get another AMD64 processor for it with AM2 slot. I also had to get another Gb of DDR2 RAM. I started assembling the thing and had trouble with the cdrom (ata) drive. It turns out that this board is picky about what ata connector it is plugged into. It is not the one that is usually right next to the power connector (20 pin). it is one further down the board and faces not up from the board but toward the front of the case. It has 3 black SATA bus connectors and 6 orange SATA connectors. I thought the black connectors where for internal drives, It turns out that they are for external drives and I should have plugged in the SATA drive I am using to boot the system into one of the orange connectors. The SCSI stuff works fine; 15k rpm with backplane adapters from 80 pin to 68 pin, I have been through this obstacle coarse before so I was already prepared. Ok, Now it was time to discover the networking problem. First was that the onboard lan is not supported directly by FreeBSD. All I got in the way of interfaces to configure by sysinstall was fwe0 (firewire ethernet emulation). I went looking for inet cards that would work in PCIe slots. The motherboard only has on standard PCI slot and I have a video card installed in it. I find the Intel cards that are made to work in PCIe lane one slots. I go to install them and one of the lane one slots is blocked physically by a copper heat sink assembly on a nearby component. I cannot use that lane one slot. I ended up putting the two Intel cards in the PCIe lane 16 slots. Now I get the system installed and go to the Apache site and get a v1.3.37 tarball and to the php site and get a v5.2.1 tarball, I go get Openssl and mod_ssl and the php gd module and a binary distribution of MySQL (first one specifically for FreeBSD that I had seen). So configure, build and install went fine accept for a few dumb mistakes on my part with Apache, but I got it together. I got all the stuff built and installed to be used with php , mcrypt, gd with freetype and all that. It went well. Then I go to build and install php. Now the next problem: Php goes all the way through the configure, make and make install without complaint. It is being built as a DSO for use with Apache, which means that a file called libphp5.so is supposed to be created and placed in Apache's libexec dir. NO FILE BY THAT NAME SHOWED UP ANY WHERE. I tried it again, same thing, I went and got a tarball I had around of php 5.1.2 and tried that, Same thing; no llibphp5.so and am talking find / -name libphp5.so -print; nothing. I have posted these problems. But the first time I mentioned on this list that I had bypassed ports to install from source I was told that if I do that do not come to this list with problem. I can really understand that and I have had specific and impatient reason from bypassing ports. But, common now, why would php configure, make and install without errors and not produce a critical file for its operation.? As a matter of fact the last few posts about this (networking) have been ignored, Actually your response has been the first on this subject (networking problem). Um... I take that back, I did get reference links to the patch and driver for the Nvidia interfaces. I was not planning on getting into kernel modification, but necessity pressed me in that direction. I even had a problem the first time. I had commented out a bunch or wireless networking related stuff and the build failed. I did not at first understand what all the errors were about but after picking over them and recognizing numerous references to IEEE80211, I deduced that that was the wireless stuff I had eliminated. It effected the compilation of the USB stuff, where the errors occurred. So I presume that I got all the stuff in place for the Nvidia interfaces. I have reported the situation as it stand. Are you beginning to see why; "In The Trenches With Tech related Mailing LIsts (and other tech related subjects)"?
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