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Subject: Re: Noisy make -j output
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David O'Brien wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 04:01:04PM +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> After a fresh buildworld on a system last built in November:
>> hydra2# make buildworld -j8 -s
>> --- upgrade_checks ---
>> --- make ---
>> [...]
>>
>> Why the extra-spammy output now?
> 
> It's the intended operation of pmake/bmake from 4.4BSD.  One reason I
> believe we haven't trusted 'make -j' in the past is it can be very hard
> to unwind the output when there is a build error.  It turns out this is
> because dg in the past neutered them (presumably he didn't understand
> their value).  After having used a bmake with the stock behavior I've
> seen how valuable the markers are.

I consider the change to be exposing debug-level information that is too 
noisy to be on by default.  Also I'm concerned that you've broken things 
that expect 'make -s' to actually be silent.

Kris