From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Oct 19 22:39:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C33CC192AF for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22a.google.com (mail-it0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1338C9F9 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id 66so48846614itl.1 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:39:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=PeZ/qie/TnDZLEspM55S8CjEJT9OfpN4FP06dHuAfT4=; b=K8Fdrq/oEZxareKTWy4996U18AB7CDmLYCvIlnJmUvc5C4/pMI5DfysKk+qiy6JJd9 vUje/vNasURuXfLcsveKwGTzL81WtwdxzxpDGePRHgW1R3Nv3bRlvTy4dHMc74AfziIl IS9GyUSzxRATLMClFAx5fCPcy7LVTVw4XFaEEWbKLfTCYmybODJD8oCdbDonp96qs/g+ 0RLwFSW9G6e3NdJf/H0V4fTP3qjCGJ5Nzf7S0gxnIPbKxxy01xAbEJRji4k2TKMjbpmx aQb81PhDe5g2hjhkEl5nLKYeQx4jzWaCrXhIyRH57Rl2XwUqQfxmh19SGKNqHX55kcRv Qsag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PeZ/qie/TnDZLEspM55S8CjEJT9OfpN4FP06dHuAfT4=; b=m48BbgbObq0/7KgBSi0Zfj+IdiFScY0nPYFuw5JHzATN/+AEyUdY9Z9aeEic1v9dFL ynwz2eeJhXS5+tJu+bQ8u3hGgu+eVMpDGHqUI2FXu6FpqZdbiXxxMYwqMWKqeRsWxV51 bhGXrLGD9gAIHbuziWP5CaIq+F5G7qqcxMMOY1vYgLdU/sUfhHPVZoBoMJk95QaKmnVN ADNyAcUZSXSyMCnzYnSeeg4IRecHkYoIjc1wmZgFaPLNi2DTR0DTk9r9qcToxHxqexlf 09YniVT+YO8L3mjO+6LLAv/U5NZugeApzI5aPVdIjAOwQafYQRAW0BkhA6+9+jDdkTSX jVgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RkPY4l1vcgmhReh/h9nSPw6tDvnArWYjxyvRoqfq5JvqosZdsh939gjM10i1+hP6cs0FWJll6lSSMCgUg== X-Received: by 10.107.15.222 with SMTP id 91mr9383090iop.19.1476916753472; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:39:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.77.85 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:39:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [50.253.99.174] In-Reply-To: References: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:39:12 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _UAUrMbZsbmV60m5yMKRiNlPJy0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I'm upset about FreeBSD To: Rostislav Krasny Cc: freebsd-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:39:14 -0000 On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Rostislav Krasny wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 21:57:29 +1100, Ian Smith wrote: >> >> If FreeBSD GPT images (and Kindle readers) can trigger this, so could a >> theoretically unlimited combination of data on block 2 of USB media; >> modifying FreeBSD to fix a Windows bug should be out of the question. > > Not modifying FreeBSD and not fixing Windows bug but modifying the > FreeBSD installation media and working around the Windows bug to let > people install FreeBSD without disappointing at very beginning. Why > GPT is used in the memstick images at all? Why they can't be MBR > based? I think they can. Can't boot UEFI off of MBR disks on all BIOSes. Warner