From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Aug 22 4:55:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C566714E44 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 04:55:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id UAA00881; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:54:09 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37BFE355.5EE72B11@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:47:33 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE quirk in 3.2-STABLE kernel ? References: <001201bedfb8$92fa3440$88291fac@wipro.tcpn.com> <37AA75DD.3F3DD365@softweyr.com> <37AB8B48.4A79197B@tig.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris wrote: > > I am glad to hear from Soren that this 'misconfiguration' will be > supported in 4.0 > As always when a misconfiguration (read 'not to spec') is used enough > then it quickly becomes somewhat of a de facto standard. Old message, but still in need for reply. Yeah, like isa shared irq's which are no longer supported by Windows, or pcmcia card removal without previous deactivation which is no longer supported by Windows, but were all "de facto" standards. What happens is that these "de facto" standards usually work only by accident, only with certain hardware configurations, only with certain loads, and/or only if the operating system adheres to certain restrictions (like not being truly multitasking). FreeBSD's main target is servers. Sure, we do care about desktop, despite the common claim that we leave that to Linux. But the *main* target is servers, and if supporting a "de facto standard" will detract from support for server configurations, we will *not* support it. Alas, in most case is just a matter of making options for buggy hardware/bios/whatever. But, again, people working on FreeBSD is most likely to devote their time to making *good* hardware work than making bad hardware work. And the same applies for the case above. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org - Come on. - Where are we going? - To get what you came for. - What's that? - Me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message