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Date:      Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:56:28 -0700
From:      Ian Lepore <freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org>
To:        perryh@pluto.rain.com
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: flowtable usable or not
Message-ID:  <1330793788.10695.60.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
In-Reply-To: <4f525035.FeXsLHWGEs0tQIdS%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
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On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 09:09 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> H <hm@hm.net.br> wrote:
> 
> > ... Forever installing FreeBSD Desktop, either KDE or Gnome,
> > was a nightmare process, or better, to make it appear on screen
> > was a nightmare.
> 
> I have never understood the point of KDE or Gnome, other than
> (perhaps) as eye candy for the uninitiated.  If I wanted a
> Windows desktop, I would install Windows.  If I wanted a Mac
> desktop, I would use a Mac.

I've been getting paid to develop software since 1975 -- I'm hardly what
you would call "the uninitiated."  I couldn't imagine working without a
fully functional desktop environment.  Look at a calendar, it's 2012.
Maybe you long for a return to punch cards and fanfold greenbar paper,
but I'm not going back there.

It's exactly because I don't want a Windows or Mac desktop that I use
gnome.  (I used to be a Mac user, starting in the 80s, but Apple lost
their way during their struggle to survive 10 years ago.  Soon you won't
be able to boot a Mac without an account at the iTunes store, and my
last Mac will go into the e-cycle pile at that point.)

-- Ian





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