From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Apr 20 1: 1:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A79514C1B for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA22621; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:29:16 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id RAA45852; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:29:16 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990420172915.D40482@lemis.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:29:15 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: You can take my source. (fwd) References: <19990420164530.A40482@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Alfred Perlstein on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 02:51:00AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 20 April 1999 at 2:51:00 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 20 April 1999 at 2:08:39 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>>>> * without specific prior written permission. >>>>> * >>>>> * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND >>> >>> .. >>> >>> constitute the way that most of the BSD license works? >> >> This part does. Unfortunately, the license you sent included not just >> the Berkeley License, but also an AT&T license. The bit I quoted at >> the very top (USL license) is definitely *not* part of the Berkeley >> license, and in fact closer to the licenses to be found in System V >> sources. >> >>> I'll retract the statement if you disagree as i do value your judgement. >> >> I think you'll understand now. >> >>> perhaps you would like to go over the email with a red pen (sorta) and >>> i'll submit a revised post? >> >> Hmm. I don't have the whole message any more, but I think the rest is >> OK. Just to be sure, I think this is pretty much the basis: >> >> * Copyright (c) 1990, 1993 >> * The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >> * >> * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without >> * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions >> * are met: >> * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright >> * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. >> * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright >> * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the >> * documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. >> * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software >> * must display the following acknowledgement: >> * This product includes software developed by the University of >> * California, Berkeley and its contributors. >> * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors >> * may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software >> * without specific prior written permission. >> * >> * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND >> * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE >> * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE >> * ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE >> * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL >> * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS >> * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) >> * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT >> * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY >> * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF >> * SUCH DAMAGE. > > So I should just tell them that I am retracting the part about the license > and give them this instead? Or do you know of a better example? I think you should say that you accidentally sent them a version which included a USL clause, and that that part is not part of the Berkeley license. But maybe we should wait a while and let somebody else come to word. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message