From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 17:02:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFE11065671; Tue, 27 May 2008 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from smtpoutm.mac.com (smtpoutm.mac.com [17.148.16.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A398FC19; Tue, 27 May 2008 17:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtp012-bge351000 (asmtp012-bge351000 [10.150.69.75]) by smtpoutm.mac.com (Xserve/smtpout020/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id m4RGhGNP028737; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:43:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from macbook-pro.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp012.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K1J00HWDD42T350@asmtp012.mac.com>; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5229B4D7-40F0-4D45-93F1-244FA05E0304@mac.com> From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Julian Elischer In-reply-to: <483BC27C.6010102@elischer.org> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:43:12 -0700 References: <51989.1211875439@critter.freebsd.dk> <483BC27C.6010102@elischer.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Ed Schouten , current@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org, Poul-Henning Kamp , Robert Watson , Ade Lovett , net@FreeBSD.org, "Bruce M. Simpson" Subject: Re: HEAD UP: non-MPSAFE network drivers to be disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:02:33 -0000 On May 27, 2008, at 1:12 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > judging by the bug reports when things get broken there are still a > lot of people connected to the internet via dial up lines in places > off the beaten track, and still a lot of people who when travelling > do use dialup still. Some of these also use mpd. I can not say how > many plan to keep using this in the future but it may be that the > simplest answer is a completely separate sio driver that > just has netgraph hooks. I haven't talked with Ed yet but there > may be may ways to solve this problem. Take a look at uart(4). It has been designed to allow different kernel interfaces. It currently supports TTYs and keyboards. It should not be too hard to have it hook into netgraph. FYI, -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com