Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:10:05 +0300 From: "Vladimir Tsvetkov" <npacemo@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java on the BSD Desktop? Message-ID: <666bdb140705300810ufb4ab0foaed728963a55c759@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <666bdb140705300405j5853228dsdca557a52aed8031@mail.gmail.com> References: <465B86F9.3000001@voidmain.net> <465BFD6F.5090507@netfence.it> <92bcbda50705290356g70381411m185d9067fa1c3c60@mail.gmail.com> <20070529192433.GC38336@demeter.hydra> <92bcbda50705300300g1edba3acg5517aa737be53c5b@mail.gmail.com> <666bdb140705300405j5853228dsdca557a52aed8031@mail.gmail.com>
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On 30/05/07, Vladimir Tsvetkov <npacemo@gmail.com> wrote: > > When we talk about portability of User Interface applications with rich > interactivity we must also put into disscusion Adobe Flash and Adobe Flex > applications. > Adobe is working on its Apollo platform (huge part of it is open source - > http://www.podtech.net/home/2827/the-architecture-of-flash), which should > bring RIA into the desktop as a front end technology and leave to us the > choice among the diverse flavours of back end technologies. > > To my oppinion Java is more suitable for back end solutions. The level of > interractivity of Java GUI apps is around the standard for the most wide > spread applications, but it is still way to far from being competitive to > the richness in human-computer interaction, that we can design and use with > Flash/Flex apps. > > I would like to see a native FreeBSD Flash player. > > This is the main reason I'm getting into this disscussion. > > There is a Flash player for the Macs and for the Linuxes, we need also a > native Flash player. > > Best Regards, > Vladimir Tsvetkov, > http://www.gugga.com/ > > On 30/05/07, n j < nino80@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I guess if everyone here on this list gives his/her two cents to this > > > topic we're having a nice java advocacy flame war. ;-) > > > > The main characteristic of a flame war is to disparage other people's > > arguments while maintaining that your arguments are the best, no? > > That's why I'm not going to try and talk anyone out of their poison > > :-), be it C, Python, Perl or C#/Mono. > > > > Rather, I would like to continue a constructive discussion by speaking > > from a personal experience. I apologize in advance if this is OT even > > though it is FreeBSD-related and this list does see a lot of > > shell/perl/... questions, so I don't see why a Java question should be > > illegitimate. > > > > First off, in my company we had a Java app (simple app, working with > > database and e-mails) written for Windows. And then, there came > > company decision to make Linux the default desktop solution. Java app > > worked like a charm with no changes whatsoever. > > > > Second, I'm running a custom-written Java server app on a FreeBSD > > server for over half a year in production plus many months before that > > in development. It works rock solid on Diablo JDK. Of course, we also > > have a GUI desktop app that connects to this server that works on both > > Windows and Ubuntu. > > > > I completely agree that Sun's licence is a hassle. Fortunately, in a > > year or two, we're going to have an open source Java platform meaning > > there will be no hassle with manual download while installing JRE/JDK. > > Combined with the great API, object-oriented nature of the language, > > free IDE for serious development (Eclipse and specifically Netbeans > > with a very capable Swing GUI visual editor) - this combination > > strikes me as something only Microsoft can compete with. > > > > Another .02, > > -- > > Nino > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >
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