From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 15 0:10:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759C637B401; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [216.187.87.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5D943EA9; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB9FAAE4E2; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-11-24 - 2002-12-14 Message-Id: <20021215081002.BB9FAAE4E2@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 6-Dec : PostgreSQL - removing foreign keys Things are getting easier http://freebsddiary.org/postgresql-dropping-constraints.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 15 1:46:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E424237B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (h24-76-58-215.vf.shawcable.net [24.76.58.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 686F143EC2 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:46:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kara_smith131px515@hotmail.com) Reply-To: Message-ID: <025c45a85a6e$6671a5a6$0ba21eb0@kkubyi> From: To: kara_smith131@hotmail.com Subject: How are you doing ? Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:24:07 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi my name is Kara I saw your profile on the internet I was wondering if you were still single. If so we should chat or even hook up. If intrested send me a email to kara_233_smith_6@hotmail.com and I will send you some pics and then we can set up dinner or even a movie. Hope to here from you soon always Kara 1600BJFp0-409Ml13 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 15 9:33:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8671237B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.ovis.net (ns1.ovis.net [207.0.147.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACAA43EA9 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:33:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chromexa@ovis.net) Received: from ovis.net (s20.pm5.ovis.net [207.0.147.87]) by ns1.ovis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0763B6F; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:32:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3DFCBE18.C7D550FE@ovis.net> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:38:33 -0500 From: Steve Kudlak Reply-To: chromexa@ovis.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD ezn/58/n (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How are you doing ? (Amusing so far) References: <025c45a85a6e$6671a5a6$0ba21eb0@kkubyi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kara_smith131px515@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi my name is Kara I saw your profile on the internet I was wondering if you were still single. If so we should chat or even hook up. If intrested send me a email to kara_233_smith_6@hotmail.com and I will send you some pics and then we can set up dinner or even a movie. Hope to here from you soon always Kara > 1600BJFp0-409Ml13 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Hmmm the freebsd mailing lists probably have like hundreds of subscribers. Does entity want to have dinner with all of us. Movie tastes must vary widely too. Hmmm there is a Linux movie, I wonder if there is a FreeBSD movie? Hmmm but bots make boring dinner companions. Intelligent post movie conversation is currently beyond their ken. Hmmm Ray Kurzweil where are you when we need you!;) Hmm if there is a "Smarter Child" is there a "Seductive Whatever"? The alphanumeric garbledegook really gives it away. Also the stuff in the headers. Does anyone read the headers anymore or is that a lost art? I would hope on BSD Newsgroups people actually were interested in such arcana of networking. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 15 16:27:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6B837B419 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BBF43EA9 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:27:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a141.otenet.gr [212.205.215.141]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBG0QuEP011630; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 02:26:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBG0QG1R015298; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 02:26:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBFHgcd1010503; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:42:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:42:37 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Shyam Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SysRq on BSD ? Message-ID: <20021215174237.GI9246@gothmog.gr> References: <001501c2a36c$60c65000$16ba09ca@u4k8x8> <20021214175243.GA36106@gothmog.gr> <001201c2a3f3$9967eae0$e8a709ca@u4k8x8> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001201c2a3f3$9967eae0$e8a709ca@u4k8x8> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-12-14 17:49, Shyam wrote: > > In Linux , you have the Magic keys Alt + SysRQ + s,u,b,o,u,t,.... > > What are they for? I seem to remember they weren't there (or I didn't > know abou them) back in 1998 when I started using FreeBSD. > > Anywhere we could find a description of their use? On 2002-12-15 10:05, Shyam wrote: > I think any Linux site would boast about having this topic either as > a HOW-TO or a discussion. tldp.org is their documentation project , > where you can get all HOW-TOs or I will just grab the documentation > from Linux box marked underneath . > [snip copy of sysrq docs] A lot of those tasks can be done within the `kernel debugger' of FreeBSD. Not all of them, and some not as easily, but similar functionality is present. Look at the ddb(4) manpage and at the commends for the options DDB and DDB_TRACE of the FreeBSD kernel. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 15 19:49:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAD537B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:49:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (ncsmtp03.ogw.rr.com [24.93.67.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AFD43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:49:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bunderwood@nc.rr.com) Received: from mail4.nc.rr.com (fe4 [24.93.67.51]) by ncsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gBG3nDib006959; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from bonez ([66.57.18.80]) by mail4.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:50:27 -0500 From: "bunderwood" To: , Subject: RE: How are you doing ? (Amusing so far) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:49:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c2a4b6$333464b0$0c00000a@bonez> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3DFCBE18.C7D550FE@ovis.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lmao -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Steve Kudlak Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 12:39 PM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How are you doing ? (Amusing so far) kara_smith131px515@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi my name is Kara I saw your profile on the internet I was wondering if you were still single. If so we should chat or even hook up. If intrested send me a email to kara_233_smith_6@hotmail.com and I will send you some pics and then we can set up dinner or even a movie. Hope to here from you soon always Kara > 1600BJFp0-409Ml13 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Hmmm the freebsd mailing lists probably have like hundreds of subscribers. Does entity want to have dinner with all of us. Movie tastes must vary widely too. Hmmm there is a Linux movie, I wonder if there is a FreeBSD movie? Hmmm but bots make boring dinner companions. Intelligent post movie conversation is currently beyond their ken. Hmmm Ray Kurzweil where are you when we need you!;) Hmm if there is a "Smarter Child" is there a "Seductive Whatever"? The alphanumeric garbledegook really gives it away. Also the stuff in the headers. Does anyone read the headers anymore or is that a lost art? I would hope on BSD Newsgroups people actually were interested in such arcana of networking. Have Fun, Sends Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 16 9:59:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1952A37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB0B43EC5 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:59:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H7800HIZ4N4TP@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:54:17 -0800 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-163.acuson.com [157.226.46.163]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R9T73H; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:56:17 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:59:38 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: How are you doing ? (Amusing so far) In-reply-to: <3DFCBE18.C7D550FE@ovis.net> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200212160959.38460.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <025c45a85a6e$6671a5a6$0ba21eb0@kkubyi> <3DFCBE18.C7D550FE@ovis.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 15 December 2002 09:38 am, Steve Kudlak wrote: > Hmmm the freebsd mailing lists probably have like > hundreds of subscribers. Does entity want to have dinner > with all of us. Movie tastes must vary widely too. > Hmmm there is a Linux movie, I wonder if there is > a FreeBSD movie? Since it was Kara that did the invite, then it must be that Kara is paying! Yay! David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 17 13:36:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5F237B406 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from web10806.mail.yahoo.com (web10806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4892343EDC for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:36:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonstew1983@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021217213656.16922.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.6.168.58] by web10806.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:36:56 PST Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:36:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Stewart Subject: Re: Recording sound files. To: Lute Mullenix Cc: newbies@freeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20021209101749.1acdfbaf.lute@cableone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I dont actually use BSD much right now (basically not at all :( i lack hard drive space and I still want to play my games) but anyway more on topic i would reccomend ogg vorbis rather than MP3 for two reasons 1 Quality is generally considered better with ogg for a given bitrate and 2 It is open source while the "official" MP3 codec requires royalties Yes Bladeenc does do MP3 but I think that being reverse engineered may also penalize quality. http://vorbis.com/ --- Lute Mullenix wrote: > Hi, > > I'm in the process of copying some songs from tape to my computer. > These > are old demo tapes made by local bands and pretty much one of a kind > items. I'm doing this in hopes of burning them on to CDs because of > the > fragile nature of cassettes. > > Anyway I have been using Xwave to record from the tape, then bladeenc > to > encode to mp3 format. This seems to be working pretty well, but am > wondering if anyone has used something different to do this sort of > thing. If so, what and how it worked for them. > > This kind of stuff is brand new to me and I'm flying by the seat of > my > pants so to speak on this one. > > Lute > ********************** > Dual Boot: * > FreeBSD 4.7 RELEASE * > Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 * > ********************** > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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_________________________________________________________________ °н.. °Ё.. µµ.. »з.. ¶ы.. ёё.. µй.. ±в.. MSN ·Їєк http://www.msn.co.kr/love/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 19 7:22:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E4A37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.zoper.com (mail.zoper.com [198.78.65.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EC443EDC for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:22:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@fantoma.net) Received: (qmail 16415 invoked by uid 7794); 19 Dec 2002 15:19:33 -0000 Received: from mark@fantoma.net by mail.zoper.com by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (clamscan: 0.53. spamassassin: 2.43. Clear:SA:0(-0.5/5.0):. Processed in 0.593204 secs); 19 Dec 2002 15:19:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fantoma.net) (mark@fantoma.net@150.101.210.8) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Dec 2002 15:19:33 -0000 Message-ID: <3E01DC28.905@fantoma.net> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:48:08 +1100 From: Mark Gladman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021216 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Err.. to be honest, I'm not sure what to put here. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 'Lo to whomever reads this! I've got a little question.. I've read through the FreeBSD handbook, and also purchased and read the book "FreeBSD Unleashed", and after finishing both documents (well.. all the relevent bits of the documents, since at this stage I'm just setting up a network gateway/firewall and a workstation). I found that I just flew through the documents in just a few days, and am thinking "Have I missed something major here?" And am pretty much wondering.. well.. have I missed anything? :) It seems like I can do pretty much anything (edit files in /etc/, install ports, recompile the kernel, configure the GUI and installed programmes, setup networking and smbfs (although I've still got to get around to setting up Samba itself)) So.. err.. yeah.. any help or comments would be greatly appreciated :) Cheers, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 19 8:54:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F4437B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C6643EC5 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB7B55; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:50:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 75DF52FDB3F; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:54:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:54:36 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Mark Gladman Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Err.. to be honest, I'm not sure what to put here. Message-ID: <20021219165436.GQ45336@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Gladman , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org References: <3E01DC28.905@fantoma.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E01DC28.905@fantoma.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # mark@fantoma.net / 2002-12-20 01:48:08 +1100: > 'Lo to whomever reads this! > > I've got a little question.. I've read through the FreeBSD handbook, and > also purchased and read the book "FreeBSD Unleashed", and after > finishing both documents (well.. all the relevent bits of the documents, > since at this stage I'm just setting up a network gateway/firewall and a > workstation). I found that I just flew through the documents in just a > few days, and am thinking "Have I missed something major here?" > And am pretty much wondering.. well.. have I missed anything? :) > It seems like I can do pretty much anything (edit files in /etc/, > install ports, recompile the kernel, configure the GUI and installed > programmes, setup networking and smbfs (although I've still got to get > around to setting up Samba itself)) > > So.. err.. yeah.. any help or comments would be greatly appreciated :) heh, looks too easy to be true, or what? :) hmm, I haven't read a single dead tree book about *BSD, and always have read parts of the documentation I needed as the need arose, so I don't know if you should be scared or not. (they most probably *don't* want you scared away :) what I *do* know is that I spent most of the time at the beginning with perceivably tiny things: get backspace and delete keys behave the same in all apps I use, reclaim that motherfscking crazy vim, configure my shell to save two keystrokes in a command I enter about 2000x a day, etc. admittedly, this part was the most fun, and the most frustrating time of my FreeBSD usage (it is my first unix). so... I think you'll find out it's not as easy as it looks from reading the books, but smaller the issue the bigger PITA (and perhaps quite often the less documented) it is... -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 19 10:51:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A97E37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A23743ED8 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:51:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.techno.pagans (12-224-208-117.client.attbi.com [12.224.208.117]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D118A1005F; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.techno.pagans (Postfix) with ESMTP id E770EAA98; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:50:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3E0214EC.1020403@pantherdragon.org> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:50:20 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Gladman Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Err.. to be honest, I'm not sure what to put here. References: <3E01DC28.905@fantoma.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Gladman wrote: > 'Lo to whomever reads this! > > I've got a little question.. I've read through the FreeBSD handbook, and > also purchased and read the book "FreeBSD Unleashed", and after > finishing both documents (well.. all the relevent bits of the documents, > since at this stage I'm just setting up a network gateway/firewall and a > workstation). I found that I just flew through the documents in just a > few days, and am thinking "Have I missed something major here?" > And am pretty much wondering.. well.. have I missed anything? :) > It seems like I can do pretty much anything (edit files in /etc/, > install ports, recompile the kernel, configure the GUI and installed > programmes, setup networking and smbfs (although I've still got to get > around to setting up Samba itself)) > > So.. err.. yeah.. any help or comments would be greatly appreciated :) How much work have you done on your kernel config? There's a number of things to tune. How about putting FreeBSD on creaky old hardware? Got vinum? Got netgraph? You could cvsup and rebuild the world, too. That's always tons o' fun. RELENG_4_7 would be a good start. Don't forget to pull down -doc as well. There's all kinds of stuff to do there like tuning your make.conf to build all the stuff you want and cut out stuff you don't need, and adjusting the compiler flags to optimize for your hardware. You can install portupgrade (do this BEFORE cvsup'ing ports-all!!!!), cvsup your ports tree, then upgrade anything portupgrade tells you is out of date. That should given you at least a day or two's worth of stuff to do, and a week of smaller tasks. You can also figure out how to automate the process, even do optimized makes for multiple machines. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 19 10:51:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C53637B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD90543EB2 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:51:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H7D00M6ZR21KG@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:46:22 -0800 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-163.acuson.com [157.226.46.163]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R9VSD9; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:48:20 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:51:44 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: Err.. to be honest, I'm not sure what to put here. In-reply-to: <3E01DC28.905@fantoma.net> To: Mark Gladman , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <200212191051.44198.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <3E01DC28.905@fantoma.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday 19 December 2002 06:48 am, Mark Gladman wrote: > And am pretty much wondering.. well.. have I missed anything? :) > It seems like I can do pretty much anything. Welcome to the wonderful world of Unix! Yes, you can do pretty much anything. What makes it work is the Unix philosophy that FreeBSD in its wisdom has decided to keep. Some stuff is going to be hard, some extremely hard. But you can do just about everything with it. First, the user is King, not the vendor. Stuff is not hidden away from you. This means that you are expected to read the fine manual and other documentation. It's also what makes it daunting for the new user. Second, FreeBSD/Unix is composed of many small parts that can fit together however you want them. It's absurd to think that a vendor can foresee all possible uses of their software, so the Unix philosophy is to not pretend that it's possible. Instead, Unix has software that flexible enough to cover even the unforeseen uses. 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It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Dec 21 11:28:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1619437B401 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from avalon.netcom.net.uk (avalon.netcom.net.uk [194.42.225.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC9643EDA for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:28:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@shodgson.org.uk) Received: from dialup-09-39.netcomuk.co.uk ([194.42.230.103] helo=smtp.netcomuk.co.uk) by avalon.netcom.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.20 #3) id 18PpIm-0002IU-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:28:48 +0000 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Voodoo Graphics Cards From: "Steve Hodgson" Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:25:47 GMT Message-Id: <497409983-BeMail@> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been trying to fing out if a 3dfx voodoo 3500 AGP is compatible with FreeBSD 4.7. I have managed to everything up to a successsful GUI -free login. I checked out the various web resources and usenet with no success. My FreeBSD book (FreeBSd Unleashed) doen't list the card in the supported hardware. I have used the cadr succesfully with Linux, BeOS and Windows (not XP) so assumed it would be OK under FreeBSD too. Any help and pointers would be much appreciated at this stage! Steve Hodgson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Dec 21 12:15:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E878237B43B; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from yahoo.ca (h50.255.39.162.ip.alltel.net [162.39.255.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96DE743EE8; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:14:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from main_base@yahoo.ca) From: "main_base" Subject: Комплексные решения в области безопасности CFPRDDJOTQ Reply-To: main_base@yahoo.ca X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Organization: main_base Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:13:50 +0300 Message-Id: <20021221201434.96DE743EE8@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Тема письма: Комплексные решения в области безопасности Уважаемые господа! 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CFPRDDJOTQHGQVQLPOVZLJBTHPQFQKMOCMJCNT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Dec 21 14:56:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD94937B401 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5991F43EDC for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:56:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx ([62.31.198.203]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:56:51 +0000 From: John Murphy To: "Steve Hodgson" Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voodoo Graphics Cards Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:56:22 +0000 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: <8vp90vg74pn1fv4td5ijbve7l9tjik2jvq@4ax.com> References: <497409983-BeMail@> In-Reply-To: <497409983-BeMail@> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Steve Hodgson" wrote: >I have been trying to fing out if a 3dfx voodoo 3500 AGP is compatible=20 >with FreeBSD 4.7. I have managed to everything up to a successsful GUI >-free login. I checked out the various web resources and usenet with=20 >no success. My FreeBSD book (FreeBSd Unleashed) doen't list the card=20 >in the supported hardware. I've had a voodoo3 running quite well with Direct Rendering = Infrastructure (DRI) and Glide 3. The following URL leads to good information: http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/install.html (Watch out for the typo though 'ports/graphics/linux-dri' should be - ports/graphics/linux_dri) If you just want a GUI for now you'll get good results using the tdfx = driver. >I have used the cadr succesfully with Linux, BeOS and Windows (not XP)=20 >so assumed it would be OK under FreeBSD too. You assumed correctly :) The tdfx section from the Linux /etc/X11/XF86Config file should work. --=20 John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Dec 21 15:50:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3893337B405 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f93.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03D943EDA for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:46:54 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:46:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] From: "clayton rollins" To: steve@shodgson.org.uk Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voodoo Graphics Cards Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:46:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2002 23:46:54.0775 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E01EC70:01C2A94B] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey Steve, Glad you decided to give BSD a try; you won't be disappointed. According to this list: http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/ , your card should be supported with hardware acceleration. The card list under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/cards shows a listing and a driver, tdfx. I'm assuming that you're wondering because you want to install X. If this is the case, I've always found it pretty easy to just do a test setup using the tools in /stand/sysinstall. Go to the post-install configure, on the main menu and select XFree86, to start the setup. During the setup process, you'll be given a comprehensive listing from the card database. If your card's listed, it's supported; if not, not. The worst-case scenario is you'll end up with a junk XF86Config file in /etc/X11 or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. (Unless you clock your monitor wrong, or go out of your way to clock your card wrong...) As a side note, I have generally had no problems using "unsupported" cards. More often the constraint has been from monitor frequency rates. (My last one would only work in 320x200 mode with the proper vrefresh. However, I knew windows had underclocked the monitor previously, so I didn't think it was too dangerous to go 1 kHz out of spec. I guess I'll see, huh?) Anyways, Cheers, good luck, and all of that, Clayton PS. the newbies list isn't intended for questions. I don't much care, but in the future you might be better off sending any questions to the freebsd-questions list. (You'll definitely get more replies on that list, and someone might get mad at you for posting questions here.) >From: "Steve Hodgson" >To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Voodoo Graphics Cards >Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:25:47 GMT > >I have been trying to fing out if a 3dfx voodoo 3500 AGP is compatible >with FreeBSD 4.7. I have managed to everything up to a successsful GUI >-free login. I checked out the various web resources and usenet with >no success. My FreeBSD book (FreeBSd Unleashed) doen't list the card >in the supported hardware. > >I have used the cadr succesfully with Linux, BeOS and Windows (not XP) >so assumed it would be OK under FreeBSD too. > >Any help and pointers would be much appreciated at this stage! > >Steve Hodgson _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 limited-time offer: Join now and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_newmsn8ishere_3mf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message