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From: "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/syscons/fonts cp866u-8x14.fnt cp866u-8x16 .fnt         cp866u-8x8.fnt koi8-u-8x14.fnt koi8-u-8x16.fnt koi8-u-8x8.fnt INDEX.fonts Makefile src/share/syscons/keymaps         ua.koi8-u.sh ift.al t.kbd INDEX.keymaps Makefile ...
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On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 18:56:39 -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote:
> Oh... I think, you understood, what I meant, but I'll try again. Replace
> "ASCII" above  by "the  charset commonly  used by  pseudo-graphics using
> programs, whose authors are unaware  of any other languages or character
> sets but English and latin".

If you mean cp866, _all_ pseudographics from there preserved in koi8-r

> seems  to suggest,  that two  pseudo-graphical symbols  (not sure  which
> ones) were  sacrificed to  make room  for e: and  E: (positions  163 and
> 179).

No, both YO and yo exists in cp866 too.

> Well, in the bad old days of Soviet Union there was no KOI8-R or KOI8-U.
> There was  KOI8: "Kod  Obmena Informaciej,  8-bitovyj". Having  at least
> something, that  is called KOI8 is  good, IMO. For completeness  sake, I

So, we can add yet another charset according to old koi8 standard specs
and call it correctly koi8.

> think, that "something" should be, what is now called koi8-u.

No way.

> Well,  the  programs themselves  will  be  portable,  since all  of  the
> assumptions and modifications will be  inside libtermcap -- the app will
> continue to (portably) call vline, hline,  etc, but the library will try
> to  harder  to figure  out  the  correct characters...  The  portability
> argument does not apply, I think.

Try to sell this idea to ncurses maintainer first.

-- 
Andrey A. Chernov
http://ache.pp.ru/

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