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Date:      Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:39:47 -0500
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        NAKATA Maho <chat95@mac.com>
Cc:        LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de, gerald@pfeifer.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, ade@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: lang/gcc41 - libjava
Message-ID:  <20060317173947.GA27398@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20060317.221127.41627417.chat95@mac.com>
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On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 10:11:27PM +0900, NAKATA Maho wrote:
> In Message-ID: <9E058426-CEDE-4090-B6DD-920722C3F1D1@FreeBSD.org>=20
> Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>=20
> > I'm looking this one over and thinking about it.  Right now, weighing =
=20
> > the benefits (fixing 1, maybe 2 ports) against the obvious =20
> > infrastructure issues that having two gmake ports in the tree, I'm =20
> > currently of the opinion that it's not really a good solution.
>=20
> > A considerably more preferable approach would be to put pressure on =20
> > the gmake folks to get a new release pushed out, with these and other =
=20
> > fixes, which can then be set up for an -exp run, and if successful, =20
> > devel/gmake simply gets punted to a new version where everyone is happy.
>=20
> gmake-devel port is now RC stage: make-3.81rc1.tar.bz2, and IMHO
> we need some time to do extensive tests by changing (just illustrate
> how we test)
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> .if defined(USE_GMAKE)
> BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D         gmake:${PORTSDIR}/devel/gmake
> CONFIGURE_ENV+=3D MAKE=3D${GMAKE}
> .endif
> ->
> .if defined(USE_GMAKE)
> BUILD_DEPENDS+=3D         gmake-devel:${PORTSDIR}/devel/gmake-devel
> CONFIGURE_ENV+=3D MAKE=3Dgmake-devel
> .endif
>=20
> so my opinion is:
> committing gmake-devel saves at least gcc-4.1 with java, and=20
> OpenOffice.org port. In terms of release enginnering, we can
> test easily, even by casual committer like me, not by Kris.
> if everthing is okay we can put the new version.
> BTW: time stamp at gnu.org of make-3.80.tar.bz2
> 2002/10/04  	00:00:00
> three years have passed since it it released, so I'm quite
> sure there are a lot of brekage with make-3.81. IMHO
> we need both make for a while.

Send me a patch that makes the new gmake used by default and I'll run
it through a package build to see how it goes.

Kris

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