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[180.150.68.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w4sm1717334pjt.23.2020.01.16.01.01.28 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Jan 2020 01:01:30 -0800 (PST) Sender: Kubilay Kocak Reply-To: koobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Ben Woods References: <202001150747.00F7lqiG071097@repo.freebsd.org> <0100016fad773f6c-22812db6-4185-4922-a424-94c4ae083344-000000@email.amazonses.com> From: Kubilay Kocak Message-ID: <81104b94-8c89-7eec-720f-0aab2201eb3f@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:01:26 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:72.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/72.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0100016fad773f6c-22812db6-4185-4922-a424-94c4ae083344-000000@email.amazonses.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47yyqQ0dYFz3CF3 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=AyqwjNKY; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of koobsfreebsd@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1034 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=koobsfreebsd@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[koobs@FreeBSD.org]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[koobs@FreeBSD.org,koobsfreebsd@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.79)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.09), asn: 15169(-1.83), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[koobs@FreeBSD.org,koobsfreebsd@gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.62)[-0.623,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.878,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:01:38 -0000 On 16/01/2020 7:27 pm, Colin Percival wrote: > On 2020-01-15 21:07, Philip Paeps wrote: >> On 2020-01-16 04:57:28 (+1000), Oliver Pinter wrote: >>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, Ben Woods wrote: >>>>   bsdinstall: Change "default" (first) Partitioning method to ZFS >> >>> Plus I miss from here the relontes tag. >> >> I'm not sure if this merits a release notes entry but ... sure. >> >> There is not actually a functional change here.  It's just a defaults change. > > I'd say that a change in defaults is far more deserving of being mentioned > in the release notes than, say, adding a new feature. Nobody will trip over > new features by mistake, but there's probably someone out there who is used > to holding down the Enter key in the installer and expects to get UFS. > +1 on changing the default. This doesn't preclude UFS systems or reduce choice (we value choice). +0 on tweaking it or setting exceptions if and where necessary, as long as it doesn't result in more than minimal fragmentation between versions/archs/install types: this is also a POLA issue. I don't oin its own consider "4gb systems" as necessary. +1 RELNOTES, we value POLA. More things in RELNOTES not less