From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 21 14:41: 9 2000 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 21 14:41:07 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from babylon.merseine.nu (c418236-a.clmba1.mo.home.com [24.12.203.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C87637B400; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:41:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ishmael@localhost) by babylon.merseine.nu (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBLMgIT27714; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:42:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ishmael) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:42:18 -0600 From: Jeremy Norris To: ade@FreeBSD.org Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/23716: Patch to make graphics/gdk-pixbuf optionally dependant upon GNOME Message-ID: <20001221164218.A10712@babylon.merseine.nu> References: <200012212139.eBLLd1k27397@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200012212139.eBLLd1k27397@freefall.freebsd.org>; from ade@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:39:01PM -0800 Sender: ishmael@babylon.merseine.nu Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I object to this. While gdk-pixbuf is developed by the GNOME folks, and used frequenlty in GNOMEish apps, the library itself does not require a GNOME library, only GTK+. There are several apps in the port tree now that can utilize gdk-pixbuf without GNOME, so its not as if nothing would take advantage of a GNOMEless version (xchat and gnapster both come to the top of my mind). I would also point out that NetBSD saw fit enough to split into GNOME vs. non-GNOME in their pkgsrc. As I understand the situation, gdk-pixbuf is a replacement for Imlib, a library that GNOME is built upon, and will also be an integrated part of GTK+ 1.4/2.0 (thus forcing GNOME to be installed to utilize it is like forcing GNOME to be installed to utilize Imlib). Also, I'm unsure what the headaches you forsee are. Were not the USE_GNOME, HAVE_GNOME, WITH_GNOME make directives committed to eliminate headaches (and deal with situations like this)? A person would have a hard time messing up dependancies and causing themselves problems, since one must now currently define WITHOUT_GNOME to prevent any optionally dependant port from building GNOME. My final point is, that not all people out there like and/or utilize the GNOME crap, and I think our ports collection should be flexible enough to please everybody, not just the GNOME majority. Jeremy On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:39:01PM -0800, ade@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: Patch to make graphics/gdk-pixbuf optionally dependant upon GNOME > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: ade > State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 21 13:34:51 PST 2000 > State-Changed-Why: > As I already explained to you in private email, gdk-pixbuf is, right > now, part of GNOME. It will disappear as an entity in its own right > real soon now, being combined either into GTK 1.4/2.0 or a future > release of (possibly) gnomelibs. > > Whilst it is possible to make this port not dependent on other > GNOME libraries, doing so is likely to cause plenty of headaches > that don't even come close to compensating for the non-GNOME > "capability". > > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports->ade > Responsible-Changed-By: ade > Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Dec 21 13:34:51 PST 2000 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23716 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message