From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 0: 8:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from stennis.ca.sandia.gov (stennis.ca.sandia.gov [146.246.243.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC40151D1 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@stennis.ca.sandia.gov) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by stennis.ca.sandia.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA14489; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906200707.AAA14489@stennis.ca.sandia.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 06/10/1999 To: Greg Lehey Cc: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com, Kevin Lo , Brett Taylor , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD books (was: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:13:27 +0930." <19990620161327.G6820@freebie.lemis.com> From: bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Url: http://www.ca.sandia.gov/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1769729117P"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:07:07 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1769729117P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Greg Lehey wrote: > > If this is correct, this makes little sense. We, the FreeBSD > > community, need to bring out our own version of "FreeBSD in a > > nutshell". Of course, we can't use that title. > > Yes, that's one of the things I've been thinking of doing. How about > "The essence of FreeBSD"? Or "The essential FreeBSD"? Personally, I like "The Essential FreeBSD". After reading the first suggestion, the next words that popped into my head were "cologne" and "L'Eau de FreeBSD", but that's heading off in a way weird direction. That means it's time for me to stop reading mail and go to bed. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1769729117P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBN2yTGqjOOi0j7CY9AQF9IwP+JK81SZWKbVsRCS/d20jS/b+MwbcprHuj lY+uhYDthfHgv22pUsOHty53WD7c6boQIADPPuMjWD6OZi2acw+FlyEqQ68MCPGO u190lVippqK6lC1RvByTftq0uWiQHCHxrmd0s0PshDR1oAQgsl4FoYtThFJbHDpT 53SswbDJv5I= =zlZT -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --==_Exmh_-1769729117P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 0:17:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E9D14BDC for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doranj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: (from doranj@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) id BAA25652 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:17:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonathon Doran Message-Id: <199906200717.BAA25652@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: FreeBSD books (was: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:17:26 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: <19990620161327.G6820@freebie.lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Jun 20, 99 04:13:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, that's one of the things I've been thinking of doing. How about > "The essence of FreeBSD"? Or "The essential FreeBSD"? > How about "The Zen of FreeBSD", fits with the Berkeley origins. Jon Doran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 0:18:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from metis.host4u.net (metis.host4u.net [209.150.128.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60E314DD0 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan.langille@dvl-software.com) Received: from wocker (210-55-152-36.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.152.36]) by metis.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA18281; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:18:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199906200718.CAA18281@metis.host4u.net> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: Christopher Michaels , Doug White Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:18:33 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 3.1 chicken-and-egg kernel situation Reply-To: dan.langille@dvl-software.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-reply-to: <19990620054042.QEJN404633.mta1-rme@wocker> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20 Jun 99, at 17:37, Dan Langille wrote: > On 19 Jun 99, at 21:16, Doug White wrote: > > > On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > And here's the diff which allows the above to be seen during the 3.* > > > install: > > > > > > RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c,v > > > retrieving revision 1.41 > > > diff -C2 -r1.41 pcibus.c > > > *** pcibus.c 1997/12/20 09:04:25 1.41 > > > --- pcibus.c 1999/06/07 11:58:58 > > > > If this has been committed to the 3.X tree, then the snap server at > > ftp://releng3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ will be helpful to you. > > That machine builds a release every day. Otherwise, you'll have to > > 'make release' or source upgrade yourself. > > Thanks. I just checked the latest copy: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c?rev=1.42 > > It has not been committed but then I wouldn't expect to be. I'm still in > my testing stages to make sure it works. I don't think I'll get around to > that now until next weekend. I lied. I've just finished the install. On 16 Jun 99, at 10:33, Christopher Michaels wrote: > What about the "emergency holographic shell" that's created on vty4 (i > think it's vty4). When the install is complete couldn't you copy the > kernel from there? That worked a treat. Thanks. I'll let the developer know the details. cheers to all -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 0:28: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.59.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A5514A12 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:28:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetsuya1@prodigy.net) Received: from prodigy.net (RENOB106-28.splitrock.net [209.156.128.212]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA157788; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 03:28:01 -0400 Message-ID: <376C9813.BF6B778D@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:28:19 -0700 From: Root X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, de, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: soundcard installation problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I need help with SB16ValuePnP(CT2980) configuration on 3.2R. symptom: snd0 does not work; there's no sound. x11amp refuses to play. setup I did: In the kernel, relevant statements were added as you can see below. In /kernel.config, relevant pnp info was entered as in a freebsd.org faq. Even though the last part of the dmesg looks Ok, but pnp configurator seemed to fail the COM2 assignment for SB16 card. My modem is also pnp. It was also configured with the same procedure as SB16 was done. It has worked very fine. When I put pnp thing in /boot/kernel.conf, SB16 was not displyed at bootup at all. Please help. Tetsuya. ------------------------------------------------ dmesg: ~~ avail memory = 127823872 (124828K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02a8000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02a809c. ~~ Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL002b [0x2b008c0e] Serial 0x0013d725 Comp ID: PNP0600 [0x0006 d041] sio1: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: probe failed sio1 (siopnp sn 0x0013d725) failed to attach ~~ sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa snd0: sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa snd0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa snd0: opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: ------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 1: 4:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 001101.zer0.org (001101.zer0.org [206.24.105.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2A214DBB; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@001101.zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by 001101.zer0.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA67806; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:03:02 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: Mark Turpin Cc: Alexander Langer , Ludwig Pummer , Pat Lynch , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? Message-ID: <19990620010302.B61640@001101.zer0.org> References: <19990619100442.A654@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Mark Turpin on Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 03:04:54PM +0000 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 03:04:54PM +0000, Mark Turpin wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Alexander Langer wrote: > > > Yes, but they work with such a slot1 adapter which helps the Celeron > > by doing the required stuff (afaik) > > The celerons have the necessary pins to support multi-processing, > but intel lists them as reserved in the data sheets. I do know that MSI > (MicroStar) has released a PPGA->Slot1 converter with a jumper that > connects the pins. All you have to do is use two PPGA celerons and two of > these converters and it works. There is some more information > available(part numbers and a picture) at http://www.cpu-central.com/ An acquaintance of mine who is a former member of the Celeron development team said that the Celerons can do SMP, but there is a bug that couldn't be fixed (in the time they had, without breaking other test cycles), so they shouldn't be trusted for that. I have no further details on the bug at this time. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Was Jimi's modem a Purple Hayes? mailto:gsutter@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 1:23:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A669714DD0 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marisombra@mindspring.com) Received: from ntwks (user-2iveea3.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.57.67]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA05708 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:23:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "SUR" To: "FreeBSD-questions" Subject: RE: FreeBSD books (was: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:23:32 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01bebaf6$2ee6ee80$4339f7a5@ntwks> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG actually, i really like "Tao of FreeBSD". really recognizable books such as Tao of Physics, Tao of Pooh, Tao of Symbols....granted Zen and Motorcycle Repair is fairly popular....i just like Tao better ;) much easier to get "essence" of FreeBSD from Tao than Zen IMO. after all, the book would be a condensed guide. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Jonathon Doran Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 3:17 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD books (was: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)) > Yes, that's one of the things I've been thinking of doing. How about > "The essence of FreeBSD"? Or "The essential FreeBSD"? > How about "The Zen of FreeBSD", fits with the Berkeley origins. Jon Doran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 1:37:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EBB14D83 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 01:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA04006; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:07:51 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id SAA42199; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:07:54 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:07:53 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: SUR Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD books (was: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)) Message-ID: <19990620180753.H6820@freebie.lemis.com> References: <000b01bebaf6$2ee6ee80$4339f7a5@ntwks> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000b01bebaf6$2ee6ee80$4339f7a5@ntwks>; from SUR on Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 04:23:32AM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 20 June 1999 at 4:23:32 -0400, SUR wrote: > On Sunday, June 20, 1999 3:17 AM, owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG On Behalf Of Jonathon Doran wrote: >> >>> Yes, that's one of the things I've been thinking of doing. How about >>> "The essence of FreeBSD"? Or "The essential FreeBSD"? >>> >> How about "The Zen of FreeBSD", fits with the Berkeley origins. > > actually, i really like "Tao of FreeBSD". really recognizable books > such as Tao of Physics, Tao of Pooh, Tao of Symbols....granted Zen and > Motorcycle Repair is fairly popular....i just like Tao better ;) much > easier to get "essence" of FreeBSD from Tao than Zen IMO. after all, > the book would be a condensed guide. Remember that the main purpose of a title is to interest people in the book. I don't think either of these would convey the right impression. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 2:29:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A85C14D7F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zort@penrithcity.nsw.gov.au) Received: from femail.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au (femail.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au [203.21.134.7]) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA17830 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:29:20 +1000 Received: from supadad.bong.org.au (unverified [203.41.13.35]) by femail.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:31:52 +1000 Message-ID: <001901bebb00$2a92a400$230d29cb@supadad.bong.org.au> From: "Dean Hamstead" To: Subject: optimisations Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:34:50 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ive noticed extremely bad performance using freebsd as a samba server. Specifically the in ability to stream mp3s. Linux & NT servers stream the fine, with no buffering on the client end. Im running 3.0-RELEASE, and the kernel is compiled with bpf support so that dhcpd can run. Samba is 2.0.3. The server is a p90, 32mb ram, 1 x 600 mb quantum fireball and 1 x 8 gb seagate medalist, each on there own ide bus as master. Its using a 3c509 NIC. I have disabled all un used daemons. My thoughts would be compile the kernel for less users (i left is at 32 as in the GENERIC config) or use a different network card. Is support for the 3c509 (not the 3c509b) really bad? all my Linux machines use them and they are good. Is there any other optimisations i could implement? Regards Dean Hamstead -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail : zort@penrithcity.nsw.gov.au ICQ # : 12512186 www : http://www.rpi.net.au/~hamstead ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 2:31:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sand4.global.net.uk (sand4.global.net.uk [194.126.80.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5FB14D7F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pa1s06a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.214.162] helo=marder-1.) by sand4.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10vdwy-0001FZ-00; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:31:40 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id KAA19908; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:29:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:29:31 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Doug White Cc: Bill Woods , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mouse questions... Message-ID: <19990620102931.A19259@marder-1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 10:46:59PM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 10:46:59PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Bill Woods wrote: > > > I currently have my mouse working in console #1, but I would like to use > > the mouse in all my consoles (at leats the first 4) and be able to cut and > > paste between the consoles. Is it possible, if so, how? > > I don't know if you can cut & paste between consoles, but you can turn on > the mouse in each vty by running > > vidcontrol -m on > > in each vty. > > If you need extended cut & paste, you're about ready for X. :) > The poster doesn't say what version of FreeBSD they're using, but if it's 3.x then add the following to /etc/rc.conf: allscreens_flags="-m on" For 2.2.x then use: echo '\nactivating console mouse:' for i in /dev/ttyv[0-2]; do echo " $i" vidcontrol -m on < $i > $i done HTH > Doug White > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 2:52:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (unknown [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6644914D1A for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.36]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990620095533.RNBE404633.mta1-rme@wocker> for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:55:33 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:52:30 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 3.1 chicken-and-egg kernel situation Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz In-reply-to: <199906200718.CAA18281@metis.host4u.net> References: <19990620054042.QEJN404633.mta1-rme@wocker> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990620095533.RNBE404633.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20 Jun 99, at 19:18, Dan Langille wrote: > On 20 Jun 99, at 17:37, Dan Langille wrote: > > > On 19 Jun 99, at 21:16, Doug White wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > > > And here's the diff which allows the above to be seen during the 3.* > > > > install: > > > > > > > > RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c,v > > > > retrieving revision 1.41 > > > > diff -C2 -r1.41 pcibus.c > > > > *** pcibus.c 1997/12/20 09:04:25 1.41 > > > > --- pcibus.c 1999/06/07 11:58:58 > > > > > > If this has been committed to the 3.X tree, then the snap server at > > > ftp://releng3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ will be helpful to > > > you. That machine builds a release every day. Otherwise, you'll have > > > to 'make release' or source upgrade yourself. > > > > Thanks. I just checked the latest copy: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c?rev=1.42 > > > > It has not been committed but then I wouldn't expect to be. I'm still > > in my testing stages to make sure it works. I don't think I'll get > > around to that now until next weekend. > > I lied. I've just finished the install. > > On 16 Jun 99, at 10:33, Christopher Michaels wrote: > > > What about the "emergency holographic shell" that's created on vty4 (i > > think it's vty4). When the install is complete couldn't you copy the > > kernel from there? > > That worked a treat. Thanks. I'll let the developer know the details. BTW: as a prolog, I have some questions about how I did this kernel replacement. In short I did this: # cd / # chflags noschg kernel # cp kernel kernel.orginal.3.2-RELEASE # mount /dev/fd0 /mnt # cp kernel.gz /mnt # umount /mnt # chflags schg kernel Then I went back to the install script and did an exit. I saw a warning message which was something like "vinvalbuf" and a panic. After the reboot, I saw messages about / not being properly shut down. Another reboot and everything was fine. Did I install this kernel the proper way? What was this "vinvalbuf"? Is the dirty file system related to the panic? How would I avoid that dirty file system? cheers. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 4: 0:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.58.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1755514D40 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetsuya1@prodigy.net) Received: from prodigy.net (RENOB106-28.splitrock.net [209.156.128.212]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA75894; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:00:41 -0400 Message-ID: <376CC9EB.96CCC94A@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:59 -0700 From: Tetsuya Watanabe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, de, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SB16PnP and /boot/loader.conf revisited Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Could you provide some explanations to the following problem? FreeBSD 3.2R and pnp cards. In www.freebsd.org/faq/faq78.html, I see that pnp devices need "pnp x ..." entries in /boot/kernel.conf among other settings. However, /boot/kernel.conf contains the undocumented commands such as di(disable?) and q(quit?), then at the bootup the system ignores these commands and pauses right after it igonored "q" command in /boot/kernel.conf file. At this point, pressing Enter causes the process to resume. I decided to include ppp stuff into that file any way. If I put ppp statements, which was followed by unknown commands in /boot/kernel.conf, the system does not understand these directives at bootup. It is as if the kernel does not care the pnp statements in /boot/kernel.conf as long as there are vendor-id entries in sio.c because the presence of ppp statements in /boot/kernel.conf does not have no meaning in this case. The following system message always appear regardless of the presence of pnp directives in /boot/kernel.conf. sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa snd0: sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa snd0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa snd0: opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: I would like to figure out the correct procedure to set up this sb16 pnp card. Tetsuya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 4: 6:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from posgate.acis.com.au (posgate.acis.com.au [203.14.230.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F0A15230 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au) Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (uucp@localhost) by posgate.acis.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2/Debian/GNU) with UUCP id VAA12201; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:05:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (central.apana.org.au [203.9.107.245]) by bullseye.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08767; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:03:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:56:25 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew MacIntyre To: Bart Trzynadlowski Cc: "J.M. Paden" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x configuration files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Bart Trzynadlowski wrote: > file but now X goes to the point where it displays that gray-ish weaving > background with an X cursor and just quits. The only message is something > about XKEYBOARD keymap compiler and that errors here are not fatal to the > X server. Yet it shuts down anyway. My xinitrc is included below. I > changed nothing except for what is below the "# start some nice programs" > line. Everything else was originally in the xinitrc file. Thanks for the > help! {...} > wmaker & ^ xinitrc needs to wait on something, and that is nearly always the window manager. drop the " &" and it should work. -- Andrew I MacIntyre "These thoughts are mine alone..." E-mail: andrew.macintyre@aba.gov.au (work) | Snail: PO Box 370 andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au (play) | Belconnen ACT 2616 Fido: Andrew MacIntyre, 3:620/243.18 | Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 4:12:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as2-033.rp-plus.de [149.221.236.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E769014C32; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18928; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:13:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00866; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:13:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:13:19 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Mark Turpin Cc: Ludwig Pummer , Pat Lynch , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP and celerons? Message-ID: <19990620131319.C695@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <19990619100442.A654@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Mark Turpin (mturpin@shadow.spel.com): > (MicroStar) has released a PPGA->Slot1 converter with a jumper that > connects the pins. All you have to do is use two PPGA celerons and two of > these converters and it works. There is some more information > available(part numbers and a picture) at http://www.cpu-central.com/ Yes. There are many Adapters that can do this. I´ve seen a homepage (url not bookmarked, sorry) with a test of 20 of those adapters if they work. Almost all work, some if you help them. Additionally today I saw a picture in the recent c´t (German magazine) of a dual-ppga celeron board. Strange. Alex -- ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 4:36:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from public.ndh.com (public.ndh.net [194.97.97.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BE614D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phreak_killer@yahoo.com) Received: from yahoo.com (port1145.duesseldorf.ndh.net [62.40.8.145]) by public.ndh.com (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA09149 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:36:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <376CD28F.7910F89D@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:37:51 +0200 From: "[Charlie (Phreak_killer) > FreeBSD]" Organization: CRACK WITH THE /)EVIL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ensoniqe AudioPCI with FreeBSD3.1 stable Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BAA015D26D8C9235082ECC67" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BAA015D26D8C9235082ECC67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. Not far ago I had upgraded from 3.1 RELEASE to STABLE and saw to new files in the source directory : "es1370.c" and "es1370_reg.h" So i deleted oss and build a new kernel with pcm & pnp support. After booting with detecting my sound card I configured the mixer, made the links from dsp1 to dsp and ran mpg123 to test some mp3z. It told me "can't reset /dev/dsp!" but play all sounds cool! So i tested quake, quake2 and lxdoom. And again: "can't reset /dev/dsp!" but no sound? How to set up the sound for ensoniq AudioPCI correctly? thnaxs.... (Sorry if you can't understand me. Im from germany and speak english hardly!) --------------BAA015D26D8C9235082ECC67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="DEVIL" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="DEVIL" # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.2 1999/02/15 02:50:07 des Exp $ machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" #cpu "I686_CPU" ident FREEBIE maxusers 32 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd0 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM #device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. #controller ncr0 #controller ahb0 #controller ahc0 #controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. #controller dpt0 #controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller adw0 #controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 #controller scbus0 #device da0 #device sa0 #device pass0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 #device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device nlpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device ax0 #device de0 #device fxp0 #device mx0 #device pn0 #device rl0 #device tl0 #device tx0 #device vr0 #device vx0 #device wb0 #device xl0 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 9 #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM options USER_LDT # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. #pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter # USB support #controller uhci0 #controller ohci0 #controller usb0 # # for the moment we have to specify the priorities of the device # drivers explicitly by the ordering in the list below. This will # be changed in the future. # #device ums0 #device ukbd0 #device ulpt0 #device uhub0 #device ucom0 #device umodem0 #device hid0 #device ugen0 # #options USB_DEBUG #options USBVERBOSE controller pnp0 device pcm0 at pci? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x15 --------------BAA015D26D8C9235082ECC67-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 4:49:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wfdutil3gw.ml.com (wfdutil3f01.ml.com [206.3.74.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1983814C8B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com) Received: from ewfdav03.ml.com ([199.201.57.19]) by wfdutil3gw.ml.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MLgwo-4.03) with SMTP id HAA24698 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.23.142.207 by ewfdav03.ml.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:44:46 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: by cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com (8.8.8+Sun/ML55SMX-1.02) id HAA03249; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:49:02 -0400 (EDT) From: mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com (Michael Wang) Message-Id: <199906201149.HAA03249@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BIOS extmem (48128K) != RTC extmem (15296K) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello BSDers: I have a DELL OMNI PLEX 466 with 48MB mem but it seems that FreeBSD: FreeBSD mike.dream-color.com 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: can only recognize 16MB mem. I include the top display and boot message below. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Thank you all. Michael Wang http://www.mindspring.com/~mwang top: last pid: 364; load averages: 0.18, 0.14, 0.06 up 0+01:00:53 07:52:41 36 processes: 2 running, 34 sleeping CPU states: 3.4% user, 0.0% nice, 14.9% system, 16.4% interrupt, 65.3% idle Mem: 4272K Active, 3120K Inact, 3160K Wired, 2152K Cache, 1323K Buf, 480K Free Swap: 42M Total, 4712K Used, 37M Free, 11% Inuse, 132K Out boot: [julie:/opt/home/root/DOWNLOAD]tip hardwire connected Console: serial port BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive B: is disk1 BIOS drive C: is disk2 FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 639/48128kB (jkh@cathair, Tue May 18 03:22:02 GMT 1999) Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /kernel text=0x1c9d1a data=0x1def8+0x21868 syms=[0x4+0x261c0+0x4+0x26284] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K), setting to BIOS value BIOS extmem (48128K) != RTC extmem (15296K) Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jun 20 00:34:40 EDT 1999 root@mike.dream-color.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 Features=0x3 real memory = 16711680 (16320K bytes) avail memory = 13139968 (12832K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0358000. eisa0: Probing for devices on the EISA bus Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 vga0: rev 0x02 int a irq 9 on pci0.4.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.11.0 Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A, console sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 4028MB (8249472 sectors), 8184 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 2062KB/sec, 240KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked wdc1 not found at 0x170 wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:1b:10:72 ex0 not found le0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 zp0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 cs0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 adv0 not found at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x334 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x230 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x234 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x130 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x134 bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0 not found at 0x134 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to wd0s1a swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device Automatic reboot in progress... /dev/rwd0s1a: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/rwd0s1a: clean, 10298 free (626 frags, 1209 blocks, 2.0% fragmentation) /dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 2405329 free (59049 frags, 293285 blocks, 1.5% fragmentatio n) /dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 19860 free (268 frags, 2449 blocks, 0.9% fragmentation) Doing initial network setup: hostname. ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 169.10.65.187 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 169.10.65.255 ether 00:a0:24:1b:10:72 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 add net default: gateway 169.10.65.185 Additional routing options: tcp extensions=NO. routing daemons:. Mounting NFS file systems. additional daemons: syslogd. Doing additional network setup: portmap. Starting final network daemons: mountd nfsd rpc.statd nfsiod. setting ELF ldconfig path: /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/li b setting a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/a out starting standard daemons: inetd cron sendmail. Initial rc.i386 initialization:. rc.i386 configuring syscons: blank_time. Local package initialization: Wnn Nihongo Multi Client Server (4.20) Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/kihon.dic Fid = 1 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/setsuji.dic Fid = 2 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/koyuu.dic Fid = 3 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/chimei.dic Fid = 4 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/jinmei.dic Fid = 5 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/special.dic Fid = 6 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/computer.dic Fid = 7 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/symbol.dic Fid = 8 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/tankan.dic Fid = 9 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/bio.dic Fid = 10 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/full.fzk Fid = 11 Finished Reading Files fopen: No such file or directory httpd: could not open document config file /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf Canna mysql skkserv. Sun Jun 20 06:37:16 EDT 1999 JJJJJJJJ syncing disks... done Rebooting... Console: serial port BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive B: is disk1 BIOS drive C: is disk2 FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 639/48128kB (jkh@cathair, Tue May 18 03:22:02 GMT 1999) Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /kernel text=0x1c9d1a data=0x1def8+0x21868 syms=[0x4+0x261c0+0x4+0x26284] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K), setting to BIOS value BIOS extmem (48128K) != RTC extmem (15296K) Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jun 20 00:34:40 EDT 1999 root@mike.dream-color.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 Features=0x3 real memory = 16711680 (16320K bytes) avail memory = 13139968 (12832K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0358000. eisa0: Probing for devices on the EISA bus Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 vga0: rev 0x02 int a irq 9 on pci0.4.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.11.0 Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A, console sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 4028MB (8249472 sectors), 8184 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 2062KB/sec, 240KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked wdc1 not found at 0x170 wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:1b:10:72 ex0 not found le0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 zp0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 cs0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 adv0 not found at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x334 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x230 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x234 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x130 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x134 bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0 not found at 0x134 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to wd0s1a swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device Automatic reboot in progress... /dev/rwd0s1a: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/rwd0s1a: clean, 10297 free (633 frags, 1208 blocks, 2.0% fragmentation) /dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 2405329 free (59049 frags, 293285 blocks, 1.5% fragmentatio n) /dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 18813 free (285 frags, 2316 blocks, 1.0% fragmentation) Doing initial network setup: hostname. ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 169.10.65.187 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 169.10.65.255 ether 00:a0:24:1b:10:72 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 add net default: gateway 169.10.65.185 Additional routing options: tcp extensions=NO. routing daemons:. Mounting NFS file systems. additional daemons: syslogd. Doing additional network setup: portmap. Starting final network daemons: mountd nfsd rpc.statd nfsiod. setting ELF ldconfig path: /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/li b setting a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/a out starting standard daemons: inetd cron sendmail. Initial rc.i386 initialization:. rc.i386 configuring syscons: blank_time. Local package initialization: Wnn Nihongo Multi Client Server (4.20) Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/kihon.dic Fid = 1 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/setsuji.dic Fid = 2 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/koyuu.dic Fid = 3 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/chimei.dic Fid = 4 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/jinmei.dic Fid = 5 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/special.dic Fid = 6 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/computer.dic Fid = 7 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/symbol.dic Fid = 8 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/tankan.dic Fid = 9 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/bio.dic Fid = 10 Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/full.fzk Fid = 11 Finished Reading Files fopen: No such file or directory httpd: could not open document config file /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf Canna mysql skkserv. Sun Jun 20 06:52:50 EDT 1999 FreeBSD/i386 (mike.dream-color.com) (console) login: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 4:57:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wfdutil3gw.ml.com (wfdutil3f01.ml.com [206.3.74.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFB614D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com) Received: from ewfdav03.ml.com ([199.201.57.19]) by wfdutil3gw.ml.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MLgwo-4.03) with SMTP id HAA24909 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.23.143.207 by ewfdav03.ml.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:53:06 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: by cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com (8.8.8+Sun/ML55SMX-1.02) id HAA03264; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:57:22 -0400 (EDT) From: mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com (Michael Wang) Message-Id: <199906201157.HAA03264@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: serial console: /etc/ttys modification needed? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear BSDers: The FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE boot disk allows me to install the OS via a serial console, that is very nice. However after the installation, the kernel does not probe for serial console anymore. So I have to rebuild the kernel by adding a line in the configuration file: device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x20 irq 4 It boots from serial console, but the login prompt does not appear. After I modify /etc/ttys as follows, and it does. # console none unknown off secure console "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure My question is, why do I need to modify the file? Why it is not needed with "real" console? Thanks. Michael Wang http://www.mindspring.com/~mwang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 5:13:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc1017255-a.srst1.fl.home.com (cc1017255-a.srst1.fl.home.com [24.3.122.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A26114D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 05:13:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hg@n2wx.ampr.org) Received: from penny.n2wx.ampr.org (penny.n2wx.ampr.org [172.16.0.5]) by cc1017255-a.srst1.fl.home.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D74C1E53; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by penny.n2wx.ampr.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EFA4CD3; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:13:30 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14188.56042.778949.835423@penny.south.mpcs.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:13:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Howard Goldstein Reply-To: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dhcp client request for a netblk - ideas? In-Reply-To: References: <14182.57600.845707.33747@penny.south.mpcs.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 19.34.1 Organization: disorganization Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White writes: > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Howard Goldstein wrote: > > > This is what they tell me. The kind lady at the other end didn't > > have/wouldn't tell me the IP block. > > Defeats the purpose of having a block, in my eye. It turns out to be much worse than this. With dhclient at least I should have been able to figure out the netblk. Turns out there is no "netblk," not if you as I do think of netblks as contiguous, maskable address ranges. They're apparently random IPs spread amongst gtei's /20 > > > Would this work? I thought the protocol mapped a host address to a > > MAC. If I did that and pulled the {blah} box back off the lease > > (post-suck) would the ethernet link bomb? Sure, could try this too. > > Depends on who's providing the address. I don't know of any routers that > try to mix DHCP and ARP. Sounds like a recipie for disaster > though. Alas, the provided Fujitsu replacement, an Orckit DSL device, doesn't do IP routing. Ethernet bridging seems all it's capable of. This causes other problems when the provider's DHCP server (an NT box)(sigh) takes a dump and forgets about my lease even though it's been only 3600 seconds instead of the granted 432000, or simply ignores my bootp requests as it has been doing since 11am on Friday. > > We *are* talking about the phone company. Is not the phone company > > arrogant simply because they can be? If I tell them it doesn't > > support DHCP they're going to tell me to buy their cute little $600 > > router that'll do this for me. I wonder how it's doing it > > I'd be curious to know. The Fujitsu solution is pretty space-inefficient > -- two lines per card for what looks like an 8" tall card. The Copper > Mountain DSLAMs we use fit 24 ports in a 16" card. I asked, they said they have no capability for static routing or IPs "at this time." I'm not going to push it right now since they're obviously swamped in getting someone to reboot their NT box to get the dhcp server fixed. Seems it takes GTEI from Friday afternoon until (projected, promised) sometime before 2PM on Tuesday to do this. I'm guessing the discman-like Fujitsu bridge is targetting the home market: Not only doesn't it fit in a rack, it's not even rectangular, therefore it doesn't stack well with all the other garbage in the equipment closet. > > Man I wish bpf was compiled in the GENERIC kernel, I really would have > > liked to have tried dhclient before unplugging the thing to go home. > > I tried to convice them, but they wouldn't have any of it. Apparently it > does have legal consequences (although Windows machines ship with this > feature built-in ... hm... ) It would be very nice to have but seeing how much I've paid for FreeBSD I'm going to be hard pressed to criticize volunteers for not taking legal risks :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 5:16: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gccomm.net (unix1.gccomm.net [207.8.140.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5D314D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 05:16:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Admin@DelValley.net) Received: from tvmaster (tvmaster2.whyy.org [207.245.66.49]) by gccomm.net (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA47444 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701bebb16$e97fe420$3142f5cf@whyy.org> From: "Jeff Ehrenkrantz" To: Subject: SF chapter of the BAUG.ORG or "reef" Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:17:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG GHi all I'm moving to CA and would like to get in contact with any - some members of the S.F or even Berkley chapter of the BAUG.ORG or the REEF.COM folks pse E-Mail not to list. Sorry to us the list to do this but I'm going out real soon from NJ and & wish to meet some folks out there ASAP regards ..je To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 5:58:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sand4.global.net.uk (sand4.global.net.uk [194.126.80.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F8214E73 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 05:58:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from p63s12a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.220.100] helo=marder-1.) by sand4.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10vhAk-0002ly-00; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:58:06 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id NAA20147; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:56:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:56:03 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Michael Wang Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIOS extmem (48128K) != RTC extmem (15296K) Message-ID: <19990620135603.C19259@marder-1> References: <199906201149.HAA03249@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199906201149.HAA03249@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com>; from Michael Wang on Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 07:49:02AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 07:49:02AM -0400, Michael Wang wrote: > Hello BSDers: > > I have a DELL OMNI PLEX 466 with 48MB mem but it seems that > FreeBSD: > FreeBSD mike.dream-color.com 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: > can only recognize 16MB mem. I include the top display and boot > message below. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Thank you all. > This is something to do with the way the BIOS deals with memory above 16MB (I don't know the technical details). The solution is to tell FreeBSD explicitly how much RAM you have. Add the following to your kernel config file and rebuild the kernel. Note that you *must* include the quotes as the argument contains numbers. options "MAXMEM=(48*1024)" HTH > Michael Wang > http://www.mindspring.com/~mwang > > top: > > last pid: 364; load averages: 0.18, 0.14, 0.06 up 0+01:00:53 07:52:41 > 36 processes: 2 running, 34 sleeping > CPU states: 3.4% user, 0.0% nice, 14.9% system, 16.4% interrupt, 65.3% idle > Mem: 4272K Active, 3120K Inact, 3160K Wired, 2152K Cache, 1323K Buf, 480K Free > Swap: 42M Total, 4712K Used, 37M Free, 11% Inuse, 132K Out > > boot: > > [julie:/opt/home/root/DOWNLOAD]tip hardwire > connected > Console: serial port > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive B: is disk1 > BIOS drive C: is disk2 > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 639/48128kB > (jkh@cathair, Tue May 18 03:22:02 GMT 1999) > Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > /kernel text=0x1c9d1a data=0x1def8+0x21868 syms=[0x4+0x261c0+0x4+0x26284] > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K), setting to BIOS value > BIOS extmem (48128K) != RTC extmem (15296K) > Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jun 20 00:34:40 EDT 1999 > root@mike.dream-color.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 > Features=0x3 > real memory = 16711680 (16320K bytes) > avail memory = 13139968 (12832K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0358000. > eisa0: > Probing for devices on the EISA bus > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 > vga0: rev 0x02 int a irq 9 on pci0.4.0 > chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.11.0 > Probing for PnP devices: > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: > sc0 on isa > sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> > ed0 not found at 0x280 > fe0 not found at 0x300 > atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard > atkbd0 irq 1 on isa > psm0 not found > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa > sio0: type 16550A, console > sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa > sio1: type 16550A > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in > fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 4028MB (8249472 sectors), 8184 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy > acd0: drive speed 2062KB/sec, 240KB cache > acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA > acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels > acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray > acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked > wdc1 not found at 0x170 > wt0 not found at 0x300 > mcd0 not found at 0x300 > matcdc0 not found at 0x230 > scd0 not found at 0x230 > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > lpt0: on ppbus 0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus 0 > plip0: on ppbus 0 > lpt0: on ppbus 0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ie0: unknown board_id: f000 > ie0 not found at 0x300 > 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 > ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa > ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:1b:10:72 > ex0 not found > le0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 > lnc0 not found at 0x280 > ze0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 > zp0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 > cs0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 > adv0 not found at 0x330 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x330 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x334 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x230 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x234 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x130 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x134 > bt0 not found at 0x134 > aha0 not found at 0x134 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa > npx0 on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > changing root device to wd0s1a > swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device > Automatic reboot in progress... > /dev/rwd0s1a: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/rwd0s1a: clean, 10298 free (626 frags, 1209 blocks, 2.0% fragmentation) > /dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 2405329 free (59049 frags, 293285 blocks, 1.5% fragmentatio > n) > /dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 19860 free (268 frags, 2449 blocks, 0.9% fragmentation) > Doing initial network setup: hostname. > ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 169.10.65.187 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 169.10.65.255 > ether 00:a0:24:1b:10:72 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > add net default: gateway 169.10.65.185 > Additional routing options: tcp extensions=NO. > routing daemons:. > Mounting NFS file systems. > additional daemons: syslogd. > Doing additional network setup: portmap. > Starting final network daemons: mountd nfsd rpc.statd nfsiod. > setting ELF ldconfig path: /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/li > b > setting a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/a > out > starting standard daemons: inetd cron sendmail. > Initial rc.i386 initialization:. > rc.i386 configuring syscons: blank_time. > Local package initialization: Wnn > Nihongo Multi Client Server (4.20) > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/kihon.dic Fid = 1 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/setsuji.dic Fid = 2 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/koyuu.dic Fid = 3 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/chimei.dic Fid = 4 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/jinmei.dic Fid = 5 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/special.dic Fid = 6 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/computer.dic Fid = 7 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/symbol.dic Fid = 8 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/tankan.dic Fid = 9 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/bio.dic Fid = 10 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/full.fzk Fid = 11 > Finished Reading Files > fopen: No such file or directory > httpd: could not open document config file /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf > Canna mysql skkserv. > Sun Jun 20 06:37:16 EDT 1999 > JJJJJJJJ > syncing disks... done > Rebooting... > Console: serial port > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive B: is disk1 > BIOS drive C: is disk2 > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 639/48128kB > (jkh@cathair, Tue May 18 03:22:02 GMT 1999) > Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > /kernel text=0x1c9d1a data=0x1def8+0x21868 syms=[0x4+0x261c0+0x4+0x26284] > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K), setting to BIOS value > BIOS extmem (48128K) != RTC extmem (15296K) > Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jun 20 00:34:40 EDT 1999 > root@mike.dream-color.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 > Features=0x3 > real memory = 16711680 (16320K bytes) > avail memory = 13139968 (12832K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0358000. > eisa0: > Probing for devices on the EISA bus > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 > vga0: rev 0x02 int a irq 9 on pci0.4.0 > chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.11.0 > Probing for PnP devices: > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: > sc0 on isa > sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> > ed0 not found at 0x280 > fe0 not found at 0x300 > atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard > atkbd0 irq 1 on isa > psm0 not found > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa > sio0: type 16550A, console > sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa > sio1: type 16550A > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in > fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 4028MB (8249472 sectors), 8184 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy > acd0: drive speed 2062KB/sec, 240KB cache > acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA > acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels > acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray > acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked > wdc1 not found at 0x170 > wt0 not found at 0x300 > mcd0 not found at 0x300 > matcdc0 not found at 0x230 > scd0 not found at 0x230 > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > lpt0: on ppbus 0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus 0 > plip0: on ppbus 0 > lpt0: on ppbus 0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ie0: unknown board_id: f000 > ie0 not found at 0x300 > 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 > ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa > ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:1b:10:72 > ex0 not found > le0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 > lnc0 not found at 0x280 > ze0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 > zp0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 > cs0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 > adv0 not found at 0x330 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x330 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x334 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x230 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x234 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x130 > bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x134 > bt0 not found at 0x134 > aha0 not found at 0x134 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa > npx0 on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > changing root device to wd0s1a > swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device > Automatic reboot in progress... > /dev/rwd0s1a: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/rwd0s1a: clean, 10297 free (633 frags, 1208 blocks, 2.0% fragmentation) > /dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 2405329 free (59049 frags, 293285 blocks, 1.5% fragmentatio > n) > /dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 18813 free (285 frags, 2316 blocks, 1.0% fragmentation) > Doing initial network setup: hostname. > ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 169.10.65.187 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 169.10.65.255 > ether 00:a0:24:1b:10:72 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > add net default: gateway 169.10.65.185 > Additional routing options: tcp extensions=NO. > routing daemons:. > Mounting NFS file systems. > additional daemons: syslogd. > Doing additional network setup: portmap. > Starting final network daemons: mountd nfsd rpc.statd nfsiod. > setting ELF ldconfig path: /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/li > b > setting a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/a > out > starting standard daemons: inetd cron sendmail. > Initial rc.i386 initialization:. > rc.i386 configuring syscons: blank_time. > Local package initialization: Wnn > Nihongo Multi Client Server (4.20) > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/kihon.dic Fid = 1 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/setsuji.dic Fid = 2 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/koyuu.dic Fid = 3 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/chimei.dic Fid = 4 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/jinmei.dic Fid = 5 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/special.dic Fid = 6 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/computer.dic Fid = 7 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/symbol.dic Fid = 8 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/tankan.dic Fid = 9 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/bio.dic Fid = 10 > Reading /usr/local/lib/wnn/ja_JP/dic/pubdic/full.fzk Fid = 11 > Finished Reading Files > fopen: No such file or directory > httpd: could not open document config file /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf > Canna mysql skkserv. > Sun Jun 20 06:52:50 EDT 1999 > > FreeBSD/i386 (mike.dream-color.com) (console) > > login: > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:markov@globalnet.co.uk http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 6:11:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983BA14D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 06:11:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tonya@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (tonya@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01319 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:10:06 -0400 (EDT) From: tonya To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ppp-2.3.8 3.2 stable pam patch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone port 2.3.8 ppp for 3.2 stable yet ? also would someone send me the pam patch or tell me where it is posted. thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 7:26:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from maui.net (maui.net [207.175.210.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E8D14D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:26:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimko@maui.net) Received: from maui.net (U1-88.Kahului.Maui.Net [207.175.210.216]) by maui.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA28685 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:26:19 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <376CFA25.3F61953B@maui.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:26:50 -1000 From: Michael Shimko X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mounting audio cdroms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to mount audio cds so that I can load the tracks into xmms, previously x11amp. I have xcdpalyer and it works fine with device=/dev/wcd0c. And, I don't have to mount it. xmms works fine with everything but my cd player!????. I've tried loading /dev/wcd0c and other audio devices, but nothing seems to work. I can't mount audio cdroms using 'mount_cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom'. What should I use????? Thanks. Michael Shimko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 7:50:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from latour.sth.frontec.se (pc242.frontec.se [193.13.194.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592C614BEC for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander.Podoplelov@sth.frontec.se) Received: from sth.frontec.se ([172.18.16.112]) by latour.sth.frontec.se (8.8.0/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA03349 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:51:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <376CFEFB.9C487896@sth.frontec.se> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:47:23 +0200 From: Alexander Podoplelov Reply-To: Alexander.Podoplelov@sth.frontec.se Organization: Frontec Tekniksystem AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Looking for some net sniffer C sources References: <376C9813.BF6B778D@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I have a task which implies to read raw data from the network interface. I would be more than happy to have a "necessary and sufficient" piece of C code for proper opening of the network interface (bpf, ioctl?), reading packets from there (I guess read() is enough :), and having structure of the packet (detecting that it belongs to IP ones; which *.h files are to be included). A working example for monitoring IP packets is wanted mostly. Also, if you know good sources to read about that (books, url), please, share that info with me. Any help is Ok. Thank you in advance, Alexander. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 8: 2:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D5514D1F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.1.2] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10vi0N-000P5W-00; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:51:27 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk (ident=ben) by rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10vi0O-0002xH-00; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:51:28 +0100 (envelope-from ben@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:51:28 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: William Woods Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Resources was RE: mouse questions... Message-ID: <19990620145127.A11311@rainbow5.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <000001bebae1$c0d5af30$1b4b93cd@william> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000001bebae1$c0d5af30$1b4b93cd@william> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG William Woods wrote: > Thanks.....I already use X, but this is for a laptop and I want to conserve > as many resources as possible (its only a P100 with 48megs memory). Hey, I'm running X on a 120MHz 486 chip with 16MB of RAM here, works fine (not a laptop though). I use twm as a window manager. (I used to use AfterStep on my other machine (Cyrix 133/48MB), but after using twm for a month or so, I've got used to it that much I may move back, it does what it needs to. I've heard good things about fvwm2, but never really got round to looking at it in great detail.) -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 8:20:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5282614DF1 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA19016; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:20:00 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Alexander Podoplelov Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for some net sniffer C sources In-Reply-To: <376CFEFB.9C487896@sth.frontec.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Alexander Podoplelov wrote: > Hello. > > I have a task which implies to read raw data from the network interface. > I would be more than happy to have a "necessary and sufficient" piece of > C code for proper opening of the network interface (bpf, ioctl?), > reading packets from there (I guess read() is enough :), and having > structure of the packet (detecting that it belongs to IP ones; which > *.h files are to be included). A working example for monitoring IP packets > is wanted mostly. > > Also, if you know good sources to read about that (books, url), please, > share that info with me. Any help is Ok. > > Thank you in advance, Alexander. look no further than "TCPdump" it's in the source tree, it should guide the way for you. you can get the source tree by executing this command: pkg_add ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CVSup/cvsupit.tgz and downloading the 300 or so megs, or you can grab the FreeBSD cdroms from Walnut Creek. www.cdrom.com good luck, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 8:34:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from frida.mra.si (frida.mra.si [193.2.116.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD10214C8B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brane@frida.mra.si) Received: from localhost (brane@localhost) by frida.mra.si (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA11906; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:46:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:46:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Branko Kmetec To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Branko Kmetec Subject: pppd problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have some problems with connecting to ISP through pppd. When I connect to ISP, I received IPs but I can't route through or ping to IP at ppp0. After I run pppd I receive: bash# Jun 20 17:18:41 master pppd[5296]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 bash# Jun 20 17:18:44 master pppd[5296]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cuaa0 bash# Jun 20 17:18:46 master pppd[5296]: local IP address 212.30.66.134 Jun 20 17:18:46 master pppd[5296]: remote IP address 212.30.66.251 With ifconfig -a I get valid IPs for ppp0, but I can't ping them. With netstat -r I don't get nothing. My configuration files are: /etc/ppp/options /dev/cuaa0 115200 connect "usr/bin/chat -f /etc/ppp/dial.chat" crtscts # enable hardware flow control modem # modem control line noipdefault # remote PPP server must supply your IP address. # if the remote host doesn't send your IP during IPCP # negotiation , remove this option passive # wait for LCP packets defaultroute # put this if you want that PPP server will be your # default router user branilov For user branilov I have a line in /etc/ppp/chap-secrets (ISP uses chap authentication). /etc/ppp/dial.chat ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' TIMEOUT 5 '' ATZ OK ATB4 OK ATDT088032320 TIMEOUT 5 CONNECT Any ideas what could be a problem? Regards, Brane To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 9: 5:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885B414C8B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doranj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: (from doranj@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) id KAA00945 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:05:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonathon Doran Message-Id: <199906201605.KAA00945@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: SMP, 4GB RAM, 4x CPU To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:05:44 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: from "O. Hartmann" at Jun 20, 99 02:34:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Benchmarking is an art (a black art, some say). I believe that the best benchmark is your application, at least you know what you are measuring. First, lets go over SMP a bit. SMP schedules at the process level, so if your Fortran program isn't parallel to start with, it won't be split magically across processors. This shouldn't be surprising, the system has no idea where sync points should be, and if it did split jobs then one processor would be accessing data the other processor was computing. With a little work you can split most scientific programs up into multiple processes. (As an aside, Multiflow had a tracescheduling compiler which was proven to obtain all the parallelism which could be detected at compile time. Intel bought them out after Multiflow folded). On the 4G of RAM issue, what motherboard/chipset supports this much? The 440GX chipsets will support 2G of RAM, and that is the max that I am aware of. While tons of RAM is nice to have, the paging system does a pretty good job, and assuming local access patterns (your program isn't touching all pages all the time), you can get good performance with less RAM. On the other hand, cache is king. The Alphas have shown this. At work, we use Alphas exclusively, since they give us the best throughput for our task (training our speech recognizer). The 2M Xeon's are _starting_ to get into a decent realm of cache, however the Alphas we use have 4M and are not the top of the line (are several years old). Given you wish to stay with Intel, then I certainly recommend large cache Xeons. Not the 512k versions, go for 2M. Since these Xeons are around $3000 per CPU the last time I checked, the Alphas are cheaper. Your objections to the cost of the Alphas don't quite make sense at this point. > workgroups with a limited budget ...). For such enormous numbercrunching > purposes we considered to buy (money rules, sorry, no Alpha!) a 4x SMP > machine with 2 or 4GB RAM to server the necessary performance and to keep > costs low -> so we have to rely on a free UN*X and I like FBSD because > of its stability ... and I like BSD style systems. But that is not the question. > We heard about tests, tests and tests again, made with the new Linux kernel (2.2x) > and many provider offering so called "number crunching" Linux systems with > 2 CPUs ( P III/550MHz). The fastest CPU isn't always the best choice for number crunching. If your app parallelizes well, then 4x PII450 will cost less and crunch more. Consider buying more than one SMP system, and running half your dataset on each box. The non-Xeon flavor of these are running around $250 each. As Grace Hopper said, you don't buy a bigger ox, you buy more oxen. > I read a lot about problems with DRAM growing up to 4GB and problems with 4 CPUs. > I have problems with two - how big are then problems and "performance losses" > with four CPUs ... Big problem: I haven't seen a motherboard supporting 4G of RAM. I'd love to see one. If anyone has a pointer, please share it so I don't mislead people in the future. > maketime of 90 to 100 minutes. That's funny, isn't it? Well, I tried > make -j8, make -j12, make -j16 and lowered it to make -j5, but always the same > result - and be aware of the fact, that the system is not used in the time > of making world!!!! You've discovered what I said before, the best benchmark is your application. Try running your Fortran app on these boxes. > > how "ggod" the SMP implementation of FreeBSD 3.2 is, how "stable" and usable > the system is for usage with 4x CPU (Xeon) and 4GB RAM. We have some offers > of Fortran vendors, and I don't want me spending a lot of money for a Linux- > emulation to get not the power of the native system running on a Linux box. > Where is the FreeBSD-SMP Roadmap? What has changed in FBSD 4.0? I've been running SMP under FreeBSD for 3+ years now. (I reported some problems when I moved up to 3.2, but the thought is that its heat. This is a good thought, especially when I opened the case and found it uncomfortable to place my hand on any metal parts :-) Since SMP is so important to your application, I really recommend you read the Intel SMP spec. Pointers off: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html Jon Doran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 9:21:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netrinsics.com (unknown [210.74.172.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC4515011; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id RAA20746; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:51:40 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:51:40 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199906200951.RAA20746@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, wwoods@cybcon.com Subject: Re: suspend problems on a Toshiba laptop.......... Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000001bebae3$89e659f0$304b93cd@william> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "William Woods" writes: >Running 3.2 Stable ona Toshiba Satellite 110CT with a P100 and 48megs ram. >After resuming from a suspend mode, I go to dial out with my 3com 56k pcmcia >modem, model #3CXM556 *which otherwise works great) and I get this: > >"No free configuration for card 3com" > >in /var/log/messages Eject card. Kill pccardd. Restart pccardd. Insert card. (Or, alternatively, fix pccardd.) -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 9:31:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.flashback.net (unknown [193.219.224.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C23014C8B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: (qmail 3306 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 16:32:31 -0000 Received: from ppp31.flashback.net (HELO ludd.luth.se) (193.220.72.31) by godzilla.flashback.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 16:32:31 -0000 Message-ID: <376D174F.E833E50F@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:31:11 +0200 From: "Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?=" Organization: Ninja Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems remounting cds for sysinstall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm having problems with sysinstall detecting the cdrom mounted under /cdrom. I use command: /sbin/mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c /cdrom = to mount the cd and my /etc/fstab line for the cdrom = looks like this: /dev/cd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 = 0 But when selecting media in /stand/sysinstall (for installing more packages for example) I get "No CDROM devices found!". If I boot with the cd in the drive, sysinstall have bo problems detecting the cd. So, what am I doing wrong here? Any help greatly appreciated! -- = Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk sv=E4ngning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Str=F6mbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 9:31:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.flashback.net (unknown [193.219.224.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 066D814C8B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: (qmail 3300 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 16:32:25 -0000 Received: from ppp31.flashback.net (HELO ludd.luth.se) (193.220.72.31) by godzilla.flashback.net with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 16:32:25 -0000 Message-ID: <376D1748.BB2D8003@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:31:04 +0200 From: "Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?=" Organization: Ninja Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems running xmms on FreeBSD 3.2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good morning! Chris wrote: > I have had similar problems. I found that adding those few lines to th= e > kernel actually makes the problem worse. I have noticed the problem is= > much worse with 0.9.1 as opposed to 0.9.. > = > If you run xmms 0.9 with rtprio, such as `rtprio 0 xmms` it works prett= y > much as it should except for the kernel messages. Yes, running xmms with rtprio 0 does make the player work, but the GUI still behaves quite strange. Also, I still get some music-lock ups. The good thing is that the IRQ/DMA-timeout messages are gone. When just running xmms with a kernel compiled with the POSIX-options suggested by Alfred, the "tried to use non-present sched_getscheduler" didn't reappear which I guess suggests that xmms is using some stuff in that POSIX library. However, I didn't get any appearant change in the quality of the music playback, but I did start to see some "OSS flush"-messages. =46rom this I guess that it's a problem with the threads and not the settings of the soundcard. (esp since both I and Chris are having similar problems). Has anybody else on freebsd-questions tried xmms and if so, did it work? If you look at the webpage for xmms, they talk about thread-safe X libs. What's the relationship for those visavi FreeBSD? I will talk to a friend who knows the xmms-devguys. They have not shown any greater interest in FreeBSD though. If this suggests that they are not doing everything all right with thread handling, they might be more interested. Thanks so far and keep those comments and suggestions coming. -- = Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk sv=E4ngning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Str=F6mbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 9:35:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from barney.webace.com.au (unknown [203.25.160.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960D914C8B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:35:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdqst@webace.com.au) Received: from jason (jason.webace.com.au [203.25.160.112]) by barney.webace.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA24104 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:38:13 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from fbsdqst@webace.com.au) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990620163524.00680a0c@webace.com.au> X-Sender: fbsdqst@webace.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:35:24 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jason McKay Subject: Problems adding panels with FreeBSD drivers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I urgently require some assistance using the v2.0.0 Stallion EasyConnection FreeBSD drivers. I have a Stallion EasyConnection 8/64-AT (ISA), running under FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE. For a while now I've been running 1 x 16 port RJ45 panel without problems. Now I'm trying to add a 2nd panel and having allot of problems. When the system boots, the stli driver reports both panels and 32 ports. When I run stlload, I get the follow error: On-Board ROM Signature reports 16 ports STALLION: Failed to allocate memory for all devices, devices=17 I have tried to reset the board with the 'stlload -R' command, but still no luck. I would be very greatfull for any help you can provide. Thank You, Jason McKay. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 10:27:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bogslab.ucdavis.edu (bogslab.ucdavis.edu [169.237.68.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE75014CC1 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (deal1.bogs.org [198.137.203.51]) by bogslab.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09334 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deal1.bogs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by deal1.bogs.org (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA29478 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906201727.KAA29478@deal1.bogs.org> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-To: Greg Lehey X-Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD books (was: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:13:27 +0930." <19990620161327.G6820@freebie.lemis.com> Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:27:34 -0700 From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <19990620161327.G6820@freebie.lemis.com>, Greg Lehey cleopede: >> If this is correct, this makes little sense. We, the FreeBSD >> community, need to bring out our own version of "FreeBSD in a >> nutshell". Of course, we can't use that title. > >Yes, that's one of the things I've been thinking of doing. How about >"The essence of FreeBSD"? Or "The essential FreeBSD"? I use the O'Reilly "UNIX in a nutshell: a desktop quick reference for Berkeley" all the time with FreeBSD, and it is usually fairly adequate; it's not clear to me that writing a new, fbsd-specific version would be all that helpful. What would really be of value, I think, is something on the order of "A Free UNIX Reference", and it should emphasize the similarities while dealing with the differences of current Linux and *BSD systems. Given the present trend toward Linux, this might be the best way to put the attributes of *BSD before the maximum number of interested readers. It could also be really useful if you are reasonably fluent in one flavor of free unix, but have a problem that would be solved most efficiently by using another. And IMHO it would be at least as useful as any standard reference to a single one of the target systems. -Greg Shenaut To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 10:33: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from showcase.pdsys.com (showcase.pdsys.com [207.167.12.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A177914CC1 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@pdsys.com) Received: from pdsys.com ([24.108.11.34]) by showcase.pdsys.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-56457U100L100S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:29:35 -0600 Message-ID: <376D25F7.EC0B8A78@pdsys.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:33:43 -0600 From: Jim Whitelaw Organization: Pathways Data Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD books (was: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)) References: <37688E8F.C67AC3BC@hello.com.tw> <19990617160147.L9893@freebie.lemis.com> <376928B4.B0D91BC4@hello.com.tw> <19990617101533.A60003@ontario.mooseriver.com> <19990620161327.G6820@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > Yes, that's one of the things I've been thinking of doing. How about > "The essence of FreeBSD"? Or "The essential FreeBSD"? How about "The Concise FreeBSD"? It complements "The Complete FreeBSD" nicely, and should make it easy for the bookshelf browser to determine which is the quick-start "just the basics" guide, and which is the full-blown "kitchen sink" manual. -- ========================================================================= Jim Whitelaw tel: +1.780.975.1534 jim-at-pdsys-dot-com fax: +1.780.484.9239 Pathways Data Systems Inc. http://www.pdsys.com/ ========================================================================= "It is best to assume that the network is filled with malevolent entities that will send packets designed to have the worst possible effect." - F.Baker, RFC1812 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 10:56:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.58.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9A214C9B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@slinger.net) Received: from tom (MILWB209-11.splitrock.net [209.252.159.80]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11772 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:56:40 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01bebb45$c16df920$509ffcd1@nconnect.net> From: "Tom Good" To: Subject: Configuring the Kenel Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:53:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have used freeBSD 2.x for a long time and I just upgraded to 3.2 and I can't for the life of me figure out how to do post install modifations to the hardware config list (like you used to do with -cv) during boot. Thanks Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 11:12:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fwnau004.usco.com (proxy.usco.com [207.92.15.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B9514C17 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bLiotta@USCO.com) Received: from ntnau210.usco.com (ntnau210.usco.com [172.16.66.43]) by fwnau004.usco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01858 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ntnau210.usco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:12:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Liotta, Bob" To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Upgrading to 3.2 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:12:33 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I currently have 3.0-RELEASE on a Pentium Overdrive machine. When Upgrading to 3.2, I get to the second disk where it is just starting to probe the hardware, and it just reboots. Do you have any ideas? It does get to the boot prompt. It is right after that point. I see the spinning cursor. Then reboot. Bob Liotta Champion, Internet Services USCO Logistics Voice: 203-578-4475 Fax: 203-597-5364 E-Mail: bliotta@usco.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 11:16:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D01F914C17 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 11456 invoked from network); 20 Jun 1999 18:16:14 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO speedy) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 1999 18:16:14 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990620105227.009bcf00@mail-r> X-Sender: ludwigp@toy.chip-web.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0700 To: murban@webzone.net, questions@freebsd.org From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: Nt outperforms Linux for web/file server? In-Reply-To: <32CD9227.8EE6E6F4@webzone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You're behind by a few months. When this test first came out (and it was NOT done by PC Magazine. It was done my mindcraft, an "independent" lab which has given flawed comparisons in the past as well), there was a large thread on how this comparison could have been messed up/altered to favor NT. If you search the mailing list archives, you could probably find the link to the step-by-step dissection of the flaws in the Mindcraft study. At 04:11 PM 1/3/1997 , Mike Urban wrote: >I know this is a FreeBSD list, but this will probably be of interest to >people here anyway. Has anyone seen Microsoft's report on the >independant study that was done on the performance of NT vs Linux? >According to their charts, graphs etc, NT blew Linux away in both file >server and web server performance. I bring this up because unless there >is a serious performance difference between Linux and FreeBSD, these >test results would probably apply to FreeBSD as well.. > >I think the test was done by PC Magazine (hardly independant in my way >of thinking since they recieve big advertising $ from Microsoft.). My >http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/exec/compares/ntlinux.asp --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 11:20:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.59.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2F714DEE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetsuya1@prodigy.net) Received: from prodigy.net (RENOB103-06.splitrock.net [209.156.128.52]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA88046; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:20:44 -0400 Message-ID: <376D310F.F7CEDE2B@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:21:03 -0700 From: Tetsuya Watanabe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, de, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: intel piix4 tuning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I would like to know how to turn on DMA33 or piomode4, at least, of intel piix4 chip. I am sure wdc0 is a dma33 hdd. Thank you. I have the following parameters in my kernel: controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM I now have the following dmesg output: ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 6197MB (12692736 sectors), 12592 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 3077MB (6303024 sectors), 6253 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 4134MB (8467200 sectors), 8400 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 2412 - 5512KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked Tetsuya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 11:49:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B20B14C17 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1210.bossig.com [208.26.241.210]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26233; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <376D3795.613E1B1D@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:48:53 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@3-cities.com Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tetsuya Watanabe Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: intel piix4 tuning References: <376D310F.F7CEDE2B@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tetsuya Watanabe wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to know how to turn on DMA33 or piomode4, at least, of > intel piix4 chip. I am sure wdc0 is a dma33 hdd. Thank you. I use the flags from the wdc2 example in the /sys/i386/conf/LINT on my HD controllers. The read rate on my main drive went from 3.8MB/s to 14+MB/s. My main drive supports UDMA33 and the rest are PIO 4. I used the same setting for all four drives. It negotiated down to what the device supported. Kent > > I have the following parameters in my kernel: > controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 > disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 > disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 > > controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 > disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 > disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 > > options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus > options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM > device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM > > I now have the following dmesg output: > ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 6197MB (12692736 sectors), 12592 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): > wd1: 3077MB (6303024 sectors), 6253 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): > wd2: 4134MB (8467200 sectors), 8400 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , > removable, dma, iordy > acd0: drive speed 2412 - 5512KB/sec, 128KB cache > acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA > acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels > acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray > acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked > > Tetsuya > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 11:55:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A2314DDD for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id AAA08594; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:54:27 +0600 (UDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id AAA04254; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:06:09 +0600 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA02420; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:05:42 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:05:42 +0600 (ESS) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su To: Jonathon Doran Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP, 4GB RAM, 4x CPU In-Reply-To: <199906201605.KAA00945@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Jonathon Doran wrote: > > With a little work you can split most scientific programs up into multiple > processes. (As an aside, Multiflow had a tracescheduling compiler which > was proven to obtain all the parallelism which could be detected at compile > time. Intel bought them out after Multiflow folded). > "tracescheduling compiler" ?! what's that ? could it compile f77 ? HPF ? where can i download it ? it costs anything ? regards, Ilia Chipitsine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 12:12:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301A014CF7 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doranj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: (from doranj@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) id NAA01179 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:12:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonathon Doran Message-Id: <199906201912.NAA01179@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: SMP, 4GB RAM, 4x CPU To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:12:10 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: from "Ilia Chipitsine" at Jun 21, 99 00:05:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a short summary to the list, since this is way off topic. The compiler isn't available outside of Intel (to the best of my knowledge). It requires a VLIW architecture. Intel spent a bunch of money on Multiflow, and this compiler was probably the only thing of value to them, so it will never be free. And, yes, it did f77. Jon Doran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 12:31:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.59.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE80E14BEA for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:31:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetsuya1@prodigy.net) Received: from prodigy.net (RENOB102-46.splitrock.net [209.156.128.46]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA55156; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:31:25 -0400 Message-ID: <376D419F.9FAA24D8@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:31:43 -0700 From: Tetsuya Watanabe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, de, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilia Chipitsine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: soundcard installation problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > > why do you use _old_ drivers ? the only benefit of them is that they > support midi. if you do not need midi go straight to new Luiggi's driver. Yes. I thought about using Luiggi's driver. But, I saw http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/awepnp-freebsd.txt and decided to use old one. > > dmesg: > > ~~ > > avail memory = 127823872 (124828K bytes) > > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02a8000. > > Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02a809c. > > ~~ > > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > > Probing for PnP devices: > > CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL002b [0x2b008c0e] Serial 0x0013d725 Comp ID: PNP0600 > > [0x0006 > > d041] > > sio1: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > > sio1: probe failed > > sio1 (siopnp sn 0x0013d725) failed to attach Can you point out the cause of this "failes to attach" dmesg output? Thank you, Tetsuya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 12:39:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6F514BEA for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tera.com) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [207.224.230.169]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08928; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20958; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:39:42 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD books (was: Amusing: LinuxCountry site runs on FreeBSD :)) Message-ID: <19990620123942.A20894@athena.tera.com> References: <19990620161327.G6820@freebie.lemis.com> <199906201727.KAA29478@deal1.bogs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95us In-Reply-To: <199906201727.KAA29478@deal1.bogs.org>; from Greg Shenaut on Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 10:27:34AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 10:27:34AM -0700, Greg Shenaut wrote: > > I use the O'Reilly "UNIX in a nutshell: a desktop quick reference > for Berkeley" all the time with FreeBSD, and it is usually fairly > adequate; it's not clear to me that writing a new, fbsd-specific > version would be all that helpful. > > What would really be of value, I think, is something on the order > of "A Free UNIX Reference", and it should emphasize the similarities > while dealing with the differences of current Linux and *BSD systems. > Given the present trend toward Linux, this might be the best way > to put the attributes of *BSD before the maximum number of interested > readers. It could also be really useful if you are reasonably > fluent in one flavor of free unix, but have a problem that would > be solved most efficiently by using another. And IMHO it would be > at least as useful as any standard reference to a single one of > the target systems. > I'll second this! There are enough tutorial docs on Free|Net|OpenBSD that writing the material is less of an issue than editing it all together. I'm sure that my AnswerMan co-writers (DaemonNews) would volunteer what we've put out and would bet that other authors would do the same. A target date of Fall, 2000 is close enough (and yet gives at least some time to breathe) to make sense. The real question is who wants to volunteer for the Sr. Editorial team?? gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 12:41:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.59.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E97D14BEA for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetsuya1@prodigy.net) Received: from prodigy.net (RENOB102-46.splitrock.net [209.156.128.46]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA103034; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:41:29 -0400 Message-ID: <376D43FC.A147944@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:41:48 -0700 From: Tetsuya Watanabe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, de, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: dmesg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Can someone explain the meaning of "di" and "q" in the following dmesg? Thanks. Tetsuya FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jun 20 12:19:07 PDT 1999 root@sub.main:/usr/src/sys/compile/july19 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Celeron (467.73-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping=5 Features=0x183f9ff> real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) config> di zp0 No such device: zp0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di ze0 No such device: ze0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di lnc0 No such device: lnc0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di le0 No such device: le0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di ie0 No such device: ie0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di fe0 No such device: fe0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di ex0 No such device: ex0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di ep0 No such device: ep0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di ed0 No such device: ed0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di cs0 No such device: cs0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di wt0 No such device: wt0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di scd0 No such device: scd0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di mcd0 No such device: mcd0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di matcdc0 No such device: matcdc0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di bt0 No such device: bt0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di aha0 No such device: aha0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di adv0 No such device: adv0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> q avail memory = 127823872 (124828K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02a8000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02a809c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 13: 2:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from turing.cs.hmc.edu (turing.cs.hmc.edu [134.173.42.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DD115049 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@turing.cs.hmc.edu) Received: from localhost (glenn@localhost) by turing.cs.hmc.edu (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05175 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:02:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Gebhart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem booting FreeBSD 3.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heylo all... I just got done installing FreeBSD 3.2 on my system. The installation went fine, and the boot screen comes up correctly. I can even use "?" to see what files are in /. But when it tries to boot using /kernel it fails with the following message: Invalid format! And then returns directly to the boot screen. Anyone have any ideas what is up with this? For reference I used to run FreeBSD 2.2.6 without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Gebhart ,http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~glenn HMC CS Staff For PGP public key finger glenn@turing.cs.hmc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 13:16:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hevanet.com (hevanet.com [198.5.254.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD0D15049 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drs@hevanet.com) Received: from don (ts02-ip05.hevanet.com [206.163.60.31]) by hevanet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA11156 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003001bebb59$ee62fa20$1f3ca3ce@don> From: "Don Sutter" To: Subject: Installing from Windows 98 or NT Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:17:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01BEBB1F.403EF280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BEBB1F.403EF280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it possible to install FreeBSD 3.2 across a local network from either = a Windows 98 workstation or an NT 4.0 Server? ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BEBB1F.403EF280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is it possible to install FreeBSD 3.2 across a local = network=20 from either a Windows 98 workstation or an NT 4.0=20 Server?
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BEBB1F.403EF280-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 13:19:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BFC15049 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:19:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19723; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:20:40 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Tetsuya Watanabe Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dmesg In-Reply-To: <376D43FC.A147944@prodigy.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Tetsuya Watanabe wrote: > Hello, > > Can someone explain the meaning of "di" and "q" in the following dmesg? > Thanks. Tetsuya > > Features=0x183f9ff T,PSE36,MMX,> > real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) > config> di zp0 > No such device: zp0 > Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config> di ze0 > No such device: ze0 > Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config> di lnc0 they are the abbreviated commands you can use in the kernel config cli: di -> disable q -> quit (and continue booting) there should be a file in /boot with the commands that are getting executed, you can modify that to remove the extra lines of "di" -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 13:21: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B3815049 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15232; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:22:01 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Don Sutter Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing from Windows 98 or NT In-Reply-To: <003001bebb59$ee62fa20$1f3ca3ce@don> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Don Sutter wrote: > Is it possible to install FreeBSD 3.2 across a local network from either a Windows 98 workstation or an NT 4.0 Server? of course, just make the install files accessable via a ftp server on the 95/NT box. (oh and please tell your mailer to wrap long lines > 74 chars) -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|bright@wintelcom.net] systems administrator and programmer Win Telecom - http://www.wintelcom.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 13:28:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd56.hotmail.com [207.82.252.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84D8015194 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:28:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from templer_@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 71137 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jun 1999 20:28:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990620202841.71136.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.99.51.150 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:28:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.99.51.150] From: templer. To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: freebsd3.1 and a modem Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:28:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG not long installed freebsd 3.1 for the first time, and really wanted to get it connected to the internet ASAP. i have moved over from linux, where i was using redhat, on there they had a command "modemtool" or something like that which let you tell the system which port the modem was connected too. i was woundering if there is something like that in freebsd at all? just at the moment i tried to use kde's KPPP to connect to the inet, only kde just hangs, and i have to kill the process to get out of it. i have not yet checked up on it, but is it easy to setup a internet connection, via command line, using chap authentication when logging in to my ISP? Thanx for any help Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 13:32:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.airmail.net (mail.airmail.net [206.66.12.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37E8E14D4C for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snoopy@airmail.net) Received: from airmail.net from [207.136.39.117] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.402) with esmtp for sender: id ; Sun, 20 Jun 99 15:32:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <376D4F66.C676F30D@airmail.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:30:30 -0500 From: "Ray D. Davis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Freebsd local users group dfw area texas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone know of a users group meeting in the dallas-fort worth texas area? Ray Davis snoopy@airmail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 13:40:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC14C14C23 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1210.bossig.com [208.26.241.210]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05408; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <376D518C.10082CFE@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:39:40 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@3-cities.com Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Gebhart Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem booting FreeBSD 3.2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Glenn Gebhart wrote: > > Heylo all... > > I just got done installing FreeBSD 3.2 on my system. The installation went > fine, and the boot screen comes up correctly. I can even use "?" to see > what files are in /. But when it tries to boot using /kernel it fails with > the following message: > > Invalid format! > > And then returns directly to the boot screen. Anyone have any ideas what > is up with this? For reference I used to run FreeBSD 2.2.6 without any > problems. Did you boot from the floppies and use sysinstall to do an upgrade. That writes a 3.2 bootblock onto your HD. Kent > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glenn Gebhart ,http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~glenn > HMC CS Staff > For PGP public key finger glenn@turing.cs.hmc.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 13:59:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dsinw.com (dsinw.com [207.149.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD6814D6B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@dsinw.com) Received: from akane (ppp93.pm3-0.pdx.dsinw.com [207.149.41.93]) by dsinw.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13773; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:52:11 -0700 () From: Rick Hamell To: "Ray D. Davis" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd local users group dfw area texas In-Reply-To: <376D4F66.C676F30D@airmail.net> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: hamellr@dsinw.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anyone know of a users group meeting in the dallas-fort worth texas > area? No, but according to http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#user there is one in Houstan. I can also add you to the list at http://www.grendal.org/freebsd/ug.html Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 14: 0:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web601.yahoomail.com (web1103.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ABA214D6B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdugo@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990620210104.24894.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.86.10.44] by web1103.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:01:04 PDT Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:01:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Bugo Smith Subject: New BSD Users Group To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BUGO:BSD Users Group of Orlando is a group based in Orlando, FL that aims to bring a *friendly* forum to all UNIX users in the central Florida area, and hopefully beyond. We would very much like to listed on the support page: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#user BUGO was created June 20, 1999 but the list of users is increasing by the hour. Our webpage is http://bsdugo.itgo.com and our mailing list is linked from there. If we can possibly exercise any benefits that Walnut of FreeBSD project can provide in the future whether it be stickers or CD's please let us know. This would be perfect for install fests and meetings. Thank you for your time. Cheers, NNJ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 14:47:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF76B153AC for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:47:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@hyperreal.org) Received: (qmail 14956 invoked by uid 12); 20 Jun 1999 21:47:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990620214706.14955.qmail@hyperreal.org> From: mike@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: dmesg In-Reply-To: from Alfred Perlstein at "Jun 20, 1999 03:20:40 pm" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:47:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL51 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Tetsuya Watanabe wrote: > > Can someone explain the meaning of "di" and "q" in the following dmesg? > > config> di zp0 > > No such device: zp0 > > Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > > they are the abbreviated commands you can use in the kernel config > cli: And the reason they are showing up, as was just pointed out to me yesterday, is because when you install FreeBSD 3.2, you get the GENERIC kernel with many device drivers compiled in. The sysinstall utility lets you disable all of those that you don't need, so there are no conflicts. But this doesn't change the kernel at all; it just changes the conf files in /boot. When Mr. Watanabe compiled a new kernel, he removed those drivers he didn't need, but didn't remove the disable ("di") commands from /boot/kernel.conf. The kernel configuration section of the FreeBSD Handbook should be updated to reflect this info. It should also be more specific about what kinds of devices do and don't need to be created with mknod. - Mike ______________________________________________________________________ Mike Brown / Hyperreal | Director, Hyperreal Music Archive PO Box 61334 | http://www.hyperreal.org/music/ Denver CO 80206-8334 USA | Software Engineer, www.netIgnite.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 15: 9:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aspen.start.com.au (unknown [203.41.118.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A1114CA3 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:09:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from backb0ne@start.com.au) Received: from hobart (unverified [203.41.118.2]) by aspen.start.com.au (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:10:44 +1000 Message-ID: From: Backb0ne To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" X-Originating-IP: [206.114.17.89] Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:06:37 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 2.62 (SMTP85107B) Subject: Problems with a PNP modem but not a Winmodem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i am Freebsd and i update my hardware buying a PNP modem (pctel 56k) that is not a winmodem. But when i boot my freebsd system nothing appers about the modem and i can´t get it using pppd. PPPd , scripts, chap, etc, is well done cause i connect to internet using my old 28 modem. Can you point me a little to configure it without Upgradeting the kernel/fbsd version ?? thank you very much. p.s. Under windows, it´s plugged on com3 using irq10. __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 15:26:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4760D14D96 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:26:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18550; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:27:35 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Backb0ne Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Problems with a PNP modem but not a Winmodem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Backb0ne wrote: > Hi, i am Freebsd and i update my hardware buying a PNP modem (pctel 56k) = that is not a winmodem. But when i boot my freebsd system nothing appers ab= out the modem and i can=B4t get it using pppd. >=20 > PPPd , scripts, chap, etc, is well done cause i connect to internet usin= g my old 28 modem. Can you point me a little to configure it without Upgrad= eting the kernel/fbsd version ?? >=20 > thank you very much. >=20 > p.s. Under windows, it=B4s plugged on com3 using irq10. ok, make sure "pnp OS" in the bios is set to "no" or "other" and NOT "win95" then check out the pnp tools available on freebsd "man pnp" -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 15:35:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from avarice.riverstyx.net (hq-port-97.harbour-dhcp-pool.infinetgroup.com [207.23.37.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4554714FF5 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unknown@riverstyx.net) Received: from avarice (unknown@avarice [207.23.37.97]) by avarice.riverstyx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01430; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:35:20 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tani Hosokawa To: Ludwig Pummer Cc: murban@webzone.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nt outperforms Linux for web/file server? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990620105227.009bcf00@mail-r> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You're also missing the fact that NT did kick Apache/Linux' ass in the test, and would have done so regardless what kernel patches/Apache tweaks were applied. Fact is, Apache's not a high performance web server, and the Linux kernel had severe flaws in its scheduler that caused it to flake out once a certain number of processes were active. In fact, even now, I fully expect IIS to outperform Linux/Apache or *BSD/Apache or */Apache on static file serving. I mean, yay Apache, but let's not get so full of Open Source happy juice that we're blind to reality... On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Ludwig Pummer wrote: > You're behind by a few months. When this test first came out (and it was > NOT done by PC Magazine. It was done my mindcraft, an "independent" lab > which has given flawed comparisons in the past as well), there was a large > thread on how this comparison could have been messed up/altered to favor > NT. If you search the mailing list archives, you could probably find the > link to the step-by-step dissection of the flaws in the Mindcraft study. > > At 04:11 PM 1/3/1997 , Mike Urban wrote: > >I know this is a FreeBSD list, but this will probably be of interest to > >people here anyway. Has anyone seen Microsoft's report on the > >independant study that was done on the performance of NT vs Linux? > >According to their charts, graphs etc, NT blew Linux away in both file > >server and web server performance. I bring this up because unless there > >is a serious performance difference between Linux and FreeBSD, these > >test results would probably apply to FreeBSD as well.. > > > >I think the test was done by PC Magazine (hardly independant in my way > >of thinking since they recieve big advertising $ from Microsoft.). My > > >http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/exec/compares/ntlinux.asp > > --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > --- tani hosokawa river styx internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 15:51:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spool.webzone.net (mail.webzone.net [205.219.23.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C03D14FF5 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murban@webzone.net) Received: from webzone.net ([208.165.100.34]) by spool.webzone.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-12689) with ESMTP id AAA26235; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:55:34 -0500 Message-ID: <376D714F.DC1AAE3E@webzone.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:55:11 -0500 From: Michael Urban Reply-To: murban@webzone.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tani Hosokawa Cc: Ludwig Pummer , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nt outperforms Linux for web/file server? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tani Hosokawa wrote: > You're also missing the fact that NT did kick Apache/Linux' ass in the > test, and would have done so regardless what kernel patches/Apache tweaks > were applied. Fact is, Apache's not a high performance web server .. Um... What?? Apache consistantly recieves very high marks on the fact that it is very fast, and very high performance. If Apache was not a high performance web server, then over half the web sites in the world would not be running it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 15:58: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from avarice.riverstyx.net (hq-port-97.harbour-dhcp-pool.infinetgroup.com [207.23.37.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0D415151 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:58:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unknown@riverstyx.net) Received: from avarice (unknown@avarice [207.23.37.97]) by avarice.riverstyx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01909; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:58:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:58:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tani Hosokawa To: Michael Urban Cc: Ludwig Pummer , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nt outperforms Linux for web/file server? In-Reply-To: <376D714F.DC1AAE3E@webzone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Michael Urban wrote: > Tani Hosokawa wrote: > > > You're also missing the fact that NT did kick Apache/Linux' ass in the > > test, and would have done so regardless what kernel patches/Apache tweaks > > were applied. Fact is, Apache's not a high performance web server .. > > Um... What?? > > Apache consistantly recieves very high marks on the fact that it is very fast, > and very high performance. If Apache was not a high performance web server, > then over half the web sites in the world would not be running it. Surely you jest :) Apache is used by most people because it's free, and by the people who don't fall into that category, because it's extensible and easy to program for. It's certainly not one of the fastest webservers out there. --- tani hosokawa river styx internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 16:34:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from avarice.riverstyx.net (hq-port-97.harbour-dhcp-pool.infinetgroup.com [207.23.37.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442D614C16 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unknown@riverstyx.net) Received: from avarice (unknown@avarice [207.23.37.97]) by avarice.riverstyx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02520; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:34:24 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:34:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Tani Hosokawa To: Jonathon Doran Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nt outperforms Linux for web/file server? In-Reply-To: <199906202303.RAA11752@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apologies if this was meant to be a private e-mail... it didn't look like it. Now, for my soapbox... anyone seen my soapbox? Ah, there it is... pass it over. Apache's slower than other webservers. I can say this because a multitude of benchmarks support my case. Even the Apache developers support this. In the discussions that took place on linux-kernel and new-httpd people said that Apache is not a high performance webserver. In the Apache Performance Tuning FAQ it says that Apache is not a high performance web server. As for Linux at that point in time being buggy scalability-wise (pre-2.2.7), that's also documented in the various mailing lists. http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/benchmarks.html That is a set of benchmarks that show that Apache is not a high performance web server, thoroughly beaten down by thttpd, Boa, mathopd, and Zeus. From the Apache performance tuning FAQ (http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/perf-tuning.html): "Apache is a general webserver, which is designed to be correct first, and fast second. " From Dean Gaudet, one of the Apache core developers, on linux-kernel (Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:28:35 PDT): '> OK. Most of the important points have been covered already. Especially > the tuning of the apache server itself is one of the most significant > issues. Uh I dunno. Unless by tuning you mean "replace apache with something that's actually fast" ;)' Point being, Apache's not fast. It's pretty fast, and it's stable, and it's easy to program for -- hence why I use it to serve 80m hits/day (just about saturating a 100Mb connection) on a couple machines, instead of jumping into thttpd and hacking code to get the same performance out of one server. Which I have done when I felt it prudent, before someone starts criticizing my "lack of hacker work ethic" or some other such bullshit. I hate it when people deny the obvious just because it's bad ol' (insert your favorite "bad guy" here, in this case Microsoft). It's naive and detrimental to everyone involved. I have yet to see Apache serve 1000 req/sec, and it probably won't inside the next 6 months. That's not me saying "Apache sux", it's me being realistic. This isn't me condemning the use of Apache either. There are plenty of tools available to the world. Find the tool that suits your purpose and use it. But don't fall into the trap of only using that one tool for everything. On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Jonathon Doran wrote: > Neither of you guys are making any sense... > > Tani says > "Apache Sux" or something similar without giving any details, or > attempting to back up this claim. (Ad Homimum) > > Micheal says: > "Everyone is using it, so its great", an argument which could be > applied to cigarettes or disco in the 70's. (Bandwagon) > > I doubt most people care how fast Apache is, since they don't serve > a high enough volume of pages, or their connection saturates before Apache > does. > > Those who do care, have the sources. And I trust they'll patch it. > > And from my point of view, it works well for my application. So I'm happy > with it. > > Jon Doran --- tani hosokawa river styx internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 16:55:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C2F14F09 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:55:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Michael.Still@ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22021 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:55:16 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.21) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma021994; Mon, 21 Jun 99 09:55:07 +1000 Received: by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 4A256796.0083A78C ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:58:01 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA From: Michael.Still@ipaustralia.gov.au To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4A256796.0083A6F6.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:53:45 +1000 Subject: Kernel patch for 3.2 (based off 2.2.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Hello. I have a 2.2.8 kernel patch which allows / to be a NFS mounted volume. I am wanting to patch 3.2 in a simialr way, and am wondering if anyone knows if the patch from 2.2.8 will just work, or if there is a 3.2 version available. This is my first foray into kernel changing, so please be gentle. Thanks, Michael PS: Yes I have checked the web, but I can't find anything. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 18:17:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wfdutil3gw.ml.com (wfdutil3f01.ml.com [206.3.74.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C8215170 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:17:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com) Received: from ewfdav02.ml.com ([199.201.57.18]) by wfdutil3gw.ml.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MLgwo-4.03) with SMTP id VAA26229 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.23.143.207 by ewfdav02.ml.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:17:45 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: by cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com (8.8.8+Sun/ML55SMX-1.02) id VAA04758; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:17:50 -0400 (EDT) From: mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com (Michael Wang) Message-Id: <199906210117.VAA04758@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: what is the command named "[" in /bin directory? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSDers: What is the command named "[" in /bin as shown below? FreeBSD mike.dream-color.com 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE Thanks. Michael Wang http://www.mindspring.com/~mwang bash# pwd /bin bash# ls -ls ./[ 46 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 46600 May 17 23:37 ./[ bash# what ./\[ ./[: Copyright (c) 1992, 1993, 1994 bash# strings ./\[ $Id: strcmp.S,v 1.4 1997/02/22 14:59:12 peter Exp $ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 18:23:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA4E15170 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:23:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA06861; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:53:31 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA45802; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:53:37 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:53:37 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Michael Wang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what is the command named "[" in /bin directory? Message-ID: <19990621105336.B6820@freebie.lemis.com> References: <199906210117.VAA04758@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906210117.VAA04758@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com>; from Michael Wang on Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 09:17:50PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 20 June 1999 at 21:17:50 -0400, Michael Wang wrote: > Dear FreeBSDers: > > What is the command named "[" in /bin as shown below? It's a synonym for 'test': $ls -li /bin/[ /bin/test 1435 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 48732 Jun 18 11:29 /bin/[ 1435 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 48732 Jun 18 11:29 /bin/test It's used for things like: if [ -f /unix ]; then echo "System V"; elif [ -f /kernel ]; then echo BSD; fi Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 18:28:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C244115170 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:28:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA06888; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:58:07 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA45852; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:58:15 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:58:15 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: yangweimin Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing from DOS partition (was: Requiry) Message-ID: <19990621105815.C6820@freebie.lemis.com> References: <00aa01bebb84$c4623440$7d03910a@host.sriptnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <00aa01bebb84$c4623440$7d03910a@host.sriptnet>; from yangweimin on Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 09:24:06AM +0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [moved to -questions; this isn't a documentation issue] On Monday, 21 June 1999 at 9:24:06 +0800, yangweimin wrote: > Sir, > I've tried many times to intall freebsd through "DOS partion", but > it give me the information "Can't find bin, game, ports...". > How can I config the option? You need to put the software on the disk. > How can I install the FreeBSD in the logical partion E? You can't. You need a physical partition for FreeBSD. In general, you're *much* better off installing from CD-ROM and ignoring Microsoft. You'll find more information in the online handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/). Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 18:44:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wfdutil3gw.ml.com (wfdutil3f01.ml.com [206.3.74.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA4415170 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:44:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com) Received: from ewfdav02.ml.com ([199.201.57.18]) by wfdutil3gw.ml.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MLgwo-4.03) with SMTP id VAA28594 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.23.143.207 by ewfdav02.ml.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:44:06 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: by cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com (8.8.8+Sun/ML55SMX-1.02) id VAA04783; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:44:11 -0400 (EDT) From: mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com (Michael Wang) Message-Id: <199906210144.VAA04783@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what is the command named "[" in /bin directory? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Dear FreeBSDers: > > > > What is the command named "[" in /bin as shown below? > > It's a synonym for 'test': > > $ls -li /bin/[ /bin/test > 1435 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 48732 Jun 18 11:29 /bin/[ > 1435 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 48732 Jun 18 11:29 /bin/test > > It's used for things like: > > if [ -f /unix ]; then > echo "System V"; > elif [ -f /kernel ]; then > echo BSD; > fi Thank you very much for the quick response. Solaris [System V] treats test, cd, alias, bg, ..., 17 such "command" as ksh built in. See below. It is interesting to see that BSD treats "[" as a real command. Thanks again. Michael Wang http://www.mindspring.com/~mwang [julie:/opt/home/root]more /usr/bin/test #!/bin/ksh # #ident "@(#)alias.sh 1.1 95/02/06 SMI" # # Copyright (c) 1995 by Sun Microsystems, Inc. # cmd=`basename $0` $cmd "$@" [julie:/opt/home/root]ls -lsdi /usr/bin/test 245612 1 -r-xr-xr-x 17 bin bin 131 Oct 6 1998 /usr/bin/test [julie:/opt/home/root]find /usr/bin -inum 245612 /usr/bin/alias /usr/bin/bg /usr/bin/cd /usr/bin/command /usr/bin/fc /usr/bin/fg /usr/bin/getopts /usr/bin/hash /usr/bin/jobs /usr/bin/kill /usr/bin/read /usr/bin/test /usr/bin/type /usr/bin/ulimit /usr/bin/umask /usr/bin/unalias /usr/bin/wait To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 19: 5: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from f04n01.cac.psu.edu (f04s01.cac.psu.edu [128.118.141.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D801314D4C for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hpk104@psu.edu) Received: from hpk104 (1Cust120.tnt1.philadelphia2.pa.da.uu.net [208.253.12.120]) by f04n01.cac.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA60190 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:05:03 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990620220239.0092db00@email.psu.edu> X-Sender: hpk104@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:09:27 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Harris Subject: installation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hope this is the right list to ask this qustion on, but i'm having troubles with installation. I've tried both 3.1 and 2.2.6, and after installation i get the same error. The kernel starts the boot up process, and then i get an error stating "priviliged instruction fault while in kernel mode" and it auto-reboots. I have used linux for almost a year, and after i was told by a friend how much easier freebsd is to install, and more stable to run, i am quite interested in getting this working. Can anyone tell me what is wrong and how to correct this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 19:40:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.263.net (unknown [202.96.44.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8438514D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryuson@263.net) Received: (fmail 13472 invoked from network); 21 Jun 1999 02:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 263.net) (202.96.44.21) by smtp3 with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 02:44:59 -0000 Received: (fmail 24019 invoked by uid 1004); 21 Jun 1999 02:37:03 -0000 Date: 21 Jun 1999 02:37:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990621023703.24018.fmail@263.net> Reply-To: ryuson@263.net From: ryuson@263.net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: about dns? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: I use PPP and dynamic IP addresses get in internet.I think use dns will raise my speed on internet.Is it right? Because it's dynamic IP addresses,so I think I only use cache-only dns.Is it right? I had viewed tutorials about use dns at www.freebsd.org,but I think these tutorials treat of static IP addresses. I wanna ask how to use dns on my computer? Ryuson _____________________________________________ Ê׶¼ÔÚÏß--ÏȽøÖйúÈ˵ÄÍøÉϼÒÔ° http://www.263.net Ãâ·ÑÓÊÏä ÓʼþÔÓÖ¾ Ç©ÃûÓʼþ Óʼþ¼ÓÃÜ Óʼþ×·Éíºô ËÑË÷ÒýÇæ ¸öÈËÕ¾µã ÔÚÏßÓÎÏ· ÍøÉÏÁÄÌì ÍøÉϹҺŠ½ðÈÚÍõ¹ú ÔÚÏßɱ¶¾ ÌøÔéÊг¡ Èí¼þÏÂÔØ ÐÝÏÐÓéÀÖ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 19:45: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pokey.local.net (tcs3-49.arl.netwalk.net [216.69.200.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E16F14D71 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:44:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmutter@netwalk.com) Received: from insomnia.local.net (insomnia.local.net [192.168.2.3]) by pokey.local.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA05487; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:41:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jmutter@insomnia.local.net) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "James A. Mutter" Reply-To: jmutter@netwalk.com To: Michael Urban Cc: Tani Hosokawa , Ludwig Pummer , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nt outperforms Linux for web/file server? In-Reply-To: <376D714F.DC1AAE3E@webzone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> You're also missing the fact that NT did kick Apache/Linux' ass in the :> test, and would have done so regardless what kernel patches/Apache tweaks :> were applied. Fact is, Apache's not a high performance web server .. : :Um... What?? : :Apache consistantly recieves very high marks on the fact that it is very fast, :and very high performance. If Apache was not a high performance web server, :then over half the web sites in the world would not be running it. I've never seen anything that suggests Apache is a _fast_ web server. What Apache is is (1) Free, (2) Reliable, and finally, (3) Configurable as hell. The above reasons are why most people run Apache. Speed has nothing to do with it. FWIW: I, and I suspect lots of others, would gladly trade speed for reliability any day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 20:50:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.portal2.com (ns1.portal2.com [203.85.226.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E246614C18 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 20:50:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yusufg@outblaze.com) Received: (qmail 8570 invoked from network); 21 Jun 1999 04:11:08 -0000 Received: from yusufg.portal2.com (203.85.226.249) by ns1.portal2.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 04:11:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 2683 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jun 1999 03:50:41 -0000 Date: 21 Jun 1999 03:50:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990621035041.2682.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com> From: Yusuf Goolamabbas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Maximum number of subdirs which can be created in a dir ? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Is 32767 the magic number of sub-dirs which can be created in a directory. Is there any way to increase this number. This seems to be derived from the define LINK_MAX in sys/syslimits.h Thanks, Yusuf -- Yusuf Goolamabbas yusufg@outblaze.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 20:57:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server4.reno.powernet.net (server4.reno.powernet.net [208.226.189.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD83614C18 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 20:57:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trzy@powernet.net) Received: from p3-21.reno.powernet.net (p3-21.reno.powernet.net [208.226.189.141]) by server4.reno.powernet.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19260; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 20:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 20:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Bart Trzynadlowski X-Sender: trzy@Brzuszek To: Andrew MacIntyre Cc: "J.M. Paden" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x configuration files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Immediately after I sent the message I figured that out, thats a big "oops" on my part. Thanks for helping me out though! Bart Trzynadlowski On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Andrew MacIntyre wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jun 1999, Bart Trzynadlowski wrote: > > > file but now X goes to the point where it displays that gray-ish weaving > > background with an X cursor and just quits. The only message is something > > about XKEYBOARD keymap compiler and that errors here are not fatal to the > > X server. Yet it shuts down anyway. My xinitrc is included below. I > > changed nothing except for what is below the "# start some nice programs" > > line. Everything else was originally in the xinitrc file. Thanks for the > > help! > > {...} > > > wmaker & > ^ > xinitrc needs to wait on something, and that is nearly always the window > manager. drop the " &" and it should work. > > -- > Andrew I MacIntyre "These thoughts are mine alone..." > E-mail: andrew.macintyre@aba.gov.au (work) | Snail: PO Box 370 > andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au (play) | Belconnen ACT 2616 > Fido: Andrew MacIntyre, 3:620/243.18 | Australia > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 21: 2:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailext02.compaq.com (mailext02.compaq.com [207.18.199.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B04C14F2A for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Anand.Vishwanathan@compaq.com) Received: from mailext02.compaq.com by mailext02.compaq.com via smail with esmtp id for ; Sun, 20 Jun 99 23:02:47 -0500 (CDT) (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.10 built 27-oct-98) Received: from mail.compaq.com([not looked up]) (peer mailint02.compaq.com[207.18.199.35]) by mailext02.compaq.com with SMTP id rcv015954; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from excsin-gh01.asia.compaq.com(really [16.177.2.7]) by mail.compaq.com via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Sun, 20 Jun 99 23:02:28 -0500 (CDT) (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.10 built 18-dec-97) Received: by EXCSIN-GH01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) id ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:02:25 +0800 Message-ID: <1EF0BD7C3645D1118B7D08002BBC039F3F7615@shlexc1.snl.dec.com> From: "Vishwanathan, Anand" To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: API for routing table access Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:01:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have just started using freeBSD and getting to grips with it. I require the following information in a hurry and would be very happy with a prompt response. The question is :- Is there any programmable interface (any kernel level call) to IP routing table in FreeBSD (List routes in sequence etc) ? Regards, Anand To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 21:42:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A5614D4C for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07102; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:42:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:42:32 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Yusuf Goolamabbas Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Maximum number of subdirs which can be created in a dir ? Message-ID: <19990620234232.A6655@dan.emsphone.com> References: <19990621035041.2682.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <19990621035041.2682.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com>; from "Yusuf Goolamabbas" on Mon Jun 21 03:50:41 GMT 1999 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Jun 21), Yusuf Goolamabbas said: > Hi, Is 32767 the magic number of sub-dirs which can be created in a > directory. Is there any way to increase this number. This seems to be > derived from the define LINK_MAX in sys/syslimits.h in /sys/ufs/ufs/dinode.h, in struct dinode: int16_t di_nlink; /* 2: File link count. */ which means it's limited to a 16-byte value (so theoretically 65535, but it's a signed value). Do you really have 32767 subdirs? ffs has to do a linear traversal of the directory to find any entry; that can slow down file access. Have you thought about making multiple directory levels? -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 22:38:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp5.jps.net (smtp5.jps.net [209.63.224.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B9E14D7A for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulairi@jps.net) Received: from ulairi (208-237-196-107.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.107]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA28620; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ulairi" To: "Tetsuya Watanabe" Cc: "Questions" Subject: RE: dmesg Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:37:59 -0700 Message-ID: <000701bebba8$38c6b900$6bc4edd0@ulairi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <376D43FC.A147944@prodigy.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 those are the command-line config parameters configuring the kernel according to your specs di is for "delete" q is for "quit and save" For the life of me, I do not recall WHEN this comes up, though. | | Hello, | | Can someone explain the meaning of "di" and "q" in the | following dmesg? | Thanks. Tetsuya | | | | FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jun 20 12:19:07 PDT 1999 | root@sub.main:/usr/src/sys/compile/july19 | Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz | CPU: Celeron (467.73-MHz 686-class CPU) | Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping=5 | | Features=0x183f9ff> | real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) | config> di zp0 | No such device: zp0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0.2i iQA/AwUBN23PmlR8Yh25VFLEEQKzXwCfYQAmzLoUGjxPD2Eq4bCDaXSN3B4AoJcG 0vLmZ45l7x6cLkDv3FfMM6Ug =7Jzw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 22:39:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from apogee.whack.org (apogee.whack.org [209.152.153.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8AE14D7A for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@whack.org) Received: from andrew by apogee.whack.org with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10vwnj-0002Y8-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:39:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:39:23 -0700 From: Andrew Perkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: change root device with /boot/loader Message-ID: <19990620223923.C9116@apogee.whack.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everyone, After searching for the answer to this question, I have noticed that other folks are having the same sort of problem, and no answer has been posted. 1. Intro FreeBSD 3.x (3.2-RELEASE in my case) uses a new 'third stage' boot loader to augment the limited feature set of the 'second stage' boot loader that many 2.2.x users are familiar with. 2. Problem When FreeBSD is installed on the secondary IDE master drive, it becomes necessary to explicitly specify an alternate root device. This can be accomplished by telling the 'second stage' boot loader where to boot from: (i.e. 0:wd(x,a)kernel in /boot.config, where 'x' is the drive number). However, if one wishes to use some features of the 'third stage' boot loader, setting rootdev may not give the desired result as 'lsdev' in '/boot/loader' prints something like: A: disk0 C: disk1 ... freebsd partitions here ... D: disk2 when in reality, the BIOS boot order is set to 'D,A' and the FreeBSD partitions should be located under disk2 (where they really do exist, and where the kernel will look for them once loaded.) 3. Question How does one set the secondary IDE master drive as the root device using /boot/loader.conf or related files? 4. Closing If anyone feels the need for further clarification of this issue, feel free to ask. Just so this one doesn't pop up, I have an ASUS P2B with Award BIOS. Cordially, _____________________________________________ Andrew Perkins andrew@violet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 20 22:47: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BEB14D7A for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:47:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doranj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: (from doranj@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) id XAA04444 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:47:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonathon Doran Message-Id: <199906210547.XAA04444@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: API for routing table access To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:47:04 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: <1EF0BD7C3645D1118B7D08002BBC039F3F7615@shlexc1.snl.dec.com> from "Vishwanathan, Anand" at Jun 21, 99 12:01:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is there any programmable interface (any kernel level call) to > IP routing table in FreeBSD (List routes in sequence etc) ? If you're in a hurry, take a look at the source for netstat, in /usr/src/usr.bin/netstat. I could have swore I used to use an ioctl to get this info... but now people are pulling it out of kernel tables using kvm. Jon Doran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 0:25:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.twrol.com (ras3-2.wizrealm.com [208.153.237.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956F914F1D for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dionysos3@crosswinds.net) Received: from localhost (dionysos3@localhost) by neptune.twrol.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03137; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:28:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from dionysos3@crosswinds.net) X-Authentication-Warning: neptune.twrol.com: dionysos3 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:28:17 -0600 (MDT) From: "James R. Shrenk" X-Sender: dionysos3@neptune.twrol.com To: Backb0ne Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Problems with a PNP modem but not a Winmodem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm sorry to have to say this to you, but all PCTel 56K modems are software driven and will not function in FreeBSD. In all honesty, the PCTel chipset hardly works at all even in windows. I would recommend that if you can, take the modem back and if you have the money, look for an external modem as these are most assuredly hardware driven. James On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Backb0ne wrote: > Hi, i am Freebsd and i update my hardware buying a PNP modem (pctel 56k) that is not a winmodem. But when i boot my freebsd system nothing appers about the modem and i can4t get it using pppd. > > PPPd , scripts, chap, etc, is well done cause i connect to internet using my old 28 modem. Can you point me a little to configure it without Upgradeting the kernel/fbsd version ?? > > thank you very much. > > p.s. Under windows, it4s plugged on com3 using irq10. > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 1: 4:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.tm.net.my (mta1.tm.net.my [202.188.95.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BEA14F3A; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:04:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rezath@tm.net.my) Received: from tm.net.my ([202.188.127.2]) by mta1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with ESMTP id <19990621080401.WMYP3564@tm.net.my>; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:04:01 +0800 Message-ID: <376DF3C8.1F9FA6CD@tm.net.my> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:11:52 +0800 From: Rezamys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: stephen@math.missouri.edu, aling@alum.mit.edu, phk@freebsd.org Subject: CTM Upgrade Process 3.1 -> 3.2 stable Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2B06DD778E51E350F39A6DA9" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------2B06DD778E51E350F39A6DA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello guys, Just to double check. I know, i know... I'm a little cautious here... Having all the src-3 downloaded to my freebie box now it's time to experience the "unpredictable" upgrading process. Anyways the src-3.0100xEmpty.gz --> 0181.gz (all of it) is in the /root directory where I downloaded from. Here is my list of task/s that i need to next. I hope it is correct: * delete subdirectory under /usr/src. Command is: cd /usr/src; rm -rf* * create a directory. Say, ~myhome/ctmfiles * then cd /usr/src, ctm ~myhome/ctmfiles/src-* * do buildworld and then makeworld * build kernel * reboot * wait till the pc blows! just kidding.... Advise is highly appreciated. --------------2B06DD778E51E350F39A6DA9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello guys,

Just to double check. I know, i know... I'm a little cautious here...
Having all the src-3 downloaded to my freebie box now it's time to experience the "unpredictable" upgrading process.

Anyways the src-3.0100xEmpty.gz --> 0181.gz (all of it) is in the /root directory where I downloaded from.

Here is my list of task/s that i need to next. I hope it is correct:

  • delete subdirectory under /usr/src. Command is: cd /usr/src; rm -rf*
  • create a directory. Say, ~myhome/ctmfiles
  • then cd /usr/src,  ctm ~myhome/ctmfiles/src-*
  • do buildworld and then makeworld
  • build kernel
  • reboot
  • wait till the pc blows! just kidding....
Advise is highly appreciated. --------------2B06DD778E51E350F39A6DA9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 1:21:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from titan.metropolitan.at (mail.metropolitan.at [195.212.98.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994C214C12 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:20:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mladavac@metropolitan.at) Received: by TITAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:23:59 +0200 Message-ID: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C1100276179688@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> From: Ladavac Marino To: "'mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: what is the command named "[" in /bin directory? Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:16:17 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com [SMTP:mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com] > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 3:44 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: what is the command named "[" in /bin directory? > > > Thank you very much for the quick response. Solaris [System V] > treats test, cd, alias, bg, ..., 17 such "command" as ksh built in. > See > below. It is interesting to see that BSD treats "[" as a real command. > > > Thanks again. [ML] They are built in in pdksh, bash, tcsh, etc as well. They are not built in in /bin/sh. Not even in Solaris. And /bin/sh is the standard scripting shell. However, the /bin/sh may be internally interpreting [ as a call to test (which the FreeBSD /bin/sh apparently does not do, hence /bin/[). > Michael Wang > http://www.mindspring.com/~mwang > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 1:39:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88A214C13 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00528; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:24:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <376CC158.D927FD08@prime.net.ua> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:24:24 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cjclark@home.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Broken FAT FS During Install References: <199906191552.LAA22884@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Crist J. Clark" wrote: > [______ _. _______] wrote, > > I dont know will it help in ur case. > > Try to use WIN95 "sys" utility to restore > > boot record for WIN partition. > > Hmmm, I have been avoiding a M$ solution. It's well known that Win9x > will over-write boot blocks without asking and other Bad Things. I > assume that this 'restoration' of my Win9x OS is going to clobber > BootEasy and I'll need to be ready to reinstall it? > AFAIK "sys" only rewrites partition's boot record not MBR so ur booteasy remains intact. > > This is getting a little off topic, but how do I use this 'sys' > utility? Is it on a Win95 boot floppy (there are such beasts, right?)? > Just format floppy with system files to bee stored and copy there "sys" form windows\command dir. Boot with it and do "sys c:". Couple years ago when I used both WINDOZE & FreeBSD on my PC I had situation with corrupted WIN's boot sector. I used FreeBSD bootmanager and I know it's easy to restore it. > Because the system in question does not have a bootable CDROM, and my > first impulse to get at this 'sys' would be a Windoze95 CDROM. > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 1:52:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from titan.metropolitan.at (mail.metropolitan.at [195.212.98.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F6514D17 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mladavac@metropolitan.at) Received: by TITAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:55:29 +0200 Message-ID: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C1100276179689@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> From: Ladavac Marino To: 'Joe Royce' , Mark Thomas Cc: Woody Carey , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: cannot mount cd indicates bad ide cd drive - replace? Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:49:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Royce [SMTP:joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 5:51 PM > To: Mark Thomas > Cc: Woody Carey; 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' > Subject: RE: cannot mount cd indicates bad ide cd drive - > replace? > > > > On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Mark Thomas wrote: > > > At 08:02 AM 6/18/99 -0700, Woody Carey wrote: > > >> Did you configure and install a custom kernel without 9660 > support? > > >Not to my knowledge. What will my kernel config file contain to > confirm > > >this? > > > > Looks like you need: > > > > options CD9660 > > > > At least. Likely: > > > > options CD9660_ROOT > > > > Would be good. > > > > >The cd drive shows up in dmesg as both acd0, and w??0 unit 1. The > > >/etc/fstab > > >is trying to mount_cd9660 -o ro -o noauto /dev/wdc0 /cdrom. > > >> > > What is the output of dmesg? According to above it looks like you're > trying to mount your hard drive. [ML] His IDE hard disk controller. /dev/wcd0c would have been correct. > -Joe > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 2: 3: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fregat.dp.ua (fregat.dp.ua [195.24.137.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACD714C13 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:02:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@fregat.dp.ua) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by fregat.dp.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14831 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:02:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mark@fregat.dp.ua) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:02:30 +0300 (EEST) From: Mark Nalbandyan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IPFW Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! There is a set of questions relating to FreeBSD IPFW. 1. According to ipfw(8), it's possible to specify keywords `in' and 'out' with `recv'. So, what does the rule `... out recv ed0' mean? Does it matches the packets been received via ed0 and now are on the way out? What are the differences between the next rules: .... from any to any in and .... from any to any in recv any .... from any to any out and .... from any to any out xmit any ? 2. I need a rule allowing all transit traffic thru my router and nothing more. So, I specify: allow all from any to any out recv any xmit any but it seems to be wrong. For example, it doesn't match packets routed on the way ppp2 --> [router] --> ed0. Q: What is wrong in this rule and how I can do this? 3. Suppose the rules .... from A to B and .... from A to B via C are logically equivalently. What of them is "faster"? Does `via C' perform any additional checking or does it help to bypass some checking? This is typical when the only network interface exists. Should anyone specify this interface with each rule to accelerate processing or should he avoid to do this? Sincerely yours, Mark. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 2: 7:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.island.net.au (mail.island.net.au [203.28.142.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD2314C13 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hugh@mail.island.net.au) Received: from localhost (hugh@localhost) by mail.island.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA14991 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:07:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:07:38 +1000 (EST) From: Hugh Blandford To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Signal 11 on Route during startup but ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I have a bit of a puzzle. I have a 2.2.8 machine which with a static route configured. It used to be in rc.conf in the appropriate place. The other day I actually needed to reboot and it came up with a signal 11 on startup. However, if I put the command for a static route in rc.local it is OK. Any suggestions as to why this is a problem?? Hugh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 2:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from titan.metropolitan.at (mail.metropolitan.at [195.212.98.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998DE14DDD for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:23:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mladavac@metropolitan.at) Received: by TITAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:26:18 +0200 Message-ID: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C110027617968A@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> From: Ladavac Marino To: "'mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com'" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: serial console: /etc/ttys modification needed? Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:20:37 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com [SMTP:mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 1:57 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: serial console: /etc/ttys modification needed? > > Dear BSDers: > > The FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE boot disk allows me to install the OS via > a serial console, that is very nice. However after the installation, > the kernel does not probe for serial console anymore. So I have to > rebuild the kernel by adding a line in the configuration file: > > device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x20 irq 4 > > It boots from serial console, but the login prompt does not appear. > After I modify /etc/ttys as follows, and it does. > > # console none unknown off secure > console "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > > My question is, why do I need to modify the file? Why it is not needed > with "real" console? Thanks. [ML] Because, otherwise the console output goes to vt0, and vt0 is already supplied with it's getty line. /Marino > Michael Wang > http://www.mindspring.com/~mwang > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 2:49:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dunapack.hu (mail.dunapack.hu [194.143.225.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE17D14C13 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antalr@MAIL.DUNAPACK.HU) Received: from zaphod.dunapack.hu ([10.64.2.32]) by mozart.dunapack.hu with ESMTP id <40324>; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:48:16 +0200 Received: from grumpy.dunapack.hu [10.65.1.42] (mail) by zaphod.dunapack.hu with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1 (Debian)) id 10w0go-0003L5-00; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:48:30 +0200 Received: from antal by grumpy.dunapack.hu with local (Exim 1.92 #1 (Debian)) id 10w0go-0002Fc-00; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:48:30 +0200 Message-ID: <19990621114830.A6309@grumpy.dunapack.hu> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:48:30 +0200 From: Antal Ritter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems running xmms on FreeBSD 3.2 Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <376D1748.BB2D8003@ludd.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?=3C376D1748=2EBB2D8003=40ludd=2Eluth=2Ese=3E=3B_from_Joac?= =?iso-8859-2?Q?him_Str=F6mbergson_on_Sun=2C_Jun_20=2C_1999_at_06:31:04PM?= =?iso-8859-2?Q?_+0200?= Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I tried xmms 0.9 on FreeSBD 3.1-R and have similar experiences. I also think that the problem has to do something with the threads. Antal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 3: 1:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.jad.net (unknown [202.134.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B06114C12 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:01:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dibyo@jad.net) Received: from office (ppp043.dpr.vidas.telkom.net.id [203.130.255.43]) by server.jad.net (8.8.5/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA03549 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:00:32 +0700 (JAVT) Message-Id: <199906211000.RAA03549@server.jad.net> X-Sender: dibyo@jad.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:03:30 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Dibyo Gahari Subject: How can I get back /usr/bin files ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all ... I have a problem. I use FreeBSD 2.2.1. I have incidentally deleted some /usr/bin/ files, including login, telnet and several other files. So I can't (remotely) login through telnet. But I can ftp to the server (using the same version of FreeBSD). Would you please give some advice on this situation? How can I get back /usr/bin files, or copy from my other FreeBSD server ? Thank you. Your help will be much appreciated. Dibyo Gahari To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 3: 9: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uq.net.au (fox.uq.net.au [203.101.255.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B89114EC9 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mynet@uq.net.au) Received: from uq.net.au (dyn-17-121.dialin.uq.net.au [203.100.17.121]) by uq.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28187; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:08:45 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-ID: <376E0F3F.BA8D248F@uq.net.au> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:09:03 +1000 From: Andrew X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmutter@netwalk.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nt outperforms Linux for web/file server? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apache is also secure, which is an area where IIs is lacking. Also with x86 machines getting so fast and cheap these days if you need more performance you simply get a second machine or faster CPU. Entry level machines are 300-400mhz these days. For the software cost of NT4 server you could buy a second 350mhz web server and install Linux or FreeBSD on it. Also if you really do require the fastest web server then purchase a copy of Zeus for Linux or FreeBSD. It is said to be the fastest web server according to benchmarks and has some great features. I would like to see Zeus/FreeBSD go up against NT4server/IIS but I cant see microsoft agreeing to that comparison anytime soon. Andrew "James A. Mutter" wrote: > :> You're also missing the fact that NT did kick Apache/Linux' ass in the > :> test, and would have done so regardless what kernel patches/Apache tweaks > :> were applied. Fact is, Apache's not a high performance web server .. > : > :Um... What?? > : > :Apache consistantly recieves very high marks on the fact that it is very fast, > :and very high performance. If Apache was not a high performance web server, > :then over half the web sites in the world would not be running it. > > I've never seen anything that suggests Apache is a _fast_ web server. > What Apache is is (1) Free, (2) Reliable, and finally, (3) > Configurable as hell. The above reasons are why most people run > Apache. Speed has nothing to do with it. > > FWIW: I, and I suspect lots of others, would gladly trade speed for > reliability any day. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 3:31:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pleb.cs.uct.ac.za (pleb.cs.uct.ac.za [137.158.132.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBA814C12 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khetan@link.freebsd.os.org.za) X-Disclaimer: Contents of this e-mail are the writer's opinion X-Disclaimer2: and may not be quoted, re-produced or forwarded X-Disclaimer3: (in part or whole) without the author's permission. Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by pleb.cs.uct.ac.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA03037 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:31:25 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from khetan@link.freebsd.os.org.za) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:31:24 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar X-Sender: khetan@pleb.cs.uct.ac.za Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sybase URL Message-ID: X-Mobile: +27 82 9907663 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. Someone posted a URL about getting Sybase ASE to work under FreeBSD. I've searched the mailing lists, and can't find it. Does someone have it handy ? --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khetan@iafrica.com ; khetan@os.org.za http://www.os.org.za/~khetan * Talk/Finger khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za FreeBSD enthusiast * http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 3:36:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3676F14C12 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:36:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with ESMTP id NAA28451; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:36:18 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F277B1F6B; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:36:34 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:36:34 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Greg Lehey Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SiS 5595 detected as 5591? [Was: Re: Concerning Ultra DMA/33 and Chipsets] Message-ID: <19990621133634.A42294@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <3.0.6.32.19990619161324.007ae530@we.mediaone.net> <19990620095751.F1076@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990620095751.F1076@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 09:57:52AM +0930 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 09:57:52AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > We have: > > SiS 5591 Bus-master IDE Controller > > I'm using it, and it works, but some older (> 18 months) revisions of > the chip set have problems. If you buy a new motherboard, you > shouldn't have any problems. One day I tried motherboard with 5595/530 bundle and the 5595 was detected as 5591. Is it right? I see that the chip is 5595 not 5591. Otherwise all was well, DMA and such. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 3:52:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from barney.webace.com.au (unknown [203.25.160.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A299A14CFF for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdqst@webace.com.au) Received: from jason (jason.webace.com.au [203.25.160.112]) by barney.webace.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01872 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:54:29 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from fbsdqst@webace.com.au) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990621105142.00698d30@webace.com.au> X-Sender: fbsdqst@webace.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:51:42 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jason McKay Subject: Stallion Help Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone please help me with this problem, I really need to solve it ASAP and I've tried everything I can think of. >I have a Stallion EasyConnection 8/64-AT (ISA), running under FreeBSD >2.2.5-RELEASE. For a while now I've been running 1 x 16 port RJ45 panel >without problems. Now I'm trying to add a 2nd panel and having allot of >problems. When the system boots, the stli driver reports both panels and 32 >ports. When I run stlload, I get the follow error: > >On-Board ROM Signature reports 16 ports >STALLION: Failed to allocate memory for all devices, devices=17 > >I have tried to reset the board with the 'stlload -R' command, but still no >luck. I would be very greatfull for any help you can provide. Thank You, Jason McKay. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 3:59:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F6C14D14; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:59:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA47248; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:58:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Thomas Good Cc: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Hackers , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Beware of UnixWare 7 References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 21 Jun 1999 12:58:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thomas Good's message of "Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:17:14 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Good writes: > Many conf tasks remain non-trivial as compared to BSD or Linux due > to inexpertise on SCO's end...as the red Sytem Admin Handbook once > stated (Neveth, Snyder et al.) SCO Unix* is `perverse'. Nemeth, Snyder, Seebass, Hein. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 21 4:40:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wfdutil3gw.ml.com (wfdutil3f01.ml.com [206.3.74.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D019214C8C for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com) Received: from ewfdav02.ml.com ([199.201.57.18]) by wfdutil3gw.ml.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MLgwo-4.03) with SMTP id HAA18901 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.23.142.207 by ewfdav02.ml.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:40:22 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: by cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com (8.8.8+Sun/ML55SMX-1.02) id HAA05809; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:40:27 -0400 (EDT) From: mwang@tech.cicg.ml.com (Michael Wang) Message-Id: <199906211140.HAA05809@cicgload-fs1-p.tech.cicg.ml.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: what is the command named "[" in /bin directory? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Thank you very much for the quick response. Solaris [System V] > > treats test, cd, alias, bg, ..., 17 such "command" as ksh built in. > > See > > below. It is interesting to see that BSD treats "[" as a real command. > > > > > > Thanks again. > [ML] They are built in in pdksh, bash, tcsh, etc as well. > > They are not built in in /bin/sh. Not even in Solaris. And > /bin/sh is the standard scripting shell. However, the /bin/sh may be > internally interpreting [ as a call to test (which the FreeBSD /bin/sh > apparently does not do, hence /bin/[). How did you conclude that they are not built in in /bin/sh in Solaris? My conclusion is test and "[" are /bin/sh built-ins. test is a built-in per shell_builtins man page, and [ ... ] is the same as test. There is no "[" command in Solaris. The following is a list of shell_builtins from man page in Solaris: command built into alias csh, ksh bg csh, ksh, sh break csh, ksh, sh case csh, ksh, sh cd csh, ksh, sh chdir csh, sh continue csh, ksh, sh dirs csh echo csh, ksh, sh eval csh, ksh, sh exec csh, ksh, sh