From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 4 10:58:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E6A16A419 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from askbill@conducive.net) Received: from conducive.net (conducive.org [203.194.153.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9459813C447 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from askbill@conducive.net) Received: from cm218-253-81-177.hkcable.com.hk ([218.253.81.177]:60005 helo=pb.local) by conducive.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IdOPo-000MmD-7K for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:58:48 +0000 Message-ID: <4704C767.5060402@conducive.net> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:58:47 -0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?6Z+T5a625qiZIEJpbGwgSGFja2Vy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <4701FE7C.8020200@berkeley.edu> <20071002143044.GL1693@garage.freebsd.pl> <47028989.9080300@berkeley.edu> <4702A6DE.3080403@conducive.net> <86abqzqjrp.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86abqzqjrp.fsf@ds4.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Repeatable kernel panic on -CURRENT using ZFS over SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:58:52 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Bill Hacker writes: >> Short answer - you are overstressing your very marginal hardware. > > You're completely off the mark. Steven is experiencing a well-known bug > in the ata driver. > > DES That may well be, and that part needs coder's attention. But hardware DOES matter. Code fixes can't entirely solve that. ZFS is just too demanding of resources for that rig [1] to usefully support in 512MB of RAM, and 'dumb' controllers do not help. NB: He does have decent power. External housing for the SATA array. Bill [1] Per his dmesg and a google of the various kit reported. Decent PCI slots aside, no longer a match for a current Mac Mini or a Dell laptop w/r RAM, CPU, or FSB speed.