From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 20 21:43:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36024106566B for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 072548FC12 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17921 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2011 21:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2011 21:43:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=jLnoW4WCYgmcbWPgDMNYjOvjqqbaoyHkC0PpWMBHYd2gkkMYGHlKsvjiRHRq8TGHXy0ovf66KW7GyeFFrsLFBNFrLQtzMEG6D2xRGHOqpyYB7XVIcFYC5HesceBNlH6b; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjeXr-0008ER-60 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:43:08 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:26:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:26:27 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110720212627.GB37695@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110717071059.25971662@scorpio> <4E25C70C.8000308@dracoquies.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y7xTucakfITjPcLV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E25C70C.8000308@dracoquies.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:43:09 -0000 --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:03:56PM -0600, Sam George wrote: >=20 > Having come to BSD from Linux less than a month ago, I find it=20 > interesting that the very thing, which Mr. Pottering is encouraging in=20 > Linux development, is what has lead me to search for other options=20 > besides Linux. Of late Linux has been loosing the 'plays well with=20 > others award'. First they cut the .AppleDouble support from the=20 > appletalk drivers, then they refused to let the ReiserFS code into the=20 > kernel, and I suppose their lack of implementing ZFS is possibly same=20 > motivation (given that they _do_ have the man power to port the code). Actually, as I understand it, the reason the Linux community has had trouble integrating ZFS is licensing. That's a major downside of copyleft licensing: most copyleft licenses (GPL, CDDL, et cetera) are mutually incompatible. Because the FreeBSD kernel is BSD licensed, and the Linux kernel is GPLed, it is easier to get ZFS working legally with the BSD kernel in a distributable form than with the Linux kernel. I'm a little iffy on the details, though. I have not looked into the matter in any depth, and may have misstated myself a bit. >=20 > If Kerningham and Richie were focused on staying 'professionally=20 > relevant' UNIX would never have /existed/, and as its decedents, neither= =20 > would have BSD or Linux. Is BSD relevant? Looks like it's /essential/= =20 > given the context of the question. In general, I think you make good points, and like this wrap-up of yours. I just wanted to point out a little-recognized detail of the benefit of BSD Unix systems over GPLed systems, once you (sorta inadvertently) brought up one of the effects of that difference. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk4nSAMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUwEACeNHSQyrT64ebw1x/wezKR15en A7YAoL0uE44siyj1eIYAZjPPMtcfqKUM =jqdP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV--