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Date:      Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:27:39 -0700
From:      Stephen Mcconnell <stephen.mcconnell@avagotech.com>
To:        Royce Williams <royce@tycho.org>, Kai Gallasch <k@free.de>
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: LSI SAS2008 mps driver preferred firmware version
Message-ID:  <afb70061da96c978c8bed3dc78b83a28@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: 5909ac9df17bd324c5068f97ae5918dc@mail.gmail.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Mcconnell [mailto:stephen.mcconnell@avagotech.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:45 PM
> To: 'Royce Williams'; 'Kai Gallasch'
> Cc: 'freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org'; 'freebsd-stable'
> Subject: RE: LSI SAS2008 mps driver preferred firmware version
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> > scsi@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Royce Williams
> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:21 PM
> > To: Kai Gallasch
> > Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; freebsd-stable
> > Subject: Re: LSI SAS2008 mps driver preferred firmware version
> >
> > Firmware should match driver, e.g.:
> >
> > mps0: Firmware: 19.00.00.00, Driver: 19.00.00.00-fbs
>
> I've never heard of any problems when these are mismatched, so I'm not
sure
> why FreeNAS would complain.  Anyway, you should use the latest of both
in
> my opinion.
> The latest FW on the avagotech website is 20.00.04.00.  I have heard
that
> some FreeBSD users have had some problems with the PH19 FW.
>
> Steve McConnell
>
> >
> >
> > Some of this may help -- not yet updated for 10.2, but may still be
useful:
> >
> > http://roycebits.blogspot.com/2015/01/freebsd-lsi-sas9211-8i-hba-
> > firmware.html
> >
> > Royce
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Kai Gallasch <k@free.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > I'm currently building a new ZFS based FreeBSD 10.2 server with a
> > > SAS/SATA HBA SAS9211-8i.
> > >
> > > Is there a preferred or recommended firmware version for Fusion-MPT
> > > SAS-2 2008 chipset based LSI cards like the SAS9211-8i? MPS(4) does
> > > not give any information about this.
> > >
> > > The current version of my SAS9211-8i is:
> > > v7.05.05.00 (2010.05.19), BIOS
> > > 5.00.17.00-IR, FW
> > >
> > >
> > > IR vs. IT firmware:
> > >
> > > Are there any advantages replacing the -IR (integrated raid)
> > > firmware on the LSI controller with an -IT (target mode) version, if
> > > the RAID functionality of the HBA is not used at all?
> > >
> > > There were some claims that running the -IR version in a ZFS JBOD
> > > setup would result in a small performance penalty compared to -IT
> > > and that there was a risk that a controller running the -IR firmware
> > > version could potentially damage ZFS data on a disk by putting RAID
> > > metadata somewhere on the drive, even if not using the RAID feature
> > > of the
> > card!

And also, I asked someone who works on the FW about these IR concerns and
he says the only reason for a performance issue is that the IR FW is a bit
larger and therefore the command queue depth will be smaller due to the
amount of resources available, so it is possible to have a slight
performance degradation in some cases.  Other than that, once it is
determined that there are no IR drives the FW acts just like IT. AND there
is no data corruption issue for ZFS disks.  If there is, that would be bad
and a high priority defect would need to be filed :)  If there are no IR
volumes, the FW works just like IT so there would be no reason to write
metadata to a non-IR disk.  Even if there was a separate IR volume, the
ZFS disk would not be written with metadata because it's not part of an IR
volume.

Steve

> > >
> > > I'd appreciate it if someone could shed some light on this.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kai.
> > >
> > > --
> > > PGP-KeyID = 0x70654D7C4FB1F588
> > > One day a lemming will fly..
> > >
> > >
> > >
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