From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Feb 7 6:55: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A306737B401 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-97.apple.com [17.250.248.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361D643F93 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:55:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lomion@mac.com) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com (asmtp02-qfe3 [10.13.10.66]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h17Et2Fw007561 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mac.com ([67.98.154.9]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H9Y1FP00.S9D; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:55:01 -0800 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:54:59 -0500 Subject: Re: GGI (was: Project Status) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=fixed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: "Pedro F. Giffuni" , To: Narvi From: Larry Sica In-Reply-To: <20030206170542.T43637-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee> Message-Id: <20D3115E-3AAC-11D7-8AC2-000393A335A2@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Rfc2646-Fix: 1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:33 AM, Narvi wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Larry Sica wrote: > >> >> This is probably the most important aspect of any desktop. A coherent >> system. A desktop needs consistency, ease of use and applications. >> >> Sometime too much choice is just as bad, or worse, than no choice at >> all. I want to be able to setup a system that will look and feel the >> same for 99% of cases. I want to be able to use quicken, or word, or >> that cool photo app. I want my itunes, my instant messenger. That is >> what people say. Most don't have the time or care to get deeply >> involved in their computer, they want it to be just another electronic >> device they use, like a vcr, or a tv. >> >> So the question becomes, does FreeBSD as a whole want to target this >> user audience? Is there the collective will to make that a reality? >> If the answer is no, I would think resources are best directed >> elsewhere perhaps? >> > > There is no point in dragging - or trying to drag - FreeBSD as a whole > into this. Its not useful and furthermore not the way things get done. > They way to get things done is: > > * find similarily minded people who want to see it happen > Perhaps, but there also needs to be some level of commitment at the core level. And I don't just mean core@, i mean a willingness overall to have things move in that direction on some level. > * *DECIDE* (and later keep to the decision) as to what exactly > your target audience is > Well that is a given, trying to please everyone all of the time is impossible. > * and then you just deal with the needed decisions that come from > the first two parts to end up with a desktop package > This is not so simple. There are more factors than just what someone likes to use. What I like or you like may be horrible for the target audience. You have to worry about maintainability among other things. Compatability, future compatability, etc etc... > But really its a huge amount of work and includes many quite quirky > decisions even when starting for a well-known base like GNOME/KDE > (alphabetical ordering). > Yes, also when using a third party base you lose some control. Since now you have to compensate for their packages and quirks and bugs and localizations. - --Larry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 (Build 349) Beta iQA/AwUBPkPIxeeV8VtPCL3dEQJT5gCfdt+kBegeiQSjeniirqZY1hb1RC0AnjNP 6PivUtGuPbxdrOmbQsNENsu9 =AcnM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message