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Date:      Fri, 8 May 2020 06:03:04 -0400
From:      Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux
Message-ID:  <20200508060304.00007527@seibercom.net>
In-Reply-To: <b0eb93c4-c426-08a0-2290-d688ecd3ed16@suszko.eu>
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On Fri, 8 May 2020 00:15:12 +0200, Maciej Suszko commented:
>On 5/7/20 2:24 PM, Jerry wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 May 2020 14:43:46 +0300, Alexandr Krivulya commented: =20
>>> 06.05.20 10:09, Maciej Suszko =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: =20
>>>> Just adding freebsd-questions list - anyone here who tried to run
>>>> or use Microsoft Teams web/app ?
>>>>
>>>> On 5/5/20 2:52 PM, Maciej Suszko wrote:   =20
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering if anyone tried to use Microsoft Temas either web
>>>>> version or desktop app... Web version does work but making
>>>>> audio/video call isn't officialy suppported, so you need to spoof
>>>>> user-agent to make it partially working - but from time to time MS
>>>>> change something and it just stop working. In the past weeks I was
>>>>> able to make audio calls, now it's not possible (neither Firefox
>>>>> nor Chrome)
>>>>>
>>>>> I tested my webcam and mic on https://www.onlinemictest.com/ and
>>>>> it's all working, so problematic is the web application from MS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Desktop application - here are two options, one for Linux, one for
>>>>> Windows. I tried to run the Linux version using linuxulator,
>>>>> brandelf-ing all the binaries but with no success...
>>>>>
>>>>> #v+
>>>>> tlhscd@arsenic:/tmp/teams/share/teams $ ./teams
>>>>> Trace/BPT trap (core dumped)
>>>>> #v-
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you think - are there any chances to make the desktop app
>>>>> working in out FreeBSD desktops?--   =20
>>>
>>> Yesterday I tried to call my colleague via Microsoft Teams web-app=20
>>> (latest Firefox on CURRENT, spoofed User-Agent). Yes, there is no
>>> audio and video at all in both directions.
>>>
>>> If I run desktop version with linux strace and it crashes. I think
>>> it because of unimplemented cgroups calls. Both Microsoft Teams and
>>> Skype are Electron applications, that tries to run chromium in
>>> isolated environment. =20
>>  <Truncated by me>
>>=20
>> There is information on
>> <https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/get-clients>; that
>> should assist you. It clearly states that "FIREFOX" is NOT SUPPORTED.
>> "Spoofing" a user agent is a waste of time. "You cannot make a silk
>> purse out of a sow's ear." Now, Google Chrome, the latest version
>> plus two previous versions are FULLY SUPPORTED. Install that and
>> then see what happens. =20
>
>One thing is written on the page, the other is real... I use current
>www/chromium and I can't confirm that
>
>#v+
>tlhscd@arsenic:~ $ chrome --version
>Chromium 81.0.4044.129
>#v-
>
>Someone can tell chromium !=3D Chrome - that's true, but as far as I
>know, there is no official Google Chrome for FreeBSD.
>
>> By the way, I made a suggestion on the TEAMS page that FreeBSD should
>> be supported since they support Linux. I have already received a
>> couple of "Thumbs UP" responses. =20
>
>Thanks, but I'm realistic - that's similar situation to Widevine -
>there are still no binaries for FreeBSD-based browsers... watching
>Netflix on FreeBSD - only on virtualbox or bhyve machine.

Peron ally, I wouldn't use wine if you paid me. I have always believed
in using the best tool for the job, however. As with so many other
applications, I have friends who run MS in a VM and have excellent
results. It is relatively easy to set up on your PC. Rather than waste
all the time and effort you have on getting MS Teams to work with
FreeBSD, why not just install your favorite VM, throw a copy of Win 10
on it and enjoy MS Teams with out all the headaches. Now you would have
more time to play golf, go fishing or whatever sport or entertainment
you like.

By the way, have you tried reporting your problem to Microsoft? There
should be a link to their 'feedback' portal for reporting problems
somewhere in the application.

Life is too short to spend it trying to reinvent the wheel.

--=20
Jerry



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