From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 19:07:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310631065677 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5C58FC16 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so166908ugs.39 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:07:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YShe/YBgkI+BSRD7qAJewIDxZawLz2KP03i7j0aamCg=; b=CAdM+Tvuum95bQuZ+Iao+cAWqPL4siebWntCNmhMXtoGssHEWxmfQ5BgOfTYCmSXAn 4rGYd6rcZoqwzSgPoYlkoIUO6/09pJHSD5sP4XmbMUwcUJ5Qz6X1BKB1fS5fzQ6N7LX2 EE3ZVEBc+XBIs531osl1LOGP2jHYyNKT27Mtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mmxeyKjjhpcSJVmyWvcehGfk7WWlAOuvcgxzLlUrMAlb1p1i1y/lUqHlmqChYIjZ5W hDqSjDUiblUGDXXuxrlCeN+f9SDdeTmXZAVrmyL3J+M+Eti9Ni0qjg8CQ0S7pZK2saWJ EezouOJwSkOqwvQFlnJuAmjGcp6QoGzp42sqc= Received: by 10.67.119.8 with SMTP id w8mr2142143ugm.3.1229368027361; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4376521.home.otenet.gr [79.130.55.185]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a1sm711899ugf.50.2008.12.15.11.07.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:07:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4946AAD6.6050300@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:07:02 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes References: <1226494693.1809.10.camel@localhost> <491B4F01.9020403@gmail.com> <2a7894eb0811121605k1310bf8avf7a69363fc504905@mail.gmail.com> <20081112200755.66c52a48.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <491C39E7.7040609@gmail.com> <20081113185333.25a73ebf.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <2a7894eb0812132146w42722ce5n809cd5d0a9c451eb@mail.gmail.com> <20081214185058.48a7c2c2.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <2a7894eb0812141832u20af4821h121a520fab746c7c@mail.gmail.com> <20081215062858.6c76fb33.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20081215134919.51a88d90.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20081215134919.51a88d90.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, murray@stokely.org Subject: Re: Preface need update. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:07:09 -0000 Tom Rhodes wrote: >> >> Works for me. Let me work over a patch today (I should have >> enough time) and get it out. :) >> > > This patch merges both chapters in a way I thought worked out > best. Could probably use a bit of text in the intro but I'm > not 100% sure. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~trhodes/patches/cutting-edge.diff > > Though I do remember why I started another chapter though, > primarily because cutting-edge came off to me as "using CURRENT > and/or test versions" rather than stable with bug fixes. :) > > Thanks, > > If these chapters are merged, I think we will have to rethink the "The Cutting Edge" title. The title is by itself intimidating for the beginning-intermediate user who is already convinced it is best for him to use "RELEASE" until he is comfortable with the system. And using freebsd-update is essential (and a rather easy task) at any user level. How about changing the chapter to something like "Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD"? The first sections could deal with security updates and minor / major version upgrades using freebsd-update. Later sections could deal with -STABLE and -CURRENT It would probably need more than a few rewrites and reorganization though