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Date:      Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:53:38 -0500
From:      Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, scottl@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc
Message-ID:  <p06200705bdd057157961@[128.113.24.47]>
In-Reply-To: <20041128.200206.114580739.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org> <20041128.194040.04241039.imp@bsdimp.com>	<41AA904F.708@freebsd.org> <20041128.200206.114580739.imp@bsdimp.com>

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At 8:02 PM -0700 11/28/04, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>In message: <41AA904F.708@freebsd.org>
>             Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org> writes:
>: M. Warner Losh wrote:
>: > In message: <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org>
>: >             Scott Long <scottl@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>: > : For those who think that ease-of-use is important, please
>: > : accept my apologies.
>: >
>: > One could easily have a 'safeboot' command, which would disable
>: > all the things that the safe boot menu item used to do.
>: >
>: > Warner
>:
>: safeboot isn't the same as 'disable acpi'.  It was actually quite
>: useful to disable ACPI but still leave ATA-DMA and SMP enabled.
>
>Agreed.  A few wrappers would go a long way is all I'm saying..

A few wrappers would, in my opinion, be irrelevant.  By the time
someone tracks down what wrapper to type in, they might as well track
down what full-blown commands to type in.  The menu was an advantage
when a user just installed some new kernel, and now their machine is
having problems.  That is not a good time to go reading web or man
pages to try to figure out what magic words *might* be worth typing in.
I admit that I would prefer a smaller (quicker-to-display) menu, but
completely removing the menu seems (to me) to be a step backwards.

However, I do notice that few people have objected to the menu being
removed, so I guess I'll just leave the topic alone.  But I will note
that most users probably won't realize this change has even happened
until their next clean-install of some future release...

-- 
Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad@freebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih@rpi.edu



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