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Date:      Wed, 07 Feb 2001 07:45:13 -0600
From:      David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
To:        Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc:        dan@langille.org, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: laptops - perhaps DELL 
Message-ID:  <200102071345.f17DjDN22353@grumpy.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>  of "Wed, 07 Feb 2001 04:16:18 %2B0100." <v04220800b6a66ce5fe39@[172.17.1.121]> 

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Brad Knowles writes:
> At 7:27 PM -0600 2001/2/6, David Kelly wrote:
> 
> >  Expect MacOS X will be the next best thing to Genuine BSD.
> 
> 	It should be pretty good.  IMO, it's the last chance for Apple to 
> deliver on a "real" OS with pre-emptive multi-tasking, multi-user, 
> protected memory, etc... features but with the kind of ease-of-use 
> that you expect from a Macintosh.

The public beta spent too many cycles drawing the pretty Aqua GUI. After
about 5 minutes of "cool!" the transparent layering turned to "how can I 
turn it off?"

Still the underlying guts are real Un*x so one way or another 
traditional Unix apps will be able to run side by side with traditional 
Mac and Modern Mac.

> 	Now, I know that I'll have to get VirtualPC or RealPC for this 
> thing, for the few programs I need to run that don't have Mac 
> equivalents -- does anyone know how well they perform on a G4/500 
> class machine, relative to actual x86-based hardware of various 
> speeds?

Depends. Disk and network I/O are something near full Mac rates. Gut 
feel is other things are something better than 1:4 CPU clock cycle 
ratio. I run Microchip's MPLAB PIC stuff on a 210 MHz PPC 604e. Its 
faster than getting up and stiting in front of the PC.  :-)

Then again MPLAB is a 16 bit Win3.1 wrapper on DOS executables. Had to 
bump their default 30 second timer as lately my code has grown so that 
it takes nearly 60 seconds to assemble (1400 lines). Were I to actually 
measure the difference between a P-II 450 and the 604e 210 expect it 
would be the worst case example.

Bought the VPC 4.0 upgrade for my new gigabit G4-400 but have not moved
onto it yet. Still waiting on the TiBook.



--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net
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