From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 27 18:35:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8B810656D5 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7CF8FC2B for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1099625ewy.43 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:35:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=8ONtDeY+djhR8wc/Wom3Yz5eUxZ311vL0eWRfv/2bFE=; b=bLJ81aOma+kdx+YO9m5JWYHHpiHa1KfU2hMDjiN1lNrURNE2gDSkYEhf1WgYs+CqbA CEr0A996qgetg80LXwqKFV+vTmUwO+govpY/ExCu4BofpQYEJ9HOl0EzlA7pkgAiyySt phvL9tT0+Qe7oj7PKTE7/iSqyk2PN6LYZsrY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=CczWBH0J9yJrWB6WrQDAjhfeDdVEA/xxhSaUdhevPSjvyD6PFQUVGrebQT7Tfdb/SB /oPfuLCdrpeLYHnMWkfoqQc7yEh3qo8oZco+PCldDD4VESgqIfTdxw+bzRlhEr6CiB84 5smMKtZIWLg+LOCg1WIremEq0XbCjdqwjst+w= Received: by 10.216.47.204 with SMTP id t54mr946114web.75.1238178923179; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm2640026gve.29.2009.03.27.11.35.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49CD1C68.2060508@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:35:20 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090325034317.160b149d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090325041118.5c99710a.freebsd@edvax.de> <49C9A572.3070006@gwi.net> <20090325045911.56efaff6.freebsd@edvax.de> <49CC1230.8060005@onetel.com> <20090327115040.GA88708@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090327083131.59204048@scorpio> <20090327144533.GA89056@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: installing freebsd on windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:35:26 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > >> I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use >> to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a >> bonus too. >> >> > > I see the sense in C:\Users > I see the sense in C:\Documents and Settings > I see the sense in C:\WINDOWS > I see the sense in using CMD.exe -- after all, the dos box has been around > forever > Not trying to start, continue, or add fuel to a flamewar or whatever, but you can expand on how you can make sense of C:\Users and C:\Documents and Settings existing at the same time? Shouldn't Users(the equiv of /home basically) contain therein all Documents and Settings. My idea would be to put settings in logically named hidden files preceded by a '.' ;) The new windows method is as irksome and confusing as the old method. Also FYI, there is no comparison between ping /? and man ping. Man pages offer a completely different level of insight into a command, and it is exponentially more efficient than any windows method to date. Finally trying to run your computer without documentation is like trying to run your car with an owners manual. Ever try to find the fuel cutoff switch on a 1987 Ford EXP? Trust me, it goes a lot faster with the manual and that's why such things are standard--consumers expect it. Also please note I do firmly believe there is a place in this world for windows. That some people would expect a single mother working as a nurse to come home take care of the kids, and be able to make flash 9 work so she can partake in other common activities on the internet, or resolve dependency issues(on the computer) seems more than a bit asinine to me. However the place for windows is not on my desktop except for work which mainly serves as a repository for putty sessions. Even that limited use will hopefully come to an end soon. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610