From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 00:02:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04767 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04762 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:02:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA05373; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:32:30 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA00838; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:32:29 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981129183229.J456@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:32:29 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Andrew Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/lib/crt0.o & freebsd 3.0-release References: <19981129123738.V6182@freebie.lemis.com> <19981128193733.A4176@apogee.whack.org> <19981129141749.D6182@freebie.lemis.com> <19981128200127.A4245@apogee.whack.org> <19981129143645.E6182@freebie.lemis.com> <19981128201153.A4353@apogee.whack.org> <19981129144400.G6182@freebie.lemis.com> <19981128204312.B4353@apogee.whack.org> <19981129155159.I6182@freebie.lemis.com> <19981128235233.A6203@apogee.whack.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19981128235233.A6203@apogee.whack.org>; from Andrew on Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 11:52:33PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 28 November 1998 at 23:52:33 -0800, Andrew wrote: > Greg, > > Sorry... on my machine... no go... > > # make install > ===> gcc-2.8.1 is broken for ELF: /usr/lib/aout/crt0.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized. > # Ah. I was half fearing that. I tried on my elf machine, but the environment wasn't set up for it. You could try building an a.out version, or continue with method (2). If you get it working, people will be grateful for ever, or at least an hour or two. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 00:45:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07230 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Raccoon.ChipChat.com (Raccoon.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07218 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from localhost (mrc@localhost) by Raccoon.ChipChat.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08450 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:45:17 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:45:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Marty Cawthon To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Local package initialization Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello BSDaemons, When Booting FreeBSD several packages are initialized (started). Example: ------- starting standard daemons: inetd cron sendmail Initial rc.i386 initialization (syscons: font8x16... etc) ->Local packaging initialization: apache Canna squid <- starting local daemons: httpd ------- I believe that 'local startups' are usually placed in "rc.local". I examined 'rc.local' and 'rc.conf' and do not find a reference to the 'Canna' or 'squid' servers. Q: Which file contains the initialization code for these servers? Marty Cawthon ChipChat Dearborn, Michigan USA (now visiting Japan) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 00:54:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07691 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:54:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oz.phear.net (slwag2p02.ozemail.com.au [203.108.157.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07674 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:53:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@phrantic.phear.net) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by oz.phear.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA18943; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:53:57 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:53:57 +1100 (EST) From: Jim Mock To: Marty Cawthon cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Local package initialization In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Marty Cawthon wrote: [snip] > I believe that 'local startups' are usually placed in "rc.local". > I examined 'rc.local' and 'rc.conf' and do not find a reference to > the 'Canna' or 'squid' servers. > > Q: Which file contains the initialization code for these servers? > Take a look in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Some daemons start from shell scripts in that directory. Jim : Jim Mock | [jim@phrantic.phear.net] : : Phear Networks | web: http://www.phear.net/ : : A franchise of Triax, Inc. | ----------------------------- : : Web Site Design & Hosting | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve : : Wagga Wagga, NSW Australia | http://www.freebsd.org/ : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 00:54:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07721 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.sni-usa.com (firewall.sni-usa.com [140.231.44.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA07716 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:54:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bein@pyramid.com) Received: from [136.157.128.105] by firewall.sni-usa.com via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 29 Nov 1998 08:35:01 UT Received: from chesed.mass.pyramid.com (chesed.mass.pyramid.com [136.157.128.108]) by buddha.mass.pyramid.com (8.8.5/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway) id DAA05403; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 03:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pyramid.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chesed.mass.pyramid.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA00319 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 03:51:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36610B2F.22BB18CC@pyramid.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 03:51:59 -0500 From: David Bein Organization: Siemens ICP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Freebsd and Solaris 2.x on x86 platforms ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HI ... Has anyone out there ever succeeded in sharing a single disk (using the FDISK facility) with Solaris on one partition and FreeBSD on the other? If so, I'd like to hear from you. Also, the same question, but instead substitute NT 4.0 for Solaris 2.x on x86. Thanks ... --David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 02:44:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13057 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 02:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA13052 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 02:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 10531 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Nov 1998 10:44:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19981129124434.A9959@rucus.ru.ac.za> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:44:34 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Malartre , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird problem with "talk" about an "Unknown host". Both user are logged on the same machine! References: <3660A1F0.A1C246F4@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3660A1F0.A1C246F4@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 08:22:56PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat 1998-11-28 (20:22), Malartre wrote: > http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/talk.html > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD f00f.org 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 21 > 03:37:08 EST 1998 root@f00f.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/F00F i386 > $ who am I > toto ttyv0 28 nov 20:01 > $ who > toto ttyv0 28 nov 20:01 > elvis ttyv9 28 nov 20:04 > $ talk elvis ttyv9 > talk: f00f.org: Unknown host > > toto try to "talk" with elvis, but the system (whose name is f00f.org) > try to find the host "f00f.org". But f00f.org is the system's name... > Both user did "mesg y". > > What's wrong? Just put f00f.org into your /etc/hosts, and change the order of bind, then hosts to hosts, then bind, in your host.conf. Putting f00f.org to 127.0.0.1 should be ok, but if it has a permanent network card and IP address, put it to that IP address. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 03:58:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20946 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 03:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from toplink4.toplink.net (toplink4.toplink.net [195.2.171.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20941 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 03:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danielh@privat.toplink.de) Received: from abyssworld.de (dip-043.hbg.dinx.de [195.2.169.43]) by toplink4.toplink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA13976 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:06:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3661370D.41C67EA6@privat.toplink.de> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:59:09 +0100 From: Daniel Haischt Organization: AbyssSoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: simple linkdown script Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HIYA I want to do a simple linkdown script for my ppp connection. Can anybody tell me why the script below wont work? #!/bin/sh # # Simple linkdown script for ppp # kill 'cat /var/run/tun0.pid' If i just type cat /var/run/tun0.pid it shows me a valid PID, but if I type kill 'cat /var/run/tun0.pid' or if I run the script above I'll allways get the following err: kill: Arguments should be jobs or process id's Any help would be appreciated. Best Regards Daniel Haischt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 04:01:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21655 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:01:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prometheus.smlt.com (prometheus.smlt.com [195.172.80.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA21641; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:01:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from quintin@smlt.com) Received: from orion.smlt.com (orion.smlt.com [195.172.80.149]) by prometheus.smlt.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA25157; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:02:07 GMT Received: from localhost (quintin@localhost) by orion.smlt.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA02708; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:33:46 GMT Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:33:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Quintin Oliver To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Samba caues dialups. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I recently installed Samba 1.9.18.8 on my FreeBSD 2.2.7 system at home, I have two other Win95 workstations that uses FreeBSD for the surfing, etc.. The problem: Whenever a Win95 client connects to Samba it causes UserPPP to dialup and connect to the internet, I did a `tcpdump' and it looking for a domain ie the dialup is caused by domain lookups. I don't understand why Samba is doing this? the services I'm running: * Sendmail 8.8.8 * Named * UserPPP * Samba * Pop3 server At first I thought that when the win95 client was connecting it was trying to preform a lookup for the remotes IP address, well, the name server hosts the forward and reverse for my local domain for example: The FreeBSD machine is called `home.smlt.com' The Win95 clients fall under `ws1.home.smlt.com' and `ws2.home.smlt.com' And comments/suggestions would be great. Thanks, Quintin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 04:03:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22157 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:03:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22152 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA95017; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:03:09 GMT Message-ID: <366137FD.A8BCB4D7@tdx.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:03:09 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Haischt CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple linkdown script References: <3661370D.41C67EA6@privat.toplink.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel Haischt wrote: > > HIYA > > I want to do a simple linkdown script for my ppp connection. > > Can anybody tell me why the script below wont work? > > #!/bin/sh > # > # Simple linkdown script for ppp > # > kill 'cat /var/run/tun0.pid' > > If i just type cat /var/run/tun0.pid it shows me a valid PID, > but if I type kill 'cat /var/run/tun0.pid' or if I run the script above > I'll allways get the following err: > > kill: Arguments should be jobs or process id's Hi, I don't know too much about ppp - but isn't that script called after the link has been taken 'down', i.e. /var/run/tun0.pid is going to be non existant / emtpy? Try putting an: echo `cat /var/run/tun0.pid` >/tmp/test_ppp.pid Before it... Also make sure your using the right single quotes - you have the wrong one's in your original mail... (should both be ` not ') Regards, Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 04:20:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24643 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.orc.ru (mars.nc.orc.ru [212.48.128.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA24637 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:20:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from agbad@orc.ru) Received: (qmail 2691 invoked from network); 29 Nov 1998 12:20:04 -0000 Received: from 50.m9-3.dialup.orc.ru (HELO localhost) (212.48.130.50) by mars.nc.orc.ru with SMTP; 29 Nov 1998 12:20:04 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be1b93$65c36800$0100007f@orc.ru> From: "á.ç.âÁÄÅÑÎ" To: Subject: Question Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:22:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How I can uncompress the file with suffix '.bz2'? Thank You. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 05:23:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29504 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 05:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bar.pilsnet.sunet.se (bar.pilsnet.sunet.se [192.36.125.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29496 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 05:23:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufberg@sunet.se) Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by bar.pilsnet.sunet.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09800; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:22:58 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:22:58 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Dufberg To: Quintin Oliver cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samba caues dialups. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Quintin Oliver wrote: > Whenever a Win95 client connects to Samba it causes UserPPP to dialup and > connect to the internet, I did a `tcpdump' and it looking for a domain ie > the dialup is caused by domain lookups. (...) > At first I thought that when the win95 client was connecting it was trying > to preform a lookup for the remotes IP address, well, the name server > hosts the forward and reverse for my local domain for example: > > The FreeBSD machine is called `home.smlt.com' > The Win95 clients fall under `ws1.home.smlt.com' and `ws2.home.smlt.com' 1. Make sure that "hosts" is before "bind" in /etc/host.conf 2. Make sure that every host on the local network is refered to in /etc/hosts in every possible form, e.g.: 10.1.2.1 ws1.home.smlt.com. ws1.home.smlt.com ws1 10.1.2.2 ws2.home.smlt.com. ws2.home.smlt.com ws2 3. Make sure that "domain" is correct in /etc/resolv.conf. It should probably be domain home.smlt.com in your case. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg KTHNOC, KTH, S-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden Telefon/Phone: +46-8+790 83 46 Fax: +46-8-10 25 10 Email: dufberg@sunet.se SUNET:s www-katalog: http://www.sunet.se/sweden/main-sv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 06:04:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01962 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:04:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prometheus.smlt.com (prometheus.smlt.com [195.172.80.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01957 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:04:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from quintin@smlt.com) Received: from orion.smlt.com (orion.smlt.com [195.172.80.149]) by prometheus.smlt.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA25207; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:05:00 GMT Received: from localhost (quintin@localhost) by orion.smlt.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02827; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:36:42 GMT Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:36:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Quintin Oliver To: Mats Dufberg cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samba caues dialups. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Mats Dufberg wrote: [....] > > The FreeBSD machine is called `home.smlt.com' > > The Win95 clients fall under `ws1.home.smlt.com' and `ws2.home.smlt.com' > > 1. Make sure that "hosts" is before "bind" in /etc/host.conf Yup - did that, same affect. > 2. Make sure that every host on the local network is refered to in > /etc/hosts in every possible form, e.g.: > > 10.1.2.1 ws1.home.smlt.com. ws1.home.smlt.com ws1 > 10.1.2.2 ws2.home.smlt.com. ws2.home.smlt.com ws2 Ok :-) > 3. Make sure that "domain" is correct in /etc/resolv.conf. It should > probably be > domain home.smlt.com > in your case. Ok I'll give it a try, Many Thanks, Quintin. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mats Dufberg > KTHNOC, KTH, S-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden > Telefon/Phone: +46-8+790 83 46 Fax: +46-8-10 25 10 > Email: dufberg@sunet.se > SUNET:s www-katalog: http://www.sunet.se/sweden/main-sv.html > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 06:10:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02784 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:10:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from qatar.net.qa (qatar.net.qa [194.133.33.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02775 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:10:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sodah@qatar.net.qa) Received: from qatar.net.qa (ddfd.qatar.net.qa [194.133.35.143]) by qatar.net.qa (8.8.8/Internet-Qatar) with ESMTP id RAA13195; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:09:38 +0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <3DEA508F.A018735A@qatar.net.qa> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:10:23 +0300 From: Fadi Sodah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alissa bader , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installation problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG alissa bader wrote: > I get a "fatal trap 12: page > fault in kernel mode" message and then the machine reboots. Sometimes it > will start up with from the hd. Sometimes it will only start up from the > floppy. Sometimes the system, upon reboot, will ask me for the shell and > then it will hang. You have to set the right BIOS Geometry C/H/S (Cyls/Heads/Sectors) in the FDISK Partition Editor so check out the BIOS Geometry of your Harddisk C/H/S Pons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 06:39:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05427 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:39:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05413 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:39:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from ben by scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 2.054 #3) id 0zk7FV-0003xC-00; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:50:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:50:53 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: ".." Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <19981129135053.B6428@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <000501be1b93$65c36800$0100007f@orc.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <000501be1b93$65c36800$0100007f@orc.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/0.94.17i (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG .. wrote: > How I can uncompress the file with suffix '.bz2'? Thank You. Check the bzip and bzip2 ports under /usr/ports/archivers, these may help you. -- Ben Smithurst ben@scientia.demon.co.uk send a blank message to ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 06:39:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05688 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:39:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05678 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 20407 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Nov 1998 14:39:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19981129163934.A20229@rucus.ru.ac.za> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:39:34 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E1=2E=E7=2E=E2=C1=C4=C5=D1=CE?= , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question References: <000501be1b93$65c36800$0100007f@orc.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C000501be1b93$65c36800$0100007f=40orc=2Eru=3E=3B_from_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E1=2E=E7=2E=E2=C1=C4=C5=D1=CE_on_Sun=2C_Nov_29=2C_1998_a?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?t_03:22:14PM_+0300?= Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun 1998-11-29 (15:22), á.ç.âÁÄÅÑÎ wrote: > How I can uncompress the file with suffix '.bz2'? Thank You. Install the bzip2 port in archivers/bzip2. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 06:40:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05804 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:40:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05791 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:40:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from ben by scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 2.054 #3) id 0zk7EX-0003rX-00; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:49:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:49:52 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: Karl Pielorz Cc: Daniel Haischt , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple linkdown script Message-ID: <19981129134952.A6428@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3661370D.41C67EA6@privat.toplink.de> <366137FD.A8BCB4D7@tdx.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <366137FD.A8BCB4D7@tdx.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/0.94.17i (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karl Pielorz wrote: > Hi, I don't know too much about ppp - but isn't that script called after the > link has been taken 'down', i.e. /var/run/tun0.pid is going to be non existant > / emtpy? No, at least, I don't think so. PPP still has the tun device active even when the link is down. (This is why I can still connect to my IP address, 212.228.14.13, when not connected to the internet.) -- Ben Smithurst ben@scientia.demon.co.uk send a blank message to ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 08:10:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10690 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:10:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from max.phys.uu.nl (max.phys.uu.nl [131.211.32.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10685 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:10:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.R.Flobbe@phys.uu.nl) Received: from ruunat.phys.uu.nl (ruunat.phys.uu.nl [131.211.32.69]) by max.phys.uu.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7/hjm) with ESMTP id RAA02904 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:10:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (flobbe@localhost) by ruunat.phys.uu.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA25736 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:10:29 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: ruunat.phys.uu.nl: flobbe owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:10:29 +0100 (MET) From: Sander Flobbe To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please Recommend Hardware In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981126125306.0068965c@silk.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Eddie Lawhead wrote: > Could you please suggest some decent hardware for my new web server? My > budget will be approx $3000 Cnd. I do not need a video card (have one) or > sound. I will need a decent Network Card. will 128M RAM be good or should > I go higher...much higher. I will only run HTTPD FTD SSH. Check out: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook149.html You do not really need a fast cpu for an average webserver, but why bother if you can spend $3000? :-) You should really go for SCSI disks as those are more reliable. Two UW-SCSI 4,3 Gb IBM's will do... S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 08:18:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11125 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:18:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11111 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:18:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02585 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:20:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Message-ID: <19981129102025.A2564@futuresouth.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:20:25 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: chat script for dialing pppd Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199811280351.VAA00931@n4hhe.ampr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199811280351.VAA00931@n4hhe.ampr.org>; from David Kelly on Fri, Nov 27, 1998 at 09:51:10PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (David Kelly, dkelly@HiWAAY.net) once wrote... > But now my chat script for dialing pppd broke. > > Now have it working well enough to dial out but for some reason it > takes 19 seconds before the modem dials. Confirmed with ps that chat is > rnning Me too...with 3.0-19981123-SNAP and 3.0-CURRENT kernel of 11/28. I've tried chat scripts as simple as "'' atz" and it still delays. Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 09:35:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16733 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:35:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abc.xyz.net (froggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net [208.151.119.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16728 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:35:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from groggy@iname.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abc.xyz.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01257 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:37:32 -0900 (AKST) (envelope-from groggy@iname.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:37:29 -0900 (AKST) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@abc.xyz.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: login exits, but user doesn't Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 2.2.7 i posted this a few weeks ago, but didn't get any response. i don't know if this is a known bug, or not a bug at all. the problem is that after logging (as root) to a user account, and then exiting, the user still remains active - replacing the user that su'd to root. the problem changes slightly when running "script". ------------------------------------------ recorded with "script" ... ------------------------------------------ Script started on Sun Nov 29 08:17:22 1998 # w 8:17AM up 3 days, 1:11, 2 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.04, 0.05 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT ggg c07 - 5:44AM - /usr/sbin/ppp -direct ttyc07 aaa p0 ttyc07.humpty 8:17AM - script # login ddd Password: Last login: Sun Nov 29 08:16:40 on ttyp0 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. /etc/profile/home/ddd/.profile $ ^D # w 8:17AM up 3 days, 1:11, 3 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.04, 0.05 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT ggg c07 - 5:44AM - /usr/sbin/ppp -direct ttyc07 aaa p0 ttyc07.humpty 8:17AM - script ddd p1 - 8:17AM - w # ^D Script done on Sun Nov 29 08:17:57 1998 --------------------------------------- without running script ... --------------------------------------- # w 8:17AM up 3 days, 1:11, 2 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.04, 0.05 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT ggg c07 - 5:44AM - /usr/sbin/ppp -direct ttyc07 aaa p0 ttyc07.humpty 8:17AM - w # login ddd Password: Last login: Sun Nov 29 08:16:40 on ttyp0 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. /etc/profile/home/ddd/.profile $ ^D # w 8:17AM up 3 days, 1:11, 3 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.04, 0.05 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT ggg c07 - 5:44AM - /usr/sbin/ppp -direct ttyc07 ddd p0 - 8:17AM - w To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:06:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18981 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:06:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18976 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:06:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mlduke@newman.concentric.net) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.184.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id NAA13593; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:06:17 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts001d42.mer-id.concentric.net (ts001d42.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.54]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA00263; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:06:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:06:12 -0700 (MST) From: ML Duke X-Sender: mlduke@cyberhighway.net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Spreadsheet? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In preparation for making a bid for a software installation/upgrade monitoring and reporting contract, I went to both ports and the cdrom.com archives looking for a package such as a spreadsheet that can track tasks, times, behind schedule (which is what it will be) and etc.. Any suggestions?? A private reply would be appreciated as I'm not currently subscribed. ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:07:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19103 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19096 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thallgren@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19981129180623.3402.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [195.100.221.2] by send101.yahoomail.com; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:06:23 PST Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:06:23 -0800 (PST) From: Tommy Hallgren Subject: Re: calcru: negative time?? What's this? To: jmutter@netwalk.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi James! This Saturday I upgraded my XFree to 3.3.3 and made world. After reboot, I also got loads of calcru messages. My setup: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE P200MMX 64MB RAM Diamond FireGL 1000 Pro (same as you) 2 IDE drives 1 IDE/ATAPI CDROM When I change back to XFCom_3DLabs(from SuSE) everything works just fine. I think we can blame XF86_3DLabs for this bug. (Please CC any comments to me, I'm not on this list) Regards, Tommy _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:12:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19556 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com (ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com [205.152.173.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19541 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:11:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ck@ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com) Received: (from ck@localhost) by ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA22622 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:11:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981129131147.H9081@ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:11:47 -0500 From: Christian Kuhtz To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: working StarOffice? Anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: I am running 3.0-CURRENT w/ linux_lib2.6 and was trying to get StarOffice 5.0 to install and setup just blows up with a core dump. Obviously stack traces aren't much help.. Is anyone aware of a way to make this (or any other older version of StarOffice) work? Help! Does anyone know where I can get a working version of StarOffice? :^) Cheers, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:15:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19793 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:15:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19787 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA14257; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:14:39 +0100 Message-ID: <36618F0E.8A9264BC@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:14:38 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Ostrovsky CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xfree86 3.3.3 installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dennis Ostrovsky wrote: > On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Oleg Ogurok wrote: > > > Hi there. > > > > Is there any better way to upgrade Xfree in 3.0-RELEASE rather than > > downloading source from xfree86.org? Can I cvsup it? > > Yeah there is. I tried compiling the source (via ports of course) but it > seemed to want a whole bunch of tcl/tk junk (I have tcl, tk and tclX > installed), and would not compile. The only component of XFree86 that requires Tk is XF86Setup. It needs Tcl 8.0/Tk 8.0, but it does not compile with Tcl/Tk 8.1. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:18:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20029 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20023 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:18:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA97326; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:18:23 GMT Message-ID: <36618FEF.C32C623E@tdx.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:18:23 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Kuhtz CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: working StarOffice? Anyone? References: <19981129131147.H9081@ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > Hello: > > I am running 3.0-CURRENT w/ linux_lib2.6 and was trying to get StarOffice 5.0 > to install and setup just blows up with a core dump. Obviously stack traces > aren't much help.. > > Is anyone aware of a way to make this (or any other older version of > StarOffice) work? > > Help! Does anyone know where I can get a working version of StarOffice? :^) This has been covered in this list before :-) - StarOffice 5 needs linux threads to run, which FreeBSD doesn't support at the moment... (Various people are working on this)... I've used Star Office 3 without problems, and apparently StarOffice 4 also works OK... Regards, Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:31:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21018 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:31:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21009 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:31:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@miba.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.253.242] (helo=miba.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zkBce-0005X0-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:31:04 +0000 Message-ID: <366193A3.F4A54D1F@miba.demon.nl> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:34:11 +0100 From: Michael Bakker Reply-To: michael@miba.demon.nl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Teles 16.3 ISDN driver for FreeBsd 2.2.6 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Is there a Teles 16.3 ISDN adapter driver for FreeBsd 2.2.6? Thank you for your time, Michael Bakker. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:32:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21339 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21329 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA88154; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:32:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:32:20 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: "Larry S. Marso" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: recommended ftp client <=> NT file server Message-ID: <19981129123220.A88048@emsphone.com> References: <19981129015929.F7259@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.3i In-Reply-To: <19981129015929.F7259@marso.com>; from "Larry S. Marso" on Sun Nov 29 01:59:29 GMT 1998 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 29), Larry S. Marso said: > I'm having to interface with an NT file server, which displays file names > containing spaces. Some of the popular ftp clients, including ncftp in the > #2 and #3 series, and the ftp client of filerunner, get confused, > particularly when trying to get whole directories. The problem often seems > to be reading and creating an appropriate duplicate directory on the local > machine. Try wget, or mirror, both in the ports tree. Both are designed for duplicating entire directory trees. -Dan Nelson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:49:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22359 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:49:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (hsv1-12.airnet.net [207.242.81.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22340 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@airnet.net) Received: from airnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09941; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:46:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36619684.3805C7D6@airnet.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:46:28 -0600 From: Kris Kirby Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Larry S. Marso" CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: recommended ftp client <=> NT file server References: <19981129015929.F7259@marso.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Larry S. Marso wrote: > > I'm having to interface with an NT file server, which displays file names > containing spaces. Some of the popular ftp clients, including ncftp in the > #2 and #3 series, and the ftp client of filerunner, get confused, > particularly when trying to get whole directories. The problem often seems > to be reading and creating an appropriate duplicate directory on the local > machine. > > Any suggested clients or downloading strategies? ftp(1) and lots of quotes "". Create a local tree that looks like the one you want. Then connect with ftp, set the type to binary (just type in "binary"), and turn the interactive prompting off (type "prompt"). Then mget the tree with wildcards. It will get everything it has a directory for. To make a directory with a space: % mkdir "This has a space". Admittedly, this is the manual approach to mirroring. -- Kris Kirby UAH Mail UAH CS Home WWW ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:55:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22857 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:55:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22850 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id NAA09442 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:51:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from larry) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:51:41 -0500 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ncftp and ntrans Message-ID: <19981129135141.N7259@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.13i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any way to pass an ntrans command along to ftp using ncftp (2 or 3)? Ntrans " " _ is necessary to make translations from dos format names with spaces on an NT server to Unix appropriate local filenames. Ncftp, not ftp, supports "getting" directories, important for the tasks at hand. Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 10:58:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23302 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:58:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23297 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:58:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12565; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:59:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:59:11 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: jonathan michaels cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sig11 failures only with xwindows apps In-Reply-To: <19981129112609.A12998@caamora.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, jonathan michaels wrote: > ummmm. help please. if it explaines anyting, i set all teh accounts here as > default class .. maybe i should be allocating more resources to x window > enabled accounts, yes, if so how much ? i am not really familiar with x and > wouldn't know where to start. It's a good bet that X won't run properly using the default login class. I'd expect something other that sig 11's though. Easy enough to test the theory, just change the login class to xuser and see if things start working better. Dan -- Dan Busarow 949 443 4172 Dana Point Communications, Inc. dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 11:24:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25047 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from VMS.UCI.KUN.NL (vms.uci.kun.nl [131.174.64.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25036 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:24:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from H.vanDoorn@UCI.KUN.NL) Received: from catv6037 (catv6037.extern.kun.nl) by VMS.UCI.KUN.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #8798) with SMTP id <01J4RBMXISUO00GGNU@VMS.UCI.KUN.NL> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:23:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:23:48 +0100 From: "Henry v. Doorn" Subject: Installing a second networkinterface To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <000a01be1bc5$69376d60$2574ae83@catv6037.extern.kun.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BCD.CAFBD560" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BCD.CAFBD560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable L.S. I just started USING Free-BSD. I want to use the machine as a NAT. Your FAQ's and Books give some hints and suggestions how to do this. But what I did not find is information about installing an extra = network- interface for this.=20 I have installed 2 identical network cards. On setup one is activated,=20 how do I activate the second one. I thought because I use 2 identical cards activating the second one cannot be to difficult. I did not found information on this Item in Manuals or FAQ's. Could you point me in the good direction onto solve this problem. Best regards=20 Henry van Doorn/ ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BCD.CAFBD560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
L.S.
 
I just started USING Free-BSD. I = want to use the=20 machine as a NAT.
Your FAQ's and Books give some hints = and=20 suggestions how to do this.
But what I did not find is = information about=20 installing an extra network-
interface for this.
I have installed 2 identical network = cards. On=20 setup one is activated,
how do I=20 activate the second one. I thought because I use 2 = identical
cards activating the second one = cannot be to=20 difficult.
 
I did not found information on this = Item in=20 Manuals or FAQ's. Could you
point me in the good direction onto solve this=20 problem.
 
 
Best regards
Henry van Doorn/
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BCD.CAFBD560-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 11:25:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25319 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hyperhost.net (ether.lightrealm.com [207.159.132.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25314 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:25:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patseal@hyperhost.net) Received: from asus (port47.annex8.radix.net [205.252.108.47]) by hyperhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00965; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:24:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Patrick Seal" To: "Karl Pielorz" Cc: "FBSDQ" Subject: RE: working StarOffice? Anyone? Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:24:53 -0500 Message-ID: <001401be1bcd$f0f3aea0$0200a8c0@asus.hyperhost.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <36618FEF.C32C623E@tdx.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I believe staroffice (3 or 4) is in the ports under editors. Patrick Seal patseal@hyperhost.net Hyperhost Web Hosting and Design http://www.hyperhost.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Karl Pielorz > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 1998 1:18 PM > To: Christian Kuhtz > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: working StarOffice? Anyone? > > > > > Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > > > Hello: > > > > I am running 3.0-CURRENT w/ linux_lib2.6 and was trying to > get StarOffice 5.0 > > to install and setup just blows up with a core dump. > Obviously stack traces > > aren't much help.. > > > > Is anyone aware of a way to make this (or any other older version of > > StarOffice) work? > > > > Help! Does anyone know where I can get a working version of > StarOffice? :^) > > This has been covered in this list before :-) - StarOffice 5 needs linux > threads to run, which FreeBSD doesn't support at the moment... > (Various people > are working on this)... I've used Star Office 3 without problems, and > apparently StarOffice 4 also works OK... > > Regards, > > Karl > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 11:28:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25511 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:28:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cask.force9.net (cask.force9.net [195.166.128.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25506 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from banta@ghulam.force9.co.uk) Received: (qmail 14551 invoked from network); 29 Nov 1998 19:31:16 -0000 Received: from 13.hiper01.shef.dialup.force9.net (HELO signup) (195.166.142.13) by cask.force9.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 1998 19:31:16 -0000 From: "Ghulam Dastgir" To: Subject: XWindows programming Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:27:57 -0800 Message-ID: <01be1c11$6c9b6e60$0d8ea6c3@signup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE1BCE.5E782E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE1BCE.5E782E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've just started X programming using Xlib and when I compile my C = program, that includes the header file Xlib.h, I get errors for all the = Xlib.h declared functions my C program calls, like: /var/tmp/ccPxX2341.o: Undefined symbol '_XOpenDisplay' referenced from = text segment As I mentioned I get exactly this error message for every X function I = use. Any advice here would be most welcome. Thanks, Ghulam ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE1BCE.5E782E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I've just started X programming = using Xlib and=20 when I compile my C program, that includes the header file Xlib.h, I get = errors=20 for all the Xlib.h declared functions my C program calls, = like:
 
  /var/tmp/ccPxX2341.o: = Undefined symbol=20 '_XOpenDisplay' referenced from text segment
 
As I mentioned I get exactly this = error message=20 for every X function I use.
 
Any advice here would be most welcome.
 
Thanks,
Ghulam
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE1BCE.5E782E60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 11:41:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26545 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:41:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26539 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:41:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA21949; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:41:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:41:57 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: "Henry v. Doorn" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing a second networkinterface In-Reply-To: <000a01be1bc5$69376d60$2574ae83@catv6037.extern.kun.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BCD.CAFBD560" Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BCD.CAFBD560 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Henry v. Doorn wrote: > I just started USING Free-BSD. I want to use the machine as a NAT. > Your FAQ's and Books give some hints and suggestions how to do this. > But what I did not find is information about installing an extra network- > interface for this. > I have installed 2 identical network cards. On setup one is activated, > how do I activate the second one. I thought because I use 2 identical > cards activating the second one cannot be to difficult. Edit /etc/rc.conf and add configuration details for the second nic there. Look for "network_interfaces", your first nic plus lo0 will be listed there, add the second nic (you can determine the names by looking at the output of dmesg. Since you are using identical cards the name should be the same as the first with the number increased by 1. So if you currently have network_interfaces="ed1 lo0" make it network_interfaces="ed1 ed2 lo0" Next find the ifconfig line corresponding to your first nic. ifconfig_ed1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00" and add another line for your second nic ifconfig_ed2="inet 172.16.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00" While you're in there set firewall_enable to YES and firewall_type to OPEN, you already build a new kernel with IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT right? Dan -- Dan Busarow 949 443 4172 Dana Point Communications, Inc. dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BCD.CAFBD560-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 11:56:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27386 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:56:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from inhaler.noopy.org (nvp.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.50.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA27381 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:56:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nvp@mediaone.net) From: nvp@mediaone.net Received: (qmail 2180 invoked by uid 603); 29 Nov 1998 19:59:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19981129195943.2179.qmail@inhaler.noopy.org> Subject: Re: XWindows programming In-Reply-To: <01be1c11$6c9b6e60$0d8ea6c3@signup> from Ghulam Dastgir at "Nov 29, 98 07:27:57 pm" To: banta@ghulam.force9.co.uk (Ghulam Dastgir) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:59:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've just started X programming using Xlib and when I compile my C > program, that includes the header file Xlib.h, I get errors for all > the Xlib.h declared functions my C program calls, like: You should be using the (gcc) options -I/usr/X11R6/include and -L/usr/X11R6/lib as well as -lX11 -lXt, so: prompt$ gcc -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib file.c -lX11 -lXt -- Nate Patwardhan nvp@mediaone.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:00:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27755 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:00:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from madcow.borg.com (madcow.borg.com [205.217.206.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27750 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@borg.com) Received: from mail.borg.com (mail.borg.com [205.217.206.192]) by madcow.borg.com (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29227 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from borg.com (L161C.borg.com [208.131.215.161]) by mail.borg.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24552 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:00:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3661A80B.7493DC17@borg.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:01:15 -0500 From: "Mark S. Reichman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Partioning, Disks and wd0s5,s6 and s7... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why cant I mount /dev/wd0s7 to /dos/f. I can mount wd0s6 and wd0s5 to d and e respectively. My fstab below works fine. I dont understand what "Device not configured" could encompass. Obviously something is not working right. I have an entire Gig on the f wd0s7 partition and would like to make it available to FreeBSD. Notice partition 2 is 3 Gigs in size. It actually is broken up into (3) 1 Gig partitions. Whats up here...? I should have a wd0s5,s6 and s7. Thanks for any advice? Maybe geometry somehow? mark@slugo:/etc:>mount_msdos /dev/wd0s7 /dos/f mount_msdos: /dev/wd0s7: Device not configured mark@slugo:/etc:>cat fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/wd1s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/wd1s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd1s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/wd1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/wd0s1 /dos/c msdos rw 0 0 /dev/wd0s5 /dos/d msdos rw 0 0 /dev/wd0s6 /dos/e msdos rw 0 0 mark@slugo:/dev:>ls -la wd0s* brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 0x00020002 Oct 21 1997 wd0s1 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 0x00030002 Oct 21 1997 wd0s2 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 0x00040002 Aug 18 13:47 wd0s3 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 0x00050002 Aug 18 13:47 wd0s4 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 0x00060002 Aug 18 18:50 wd0s5 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 0x00070002 Aug 18 18:50 wd0s6 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 0x00080002 Aug 18 18:51 wd0s7 mark@slugo:/home/mark:>fdisk ******* Working on device /dev/rwd0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=556 heads=240 sectors/track=63 (15120 blks/cyl) parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=556 heads=240 sectors/track=63 (15120 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 11,(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT) start 63, size 1950417 (952 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 128/ sector 63/ head 239 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 5,(Extended DOS) start 1950480, size 6441120 (3145 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 129/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 554/ sector 63/ head 239 The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:12:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29212 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apogee.whack.org (apogee.whack.org [209.152.153.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29205 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@whack.org) Received: from andrew by apogee.whack.org with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zkD54-0002EV-00; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:04:30 -0800 Message-ID: <19981129120430.A8507@apogee.whack.org> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:04:30 -0800 From: Andrew To: David Bein Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd and Solaris 2.x on x86 platforms ... References: <36610B2F.22BB18CC@pyramid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <36610B2F.22BB18CC@pyramid.com>; from David Bein on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 03:51:59AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 03:51:59AM -0500, David Bein wrote: > > Has anyone out there ever succeeded in sharing a single disk > (using the FDISK facility) with Solaris on one partition and > FreeBSD on the other? If so, I'd like to hear from you. Also, > the same question, but instead substitute NT 4.0 for Solaris > 2.x on x86. > David, Yes, this is actually very easy... I actually used the FreeBSD `fdisk' to cut my 4.3gb disk in half, installed Solaris 2.6 on the second half, then installed FreeBSD 3.0 on the first half. Since both OS's like to install a boot manager... I installed `booteasy' attempting to overwrite the Solaris boot manager, but it seems (i could be wrong) that the Solaris boot manager resides within the Solaris partition!@#$ because after booteasy decides that I want to boot from `Linux swap' (i.e. Solaris 2.6) I am suddenly transported into the Solaris boot manager... anyway... the short story is that the two OS's coexist quite nicely, however cannot read each others filesystems... Cordially, _____________________________________________ Andrew Perkins andrew@violet.org System Administrator 415.739.0540 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:16:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29792 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:16:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from max.phys.uu.nl (max.phys.uu.nl [131.211.32.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29784 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.R.Flobbe@phys.uu.nl) Received: from ruunat.phys.uu.nl (ruunat.phys.uu.nl [131.211.32.69]) by max.phys.uu.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7/hjm) with ESMTP id VAA09339 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:15:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (flobbe@localhost) by ruunat.phys.uu.nl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA26014 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:15:54 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: ruunat.phys.uu.nl: flobbe owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:15:54 +0100 (MET) From: Sander Flobbe To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Need an 'a' partition on both drives, possible? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have two IDE disks (/dev/wd0 and /dev/wd1) and I want both of them to contain an 'a' partition. Is that possible? This is what I do: * Start from 2.2.7-RELEASE floppy, * choose post-install * label /dev/wd1 (compat. mode, entire disk) * press W for write * partition /dev/wd1 (with a '/' partition and some others) * press W for write Then the following error (Alt-F2) occurs: newfs: /dev/rwd1s1a: `a' partition is unavailable There is no help on making Compatibility Mode Disks from the prompt (I love CLI) in the tutorials/handbook/faq. The reason I want both drives to have an 'a' partition is because I want to be able to startup FreeBSD from wd0 or from wd1, both with their own '/' partition. (I don't need other OS's) I'd appreciate any help/hint/suggestion very much! (no help in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc) S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:18:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00248 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:18:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00197 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:17:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA36935 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:19:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Message-ID: <19981129141911.A13377@futuresouth.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:19:11 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp help Mail-Followup-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <365E22C2.31457BB3@infomagic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <365E22C2.31457BB3@infomagic.com>; from george vagner on Thu, Nov 26, 1998 at 08:55:46PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (george vagner, vagner@infomagic.com) once wrote... > i am trying to dial into an ascend pipeline server but am getting the > login ok! but no data arrives. a look at the ppp.log shows "Address > family not supported by protocol family" Have you recompiled your kernel and forgotten networknig support? Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:21:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00519 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:21:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.magda.ru (ns.magda.ru [194.85.102.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00514 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:21:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from main@main.ru) Received: from mordor.magda.ru ([194.85.102.186]:28164 "HELO ns.magda.ru" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by ns.magda.ru with SMTP id <61511-9101>; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:28:37 +0300 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:22:31 +0300 From: Anatoly V Ivanov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.15) S/N 15A56A34 Reply-To: Anatoly V Ivanov Organization: MAGDA ISP X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7973.981129@main.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppp (pppd) leaving tunN (pppN) up! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm terribly sorry for trouble, but I've lost any hope. I've used FreeBSD 2.2.5 as ppp dialup server, and sometimes it left an interface (tunN in case of ppp, pppN in case of pppd) in UP state with IP address given! look what i got: >Nov 29 22:29:54 mordor ppp[9271]: Phase: bundle: Network >Nov 29 22:29:55 mordor ppp[9271]: Error: SetIPaddress: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): File exists >Nov 29 22:29:55 mordor ppp[9271]: Error: ipcp_InterfaceUp: unable to set ip address >Nov 29 22:29:55 mordor ppp[9271]: Phase: bundle: Terminate But there was a hope what this strange bug will be removed from FreeBSD and/or ppp(d) implementation, but now I'm using FreeBSD 3.0 and the bug still here. It's alive even when i changed my pap mgetty shell from ppp to pppd. Is it known bug or it's the only my bad luck? And can you help me? With best wishes, Anatoly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:21:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00534 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00529 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:21:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA39800 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:23:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Message-ID: <19981129142319.B13377@futuresouth.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:23:19 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question not answered by online docs Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199811262241004@dyne.medscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199811262241004@dyne.medscape.com>; from Immanuel Kant on Thu, Nov 26, 1998 at 10:41:00PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (Immanuel Kant, dyne@medscape.com) once wrote... > I get into the PPP Interactive program on the installation type the > following > > enable pap > set authname (name) > set authkey (key) > set phone (number) > dial > > it does nothing Type "term" and see if you can dial out using AT commands. Perhaps you need to tell ppp what port your modem is on? Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:23:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00736 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:23:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00728 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:23:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA39954 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:25:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Message-ID: <19981129142528.C13377@futuresouth.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:25:28 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quit XDM/DTLogin? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <003a01be19f4$6d815660$780c600a@sandy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <003a01be19f4$6d815660$780c600a@sandy>; from Arisandy on Fri, Nov 27, 1998 at 05:55:05PM +0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (Arisandy, sandy@divre5.telkom.co.id) once wrote... > how can I quit/restart or change to command line mode > when I run XDM or DTLogin(CDE) in startup?? To restart X11, type control-alt-backspace. To switch to textmode, leaving X11 running, type control-alt-f1. Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:34:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01704 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01699 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:34:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA40817 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:36:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Message-ID: <19981129143642.D13377@futuresouth.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:36:42 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xbiff and etc. (port 512) Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Oleg Ogurok on Fri, Nov 27, 1998 at 07:16:35PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (Oleg Ogurok, oleg@ogurok.com) once wrote... > I enabled log_in_vain, so now all connections to closed ports are logged. > /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:2844 > File /etc/services tells that port 512 is for notify that mail has > arrived (xbiff program etc.). I have disabled all services in inetd > except pop3, Sendmail does that I think, when it delivers local mail. Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:43:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02379 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:43:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02361 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:42:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09421 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:42:39 +0100 (CET) To: faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: entry on "calcru: negative time" From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:42:38 +0100 Message-ID: <9419.912372158@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Q: My machine prints "calcru: negative time..." Q: My machine shoots processes down with "SIGXCPU exceeded cpu time limit" A: (FreeBSD-3 from 1998/11/29 forward): This can be caused by various hardware and/or software ailments relating to interrupts. It may be due to bugs but can also happen by nature of certain devices. Running TCP/IP over the parallel port using a large MTU is one good way to provoke this problem. Graphics accellerators can also get you here, in which case you should check the interrupt setting of the card first. If the problem cannot be fixed otherwise the solution is to set this sysctl variable: sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1 This means a performance impact, but considering the cause of this problem, you probably will not notice. If the problem persists, keep the sysctl set to one and set the "NTIMECOUNTER" option in your kernel to increasingly larger values. If by the time you have reached "NTIMECOUNTER=20" the problem isn't solved, interrupts are too hosed on your machine for reliable timekeeping. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 12:48:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02992 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:48:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02987 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:48:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lurkie@wxs.nl) Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.36.175]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA48D7; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:48:31 +0100 Message-ID: <3661D00F.2784FB0C@wxs.nl> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:51:59 +0000 From: Marc Veldman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: michael@miba.demon.nl CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Teles 16.3 ISDN driver for FreeBsd 2.2.6 References: <366193A3.F4A54D1F@miba.demon.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Bakker wrote: > Is there a Teles 16.3 ISDN adapter driver for FreeBsd 2.2.6? There is a driver, called i4b, you can get it at ftp.consol.de. log in as isdn4bsd with your email address as password. in the /pub directory you will find a .tgz file and a README file. the driver is *ALPHA* software. If you follow the readme's and the documentation, installation is fairly easy. There is also a mailing list, freebsd-isdn. To subscribe, do the same as for freebsd-questions. Good Luck, Marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 13:08:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04112 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:08:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04107 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:08:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-118.laker.net [208.0.233.18]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id QAA03639; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:08:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199811292108.QAA03639@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "ML Duke" Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:06:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Spreadsheet? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:06:12 -0700 (MST), ML Duke wrote: >In preparation for making a bid for a software installation/upgrade >monitoring and reporting contract, I went to both ports and the >cdrom.com archives looking for a package such as a spreadsheet >that can track tasks, times, behind schedule (which is what it >will be) and etc.. A spreadsheet is a generic tool. If you know how to design spreadsheets to accomplish your task, then StarOffice 3.1 is in the ports. I have installed StarOffice 3.1 on my system without too much difficulty. It requires X windows. But if you need an already designed spreadsheet application, sorry, I am not aware of one for your particular task. Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 13:12:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04504 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:12:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peedub.muc.de (newpc.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04499 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.1/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA04056; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:49:04 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199811292049.VAA04056@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: michael@miba.demon.nl cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Teles 16.3 ISDN driver for FreeBsd 2.2.6 Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:34:11 +0100." <366193A3.F4A54D1F@miba.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:49:04 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Bakker writes: >Hello > >Is there a Teles 16.3 ISDN adapter driver for FreeBsd 2.2.6? > >Thank you for your time, > go to ftp.consol.de, log in as isdn4bsd, cd /pub and grab the 0.63 alpha release which is there. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - garyj@muc.de Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 13:26:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05602 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dsinw.com (dsinw.com [207.149.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05596 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:26:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamellr@dsinw.com) Received: from direct-source.com.direct-source.com (ppp67.pm3-0.pdx.dsinw.com [207.149.41.67]) by dsinw.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA27659; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:20:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:17:01 -0800 () From: Rick Hamell To: Eddie Irvine cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: New install - I want DES. In-Reply-To: <3660D401.11D9C0C5@tpgi.com.au> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: hamellr@dsinw.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I want this install to use DES rather than MD5, mainly because > I suspect it is why I can't get mailman to work correctly > (mailman is a perl based http interface to email). > > But I'm outside of the US. I've had a look in the handbook and > can't find much help. Pop over to your local freebsd.au mirror and download DES from there. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 13:31:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06261 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:31:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06236 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:31:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au) From: Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA18629 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:31:44 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.21) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma018627; Mon, 30 Nov 98 08:31:40 +1100 Received: by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 4A2566CB.007BCC8D ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:32:12 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <4A2566CB.007BCC33.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:31:25 +1000 Subject: Samba: Your server software is being unfriendly Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing to share my experience with this samba error on FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE Session request failed (0,0) with myname=TSITC2 destname=TSITC Unspecified error 0x0 Your server software is being unfriendly When the server is running in debug mode (-d3 or more) it logs 1998/11/28 11:43:51 changed root to / open_oplock_ipc: opening loopback UDP socket. open_oplock_ipc: Failed to get local UDP socket for address 100007f. Error was C an't assign requested address This message is generated by server.c when it trys to oplock_sock = open_socket_in(SOCK_DGRAM, 0, 0, htonl(INADDR_LOOPBACK)); if (oplock_sock == -1) { DEBUG(0,("open_oplock_ipc: Failed to get local UDP socket for \ address %x. Error was %s\n", htonl(INADDR_LOOPBACK), strerror(errno))); oplock_port = 0; return(False); which calls 'bind' in util.c if (bind(res, (struct sockaddr * ) &sock,sizeof(sock)) < 0) The samba documentation docs/DIAGNOSIS.txt suggests that this is a nameserver problem and to check resolv.conf, DNS configuration etc. In this case the DNS was resolving both 127.0.0.1 (aka 1000007f) and the servers name and IP addresscorrectly. Here, as is so often the case, rigourous adherence to first level problem determination (what has been changed ?) would have helped rather than fruitlessly pursuing the DNS stuff (change DNS, change to hosts etc). The server had been changed to a new Catalyst 2900 switch and the Intel PRO FX card had failed to work properly at 100 Mbps (characters typed to a telnet session would take up to 10 seconds to echo; responses from the remote host were also delayed) so its media type had been changed to 10baseT/UTP. In the process, the ifconfig for lo0 interface had been accidentally commented out, so it had no IP Address. Restoring 127.0.0.1 to lo0 fixed it up. Thank you, Yours sincerely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 13:33:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06392 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:33:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apogee.whack.org (apogee.whack.org [209.152.153.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06387 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:33:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@whack.org) Received: from andrew by apogee.whack.org with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zkELe-0002M5-00; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:25:42 -0800 Message-ID: <19981129132542.A8986@apogee.whack.org> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:25:42 -0800 From: Andrew To: David Bein Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd and Solaris 2.x on x86 platforms ... References: <912370579/bein@buddha.mass.pyramid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <912370579/bein@buddha.mass.pyramid.com>; from David Bein on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 03:16:19PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 03:16:19PM -0500, David Bein wrote: > > Any chance you've managed to have NT and FreeBSD > on the same disk? I am assuming that FreeBSD and > Solaris probably take the same basic approach to > bootstrapping. NT setup makes all kind of nasty assumptions > and no matter which one loads first, I have found > no load order where important stuff to the first > one (NT or Solaris) is not overwritten badly by > the second one. There are cases where I have > been able to walk my way thru the Solaris device config > floppy boot procedure without having to reload, but > it is a very slow way to do it. I have not found > a boot manager (except the Solaris one) which > recognizes Solaris partitions. > David, Yes, I have done this in the past with NTserver4build1381 & Freebsd_2.2.5 I would install NT on the first partition first, then install FreeBSD on the second... I would actually recommend that you partition the disk first with the FreeBSD `fdisk'. > > Where do I find out more about 'booteasy'? > booteasy can be installed from the FreeBSD install process, right after you partition your disk... or manually from /stand/sysinstall if you have already booted freebsd... Enter the installer, -> Custom -> Partition -> Select Drive -> ...partitions... -> [Q]uit -> Install Boot Manager? [BootMgr] -> (done) Cordially, _____________________________________________ Andrew Perkins andrew@violet.org System Administrator 415.739.0540 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 13:57:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07798 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:57:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apogee.whack.org (apogee.whack.org [209.152.153.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07793; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:57:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@whack.org) Received: from andrew by apogee.whack.org with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zkEpF-0002Pu-00; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:56:17 -0800 Message-ID: <19981129135617.A9283@apogee.whack.org> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:56:17 -0800 From: Andrew To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: crt1.o [ELF] is broken in 3.0-release? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, Running Freebsd 3.0-release, there appears to be a bug in /usr/lib/crt1.o which will not allow one to compile an ELF gcc-2.8.1 from origional source or even install the port: 1. the port: (this is a really bogus error, BROKEN_ELF; gcc-2.8.1 compiles ELF binaries on other platforms) # make install ===> gcc-2.8.1 is broken for ELF: /usr/lib/aout/crt0.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized. # 2. compile from origional source: (this is what I really want to do) # make LANGUAGES=c ...... ./xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g -I./include enquire.o -o enquire /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open crt0.o: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. # 3. compile from origional source: (after either: a. symlink /usr/lib/crt0.o /usr/lib/crt1.o -or- b. editing /specs and replacing all occurences of crt0 -> crt1) # make LANGUAGES=c ...... ./xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g -I./include enquire.o -o enquire /usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol start; defaulting to 080483d0 /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x49): undefined reference to `main' enquire.o: In function `overflow': /usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/./enquire.c(.text+0xd): undefined reference to `_signal' enquire.o: In function `setmode': /usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/./enquire.c(.text+0x57): undefined reference to `_(short, (void))' ...... /usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/enquire.c(.text+0xacb4): undefined reference to `_printf' enquire.o(.text+0xad05):/usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/enquire.c: more undefined references to `_printf' follow enquire.o: In function `__sputc': /usr/include/stdio.h(.text+0xd56d): undefined reference to `___swbuf' ./libgcc.a(__main.o): In function `__do_global_ctors': /usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/./libgcc2.c(.text+0x66): undefined reference to `_atexit' *** Error code 1 Stop. # Cordially, _____________________________________________ Andrew Perkins andrew@violet.org System Administrator 415.739.0540 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 14:00:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08254 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:00:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from astor.interport.net (astor.interport.net [199.184.165.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08249 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from molbloo@interport.net) Received: from interport.net (molbloo@park.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.2]) by astor.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03984 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (molbloo@localhost) by interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16901 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:00:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: alissa bader Reply-To: alissa bader To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: disk geometry on a 133mHz amd machine? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my installation queries. As it turned out, I had bad ram. I just swapped the ram around and it installed with no problems. Yay... Now I am having a problem with the system hanging at startup. It stops at "F" and asks you to type something--this is detailed in the faq, so I'm not going to get into further describing it. Anyway, according to the faq, I have a problem with my disk geometry--i have a big drive (a quantum fireball se 2.1 gig, to be exact) and I think my bios might not be set to handle it. (I'm running american megatrends bios, version from 5/16/96). I spoke with quantum tech support and I did enter the bios settings correctly. However, in the faq it mentions that I should set it to read 504 megs if I have problems like this? (bit confused here). If this is the case, how do I get it configured as such? How do I get my disk geometry all nice and happy? oh yeah, hardware check: my machine has a 586 133mHz amd processor, a mitsumi 32X cdrom, 8 megs of ram, generic 3.5 floppy drive. it's also got a headland video card (not sure of the exact specs) and yes, a quantum fireball se drive, 2.1 gigs. I'm trying to install freebsd 2.2.6 (yeah, I'll make it 2.2.7 soon as I get the machine up and connected to the net). Oh, and it's an ide drive. I'm running strictly ide now. I'll switch to scsi later. thanks in advance for all your help! --alissa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 14:38:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10640 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:38:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10595; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:37:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA08018; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:07:32 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA00728; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:07:30 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981130090729.A456@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:07:29 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Andrew , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: crt1.o [ELF] is broken in 3.0-release? References: <19981129135617.A9283@apogee.whack.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19981129135617.A9283@apogee.whack.org>; from Andrew on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 01:56:17PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 13:56:17 -0800, Andrew wrote: > Hello all, > > Running Freebsd 3.0-release, there appears to be a bug in > /usr/lib/crt1.o which will not allow one to compile an ELF > gcc-2.8.1 from origional source or even install the port: > > 1. the port: (this is a really bogus error, BROKEN_ELF; gcc-2.8.1 compiles > ELF binaries on other platforms) BROKEN_ELF is trying to tell you something. In your language, it's saying ``this is a really bogus error, and we know about it''. > # make install > ===> gcc-2.8.1 is broken for ELF: /usr/lib/aout/crt0.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized. And in case you didn't notice before, it's telling you again. > 2. compile from origional source: (this is what I really want to do) > > # make LANGUAGES=c > ...... > ./xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g -I./include enquire.o -o enquire > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open crt0.o: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > # > > 3. compile from origional source: (after either: a. symlink > /usr/lib/crt0.o /usr/lib/crt1.o -or- b. editing > /specs and replacing all occurences of crt0 -> crt1) > > # make LANGUAGES=c > ...... > ./xgcc -B./ -DIN_GCC -g -I./include enquire.o -o enquire > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol start; defaulting to 080483d0 > /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x49): undefined reference to `main' > enquire.o: In function `overflow': > /usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/./enquire.c(.text+0xd): undefined reference to `_signal' > enquire.o: In function `setmode': > /usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/./enquire.c(.text+0x57): undefined reference to `_(short, (void))' > ...... > /usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/enquire.c(.text+0xacb4): undefined reference to `_printf' > enquire.o(.text+0xad05):/usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/enquire.c: more undefined references to `_printf' follow > enquire.o: In function `__sputc': > /usr/include/stdio.h(.text+0xd56d): undefined reference to `___swbuf' > ./libgcc.a(__main.o): In function `__do_global_ctors': > /usr/build/gcc/gcc-2.8.1/./libgcc2.c(.text+0x66): undefined reference to `_atexit' > *** Error code 1 This is probably a problem with the libraries, or possibly with the symbol naming, as I told you yesterday in a number of mail messages. There are two ways to address this problem: fix it yourself or wait for somebody else to fix it. Telling people what they already know is not productive. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 14:38:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10765 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from softhome.net (charleston.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10746 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:38:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from investigations@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 22047 invoked by uid 417); 29 Nov 1998 22:48:25 -0000 Received: from ppp-dialup-ny-174.smartweb.net (HELO crap) (207.202.14.174) by smtp.softhome.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 1998 22:48:25 -0000 From: "Investigations" To: Subject: ppp.conf & "allow user(s) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:30:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be1be7$e8d326a0$ae0ecacf@crap> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: High X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG fbsd version 3.0 RELEASE In my *ppp.conf* THE *default* section i have placed as the last line being; allow user blah OR allow users blah (blah being only one login name) the problem is that when *blah* types "ppp" at his prompt, the prompt returns -- "permission denied" What am i missing for this not to werk? PS root can use ppp just fine. Respectfully yours No-user-ppp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 14:47:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11472 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:47:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns1.briang.org (c879583-a.ptbrg1.sfba.home.com [24.1.88.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11461 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:47:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jenny@jennyg.org) Received: from brian-desktop (desktop.briang.org [192.168.0.41]) by dns1.briang.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA00582 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:54:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000a01be1bea$bfe7f6a0$2900a8c0@brian-desktop.briang.org> From: "Briang" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Running Snmpd Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:51:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BA7.B14610C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BA7.B14610C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just installed ucd-snmp package and everything looked okay. When I try to run snmpd this is what I get -> =20 dns1# pwd /usr/local/sbin dns1# ls clog identd snmpd sshd tcpdchk = traceroute idecrypt sniffit snmptrapd sshd1 = tcpdmatch dns1# snmpd -v snmpd: Command not found. dns1#=20 =20 Why is this ? =20 Thanks=20 -Brian brian@briang.org ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BA7.B14610C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just installed ucd-snmp package = and everything=20 looked okay.
When I try to run snmpd this is what = I get =20 ->
 
dns1# = pwd
/usr/local/sbin
dns1#=20 ls
clog          &nb= sp;=20 identd         =20 snmpd          =20 sshd           =20 tcpdchk        =20 traceroute
idecrypt       =20 sniffit        =20 snmptrapd      =20 sshd1          =20 tcpdmatch
dns1# snmpd -v
snmpd: Command not = found.
dns1#
 
Why is this ?
 
Thanks
-Brian
brian@briang.org
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE1BA7.B14610C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 15:14:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14035 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:14:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (pinsoft.internet.co.nz [202.37.141.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14026 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Received: from kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz [202.37.163.2]) by kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03939; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:14:39 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:14:38 +1300 (NZDT) From: Jonathan Chen To: Investigations cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp.conf & "allow user(s) In-Reply-To: <000001be1be7$e8d326a0$ae0ecacf@crap> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Investigations wrote: > the problem is that when *blah* types "ppp" at his prompt, the prompt > returns -- "permission denied" > > What am i missing for this not to werk? Add the user to the group `network' in /etc/group -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!" - Curly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 15:16:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14243 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:16:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (pinsoft.internet.co.nz [202.37.141.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14236 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:16:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Received: from kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz [202.37.163.2]) by kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03945; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:15:58 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:15:57 +1300 (NZDT) From: Jonathan Chen To: Briang cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Running Snmpd In-Reply-To: <000a01be1bea$bfe7f6a0$2900a8c0@brian-desktop.briang.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Briang wrote: > I just installed ucd-snmp package and everything looked okay. > When I try to run snmpd this is what I get -> > > dns1# pwd > /usr/local/sbin > > dns1# ls > clog identd snmpd sshd tcpdchk traceroute > idecrypt sniffit snmptrapd sshd1 tcpdmatch > > dns1# snmpd -v > snmpd: Command not found. > > dns1# > > Why is this ? Your path is incorrect. Try: ./snmpd -v -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!" - Curly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 16:48:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24506 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:48:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from saturn.golden.net (saturn.golden.net [199.166.210.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24481 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:48:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marko@websorcery.com) Received: from vidbox (AS52-04-186.cas-kit.golden.net [209.183.128.186]) by saturn.golden.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21257 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:47:25 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marko's Work" From: "Marko's Work" To: Subject: Curious about what happens during boot. Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: <01be1bfa$fdc6f100$ba80b7d1@vidbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With FreeBSD, what script is run first (upon boot) in the /etc directory? With dos, config.sys and autoexec.bat are run after command.com, but in FreeBSD what comes after running the kernel? I would like to trace the whole procedure to become familiar with it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 17:00:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25821 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:00:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.wgn.net (mail.wgn.net [207.213.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25816 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:00:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from almazs@wgn.net) Received: from laptop (du538-pcap-nca01.wgn.net [207.213.7.30]) by mail.wgn.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA28669 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:00:46 -0800 Message-ID: <3661ED1A.74F7@wgn.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:55:54 -0800 From: Co-app Network consulting Reply-To: almazs@wgn.net Organization: Network Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: serial comm dialin service Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi; I just configured a FreeBSD 2.2.6 for a dialin service with a USR Sportster 14.4 modem. My setup passed all the troubleshooting checks in the handbook i.e DTR asserted ps -ax shows ttyd1 running @ 19200K when dialing-in the modem connects @14.4 'CONNECTED ...14.400' BUT no login prompt only bad characters! I am dialing-in to the FreeBSD box from a terminal session running on WIN95 laptop with a USR sportster 28.8K PCMCIA modem. thanks in advance Daniel Berhe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 17:02:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26127 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26120 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA08589; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:31:53 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA01294; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:31:48 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981130113148.H831@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:31:48 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Marko's Work" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Curious about what happens during boot. References: <01be1bfa$fdc6f100$ba80b7d1@vidbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <01be1bfa$fdc6f100$ba80b7d1@vidbox>; from Marko's Work on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:47:22PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 19:47:22 -0500, Marko's Work wrote: > With FreeBSD, what script is run first (upon boot) in the /etc directory? > With dos, config.sys and autoexec.bat are run after > command.com, but in FreeBSD what comes after running the kernel? > I would like to trace the whole procedure to become familiar with it. This is a borderline -questions/-hackers question. I'll deal with it here. The first process that UNIX starts is process 0 (strangely enough). Nowadays it doesn't do much more than spawn process 1, which is called init. From the source code (/usr/src/sbin/init/init.c): /* * The mother of all processes. */ Roughly, init performs the following functions on startup: 1. Initializes itself, including ensuring that it's process 1, setting the way it opens the system log file, ensuring that it's a session leader and running as root, and looking at some of the boot flags, including -s (single user) and -f (fast boot). 2. If you specify -s, it will go into single user mode by spawning a copy of itself, which will start a shell. You do what you want and exit the shell. Then the original init continues. 3. Next it starts a shell which runs the script /etc/rc, and waits for it to complete. You can take a look at /etc/rc to see what it does: it reads in the following scripts: /etc/rc.conf to get configuration variables /etc/rc.serial to configure serial devices, /etc/rc.pccard to set up PC-cards (laptop plugin cards), /etc/rc.network to start the network services /etc/rc.i386 for processor-specific startup /etc/rc.local for site-related startup files 4. Finally it looks at the file /etc/ttys and starts all the gettys described there. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 17:12:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27051 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ics.com (ics.com [140.186.40.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27046; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaleb@ics.com) Received: from sunoco (sunoco.ics.com [140.186.40.142]) by ics.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id UAA06677; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:12:32 -0500 (EST) From: Kaleb Keithley Received: by sunoco (SMI-8.6/Spike-2.1) id UAA13585; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:12:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:12:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199811300112.UAA13585@sunoco> Content-Type: text Apparently-To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Apparently-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to set up the Columbia AppleTalk stuff on my 3.0-RELEASE machine. Mainly I want to run aufs so that the Mac can use some of the disk on my FreeBSD box. I have NETATALK and bpf enabled in the kernel. I'm curious about this comment in the uar README, which says: Notes for FreeBSD 2.0 users: There appears to be an error in the ethernet driver (at least in the ed0 version) which causes the IEEE 802.3 length bytes to be reversed. Is there any truth to this? I am using the ed driver for my NIC. I've looked at if_ed.c, but not knowing what to look for means I'm at a loss. With 802.3 disabled on the Mac I can ping the Mac just fine (and the Mac works fine) but as soon as I enable 802.3, when I ping the Mac, ping reports "sendto: Host is down". Thoughts? -- Kaleb S. KEITHLEY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 17:31:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28827 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:31:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whiteshadow.dyn.ml.org (derby.JSP.UMontreal.CA [132.204.45.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28822 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:31:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spidey@whiteshadow.dyn.ml.org) Received: from localhost (spidey@localhost) by whiteshadow.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01995 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:31:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from spidey@whiteshadow.dyn.ml.org) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:31:54 -0500 (EST) From: Spidey Reply-To: Spidey To: freebsd-questions Subject: Dialing interactively through /dev/modem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everybody! I'm trying to use my modem to fetch my messages on a remote electronic answering machine. It is a service from my phone company which takes messages when the line is busy or when there's no one home, a normal answering machine, for all that matters. The only thing is that I must dial a number (*98) and a numeric password in order to get to a virutal menu where I must enter number on the phone in order to listen to different messages. This is the basic principle of the thing. What I want to do is to be able to dial the number and the password automatically, and then enter some numbers as the machine talks. I know that I can do something like: echo "atdt*98,,,,PASSWORD" > /dev/cuaa2 if /dev/cuaa2 is my modem. I tried it, it works. But when the number is dialed and the password entered, all subsequent entry will hang up the line! So how can I dial other numbers after? I know this is not FreeBSD specific, but since Windoze modems and manuals will only tell me to buy this and that piece of junk (read: software), I do not see a lot of alternatives... Ultimatly, I would like this little experience to lead me to a phone-simulation program for voice-capable modems... Thanks for any hint! Spidey How 'bout a little ride through your own world? http://www.JSP.UMontreal.CA/~beaupran/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 18:01:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01589 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PigStuy.dyn.ml.org (nyc-ny71-56.ix.netcom.com [209.109.226.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01408 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:01:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@pigstuy.dyn.ml.org) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by PigStuy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA14641; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:00:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from spork@pigstuy.dyn.ml.org) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:00:16 -0500 (EST) From: Spike Gronim Reply-To: sporkl@ix.netcom.com To: "Marko's Work" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Curious about what happens during boot. In-Reply-To: <01be1bfa$fdc6f100$ba80b7d1@vidbox> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Marko's Work wrote: > With FreeBSD, what script is run first (upon boot) in the /etc directory? > With dos, config.sys and autoexec.bat are run after > command.com, but in FreeBSD what comes after running the kernel? > I would like to trace the whole procedure to become familiar with it. The first script run from /etc is rc. You can look in rc for the exact order of other system startup scripts. -Spike Gronim sporkl@ix.netcom.com The majority only rules those who let them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 18:10:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02342 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:10:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (pinsoft.internet.co.nz [202.37.141.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02335 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:10:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Received: from kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz [202.37.163.2]) by kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA05267; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:10:06 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:10:06 +1300 (NZDT) From: Jonathan Chen To: Greg Lehey cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Curious about what happens during boot. In-Reply-To: <19981130113148.H831@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: [...] > The first process that UNIX starts is process 0 (strangely enough). > Nowadays it doesn't do much more than spawn process 1, which is called > init. Hmm. If the process 1 is called `init'; was there ever a name for process 0? Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect 'Hungry' ..." - Gary Larson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 18:22:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03326 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:22:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03318 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:22:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA08906; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:51:52 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA00577; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:51:49 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981130125149.A431@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:51:49 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Jonathan Chen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Curious about what happens during boot. References: <19981130113148.H831@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jonathan Chen on Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 03:10:06PM +1300 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 30 November 1998 at 15:10:06 +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > > [...] >> The first process that UNIX starts is process 0 (strangely enough). >> Nowadays it doesn't do much more than spawn process 1, which is called >> init. > > Hmm. If the process 1 is called `init'; was there ever a name for > process 0? Oh yes, there still is. But it differs from one system to another. On FreeBSD, it's called `swapper' and is responsible for wholesale removal of a process image to backing store. This goes back to the pre-virtual memory versions of UNIX, when swapping was the only way to get a process out of memory. Other versions of UNIX use it for other purposes and give it other names. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 18:34:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04379 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:34:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from brainstem.idcomm.com (brainstem.idcomm.com [207.40.196.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04374 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:34:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexd@idcomm.com) Received: from ego.idcomm.com (ego.idcomm.com [207.40.196.10]) by brainstem.idcomm.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA04342 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:34:26 -0700 Received: from idcomm.com ([208.13.36.188]) by ego.idcomm.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-13674) with ESMTP id AAA185 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:41:23 -0700 Message-ID: <36620440.F58C5925@idcomm.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:34:40 -0700 From: Alex Davidson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: How to Resize Disk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am fairly new to FreeBSD and have installed 2.2.7 on a 1GB drive along with XFree86 and KDE (+ it's utils, games etc.) and Netscape Communicator 4.05. Having finally received my Complete FreeBSD book I started messing around a little and decided to add me as a real user instead of using root. In the process I ran out of disk space! That was quick! When I do df it says that / is at 109% Capacity, /usr is at 49%, /var is at 7%, /proc is at 100% and /mnt is at 74% I am having problems now when I receive email - obviously it really is out of space - and Netscape closes itself when I try and clean out my Trash folder. Is there a command (I have not found) that will allow me to resize the filesystem? What about a way to clean up the installation? Might there be some temp files somewhere I can delete? Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 18:38:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04783 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:38:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ha1.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04777 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:38:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from listaccount@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.65.122.172]) by ha1.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5 release 217 ID# 0-53853L0S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:38:12 -0800 Message-ID: <3662050D.DC86D70@home.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:38:05 -0600 From: List Account Management Reply-To: listaccount@home.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "\"Joe \\\"Marcus\\\" Clarke\"" Subject: Re: Installation advice needed - Fat32 /usr, /var? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke wrote: > > This sounds bad to begin with first of all. Thanks for the vote of confidence :) > I'm not sure of all the > pitfalls that can be encountered using FAT32 in place of ffs, but I can > name a BIG one. FAT32 does NOT support unix permissions. All files will > be executable, and readable by everyone. This has to cause problems with > some installs. Plus, ffs offers a bunch of performance boosts over FAT > filesystems. I'm not sure if the caching that ffs uses applies to FAT, > but I bet it doesn't. Meaning, when you right to an ffs filesystem, > FreeBSD doesn't write the data right away. It caches it, so that actual > disk seeks are reduced. FAT also doesn't support quotas, and Windows has > a way of mangling long filenames. Plus, I don't believe 98 is case > sensitive. You could end up screwing up your UNIX program names. I'd I think you're probably on to something there.. I hadn't thought about install problems due to lack of permissions.. Now you got me so curious I'm going to try it just to see what kind of mess it will make :) When I ran FreeBSD previously, accessing a FAT partition (16 or 32), I believe it DID do at least some caching. I don't recall any specific information on this, but from my experience, FreeBSD seemed to cache my mounted FAT partitions. Performance and security aren't really concerns for me for my purposes, as this will be a standalone, single-user machine. (I have devoted more than enough space to put the OS and probably ALL of my installed programs on a native partition). > stich with ffs for FreeBSD...maybe trash NT. I mean, with 98 you have > games, and FreeBSD gives you everything else. What's the point of having > NT at all these days? Ha! Yeah.. I honestly wish I could agree with that. I do a lot of cross-platform development though, and provide support for a number of different OSes (Including Microsoft OSes, unfortunately :) I would be more than content to convert this machine to run dedicated FreeBSD, if I thought the industry would listen to me :) -Ryan Thompson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 18:45:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05440 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:45:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05435; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:45:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA09028; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:15:23 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA00692; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:15:22 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981130131521.F431@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:15:21 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Ryan Ryttie Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Fwd: Undeliverable Message References: <19981130015104.8047.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19981130015104.8047.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>; from Ryan Ryttie on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 05:51:04PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format autorecovered at freebie.lemis.com] On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 17:51:04 -0800, Ryan Ryttie wrote: > I tried sending to freebsd-stable but got this bounce in return so... even tho i'm using 2.2.7 could anyone help me? This line is overlong. It looks a lot better like this: > I tried sending to freebsd-stable but got this bounce in return > To: iSMTP@DCSG-SIN01@Servers[] > Cc: > Subject: trouble configuring local network... > > Message not delivered to recipients below. Press F1 for help with VNM > error codes. > > VNM3043: Ford Leu@Services@DCTW-TPE This has nothing to do with FreeBSD-stable. > so... even tho i'm using 2.2.7 could anyone help me? No, why should they? That's what the FreeBSD-questions list is for. If you have trouble with a version of FreeBSD which is neither -current or -stable, questions is your friend > note: forwarded msg attached. I doubt many people would have seen this note in your original message. > I've tried everything I can think of... here are the msgs and the configs > i have and think may help. > >> netstat -r > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 209.180.227.6 UGSc 2 0 tun0 > localhost localhost UH 0 4 lo0 > 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 > 209.180.227.6 209.180.227.215 UH 3 0 tun0 > > Please don't wrap log file contents (just the opposite of normal text :-) > Nov 29 19:04:30 rryttie /kernel: ed1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:3:0 > Nov 29 19:04:30 rryttie /kernel: ed1: address 00:20:78:10:c9:be, type NE2000 (16 bit) > Nov 29 19:04:30 rryttie /kernel: ed0 not found at 0x280 > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.my.domain myname.my.domain > 192.168.1.1 rryttie rryttie.fm-net.com # FreeBSD System > 192.168.1.2 larry larry.fm-net.com # Windows '95 Laptop System > This is so corrupted that I can't guess what it was intended to be. > hostnameÿryttie.fm-net.com" # Set this! > network_interfacesÿo0 ed1 tun0" # List of network interfaces (lo0 is > loopback). > ifconfig_lo0ÿnet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. > ifconfig_ed1ÿnet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ### Network routing options: ### > defaultrouterÿO" # Set to default gateway (or NO). > static_routesÿ # Set to static route list (or leave empty). > gateway_enableÿES" # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway. > router_enableÿO" # Set to YES to enable a routing daemon. > routerÿO" # Name of routing daemon to use if enabled. > router_flagsÿq" # Flags for routing daemon. > mrouted_enableÿO" # Do multicast routing (see /etc/mrouted.conf). > mrouted_flagsÿ # Flags for multicast routing daemon. > ipxgateway_enableÿO" # Set to YES to enable IPX routing. > ipxrouted_enableÿO" # Set to YES to run the IPX routing daemon. > ipxrouted_flagsÿ # Flags for IPX routing daemon. > arpproxy_allÿ # replaces obsolete kernel option ARP_PROXYALL. > forward_sourcerouteÿO" # do source routing (only if gateway_enable is set to > "YES") > accept_sourcerouteÿO" # accept source routed packets to us > natd_enableÿO" # Enable natd if firewall_enable. > natd_interfaceÿxp0" # Public interface to use with natd if > natd_enable. > natd_flagsÿ # Additional flags for natd. > > Also Isn't it about time you describe your problem? > it may be of interest that the 'windows' netstat -e which shows the > activity of the ethernet device shows that the windows ethernet controller > has recieved 8401 bytes sent 552 bytes. has sent and recieved 6 unicast > packets has recieved and sent 108 non-unicast packets sent 108 discards > claims to have 0 errors and has recieved 117 unknown protocols. Not really. First we need a description of your problem. In general, mistrust the Microsoft machine. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 18:47:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05734 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:47:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sims-ha.videotron.net (faure.videotron.net [205.151.222.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05728 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:47:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jedix@videotron.ca) Received: from videotron.ca (modemcable252.205.mmtl.videotron.net) by sims-ha.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.09.21.23.34) with ESMTP id <0F370077HROXA5@sims-ha.videotron.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:46:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:48:44 -0500 From: Jo Subject: Ethernet conflict X-Sender: "Jo" (Unverified) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3662078C.9A75F144@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr]C-NECCK (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just installed Freebsd on my pc. I got two ethernet (NE 2000) cards, one not pnp and the other pnp. I have put "controller pnp0" in the kernel for my pnp card. The line "device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr" is defined in the kernel. During boot process, the pc found: - "ed1 rev 0x00 int at irq 10 on pci0.11.0" - "ed1 at 0x280-0x29f irq 9 on isa" Then he say : ed0 not probed du to I/O address conflict with ed1 at 0x280. Can you tell me what I need to adjust in the kernel to regulate my ethernet cards detection? (I hope to have ed1 and ed2 detected) Thanks, Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 19:06:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07447 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:06:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cliff.mfn.org (cliff.mfn.org [204.238.179.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07441 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:06:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from measl@mfn.org) X-Message1: Missouri FreeNet does not relay. If this email X-Message2: is unsolicited bulk or commercial, please report X-Message3: this abuse promptly to abuse@mfn.org. Thank You. X-ORIGINIP: 204.238.179.36 X-ORIGINDNS: support.mfn.org Received: from support.mfn.org (support.mfn.org [204.238.179.36]) by cliff.mfn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA00777 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:06:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from measl@mfn.org) Posted-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:06:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:06:13 -0600 (CST) From: Missouri FreeNet Administration To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IPFW Message: "...Deny P:54 ..." Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good Evening, I am sitting here watching a *large* screen of the following messages... ipfw: 65500 Deny P:54 24.88.34.57 204.238.179.10 What does the "P:54" mean? We've been using IPFW for about 6 months now, and have never seen it, but I am rather uncomfortable watching the screen scroll message after message... Please respond directly, as I am not subscribed... Thank you. J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 19:08:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07630 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:06:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (tnt3-212.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07456 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:06:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by n4hhe.ampr.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00960; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:05:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199811300305.VAA00960@n4hhe.ampr.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stormy Henderson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: chat script for dialing pppd In-reply-to: Message from Stormy Henderson of "Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:20:25 CST." <19981129102025.A2564@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:05:23 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stormy Henderson writes: > A happy camper (David Kelly, dkelly@HiWAAY.net) once wrote... > > But now my chat script for dialing pppd broke. > > > > Now have it working well enough to dial out but for some reason it > > takes 19 seconds before the modem dials. Confirmed with ps that chat is > > rnning > > Me too...with 3.0-19981123-SNAP and 3.0-CURRENT kernel of 11/28. I've > tried chat scripts as simple as "'' atz" and it still delays. Had other problems too, minor in comparision. Quiting exmh, the window hung. Then on revisiting the xterm exmh was started from found a message, "Process stopped, awaiting tty input" or some such. Foregrounding the exmh process allowed it to finish. The cure to both exmh and chat? # cd /usr/src # cvs -q checkout -D 11/16/98 sys # cvs -q checkout -D 11/16/98 lkm Then build and install new kernel and lkm's. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 19:41:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11250 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:41:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11245 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:41:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kesuki@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19981130034307.19849.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.180.227.132] by send205.yahoomail.com; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:43:07 PST Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ryan Ryttie Subject: Re: Fwd: Undeliverable Message To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: ---Greg Lehey wrote: > > [Format autorecovered at freebie.lemis.com] > > On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 17:51:04 -0800, Ryan Ryttie wrote: > > I've tried everything I can think of... here are the msgs and the configs > > i have and think may help. > > > >> netstat -r > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > default 209.180.227.6 UGSc 2 0 tun0 > > localhost localhost UH 0 4 lo0 > > 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 > > 209.180.227.6 209.180.227.215 UH 3 0 tun0 > > > > > > Please don't wrap log file contents (just the opposite of normal text > :-) > > > Nov 29 19:04:30 rryttie /kernel: ed1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:3:0 > > Nov 29 19:04:30 rryttie /kernel: ed1: address 00:20:78:10:c9:be, type NE2000 (16 bit) > > Nov 29 19:04:30 rryttie /kernel: ed0 not found at 0x280 > > > > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.my.domain myname.my.domain > > 192.168.1.1 rryttie rryttie.fm-net.com # FreeBSD System > > 192.168.1.2 larry larry.fm-net.com # Windows '95 Laptop System > > > > > This is so corrupted that I can't guess what it was intended to be. if you're talking about the config it was not corrupted when I sent. hostname="rryttie.fm-net.com" # Set this! network_interfaces="lo0 ed1 tun0" # List of network interfaces (lo0 is loopback). ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. ifconfig_ed1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ### Network routing options: ### defaultrouter="NO" # Set to default gateway (or NO). static_routes="" # Set to static route list (or leave empty). gateway_enable="YES" # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway. router_enable="NO" # Set to YES to enable a routing daemon. router="NO" # Name of routing daemon to use if enabled. router_flags="-q" # Flags for routing daemon. mrouted_enable="NO" # Do multicast routing (see /etc/mrouted.conf). mrouted_flags="" # Flags for multicast routing daemon. ipxgateway_enable="NO" # Set to YES to enable IPX routing. ipxrouted_enable="NO" # Set to YES to run the IPX routing daemon. ipxrouted_flags="" # Flags for IPX routing daemon. arpproxy_all="" # replaces obsolete kernel option ARP_PROXYALL. forward_sourceroute="NO" # do source routing (only if gateway_enable is set to "YES") accept_sourceroute="NO" # accept source routed packets to us natd_enable="NO" # Enable natd if firewall_enable. natd_interface="fxp0" # Public interface to use with natd if natd_enable. natd_flags="" # Additional flags for natd. > > Also > Isn't it about time you describe your problem? I tried to, but here are some more details. I am using BNC my ethernet cards are Linksys PCI and Linksys PCMCIA. I have been trying to configure some sort of LAN where by I could copy needed files from the win95 laptop so that I might delete one of the partitions and then have room to install freebsd. I already had quite a difficult time configuring the windows machine, however as near as I can tell it is working correctly. Windows is aware of everything the ethernet card is doing and is trying to connect with the freebsd machine. Both the windows machine and the freeBSd machine can ping their localhost. the windows machine, named larry can ping itself via the the ethernet card. the freebsd machine names rryttie can also ping itself. neither machine can ping the other, nor will either establish ftp connections which i have tried to use to test the connection. one last piece of info i thought of. > ifconfig -a ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:20:78:10:c9:be lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1524 inet 209.180.227.132 --> 209.180.227.4 netmask 0xffffff00 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > it may be of interest that the 'windows' netstat -e which shows the > > activity of the ethernet device shows that the windows ethernet controller > > has recieved 8401 bytes sent 552 bytes. has sent and recieved 6 unicast > > packets has recieved and sent 108 non-unicast packets sent 108 discards > > claims to have 0 errors and has recieved 117 unknown protocols. > > Not really. First we need a description of your problem. In general, > mistrust the Microsoft machine. I do generally mistrust the windows machine however i'm using some very cheap ethernet cards because they are all I have. And to me it looks like the windows machine is functioning correctly. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 19:50:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11947 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elmls02.ce.mediaone.net (elmls02.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11932 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from esuchocki@mediaone.net) Received: from 9zt3t (d160-246.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.160.246]) by elmls02.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA17060 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:49:51 -0600 (CST) From: "Ed Suchocki" To: Subject: Frustrated with bsd Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:50:25 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know that many people are using Free Bsd in their systems. I'm curious how these people have been able to figure where to start in using the system. I was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be found. How to download the software is as clear as mud. A person must be completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and install it. If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no great help either. This operating system is only good to those who already know it! If you know of any sites or books that discuss the features of FreeBSD and have examples of how to use FTP to download it, I would appreciate the information. I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an ftp file transfer (no reference in help). Frustrated in Chicago, ejs614@flash.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 19:50:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12005 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:50:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.cs.unm.edu (enterprise.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11993 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from viper.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.25] by enterprise.cs.unm.edu with smtp (Exim 1.80 #2) id 0zkKLd-0005Be-00; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:50:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:51:05 -0700 (MST) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound and my Dell Lattitude CPi (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG boy, am I starting to feel like a broken record. I just can't seem to get a handle on this sound thing for my Dell Lattitude. Current Setup: FreeBSD trurl 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 28 17:38:43 MST 1998 root@trurl:/usr/src/sys/compile/TRURL i386 on a Dell Lattitude CPi >From the kernel config file: device pcm0 at isa ? port ? tty irq 5 drq 0 vector pcmintr When I check /dev/sndstat I get: FreeBSD Audio Driver (981022) Nov 28 1998 17:38:29 Installed devices: pcm0: at 0x220 irq 5 dma 0:0 The devices look like this: trurl 7 % ls -l /dev/audio* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Nov 27 21:38 /dev/audio@ -> audio0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 4 Nov 29 16:32 /dev/audio0 trurl 8 % ls -l /dev/dsp* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Nov 27 21:38 /dev/dsp@ -> dsp0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 3 Nov 28 17:16 /dev/dsp0 . . . lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 5 Nov 27 21:38 /dev/dspW@ -> dspW0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 5 Nov 27 21:38 /dev/dspW0 My Problem: I can't get anything to play out through /dev/audio or /dev/dsp, whenever I try and send something to /dev/audio (like a .au file) I get: Nov 29 16:47:41 trurl /kernel: timeout flushing dbuf_out, chan 0 cnt 0x3dd flags 0x00000441 in /var/log/messages. and when I run anything that uses the dsp I get the following: Message from syslogd@trurl at Sun Nov 29 16:50:37 1998 ... trurl /kernel: SoundBlaster Pro 3.2>0 open: device busy As near as I can tell the condenser microphone is on and piping output to the speakers so that I can hear myself type. I have checked this by plugging in headphones and covering my ears and that is what I can hear. I can also get the mic/speakers to feedback if I turn up the volume too loud. This behaviour is not constant, it doesn't happen when the machine is booted under NT and it doesn't start until I see the pcm0 device detected in the boot sequence. So, either I have something set wrong in the BIOS, but I don't think I do. Or I have something accessing the devices and not allowing other applications to use the mic or the speakers. Does anyone know how I might check to see what I might have that could be doing this? Are there known applications that might cause this kind of trouble? I really would like to get SpeakFreely up and working and I would like to be able to use sound out for things like music and sound effects. Any insight on this would be appreciated. Thanks Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ "As Jun [Murai] explains it, `I can go to the bar and drink beer. I go to a phone and ping my routers, and if they are still working, I go back and drink more beer.'" Carl Malamud _Exploring_the_Internet_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 19:58:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12803 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:58:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luvewe.ops.us.eglobe.com (luvewe.ops.us.eglobe.com [198.93.57.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA12798 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slayer@luvewe.ops.us.eglobe.com) Received: (qmail 13823 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Nov 1998 03:58:39 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:58:38 -0700 (MST) From: Graey To: Ed Suchocki cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd In-Reply-To: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Ed Suchocki wrote: > > I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an > ftp file transfer (no reference in help). Finally, a question that I can answer ;) First of all I dont know of any online FBSD manuals except for the ones on the bsd webpage, but I do know about ftping with MSIE... just click on it and it prompts you to save it to disk. That's basically the same thing, just a lot slower. If you must ftp it, I suggest (this assumes you're using windows) finding WS_FTP. A list of FTP sites that have freebsd can be found on http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook337.html#687 Most of them are listed as ftp://something, just plug the host/domain part into the 'host name' section in ws_ftp and plug the path into 'remote host' in the 'intitial directories' section of ws_ftp. Click the 'anonymous login' box and click 'ok'. All this will be clear once you actually are looking at ws_ftp. The helpfiles in ws_ftp are relatively clear. Good luck. - Graey ----------------------------- | slayer@luvewe.eglobe.com | | luvewe.eglobe.com/~slayer | ----------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:00:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13130 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13108 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA09297; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:29:47 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id OAA00882; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:29:45 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981130142945.L431@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:29:45 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Ed Suchocki , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd References: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net>; from Ed Suchocki on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:50:25PM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 X-Mutt-References: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 21:50:25 -0600, Ed Suchocki wrote: > I know that many people are using Free Bsd in their systems. I'm curious how > these people have been able to figure where to start in using the system. I > was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be > found. How to download the software is as clear as mud. A person must be > completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and > install it. If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a > better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to > install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no > great help either. Which books are you thinking of? > This operating system is only good to those who already know it! > > If you know of any sites or books that discuss the features of FreeBSD and > have examples of how to use FTP to download it, I would appreciate the > information. > > I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an > ftp file transfer (no reference in help). It looks like your problem is Microsoft, not FreeBSD. Join the club. There's a little-known MS-DOS mode program called FTP, which will do just what you want it to do. In fact, if you had the tools on Microsoft, you could find that it is, in fact, a variant of BSD ftp. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:00:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13153 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:00:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from digital.noc.hiatt.net (cx80894-b.alsv1.occa.home.com [24.1.171.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13145 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:00:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from william@corp.hiatt.net) Received: from corp.hiatt.net (client-pc1@anthrax.noc.hiatt.net [24.1.173.119]) by digital.noc.hiatt.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1a-digital) with ESMTP id UAA11164; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:00:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3662184E.178517F1@corp.hiatt.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:00:14 -0800 From: "William H. Hiatt III" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG CC: Suchocki@corp.hiatt.net Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd References: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well actually two things. A) Just make a boot disk, and install it from there. Instrucatinos are clear on the webpage, it's not that hard B) You see, Linux is EXACTLY what you described below, and more appropiately, if you aint' got a clue, and do most Linux users have a clue? Not really.? If you need to get one, goto redhat.com, if you can't figure it out then.. well I don't know. Heh, I mean, I use Linux, but I also use Solaris, BSDi, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD. P.S. I'm not trying to make this a flame or anything... Don't get me wrong..I'm just saying it complicates me when it's right there on the webpage. Ed Suchocki wrote: > I know that many people are using Free Bsd in their systems. I'm curious how > these people have been able to figure where to start in using the system. I > was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be > found. How to download the software is as clear as mud. A person must be > completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and > install it. If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a > better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to > install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no > great help either. This operating system is only good to those who already > know it! > > If you know of any sites or books that discuss the features of FreeBSD and > have examples of how to use FTP to download it, I would appreciate the > information. > > I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an > ftp file transfer (no reference in help). > > Frustrated in Chicago, > > ejs614@flash.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:12:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13831 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:12:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from maxcow.borg.com (MaxCow.borg.com [205.217.206.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13825 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@borg.com) Received: from mail.borg.com (mail.borg.com [205.217.206.192]) by maxcow.borg.com (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20261; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mark (L194B.borg.com [206.98.37.194]) by mail.borg.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA11524; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:11:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981129231309.006ae044@mail.borg.com> X-Sender: mark@mail.borg.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:13:11 -0500 To: "Ed Suchocki" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Mark S. Reichman" Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The absolute best way for any newbie to get FreeBSD up and running it to order the Cdroms. You can also order "The Complete FreeBSD", a book written by Greg Lehey, who posts to this list often. Go to www.freebsd.org and look for directions on ordering FreeBSD on Cdrom. After you play with it for awhile cvsup'ing, IMHO, is the best way to update to the most recent -release. Any of the Freenix's are tough to learn. I learned at college. We had/have an entire network of FreeBSD machines there. Secondly, I'm not sure you will ever learn it all. Also, IMHO, freenix's are not made for the everyday "point and click commando." Your granny is not gonna figure this out for sure, no matter what GUI you put in front of her. At 09:50 PM 11/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >I know that many people are using Free Bsd in their systems. I'm curious how >these people have been able to figure where to start in using the system. I >was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be >found. How to download the software is as clear as mud. A person must be >completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and >install it. If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a >better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to >install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no >great help either. This operating system is only good to those who already >know it! > > If you know of any sites or books that discuss the features of FreeBSD and >have examples of how to use FTP to download it, I would appreciate the >information. > >I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an >ftp file transfer (no reference in help). > >Frustrated in Chicago, > >ejs614@flash.net > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > \|/ (@ @) +----------oOO----(_)-----------------+ | Mark S. Reichman | | mark@borg.com | | | +----------------------oOO------------+ |__|__| || || ooO Ooo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:20:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14675 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgateway.stc.sh.cn ([203.95.0.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA14613 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:19:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zhwpeng@stc.sh.cn) Received: from stc.sh.cn by mailgateway.stc.sh.cn (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA19494; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 03:18:14 +0800 Received: from ns.stc.sh.cn by stc.sh.cn (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA03245; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:19:20 +0800 Received: by ns.stc.sh.cn with Microsoft Mail id <01BE1C5A.78F1CEE0@ns.stc.sh.cn>; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:10:51 +-800 Message-ID: <01BE1C5A.78F1CEE0@ns.stc.sh.cn> From: Peng ZhengWen To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: How to print Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:09:55 +-800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wonder how to print file to HP LaserJet 5L using lp under FreeBSD 2.2.5?I appreciate your help. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:30:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15296 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:30:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iway1.iw.net (iway1.iw.net [204.157.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15291 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:30:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dragonknight@dtgnet.com) Received: from death (rap-dialup-12.dtgnet.com [216.16.6.12] (may be forged)) by iway1.iw.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12851; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:29:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001c01be1c19$a918fda0$0101a8c0@death> From: "Dragon Knight" To: "Ed Suchocki" , Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:26:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I know that many people are using Free Bsd in their systems. I'm curious how >these people have been able to figure where to start in using the system. I >was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be >found. How to download the software is as clear as mud. A person must be >completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and >install it. If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a >better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to >install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no >great help either. This operating system is only good to those who already >know it! Hrmm... C:\>mkdir freebsd C:\>cd freebsd C:\freebsd>ftp ftp.cdrom.com Connected to wcarchive.cdrom.com. 220 wcarchive.cdrom.com FTP server (Version DG-3.1.24 Mon Oct 19 00:05:06 PDT 1998) ready. User (wcarchive.cdrom.com:(none)): ---put "anonymous" in here 331 Guest login ok, send your email address as password. Password: ---now put in your e-mail address 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. ftp> now type "cd .2/FreeBSD/2.2.7-RELEASE" then type "binary" then type "prompt" ftp> binary 200 Type set to I. ftp> prompt Interactive mode Off then type "mget *" This would get the ENTIRE 2.2.7-RELEASE of FreeBSD including the packages. It would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of a gigabyte or so. (i think). if you are on a modem get all the directories except the packages directory. Although it is easier to use Bullet Proof or CuteFTP than get it this way. > > If you know of any sites or books that discuss the features of FreeBSD and >have examples of how to use FTP to download it, I would appreciate the >information. > >I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an >ftp file transfer (no reference in help). > >Frustrated in Chicago, > I ordered The Complete FreeBSD from Walnut Creek, read it 3 times or so, then read just about every text file i could find about installing and setting up FreeBSD and it installed from a DOS partition in less than 30 minutes and ran just peachily. It is quite easy to get the OS set up and learn the basics unless you are a complete idiot. In which case i suggest you order a RedHat linux CD. I hear the new version 5.2 is easier to install than ever. Samuel Greear To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:34:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15687 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:34:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from drwho.xnet.com (drwho.xnet.com [205.243.140.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15679 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:34:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drwho@drwho.xnet.com) Received: (from drwho@localhost) by drwho.xnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24014 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:34:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from drwho) Message-ID: <19981129223416.A23715@drwho.xnet.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:34:16 -0600 From: Michael Maxwell To: Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Mail-Followup-To: References: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net>; from Ed Suchocki on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:50:25PM -0600 X-Useless-Header: http://www.xnet.com/~drwho/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:50:25PM -0600, Ed Suchocki wrote: > I know that many people are using Free Bsd in their systems. I'm curious how > these people have been able to figure where to start in using the system. I > was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be > found. How to download the software is as clear as mud. A person must be > completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and You don't need to have a great deal of knowledge about the subject. If nothing else, you should just have an idea about what you plan to DO with your system once you have it all installed. Of course, this line of reasoning should apply to anything; why have it if you don't know what to do with it? Are you using it for: a) business/database server/etc...? b) Internet server? c) Desktop? d) Development? > install it. If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a > better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to > install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no > great help either. This operating system is only good to those who already > know it! Well, to a certain extent, this is true: Unix suffers from this problem. You really need to read up on Unix and systems administration in general before attempting to USE unix -- especially if you'll be the maintainer of the system. Unix is a very complex system (and its complexity is really the beauty of it: it's entirely modular). I, for one, can't say I want to SEE BSD become a "mainstream" OS. If BSD goes "mainstream", then the same thing that happened to Linux will happen to BSD: it will become another "dummy" system. Unix is for the more sophisticated when it comes to computers -- you have to be willing to LEARN how to use the system and how to expand it so it becomes useful for YOU -- otherwise, you just have a couple hundred MB of programs and utilities that you'll never use or even understand. In general: Unix isn't a desktop OS (though this doesn't mean it can't be used as one -- after all, Unix can do just about anything). > I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an > ftp file transfer (no reference in help). ---end quoted text--- And this is a good example: MS shields the user from the system. In this case, you want to batch-download multiple files... let's see you do that in IE (or Netscape for that matter). The end result is complete lack of productivity by using a system that is completely inflexible. Ok, do you have an ISP that has shell access? If so, you can login to that and use the fairly simple "ncftp" program (if they have it) to login to ftp.freebsd.org and download all the files you need in one command: "get *" -- drwho @ xnet.com, BOFH -- http://www.xnet.com/~drwho/ V xabj jub lbh ner. V fnj jung lbh qvq. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:43:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16082 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:43:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dqc.org (dqc.org [12.7.119.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16077 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:43:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mkultra@dqc.org) Received: from localhost (mkultra@localhost) by dqc.org (8.9.1a/dqc/OpenBSD) with ESMTP id UAA15687 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:46:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:46:20 -0800 (PST) From: Keyser Soze To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 3.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is FreeBSD 3.0 considered to be the new "STABLE" branch? I'm planning a new installation and was wondering which one to go with. Thanks.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:48:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16377 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:48:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16372 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:48:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cweimann@server1.wallnet.com) Received: (from cweimann@localhost) by server1.wallnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA25533; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:48:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981129234824.D24446@wallnet.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:48:24 -0500 From: "Christopher S. Weimann" To: Ed Suchocki , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd References: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net>; from Ed Suchocki on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:50:25PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:50:25PM -0600, Ed Suchocki wrote: > I was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be > found. Where did you look? > How to download the software is as clear as mud. Go to http://www.freebsd.org and scroll down the page till you get to the section called "Easy to install". Follow the link called "these directions" which will take you to http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html then read this page. Step 3 on this page has a link to "installation boot disk image". Click on it to download the file via ftp ( yes even in MSIE ). Step 4 on this page has a link to fdimage.exe. Click on it to download. ( once again even with MSIE ). You now have everything you need to get FreeBSD installed. Follow the rest of the instructions on that page to create a boot disk. This boot disk will download everything over your modem ( or network connection if you are that lucky ). I don't think I told you anything here that isn't obvious from the page. > A person must be > completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and > install it. You don't need anything but your web browser to get everything you need to install FreeBSD. > If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a > better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to > install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no > great help either. The first time I installed ANY unix like system it was FreeBSD and I followed the handbook installation page instructions. There is a link to it right from the main page. > This operating system is only good to those who already > know it! > I don't know how to say this nicely but if you can't figure out how to click on a link to download a file you don't even know your own operating system. You might not have gotten Windows to install if you had to download it. A good choice might be to go to www.cdrom.com and order some FreeBSD CD-Roms. > If you know of any sites or books that discuss the features of FreeBSD and > have examples of how to use FTP to download it, I would appreciate the > information. > www.cdrom.com has an Excellent package called The Complete FreeBSD is a big book and set of CDRoms to install from. > I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an > ftp file transfer (no reference in help). > If you wanted to access ftp.freebsd.org you would put in the address ftp://ftp.freebsd.org. This is the same for just about any other ftp site as well. For example to go to Microsofts FTP site you would put in the address ftp://ftp.microsoft.com. Good luck! -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher Weimann SysAdmin Wall Internet LLC. Email: cweimann@wallnet.com PO Box 255 Web: http://www.wallnet.com/~cweimann Manasquan NJ, 08736 732-223-1777 ------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:50:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16443 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:50:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16437 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 7506 invoked from network); 30 Nov 1998 04:49:47 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 1998 04:49:47 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:49:47 -0600 (CST) From: John Sconiers To: Ed Suchocki cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd In-Reply-To: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I know that many people are using Free Bsd in their systems. I'm curious how > these people have been able to figure where to start in using the system. I > was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be > found. How to download the software is as clear as mud. A person must be > completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and > install it. If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a > better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to > install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no > great help either. This operating system is only good to those who already > know it! The best way to start off is to order the cdrom set that comes with the book. This explains everything and walks you through most questions plus a lot easier than downloading. A few things you need to consider is that you'll probably want to partition your hard drive so you can switch back and forth between Windows and FreeBSD until you get comfortable enough to just switch completely. > If you know of any sites or books that discuss the features of FreeBSD and > have examples of how to use FTP to download it, I would appreciate the > information. Save yourself a lot of trouble and just buy the cd-rom and book. I could even burn you a copy of the cdrom however you *STILL* would need the book. It's a must have when you first start off. You might also want to subscribe to a mailing list or two and get the essential system administration book by ORA. Last but not least make sure your hardware is compatible...it can save you a lot of pain. > I'm currently using MS Explorer 4.0 and I do not see any way of starting an > ftp file transfer (no reference in help). > Frustrated in Chicago, > ejs614@flash.net I'm in Chicago as well so if you'd like the cd-rom or have any questions I could help with let me know. JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 20:52:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16504 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16498 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:52:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 7808 invoked from network); 30 Nov 1998 04:52:06 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 1998 04:52:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:52:06 -0600 (CST) From: John Sconiers To: Keyser Soze cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is FreeBSD 3.0 considered to be the new "STABLE" branch? > I'm planning a new installation and was wondering which one to go with. > Thanks.. 2.2.7 is the stable version. JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 21:30:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18566 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:30:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18555 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:30:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cweimann@server1.wallnet.com) Received: (from cweimann@localhost) by server1.wallnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA26396; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:26:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981130002620.E24446@wallnet.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:26:20 -0500 From: "Christopher S. Weimann" To: Dragon Knight , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd References: <001c01be1c19$a918fda0$0101a8c0@death> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <001c01be1c19$a918fda0$0101a8c0@death>; from Dragon Knight on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:26:44PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:26:44PM -0700, Dragon Knight wrote: > > It is quite easy to get the OS set up and > learn the basics unless you are a complete idiot. In which case i suggest > you order a RedHat linux CD. I hear the new version 5.2 is easier to > install than ever. > I had the displeasure of installing a couple of different Linuxes ( Caldera and RedHat 5 ) and I have to say that I think FreeBSD's install is superior to both of them. Caldera couldn't find my network card and it was a real pain to tell it the io and irq for the card ( 0x300, 5 whats the big deal? ) and I haven't found a Linux site that provides anything of the quality of the FreeBSD handbook. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher Weimann SysAdmin Wall Internet LLC. Email: cweimann@wallnet.com PO Box 255 Web: http://www.wallnet.com/~cweimann Manasquan NJ, 08736 732-223-1777 ------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 21:35:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18949 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:35:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iway1.iw.net (iway1.iw.net [204.157.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18944 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:35:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dragonknight@dtgnet.com) Received: from death (rap-dialup-12.dtgnet.com [216.16.6.12] (may be forged)) by iway1.iw.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA21675; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:35:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601be1c22$d0eb4d20$0101a8c0@death> From: "Dragon Knight" To: "Christopher S. Weimann" , Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:32:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> It is quite easy to get the OS set up and >> learn the basics unless you are a complete idiot. In which case i suggest >> you order a RedHat linux CD. I hear the new version 5.2 is easier to >> install than ever. >> > >I had the displeasure of installing a couple of different Linuxes ( Caldera >and RedHat 5 ) and I have to say that I think FreeBSD's install is superior >to both of them. Caldera couldn't find my network card and it was a real >pain to tell it the io and irq for the card ( 0x300, 5 whats the big deal? ) >and I haven't found a Linux site that provides anything of the quality of >the FreeBSD handbook. > I only ran RedHat 5.1 for a few hours before deleting the partition, but i stuck in the CD and it was done, didn't read a single txt file or anything. although i do have hardware that is compatible with just about everything. now i do like the FreeBSD install much better but for a complete beginner i found the Redhat install easier. But thats just my opinion on the matter. Samuel Greear To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 21:44:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19659 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:44:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19654 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:44:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01061 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:44:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199811300544.AAA01061@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Appropriate Forum for Bug/Upgrade To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:44:56 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What would be the best place to point out a potential upgrade idea for the ports mechanism? The problem is a borderline between a bug and a absent feature. I think all I'm asking is for the re-wording of an error message. The "Problem:" I was just trying to download StarOffice to check it out when I got the following: % make >> StarOffice31-common.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/staroffice/. fetch: StarOffice31-common.tar.gz: Permission denied >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles//. fetch: StarOffice31-common.tar.gz: Permission denied >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Now, my first instinct was that the 'Permission denied' messages were coming from the ftp sites. However, after looking at the sites, I realized it wasn't the problem. When I did try to download them manually, I figured out the problem: I hadn't su'ed to root. (Doh!) I must admit that this was not the first time I made this mistake either. I think that problem could be more clearly indicated to the user. The 'Permission denied' could mention that the permission problem was writing on the /users/ machine, not the ftp site. Also, what's the point of trying to download it twice? If it didn't work the first time, it ain't gonna work the second. If anyone here has comments about this messaging issue please let me know. However, I am more interested in how to get this suggestion to the correct audience. Thanks. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 21:50:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20268 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20251 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:50:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA09841; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:20:18 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA01259; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:19:57 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981130161957.Y431@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:19:57 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: cjclark@home.com, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Appropriate Forum for Bug/Upgrade References: <199811300544.AAA01061@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199811300544.AAA01061@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>; from Crist J. Clark on Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 12:44:56AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 30 November 1998 at 0:44:56 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote: > What would be the best place to point out a potential upgrade idea for > the ports mechanism? That would be FreeBSD-ports. But read on. > The problem is a borderline between a bug and a > absent feature. I think all I'm asking is for the re-wording of an > error message. > > The "Problem:" I was just trying to download StarOffice to check it > out when I got the following: > >> make >>> StarOffice31-common.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >>> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/staroffice/. > fetch: StarOffice31-common.tar.gz: Permission denied >>> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles//. > fetch: StarOffice31-common.tar.gz: Permission denied >>> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this >>> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Now, my first instinct was that the 'Permission denied' messages were > coming from the ftp sites. However, after looking at the sites, I > realized it wasn't the problem. When I did try to download them > manually, I figured out the problem: I hadn't su'ed to root. (Doh!) I > must admit that this was not the first time I made this mistake either. > > I think that problem could be more clearly indicated to the user. The > 'Permission denied' could mention that the permission problem was > writing on the /users/ machine, not the ftp site. Also, what's the > point of trying to download it twice? If it didn't work the first > time, it ain't gonna work the second. I suppose there's some value in this. It's not a ports issue, though, it's a misfeature in fetch. ftp will tell you, for example, that you don't have create permission in the local directory. Try sending in a PR. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 22:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21738 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21733 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (ppp-109-71.mtl.aei.ca [207.107.109.71]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA19120; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:10:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3662368C.EE480579@aei.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:09:16 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Davidson CC: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: How to Resize Disk References: <36620440.F58C5925@idcomm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Davidson wrote: > > I am fairly new to FreeBSD and have installed 2.2.7 on a 1GB drive along > with XFree86 and KDE (+ it's utils, games etc.) and Netscape Communicator > 4.05. > > Having finally received my Complete FreeBSD book I started messing around a > little and decided to add me as a real user instead of using root. In the > process I ran out of disk space! That was quick! > > When I do df it says that / is at 109% Capacity, /usr is at 49%, /var is at > 7%, /proc is at 100% and /mnt is at 74% > > I am having problems now when I receive email - obviously it really is out > of space - and Netscape closes itself when I try and clean out my Trash > folder. > > Is there a command (I have not found) that will allow me to resize the > filesystem? What about a way to clean up the installation? Might there be > some temp files somewhere I can delete? > > Thanks, > Alex > Ok, I'm not a specialist, but what you say is like: 1) /root is mount on / (that's normal :-) 2) / is getting full because you use the dir /root to much: move files from /root to another user's dir (those files would then be in /usr/home/your_user) 3) Delete or move /root/.netscape to /usr/home/your_user. Run Netscape has a user, don't forget to empty the trash folder after each sessions. Netscape tend to !@#%$#@!% when the mail file is to big. 4) /usr is ok. 5) no need to resize the disk Thank You -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 22:18:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21980 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:18:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21966 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:17:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA10035; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:47:28 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA01525; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:47:28 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981130164727.E1447@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:47:27 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Alex Davidson , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: How to Resize Disk References: <36620440.F58C5925@idcomm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <36620440.F58C5925@idcomm.com>; from Alex Davidson on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:34:40PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 19:34:40 -0700, Alex Davidson wrote: > I am fairly new to FreeBSD and have installed 2.2.7 on a 1GB drive along > with XFree86 and KDE (+ it's utils, games etc.) and Netscape Communicator > 4.05. > > Having finally received my Complete FreeBSD book I started messing around a > little and decided to add me as a real user instead of using root. In the > process I ran out of disk space! That was quick! > > When I do df it says that / is at 109% Capacity, /usr is at 49%, /var is at > 7%, /proc is at 100% and /mnt is at 74% This is why the book recommends to have only two partitions. What do you have mounted on /mnt? That's normally used for temporary mounts. > I am having problems now when I receive email - obviously it really > is out of space - and Netscape closes itself when I try and clean > out my Trash folder. > > Is there a command (I have not found) that will allow me to resize the > filesystem? Not online. > What about a way to clean up the installation? Might there be > some temp files somewhere I can delete? Maybe, especially in the root file system. Take a look in /tmp. You could also go looking for .core files: # find . -name "*.core" Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 22:22:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22436 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:22:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22429 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15760; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:28:54 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19981130172853.A15528@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:28:53 +1100 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000001be1c14$904de420$f6a08318@9zt3t.ce.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from John Sconiers on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 10:49:47PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 10:49:47PM -0600, John Sconiers wrote: > > I know that many people are using Free Bsd in their systems. I'm curious how > > these people have been able to figure where to start in using the system. I > > was expecting to find some insight here on the web but there is none to be > > found. How to download the software is as clear as mud. A person must be > > completely familiar with FTP and Free BSD before attempting to download and > > install it. If Free bsd is to get into the main stream there must be a > > better way for people to get useful and clear information as to how to > > install and download this system. The books that I have found are of no > > great help either. This operating system is only good to those who already > > know it! > > > The best way to start off is to order the cdrom set that comes with the > book. This explains everything and walks you through most questions plus > a lot easier than downloading. A few things you need to consider is that > you'll probably want to partition your hard drive so you can switch back > and forth between Windows and FreeBSD until you get comfortable enough to > just switch completely. > this is about teh best advice on teh thread .. a few others have suggested going it tough, but that not waht a microsoft windows user is geared up for. when i first started unis 20 years ago and also 4 years ago after a 10 lear lapse .. it was hard going, even though i had some prior knowledge secondtime around. this doesn't meant its too hard, i'm a disabled person not teh wheelchair kindm but one with a broken brain that kankes it hard to remember, and to use eyes and hands in an orderly and efficient nammer, incider joke says that i'll never be a good us marine. one other thin i will highly recomend is to join freebsd-newbies this mailing list can be a real life saver fro first time berkeley unix users and expesially those from a microsoft windows background. -newbies, is a place to find out about finding out and teh howto of it as well. it can also show you what you need to find out. a really good place to find out, also aunty sue is nice person. > > > If you know of any sites or books that discuss the features of FreeBSD and > > have examples of how to use FTP to download it, I would appreciate the > > information. > > Save yourself a lot of trouble and just buy the cd-rom and book. I could > even burn you a copy of the cdrom however you *STILL* would need the book. > It's a must have when you first start off. You might also want to > subscribe to a mailing list or two and get the essential system > administration book by ORA. Last but not least make sure your hardware is > compatible...it can save you a lot of pain. > while i have, e frish's book, and g lehey's as well, teh former is teh better written of teh two from a 'learning' perspective. greg, wrote teh 'teh complete freebsd v2' as one big how-to. this is good when you get familiar with the words but can be a but awe inspiring till yo get teh basic definitiuons down and learnt. on teh other hand, miss frish has wriiten a good starters guide to basic system administration, it is not freebsd (or even berkeley unix) specific and leave teh reader (espcially if tehy are new and don;t understand thet they don;t know yet) hung out to dry inplace, that is just hanging thier wondering how they got thier. also its an o'riely book set to make money and so tehy sweep teh field and don't clearly enough delineate the sometimes significant difference in philosphy twix teh various unicies. yes, freebsd-newbies a good place to be and to start teh whole freebsd experience. another suggestion, that would help a real lot, is that od finding a local berkeley unix user group, or get a couple of like minded people together on a saterday afternoon in teh local library reading room and just discuss problmes, dreams goals and 'war stories', this is about teh quickest way to learn, and one of teh most enjoyable. regards jonathan ps, please excuse teh typing and teh spelling, what my uncordinated muscles don't messup my dsylexia sure does. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 22:23:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22519 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:23:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22514 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:23:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA20208; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:23:23 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19981130172316.02656@welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:23:17 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: ML Duke Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spreadsheet? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from ML Duke on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 11:06:12AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 11:06:12AM -0700, ML Duke wrote: > In preparation for making a bid for a software installation/upgrade > monitoring and reporting contract, I went to both ports and the > cdrom.com archives looking for a package such as a spreadsheet > that can track tasks, times, behind schedule (which is what it > will be) and etc.. > > Any suggestions?? Before giving up, see how much of what you want can be done by the bells and whistles of xmbase-grok, it's in the ports as a database for X. Its file format lends itself well to running scripts on the data too. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 22:38:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23397 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:38:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23389 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:38:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (ppp-109-71.mtl.aei.ca [207.107.109.71]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20895; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:37:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36623D06.54B454BC@aei.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:36:54 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Blakey-Milner CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird problem with "talk" about an "Unknown host". Both user are logged on the same machine! References: <3660A1F0.A1C246F4@aei.ca> <19981129124434.A9959@rucus.ru.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > On Sat 1998-11-28 (20:22), Malartre wrote: > > http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/talk.html > > > > $ uname -a > > FreeBSD f00f.org 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 21 > > 03:37:08 EST 1998 root@f00f.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/F00F i386 > > $ who am I > > toto ttyv0 28 nov 20:01 > > $ who > > toto ttyv0 28 nov 20:01 > > elvis ttyv9 28 nov 20:04 > > $ talk elvis ttyv9 > > talk: f00f.org: Unknown host > > > > toto try to "talk" with elvis, but the system (whose name is f00f.org) > > try to find the host "f00f.org". But f00f.org is the system's name... > > Both user did "mesg y". > > > > What's wrong? > > Just put f00f.org into your /etc/hosts, and change the order of bind, then > hosts to hosts, then bind, in your host.conf. > > Putting f00f.org to 127.0.0.1 should be ok, but if it has a permanent network > card and IP address, put it to that IP address. > > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za Hi I did that: /etc/host.conf # Default is to use the nameserver first # bind # If that doesn't work, then try the /etc/hosts file hosts bind And then did that: /etc/hosts # 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.my.domain myname.my.domain 127.0.0.1 f00f.org Well, I don't really understand what's the difference between localhost, localhost.my.domain and myname.my.domain [No connection yet] [Checking for invitation on caller's machine] What should I put in that? PS: I did a kill -HUP 1 before testing the new config PPS: I did read the hosts man page. -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 22:38:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23531 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:38:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from net.afps.chel.su (AFPS-SUrNet.ll.surnet.ru [195.54.2.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23408 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:38:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wnv@afps.chel.ru) Received: from afps.chel.su (ois4.afps.chel.su [195.54.22.33]) by net.afps.chel.su (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29743 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:38:07 +0500 (ES) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:38:06 +0500 From: Vladimir Vinokurov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.15) UNREG Reply-To: Vladimir Vinokurov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17484.981130@afps.chel.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello ! Please say me ! I'm very bad english ! You speak in russian ? Best regards, Vladimir mailto:wnv@afps.chel.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 22:42:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23803 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:42:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23796 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:42:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15806; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:49:05 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19981130174904.C15528@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:49:04 +1100 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Curious about what happens during boot. Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <01be1bfa$fdc6f100$ba80b7d1@vidbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <01be1bfa$fdc6f100$ba80b7d1@vidbox>; from Marko's Work on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:47:22PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:47:22PM -0500, Marko's Work wrote: > With FreeBSD, what script is run first (upon boot) in the /etc directory? > With dos, config.sys and autoexec.bat are run after > command.com, but in FreeBSD what comes after running the kernel? > I would like to trace the whole procedure to become familiar with it. > in teh book teh complete freebsd, ed2 thier is a good expanation of teh whole bootup sequence .. umm i should know where it is, also where my copu of teh book is also, grin sorry marko, greg, i should know better than saying it in teh book. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 22:58:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25158 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:58:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from faust.moldsat.md (faust.moldsat.md [212.0.213.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25057 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:57:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@moldsat.md) Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by faust.moldsat.md (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21987; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:55:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from andy@moldsat.md) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:55:36 +0200 (EET) From: Andrey Tchoritch To: Vladimir Vinokurov cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <17484.981130@afps.chel.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Vladimir Vinokurov wrote: > Please say me ! I'm very bad english ! > > You speak in russian ? There are many russian speaking people. Also you could attend fido7.ru.unix.bsd You may mail directly to me your questions. be good, andy [teem freedom] siteOP áÄÍÉÎ ÉÚÍÅÎÉ×ÛÉÍÓÑ ÌÉÃÏÍ ÂÅÖÉÔ ËÏÎÓÏÌÉ Some users are alive only because it's illegal to kill them To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 23:27:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27564 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (web4.rocketmail.com [205.180.57.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27542 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:27:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jm911@rocketmail.com) Message-ID: <19981130072413.8465.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [203.108.83.170] by web4; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:24:13 PST Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:24:13 -0800 (PST) From: hack the planet Subject: networking ? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG heya i was wondering if this was possible : say i have a 10mbit/s link to the internet and i co-host a box right, and both my computer and the box i am co-locating have a 10mb network card, is there anyway of making it so it will only transfer data to the other computer at like 500kbits or something ??? is there a way of limiting the bandwith that goes through the network to a certain computers ??? thanks heaps Justin _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 23:35:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28285 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:35:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from citycom.com (mail.citycom.com [207.171.207.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28051 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:32:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nordwick@citycom.com) Received: from yasmeen (38.28.60.226) by citycom.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:30:03 -0800 Message-ID: <007901be1c32$7dee8a00$e53c1c26@yasmeen.citycom.com> From: "Jason Nordwick" To: "Christopher S. Weimann" , "Ed Suchocki" , Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:09:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Go to http://www.freebsd.org and scroll down the page till you get to >the section called "Easy to install". > These directions suck. I have often had similar questions as to how to installed from a DOS disk... like what had to be d/l and where to put it. >You now have everything you need to get FreeBSD installed. Follow the rest >of the instructions on that page to create a boot disk. This boot disk >will download everything over your modem ( or network connection if you >are that lucky ). > Doing a d/l from the boot disk is this: first it is very suseptible to modem problems and other errors (like computer going down when 90% done), second it really provides to really good feedback as to when it will be done, third, you cannot keep the d/l files for a later installed (such as I have time to d/l but not install). >I don't think I told you anything here that isn't obvious from the page. > Nothing is "obvious" from the page. Obvious to you is not obvious to me. I agree, FreeBSD, is fucking hell to learn to install. >Christopher Weimann SysAdmin Wall Internet LLC. Hmm... a sysadmin... and you think that you are even qualified to decide what is easy to install for the rest of us that don't spend our life on administating a computer? Don't say stupid shit like "I don't know how to say this..." or "obvious" until you really sit down and think... hmmm... What would a person completely new to UNIX-style system and installing OSes in general know. Arghh... I used to be a very strong FBSD prophet, but now after coming back to it after six months, my initial install of -current went horribly; half of the ports I have tried to install have had at least one problem (if not multiple, for example www/netscape45-communicator); user-PPP is a bitch to setup, use, and find information on. I could go on for a while with this list. If anybody really wants the system to get into the mainstream (I actually don't care if it does), then there are alot of changes that need to be made. If I knew anything about PPP I'd do one that could actually determine what port you are trying to use, what the authentication method is, blah blah blah. I'm getting tired of all the ego tripping around here. Everybody thinks that they have a dope-ass system under them, and there is not enough people that realize that you have to make parts easier (not dumbdown). This self- congradulatory attitude will leave FBSD in the dust. Too many people are too easily satisfied... dream a little more people. -jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 23:45:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29266 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from faust.moldsat.md (faust.moldsat.md [212.0.213.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29257 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:45:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@moldsat.md) Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by faust.moldsat.md (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24325; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:42:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from andy@moldsat.md) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:42:41 +0200 (EET) From: Andrey Tchoritch To: hack the planet cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: networking ? In-Reply-To: <19981130072413.8465.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, hack the planet wrote: > > say i have a 10mbit/s link to the internet > and i co-host a box right, > and both my computer and the box i am co-locating have a 10mb network > card, is there anyway of making it so it will only transfer data to > the other computer at like 500kbits or something ??? > is there a way of limiting the bandwith that goes through the network > to a certain computers ??? > 1. Try to shape traffic at uplink router It is very easy for cisco routers 2. You may try ipltd on your bsd router box (http://sply.piter.net) Also try ALTQ/CBQ (http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/person/kjc/software.html) be good, andy [teem freedom] siteOP áÄÍÉÎ ÉÚÍÅÎÉ×ÛÉÍÓÑ ÌÉÃÏÍ ÂÅÖÉÔ ËÏÎÓÏÌÉ Some users are alive only because it's illegal to kill them To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 29 23:50:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29917 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:50:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lab321.ru (anonymous1.omsk.net.ru [62.76.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29904 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:50:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kev@lab321.ru) Received: from www.lab321.ru (kev@www.lab321.ru [62.76.129.65]) by lab321.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA07934 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:49:23 +0600 (OS) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:49:23 +0600 (OS) From: Eugeny Kuzakov To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfilter 3.2.10 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! did anyone try ipfilter 3.2.10 with 2.2.x ? How is stable ? -- Best wishes, Eugeny Kuzakov Laboratory 321 ( Omsk, Russia ) kev@lab321.ru ICQ#: 5885106 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 30 00:00:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00390 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cyberaccess.com.pk ([206.98.188.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00348 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:59:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lubnazia@mail.cyberaccess.com.pk) From: lubnazia@mail.cyberaccess.com.pk Received: from localhost (lubnazia@localhost) by mail.cyberaccess.com.pk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA08595 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:59:59 +0500 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:59:59 +0500 (PKT) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I try to compile the kernel ( which I have named as FREEBIE) in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf directory with the /usr/sbin/config command then I get the following message: Removing old directory ../../ compile/FREEBIE: Done illegal line in devices file config: wd: unknown device config: line 41: no root device specified To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 30 00:37:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03295 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iway1.iw.net (iway1.iw.net [204.157.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03289 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dragonknight@dtgnet.com) Received: from death (rap-dialup-13.dtgnet.com [216.16.6.13] (may be forged)) by iway1.iw.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02792; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:37:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000b01be1c3c$2c5f2140$0101a8c0@death> From: "Dragon Knight" To: "Jason Nordwick" , "Christopher S. Weimann" , "Ed Suchocki" , Subject: Re: Frustrated with bsd Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:33:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But if the OS was made so people like you could use it then it might at well be Windows 95/98. You can say "FreeBSD Sucks Mah Nutsaq", rant, rave, bitch, and moan all you want. We run FreeBSD, we like it. Granted, its not for everybody. But it wasn't made to be for everybody. It was made for people with an IQ slightly above room temperature. I'd suggest you stick with M$'s BS. Samuel Greear >>Go to http://www.freebsd.org and scroll down the page till you get to >>the section called "Easy to install". >> > >These directions suck. I have often had similar questions as to how to >installed from a DOS disk... like what had to be d/l and where to put >it. > >>You now have everything you need to get FreeBSD installed. Follow the rest >>of the instructions on that page to create a boot disk. This boot disk >>will download everything over your modem ( or network connection if you >>are that lucky ). >> > >Doing a d/l from the boot disk is this: first it is very suseptible to >modem problems and other errors (like computer going down when 90% done), >second it really provides to really good feedback as to when it will be >done, third, you cannot keep the d/l files for a later installed (such as >I have time to d/l but not install). > >>I don't think I told