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Date:      Thu, 3 May 2001 11:03:35 -0700 (PDT)
From:      jessem@livecam.com
To:        jkh@osd.bsdi.com
Cc:        jessemonroy@email.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [jkh@osd.bsdi.com: ANNOUNCE: Status update on ftp.freebsd.org A KA ftp.freesoftware.com]
Message-ID:  <200105031804.LAA12112@dnull.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010503104606M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>

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On  3 May, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> I don't know what part of "this has nothing to do with hacking
> FreeBSD" you did not understand before, but this list has a very clear
> and well-stated CHARTER which is posted here:
> 
>      http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL
> 
> and this discussion clearly does not fall under it.  As the charter
> very explicitly states: "Ongoing irrelevant chatter or flaming only
> detracts from the value of the mailing list for everyone on it and
> will not be tolerated"
> 
> You may therefore consider this your second official warning that you
> are not in compliance with the charter for this mailing list and need
> only one more offense to warrant a ban.  Since this will also not be
> the first time you have managed to ban yourself from this list, I
> suspect that a ban on this occasion may prove permanent, so take heed!
> 
> I have already communicated the true situation with ftp.freebsd.org as
> best I could using the appropriate channels and whatever you or SVBUG
> may choose to say about it is purely your own business, simply keep it
> off this mailing list.  A perfectly good mailing list, chat@freebsd.org,
> also exists for just this kind of thing and you are more than
> encouraged to take this "discussion" there.
> 
> This is your second and final warning and if you choose to reply to
> this message, either make it personal to me only or cc it to
> freebsd-chat.  I've only cc'd hackers twice myself to show that the
> issue is being dealt with and to ensure that the warnings are properly
> on record.  Anything further you send to -hackers, unless on a more
> appropriate topic, will constitute a banning offense.  Thank you.
> 
At your request, I have moved this to hackers.

Per your insistance, that this has nothing to do with hackers, is
in my opinion Bull. 

The pettyness that is rising *is* solely on your part. I have no
agenda here other than that *that is good* for BSD and the businesses
and jobs around BSD.

I'm taking into account my previous actions, words and behaviour.
I have purposefully NOT acted or commented other than which
you have seen in my writings, as of late.

I might ask for forgiveness, but I will not. I might consider I
could have taken a different tack, but I did not. I did consider
that people are human, make mistakes and correct them, that has not
seemed to matter.

I urge you to stop the rhetoric NOW. I urge you to respond, as 
we would expect a BSDer to respond when dealing with issues
of a professional nature.

My opinions are my own. They always will be. Why you and others
fear my comments and responses, as you do, has always baffled me.

				No Farings and Best Regards,
				Jessem.


				



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