From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 3 11: 3:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from dnull.com (dnull.com [209.133.53.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECDE37B422 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jessem@jigsaw.svbug.com) Received: from jigsaw.svbug.com ([198.79.110.2]) by dnull.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12112; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105031804.LAA12112@dnull.com> Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:03:35 -0700 (PDT) From: jessem@livecam.com Reply-To: jessemonroy@email.com Subject: Re: [jkh@osd.bsdi.com: ANNOUNCE: Status update on ftp.freebsd.org A KA ftp.freesoftware.com] To: jkh@osd.bsdi.com Cc: jessemonroy@email.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010503104606M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 3 May, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I don't know what part of "this has nothing to do with hacking > FreeBSD" you did not understand before, but this list has a very clear > and well-stated CHARTER which is posted here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL > > and this discussion clearly does not fall under it. As the charter > very explicitly states: "Ongoing irrelevant chatter or flaming only > detracts from the value of the mailing list for everyone on it and > will not be tolerated" > > You may therefore consider this your second official warning that you > are not in compliance with the charter for this mailing list and need > only one more offense to warrant a ban. Since this will also not be > the first time you have managed to ban yourself from this list, I > suspect that a ban on this occasion may prove permanent, so take heed! > > I have already communicated the true situation with ftp.freebsd.org as > best I could using the appropriate channels and whatever you or SVBUG > may choose to say about it is purely your own business, simply keep it > off this mailing list. A perfectly good mailing list, chat@freebsd.org, > also exists for just this kind of thing and you are more than > encouraged to take this "discussion" there. > > This is your second and final warning and if you choose to reply to > this message, either make it personal to me only or cc it to > freebsd-chat. I've only cc'd hackers twice myself to show that the > issue is being dealt with and to ensure that the warnings are properly > on record. Anything further you send to -hackers, unless on a more > appropriate topic, will constitute a banning offense. Thank you. > At your request, I have moved this to hackers. Per your insistance, that this has nothing to do with hackers, is in my opinion Bull. The pettyness that is rising *is* solely on your part. I have no agenda here other than that *that is good* for BSD and the businesses and jobs around BSD. I'm taking into account my previous actions, words and behaviour. I have purposefully NOT acted or commented other than which you have seen in my writings, as of late. I might ask for forgiveness, but I will not. I might consider I could have taken a different tack, but I did not. I did consider that people are human, make mistakes and correct them, that has not seemed to matter. I urge you to stop the rhetoric NOW. I urge you to respond, as we would expect a BSDer to respond when dealing with issues of a professional nature. My opinions are my own. They always will be. Why you and others fear my comments and responses, as you do, has always baffled me. No Farings and Best Regards, Jessem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message