From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 20:56:10 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7524D37031E for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 20:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BDddj381Jz4f1Z for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 20:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Ask stupid questions and you'll get a stupid answers, was: Technological advantages over Linux Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:56:06 -0600 References: <20200214141600.GA82559@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> <20200215063818.GE1482@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org> <58202623-bbf7-eda0-5cb5-fb4749e91e20@watters.ws> <6318251A-973A-4DEC-9271-12333EB11F7B@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200725152412.GJ92589@admin.sibptus.ru> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20200725152412.GJ92589@admin.sibptus.ru> Message-Id: <6DF45E1F-5F76-432C-99F4-69E6198EFF73@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3649) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BDddj381Jz4f1Z X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.916]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.995]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.65)[-0.645]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 20:56:10 -0000 On 25 Jul 2020, at 09:24, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Michael Watters wrote: >>=20 >> On 7/24/2020 9:39 AM, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> Why do I have to choose between Linux and FreeBSD? Why can't I have >>> both? I also use NetBSD, OpenBSD, Android, occasionally Windows. Am = I >>> a traitor? Am I an infidel? >=20 >> While it's fun to test out and play with different OSes it makes life >> much simpler if you standardize on *one* platform. Most = organizations >> have standards and policies about what operating systems are allowed = on >> their servers. >=20 > This is very true. And when it comes to choice between Linux and > FreeBSD (as a company policy), despite my love for FreeBSD and long = time > (over 20 years) experience therewith, I find there is very little I = can > now rationally present as arguments to choose FreeBSD over Linux. The tipping point for me has been the explosion in Docker use. It is trivial to throw up a minimal Linux server and then load a ton of = docker containers on it, and that is a combination that is hard to beat. = I have opinions on tis, of course, but they are not relevant to this. I setup a machine for someone to act as a HTPC using linux and a = half-dozen docker containers. It took about an hour, and the system is = largely idiot-proof. I'm not sure it would have been possible to use the = same software at all under FreeBSD and it certainly would have taken = much much longer. That said, I will continue to use FreeBSD for the mail server and my = stuff because I am used to *BSD and I find it annoying when I have to = switch to Linux, so the real stuff is still FreeBSD and will be. But a = lot of stuff is already Linux and will continue to be. --=20 'It's still a lie. Like the lie about masks.' 'What lie about masks?' 'The way people say they hide faces.' 'They do hide faces,' said Nanny Ogg. 'Only the one on the outside.' --Maskerade