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Date:      Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:08:21 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@nwlink.com>
To:        Lowell Gilbert <lowell@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Tripwire vs. Mtree
Message-ID:  <Pine.SOL.3.96.1000915110608.12381A-100000@utah>
In-Reply-To: <44og1p5yy5.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net>

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On 15 Sep 2000, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

> Remember, there's a chicken-and-egg problem:  if your system is
> compromised, you can't trust its mtree executable to detect the fact.
> Even if you have a "safe" copy of the executable, you can't trust the
> system's standard libraries, because those may have been compromised too.
> 
> If you had a statically linked version of mtree on the floppy where you
> keep the checksums, mtree would be roughly as good as tripwire, although
> not as convenient, and certainly the tripwire option to build a standalone
> floppy would take a bit of work to emulate.

Having never directly used either ubt knowing what they do, I now see that
there are "implementation" issues that have to be considered.

Thank you for the input.  I would have neglected to consider the
trustworthiness of the system libraries.

Thank you,
Jason C. Wells



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